Yesterday was my last neurologist visit.  He said my MRI showed the
arachnoid cyst (a fluid sac).  Everyone has one so there is nothing to worry
about.  My migraines have faded, so has my sleeping.  I do still get tired
easily and when it's too hot I get all my symptoms 10 fold, but Doc said to
expect that for a good while yet.

  So, next step is to contact an atty.  I have seen the boy over at their
house twice in the last 3 weeks.  So they still have contact with him.
We've been ostracized badly in the neighborhood.  NONE of the children will
talk or play with my girls.  None of the other parents will even return a
hello wave.  Our one friend is Ms Yong across the street, but she doesn't
speak english.  ;o}

   I've lost one job over this.  It was a private hire for my secty svs.  BUT
I couldn't read the phone list and had to inform them after a couple of
days.  Let's see what atty has to say.

   Thank you for your help, suggestions and support.

   Jeanne/Soffya


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Jo Reggalt,

  http://www.magyarhaz.hu/konyvtetelek/ostortenet.htm

Enjoy!

Soffya/Jeanne

PS what does ostortenet mean?

I recommend www.brama.com

--- In sig@y..., "Patricia Hefner" <p.hefner@w...> wrote:
> My sister is about to go to Kiev! She's a dancer and is going with
a guy from there who works with ballet companies.  Does anyone know
of any sites or whatever with information about traveling and such in
Ukraine? Any help with this will be greatly appreciated! Thanks in
advance.
>
> Isabelle
>
>
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: atlantia-admin@...
[mailto:atlantia-admin@...]On Behalf Of E L Wimett
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 1:45 PM
To: 'atlantiaatlantiascaorg'; 'AtlantianHeraldsyahoogroupscom'
Subject: [MR] Sad News From the East Kingdom


News reached me this morning of the death just before midnight of Nick
Taylor, known to the heralds as Aelfwine Denedom and to the rest of the
Society as Aelfwine of the Dunedain, Earl Aelfwine or simply Nick.

A friend and mentor to many in lands far beyond the northerly reaches of
the East Kingdom where he lived, Aelfwine's chivalry, courtesy, humor and
constant willingness to put aside his own concerns to lend a hand to even
the most casual of strangers led many of us to consider him the model of
what a true knight should be.

His house opposite the barn at Pennsic was a landmark for oldtimers and
newbies alike and his absence from Pennsic this year left a hole that could
not be filled.

Though small in physical stature, Aelfwine soul was great and nowhere was
this shown more clearly than in his long and ultimately unsuccessful battle
against genetically-induced leukemia.

So rich are my memories of Aelfwine that it is hard to choose just one to
share, but. . .

More than twenty years ago when Aelfwine reigned over the East, I wrote a
song for him called "Winter King".  Its initial lines carry an image of him
standing on a frosted northern field that will ever be enshrined in my
heart:

"Silken strands of honey gold
Blowing in a wind that's cold,
Like a legend that was told
Long ago. . ."

Nick is now truly numbered amongst the lost legends of the East.  He will
be forever missed.

Alisoun

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I think at the SIG meeting at Pennsic (yes, I know. If my life ever calms
down I'll write up a report) we were discussing this dress, which is in
the Hungarian National Museum:
http://www.virtue.to/guest_authors/hungarian.html

  --
Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, mka Jennifer Heise       jenne@...
disclaimer: i speak for no-one and no-one speaks for me.
"We made a vow/We'd always be friends
How could we know/That promises end?" - Eric Clapton

Greetings good people of this list!  I am looking for pics of male
and female garb for the 1400s for Wallachia, Romania and Hungary. Any
help would be deeply appreciated!
Regards,
Lucia

Got this inquiry in the mail, and wondered if anyone had any insight:

>    I am a doctoral student at the University of Texas Arlington.  I am
>working on a paper concerning the Polish King Stephen Batory.  Is it
>possible that you might be aware of any original sources that include the
>history of this king?  Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

  --
Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, mka Jennifer Heise jenne@...
disclaimer: i speak for no-one and no-one speaks for me.
"We made a vow/We'd always be friends
How could we know/That promises end?" - Eric Clapton

Does anyone have the  Russian word for detachable collar, like the one Luidmilla
has on her site with the pearl embroidery? I just made one out of gold brocade
with crystal beadwork on it to show off the brocade pattern as opposed to
covering it up. I got a bunch of compliments for it at Coronation this past
weekend.

Isabelle


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In a message dated 9/16/2002 2:15:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
p.hefner@... writes:


> Does anyone have the  Russian word for detachable collar, like the one
> Luidmilla has on her site with the pearl embroidery?

I do :) Ozherel'ie: "oh-zhe-RIE-l'ie"...or maybe we should ask Predslava for
transliteration, I am not that good at it.  IN modern Russian this word means
"fancy necklace."

Liudmila


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In a message dated 9/16/2002 10:16:13 PM Central Daylight Time,
LiudmilaV@... writes:


> Ozherel'ie: "oh-zhe-RIE-l'ie"...or maybe we should ask Predslava for
> transliteration, I am not that good at it.

OK, I'll bite. Using the Library of Congress' transliteration, that's
"ozherel'e". Pronounced "oh-zhe-REH-lyeh", with "zh" as "s" in measure,
pleasure, leisure.

Predslava.


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Greetings!

All in all, there is also "Barma" word.
Though, I haven't seen the collar...

bye,
Alex

In a message dated 8/24/2 8:37:44 PM, seonaid13@... writes:
<< My b-day is coming up, so I asked for 2 books that I'm
wondering if anyone can review for me.
They are:
1- _Russian Folk Motifs_, by Peter Linenthal, a Dover
Pictoral Archive Series.
2- _Medieval Russian Ornament in Full Color: From
Illuminated Manuscripts_ from the Moscow Museum of Art
and Industry.>>

#1 sounds wonderful and isn't. I found the pictures crude and no use to me.
However it's only about $5., if you've already ordered it.
#2 is really nice, quite useful.
Happy Birthday.
Soraya

Dear Yana,
Did you go to the Costume Symposium in Michigan?
If so, how was the "period Russian" clothing class?

Soraya

--- In sig@y..., "Patricia Hefner" <p.hefner@w...> wrote:
> Does anyone have the  Russian word for detachable collar, like the
one Luidmilla has on her site with the pearl embroidery? I just made
one out of gold brocade with crystal beadwork on it to show off the
brocade pattern as opposed to covering it up. I got a bunch of
compliments for it at Coronation this past weekend.
>
> Isabelle
>

That's an ozherelya.

Eirene

I'm looking for sources (oh portraiture would be lovely!) on
Transylvanian, Hungarian, Romanian costuming for the mid to late
1400s.  Any leads would be deeply appreciated!
Regards,
Lucia

--- In sig@y..., Yana <yana@m...> wrote:
> Anyone planning on going to the Costume Symposium in Michigan in
two weeks
> (Sept 7)?

<snip>

>There is a "period Russian"
> clothing class, taught by someone named "Eirene" (not a Russian
name, but
> hey, we all make bad decisions  :-),

You're right - it's Greek. Nice of you to notice - everyone around
here thinks it's Russian, since I tend to make and wear a lot of
Russian. :-) But my personna is Byzantine.

>a few Byzantine classes,

Sadly, the Byz class was cancelled. *drat* But I bought the notes. ;-)

>and various
> beading and hat classes.  Sounds interesting, and I haven't been to
an SCA
> event in ages.

It was a good event. I learned a lot, and met a bunch of very cool
people!

Eirene

Actually, I wimped out and didn't go (6.5 hours of driving by myself
is depressing).  Mordak did, however.  Hey 'dak, tell us about the
Russian class!

--Yana

--- In sig@y..., Sarayya@a... wrote:
> Dear Yana,
> Did you go to the Costume Symposium in Michigan?
> If so, how was the "period Russian" clothing class?
>
> Soraya

http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/polish_costume_jan_matejki.htm
also, see
http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/dramatic_images.htm
Rick

Nice pictures, but remember Matejko was a 19th century painter.  I
noticed several incongruities in his masterpiece 'The Battle of
Grunwald'.
Landolf

--- In sig@y..., "Rick Orli" <orlirva@y...> wrote:
> http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/polish_costume_jan_matejki.htm
> also, see
> http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/dramatic_images.htm
> Rick

Check  out:

http://slavic.freeservers.com/

Soffya

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From: Madonna Lucia Ilaria Malatesta [mailto:lamiastrix@...]
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 5:17 PM
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sig] Transylvanian, Hungarian, Romanian Costume?


I'm looking for sources (oh portraiture would be lovely!) on
Transylvanian, Hungarian, Romanian costuming for the mid to late
1400s.  Any leads would be deeply appreciated!
Regards,
Lucia

OOOH! Center stage......The Russian class was womens
court costume, Moscovite period and mostly Boyar
class. Excellent handout with color pictures, clear
but brief explainations of clothing pieces, mostly
designed to inform and recruit interested parties. The
teacher is a recent (1-2 years) convert to the dark
side and is probably reading this posting along with
the rest of you. All in all, excellent job as a
teacher. Four stars out of four for performance. I
gotta run but I'll do a better analysis later.
'dak
--- yanajenn <yana@...> wrote:
> Actually, I wimped out and didn't go (6.5 hours of
> driving by myself
> is depressing).  Mordak did, however.  Hey 'dak,
> tell us about the
> Russian class!
>
> --Yana
>
> --- In sig@y..., Sarayya@a... wrote:
> > Dear Yana,
> > Did you go to the Costume Symposium in Michigan?
> > If so, how was the "period Russian" clothing
> class?
> >
> > Soraya
>
>


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These, however, seem fairly reliable. They are all copies of and
referenced to a specific contemporary work, and are mostly the
products of his careful research notes and sketches. in a few days
Ill put up the rest of teh 'footnotes' he supplies.  The
main 'problem' is that on the same plate you will have a 1635 guy
and a 1655 guy - quite different fashions, but he does state the
range so users with their thinking cap on should be ok.
-Rick
--- In sig@y..., "pan_landolf" <pan_landolf@h...> wrote:
> Nice pictures, but remember Matejko was a 19th century painter.  I
> noticed several incongruities in his masterpiece 'The Battle of
> Grunwald'.
> Landolf
>
> --- In sig@y..., "Rick Orli" <orlirva@y...> wrote:
> > http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/polish_costume_jan_matejki.htm
> > also, see
> > http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/dramatic_images.htm
> > Rick

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Madonna Lucia Ilaria Malatesta [mailto:lamiastrix@...]
>Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 5:17 PM
>To: sig@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [sig] Transylvanian, Hungarian, Romanian Costume?
>
>
>I'm looking for sources (oh portraiture would be lovely!) on
>Transylvanian, Hungarian, Romanian costuming for the mid to late
>1400s.  Any leads would be deeply appreciated!
>Regards,
>Lucia

Replied to privately.

Cu Drag,
Despina


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when she wants to ruin a man." --
Benvenuto Cellini.

Greetings!  In the files section there's a folder called Su's Stuff
and in it is a pic identified as a Hungarian coat. Could Su (or
anyone!) answer some questions for me on this item?  From what time
period is it?  And is it a strictly male or female piece of clothing
or was it "unisex"?  Thank you!
Regards,
Ilona Vadas (at least, that's the name of the current budding
incarnation)

The "Eat Like a King" special on the Food Network is going to be shown again
at Sat (Sept 21). at 4pm & Sun. (September 22) at 11am ET

just though some would like to know.

Darka

Please tell me about the gown in this pic.  What time period and
location?  Thank you.
Ilona

--- In sig@y..., Tim Nalley <mordakus@y...> wrote:
> OOOH! Center stage......The Russian class was womens
> court costume, Moscovite period and mostly Boyar
> class. Excellent handout with color pictures, clear
> but brief explainations of clothing pieces, mostly
> designed to inform and recruit interested parties.

Yah - I could have filled another couple of hours. :-) I have another
class on construction of the kokoshniki, and the layout/pattern for
the rubashka if anyone wants details.  Hopefully, I got a few folks
interested....

>The
> teacher is a recent (1-2 years) convert to the dark
> side and is probably reading this posting along with
> the rest of you.

Yup, I'm here, and although I don't post a lot (I'm just soaking it
all in, you know) I've been around for awhile. I'm mostly interested
in Russian as an excuse to make headdresses, something to hold beads,
and the relationship of Russian to (from) Byzantine clothing.
Besides, it was great maternity clothing! I wouldn't call it
the "dark side" - all those pearls and gold are pretty bright in the
sunshine! :-)If anyone wants to see the stuff we've been doing
lately, it's at (the obviously under construction)
www.caerthe.org/thewardrobe/russian.html There's obviously a bunch of
stuff missing and stuff I have to fix, but you can take a look at the
pics.

> All in all, excellent job as a
> teacher. Four stars out of four for performance. I
> gotta run but I'll do a better analysis later.

Thanks! I'm a little insecure about what I *don't* know, so please
feel free to fill in the "blanks". Sorry I didn't have time to talk
more to you Mordak about Russian stuff at the event. Perhaps KWCS
III? ;-)

Eirene

Relying on 19c. painters leads to serious mistakes in
preparing a period costume. They did not cooperate
with archeologists as medieval research just began in
that time. Let me recommend you looking for 14 and
15th century  manuscripts and illuminations.
Wojciech,
Poland

> Nice pictures, but remember Matejko was a 19th century painter.  I
> noticed several incongruities in his masterpiece 'The Battle of
> Grunwald'. Landolf

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The question is, where do you see these pictures? I have a problem: I don't
understand any of the Slavic languages, therefore I can't look for Polish sites
in Polish, or for that matter Czech sites in Czech (damn!) That complicates
things............

Isabelle


   Relying on 19c. painters leads to serious mistakes in
   preparing a period costume. They did not cooperate
   with archeologists as medieval research just began in
   that time. Let me recommend you looking for 14 and
   15th century  manuscripts and illuminations.
   Wojciech,
   Poland

   > Nice pictures, but remember Matejko was a 19th century painter.  I
   > noticed several incongruities in his masterpiece 'The Battle of
   > Grunwald'. Landolf

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You know the weirdest place online I actually saw some pictures if
Hungarian, etc. illumination was at a site  for a restoration company.
Interesting in how it talked about fixing some of the damages of time, bugs,
water, etc. I will look around for it again and post it if I find it again;
unfortunately I do not remember if I saved the address in favorites or not.
But I will look and post what I have.

Books that you might find some pictures of eastern european manuscripts is
heraldry books I seem to remember one at the local library here that had a
lot of polish heraldic images, so possibly you will find a few picture of
heraldic arms, family trees and the like that might have a few people on
them. also look for a book called Tournaments, which has lots of picture of
illuminations of tournaments, jousts, crowd scenes, etc. I didn't really pay
attention to what country the illuminations came from but I kknow some were
from germany so its a possibility.I only remember the germany reference
because of the illumination of Ulrich von Lichtenstein from the Manesse.

hope this is of some help
Kathws
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> The question is, where do you see these pictures? I have a problem: I
don't understand any of the Slavic languages, therefore I can't look for
Polish sites in Polish, or for that matter Czech sites in Czech (damn!) That
complicates things............
>
> Isabelle
>
>
>   Relying on 19c. painters leads to serious mistakes in
>   preparing a period costume. They did not cooperate
>   with archeologists as medieval research just began in
>   that time. Let me recommend you looking for 14 and
>   15th century  manuscripts and illuminations.
>   Wojciech,
>   Poland
>
>   > Nice pictures, but remember Matejko was a 19th century painter.  I
>   > noticed several incongruities in his masterpiece 'The Battle of
>   > Grunwald'. Landolf
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