Slavic Interest Group Mailing List (SIG-L) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Last update:  2 December 2012
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** What is sig@yahoogroups.com?
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European world.  We are aimed specifically towards members of the Society for
Creative Anachronism (SCA) with Slavic, Eastern European and Central European
personas, but we provide information and resources to anyone.

** Are SIG-L and the Slavic Interest Group the same organization?
No.  SIG-L is an offshoot of the larger and older Slavic Interest Group
(hereafter called "SIG").  SIG-L was established as an additional way for
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** What cultures does SIG-L cover?
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incorporate the initials of all the countries and groups we cover.

** You mentioned a newsletter...
SIG publishes "Slovo", our quarterly newsletter.  "Slovo" means "word" in many
Slavic languages, so we thought it would be a good name for the newsletter.  It
comes out in the middle of the months of January, April, July and October.  The
submission deadlines are the first of those same months.  Slovo is available
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you need a paper copy, write to the editor at goldschp@....  Paper copies
are also free, but donations are cheerfully accepted to cover copying and
mailing costs.

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** What can I talk about here on SIG-L?
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European history and culture or anything Slavic, Eastern European or Central
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Research

** Can you recommend some books for different eras and peoples?
There is an extensive bibliography (with notes) on the web at the main SIG page 
You can also write to the list and ask for recommendations or reviews of
specific books, but it is a lot faster if you look at the SIG bibliography
first.

** Where can I find help developing my persona?
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created.  We call them Knowledge Pages.  They are aimed towards a specific
country and include information on dress, food, naming practices, persona
development, history, language and other themes.  Simply find the Knowledge Page
you wish and read, read, read!

**What are "the Knowledge Pages?"
They are a series of country-based web pages that are organized using similar
subject categories to aid research. Here you can find information on a wide
variety of subjects such as food, dress, persona development, history and much
more.  You can find the Knowledge Pages under our "Links" on YahooGroups, or
visit the main SIG page.

** Where can I find someone near me?
Feel free to ask on SIG-L!  This is also where becoming a member of SIG comes in
handy.  SIG maintains a member list that lists name, location, interests and
contact information.  You can simply scan the list and contact whomever you
choose.  It is linked off the main SIG page under "members".

**  Are there recipes for my culture? Where would I find them?
**  Where can I get ideas for clothing from my culture?
**  What about music and art?

To all the above: First, check out the appropriate Knowledge Page for the
culture in question.  You might also want to check out the Florilegium, a major
collection of messages arranged by subject headings.  The Florilegium is at
http://www.florilegium.org/
If you can't find answers there, try writing to the List.

We hope this FAQ has been helpful.  If you have any further questions or
suggestions, please let us know.

Happy Researching!

Both of these images are 14th century paintings of late 10th/early 11th centtury
saints Boris and Gleb of the Kievan Rus.

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/%D0%A1%D0%B2%D1%8F\
%D1%82%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%91%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81_%D0%B8_%D0%93%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B\
1.jpg/220px-%D0%A1%D0%B2%D1%8F%D1%82%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%91%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81_\
%D0%B8_%D0%93%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Boris_Gleb_astride\
.jpg/220px-Boris_Gleb_astride.jpg[/img]

There is obviously "something" going on with the interior of their cloaks. (The
red cloak moreso than the black brocade(?) cloak, but on the left picture you
can see definite detail of what looks to me like squares and stitches.

Does anyone know of a quilted cloak? I've never heard of such a thing, but this
could be a 14th century thing being applied to the 11th century saints. And I
know nothing of the 14th century.

-Halbrust


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It looks like fur to me.  The red cloak pattern looks like vair to me.

Katherine

On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:11:21 -0500 (EST), Joseph Belcher
<iegrappling@...> wrote:
> Both of these images are 14th century paintings of late 10th/early 11th
> centtury saints Boris and Gleb of the Kievan Rus.
>

I hadn't thought of fur (duh!)
The image on horses does look like fur. But the black cloak on the standing
image looks like something other than fur still.
The single stitch at the top of each square is making me think too

-Halbrust

-----Original Message-----
From: wheezul <wheezul@...>
To: sig <sig@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:24 am
Subject: Re: [sig] Quilted cloaks?




It looks like fur to me. The red cloak pattern looks like vair to me.

Katherine

On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:11:21 -0500 (EST), Joseph Belcher
iegrappling@...> wrote:
> Both of these images are 14th century paintings of late 10th/early 11th
> centtury saints Boris and Gleb of the Kievan Rus.
>




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Yes sir! The socalled chuga a sleeveless long jacket like this:




From: Joseph Belcher
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 8:11 PM
To: sig@yahoogroups.com ; norsefolk_2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sig] Quilted cloaks?



Both of these images are 14th century paintings of late 10th/early 11th centtury
saints Boris and Gleb of the Kievan Rus.

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/%D0%A1%D0%B2%D1%8F\
%D1%82%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%91%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81_%D0%B8_%D0%93%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B\
1.jpg/220px-%D0%A1%D0%B2%D1%8F%D1%82%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%91%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81_\
%D0%B8_%D0%93%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Boris_Gleb_astride\
.jpg/220px-Boris_Gleb_astride.jpg[/img]

There is obviously "something" going on with the interior of their cloaks. (The
red cloak moreso than the black brocade(?) cloak, but on the left picture you
can see definite detail of what looks to me like squares and stitches.

Does anyone know of a quilted cloak? I've never heard of such a thing, but this
could be a 14th century thing being applied to the 11th century saints. And I
know nothing of the 14th century.

-Halbrust

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http://www.colmorino.com/qvlb/fnka5ggphv87g.gxs2y62








Frank Douglas


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Nothing to see here, folks.  Just don't open the link.

~ Su

Hi,

Just wanted to give everyone a shout out and say that I will DEFINITELY be at
Pennsic this year. 


Cheers,
Sfandra

 
******************
Boiarynia Sfandra Dmitrieva Chernigova
O.L., O.M., K.O.E., Haus VDK, East Kingdom
http://sfandra.webs.com
Never 'pearl' your butt.
******************

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Cool!  Want to host a gathering? :)



On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Sfandra <seonaid13@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Just wanted to give everyone a shout out and say that I will DEFINITELY be
> at Pennsic this year.
>
> Cheers,
> Sfandra
>
>
> ******************
> Boiarynia Sfandra Dmitrieva Chernigova
> O.L., O.M., K.O.E., Haus VDK, East Kingdom
> http://sfandra.webs.com
> Never 'pearl' your butt.
> ******************
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Oh, that is fantastic! I would love to hang out with you at Pennsic!

-Katrusha Skomorokh


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:27 AM, goldschp tds.net <goldschp@...> wrote:

> Cool!  Want to host a gathering? :)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Sfandra <seonaid13@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just wanted to give everyone a shout out and say that I will DEFINITELY
> be
> > at Pennsic this year.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sfandra
> >
> >
> > ******************
> > Boiarynia Sfandra Dmitrieva Chernigova
> > O.L., O.M., K.O.E., Haus VDK, East Kingdom
> > http://sfandra.webs.com
> > Never 'pearl' your butt.
> > ******************
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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--
My SCA work: http://katrusha.blogspot.com/

My artwork: http://arathreel.deviantart.com/

My baked goods:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.472661423252.251805.510143252&type=1&l\
=8fcf80877f

Laura Munn AKA Katrusha the Skomorokh
Artist
Writer
Baker


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So my husband came back from a local tech fair with a t-shirt I've threatened to
steal.  It says simply:

"got sig?"

I know sig is a computer thing, but I still thought it was cute enough to share.

Patches

Ooh! Can we steal and replicate?

Lada

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 11, 2013, at 3:45 PM, "Patches the gypsy" <raelee@...> wrote:

> So my husband came back from a local tech fair with a t-shirt I've threatened
to steal. It says simply:
>
> "got sig?"
>
> I know sig is a computer thing, but I still thought it was cute enough to
share.
>
> Patches
>
>


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I could be convinced.... ;-)  
 
--Sfandra 
 

________________________________
  From: goldschp tds.net <goldschp@...>
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [sig] Pennsic!

Cool!  Want to host a gathering? :)



On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Sfandra <seonaid13@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Just wanted to give everyone a shout out and say that I will DEFINITELY be
> at Pennsic this year.
>
> Cheers,
> Sfandra
>
>
> ******************
> Boiarynia Sfandra Dmitrieva Chernigova
> O.L., O.M., K.O.E., Haus VDK, East Kingdom
> http://sfandra.webs.com
> Never 'pearl' your butt.
> ******************
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 
>


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Yahoo! Groups Links



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Pleeêeezzzz....your camp is 100 yards away!
'dok


From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

-------- Original message --------
Subject: Re: [sig] Pennsic!
From: Sfandra <seonaid13@...>
To: "sig@yahoogroups.com" <sig@yahoogroups.com>
CC:

I could be convinced.... ;-)  
 
--Sfandra 
 

________________________________
From: goldschp tds.net goldschp@...>
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [sig] Pennsic!

Cool!  Want to host a gathering? :)

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Sfandra seonaid13@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Just wanted to give everyone a shout out and say that I will DEFINITELY be
> at Pennsic this year.
>
> Cheers,
> Sfandra
>
>
> ******************
> Boiarynia Sfandra Dmitrieva Chernigova
> O.L., O.M., K.O.E., Haus VDK, East Kingdom
> http://sfandra.webs.com
> Never 'pearl' your butt.
> ******************
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 
>

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Yahoo! Groups Links

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Yeah, I'll do it.  I just have to check what day would be best for my camp.  I'm
only there for War Week, but I should be able to get us an afternoon/evening in
our Great Hall.

--Sfandra


 
******************
Boiarynia Sfandra Dmitrieva Chernigova
O.L., O.M., K.O.E., Haus VDK, East Kingdom
http://sfandra.webs.com
Never 'pearl' your butt.
******************


________________________________
  From: Tim Nalley <mordakus@...>
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [sig] Pennsic!

Pleeêeezzzz....your camp is 100 yards away!
'dok


From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

-------- Original message --------
Subject: Re: [sig] Pennsic!
From: Sfandra <seonaid13@...>
To: "sig@yahoogroups.com" <sig@yahoogroups.com>
CC: 

I could be convinced.... ;-)  
 
--Sfandra 
 

________________________________
From: goldschp tds.net goldschp@...>
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [sig] Pennsic!

Cool!  Want to host a gathering? :)

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Sfandra seonaid13@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Just wanted to give everyone a shout out and say that I will DEFINITELY be
> at Pennsic this year.
>
> Cheers,
> Sfandra
>
>
> ******************
> Boiarynia Sfandra Dmitrieva Chernigova
> O.L., O.M., K.O.E., Haus VDK, East Kingdom
> http://sfandra.webs.com
> Never 'pearl' your butt.
> ******************
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 
>

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Hi everyone,


      Sorry to be a bother but I am in a very big bind I am getting married on
March 7 2013 and am getting wedded in a cossack outfit, but I am missing two big
items. Does anyone know where I can purchase a pair of cossack boots? and a
sword belt?   I had a person making the boots but he passed away last month and
I was just notified of this so I am in deep need of help.  I tried the Polish
Hussarr's website but no answer from them so any help greatly appreciated.




                                 George

I'm not very familiar with all the details of cossack outfit.

but i ran a quick search found this:
http://www.harr-shoes.com/index.php?Theaterschuhe4b94d07657d0b

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-Cossack-of-officer-sword-belt-from-a-genuine-lea\
ther-/121054290204?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2f65e11c

Hope it helps.

 
Lada

Oooooh...
SHINY!


scribal arts:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150165898386642.292073.728251641&l=c4\
602b7ffc&type=1





________________________________
  From: George Christy <kurgon4u@...>
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 3:56 PM
Subject: [sig] I need some Help


 
Hi everyone,

Sorry to be a bother but I am in a very big bind I am getting married on March 7
2013 and am getting wedded in a cossack outfit, but I am missing two big items.
Does anyone know where I can purchase a pair of cossack boots? and a sword belt?
I had a person making the boots but he passed away last month and I was just
notified of this so I am in deep need of help.  I tried the Polish Hussarr's
website but no answer from them so any help greatly appreciated.

George




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Speaking of gatherings, I've reserved the noon hour on Thursday for a
SIG meeting at Gulf Wars.

Hope to see you there!

Sofya

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Lisa M. Kies, MD aka Sofya la Rus, OL, CW, CSH, druzhinnitsa Kramolnikova
Mason City, IA aka Shire of Heraldshill, Calontir
                   ___
http://www.strangelove.net/~kieser
                      {o,o}
"Mir znachit Pax Romanov"
                        (__(|
"Et nunc et semper, etiam atque etiam, et discere et exquire et alia."
          -^-^-`
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George wrote:
>      Sorry to be a bother but I am in a very big bind I am getting married on
March 7 2013 and am getting wedded in a cossack outfit, but I am missing two big
items. Does anyone know where I can purchase a pair of cossack boots? and a
sword belt?   I had a person making the boots but he passed away last month and
I was just notified of this so I am in deep need of help.  I tried the Polish
Hussarr's website but no answer from them so any help greatly appreciated.

Congratulations!  I wish you and your bride the best!

If you are not looking for specific boots, but could use simple knee-high boots,
you could also check one of the online women's plus size providers (I like
WomenWithin [http://www.womanwithin.com/], but their associated vendor,
OneStopPlus [http://www.onestopplus.com/] has links to several companies).

If you are looking for specific boots, maybe the nice people at Rising Sun
Leather [http://www.etsy.com/shop/risingsunleather?ref=seller_info_count] can
help you. I've emailed the owner and will be purchasing from him when I have the
funds.  I've heard really good reviews of his work from several SCA friends that
have his boots.

Good luck with your hunt.  Let us know how you do and be sure to post pictures
in our files when you are finished ;)

~ Su of the Silver Horn, Kingdom of Caid
~ Su Ralston, Fullerton, CA

Zan and I will be there!
~'dok


From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

-------- Original message --------
Subject: [sig] Gulf Wars!
From: Lisa Kies <lkies319@...>
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
CC:

Speaking of gatherings, I've reserved the noon hour on Thursday for a
SIG meeting at Gulf Wars.

Hope to see you there!

Sofya

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Lisa M. Kies, MD aka Sofya la Rus, OL, CW, CSH, druzhinnitsa Kramolnikova
Mason City, IA aka Shire of Heraldshill, Calontir
___
http://www.strangelove.net/~kieser
{o,o}
"Mir znachit Pax Romanov"
(__(|
"Et nunc et semper, etiam atque etiam, et discere et exquire et alia."
-^-^-`
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I don't know anything about the Russian Cossacks, but if it's Ukrainian Cossack
(the ones wearing sharovary - puffy pants):

Look on line for Ukrainian Dance Boots.  (Choboteh - Чоботи)
You would want the flat heels (character heels are women's)

In Ukrainian Culture, the color of the boot denotes wealth:
Black/Brown being lower on the rung
Red - wealthy
Blue/White - usually worn by Kievan Prince/Princesses.


.http://www.ukrainiansite.com/Boots_Main.html

Dunno if they have any in stock or how long they will take to get from Ukraine,
but you can try above.  (Note:  I haven't ordered any of their boots, so I
can't testify as to quality).  Otherwise, check on line for Ukrainian Dance
boots.
If you get the dance boots, you can get someone to put a walking sole on for you
after your wedding, as they are not meant to be worn out and about.

In a pinch, you could get just a regular black boot that goes to mid calf.  In
a real pinch, a shoe that looks boot like with faux leather shoe top to make it
look like a boot.

As for Sword belt, if you can use a poyas (Ukrainian Sash).  It's a few meters
in length and wrapped around waist 2 - 3 times.  You can make one out of your
choice of color (gold, blue, red , depending on the color of your pants, you
would want a contrasting material).   Sash is 4 - 5 inches wide.  At end of
sash, add some fringe.  You can tie sash on one side with two ends draping -
one over the other, or you can tie in middle of stomach with shorter ends, each
draping off the middle.  Tuck your sword into the poyas.

For pictures on how it looks, go on line, look up Ukrainian costume - Poltava
Region.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=ukrainian+cossack+pants&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs\
=4tC&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=NREgUYb0L\
-nZigKy5YCwBw&ved=0CDUQsAQ&biw=1252&bih=555  (note not all these are Ukrainian
- the straight legged pants or ones with stripe down the side are generally
Russian).


Hope that helps
Juliana
(PS I teach Ukrainian Dance)

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Any chance of getting pictures from the gathering and a write-up for Slovo?

Thanks,
Paul

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Tim Nalley <mordakus@...> wrote:

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>
>
> Zan and I will be there!
> ~'dok
>
> From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> Subject: [sig] Gulf Wars!
> From: Lisa Kies lkies319@...>
> To: sig@yahoogroups.com
> CC:
>
> Speaking of gatherings, I've reserved the noon hour on Thursday for a
> SIG meeting at Gulf Wars.
>
> Hope to see you there!
>
> Sofya
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Lisa M. Kies, MD aka Sofya la Rus, OL, CW, CSH, druzhinnitsa Kramolnikova
> Mason City, IA aka Shire of Heraldshill, Calontir
> ___
> http://www.strangelove.net/~kieser
> {o,o}
> "Mir znachit Pax Romanov"
> (__(|
> "Et nunc et semper, etiam atque etiam, et discere et exquire et alia."
> -^-^-`
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
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So, since I was kinda volun-told to host... ;-p
 
a. It looks like yes, we can gather one evening during War Week at the VDK
encampment in B05.
 
b. My student (informal) Alysander has volunteered to CATER our gathering.  (and
OMG this guy can COOK, this is a great thing, trust me....)
 
I have to powwow with the house leaders to get an exact date, but it's looking
good.  I'll keep you all posted.
 
--Sfandra

******************
Boiarynia Sfandra Dmitrieva Chernigova
O.L., O.M., K.O.E., Haus VDK, East Kingdom
http://sfandra.webs.com
Never 'pearl' your butt.
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I certainly plan to be there and if there is any way I can help, please
just let me know!

-Katrusha


On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Sfandra <seonaid13@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> So, since I was kinda volun-told to host... ;-p
>
> a. It looks like yes, we can gather one evening during War Week at the VDK
> encampment in B05.
>
> b. My student (informal) Alysander has volunteered to CATER our
> gathering.  (and OMG this guy can COOK, this is a great thing, trust me....)
>
> I have to powwow with the house leaders to get an exact date, but it's
> looking good.  I'll keep you all posted.
>
> --Sfandra
>
> ******************
> Boiarynia Sfandra Dmitrieva Chernigova
> O.L., O.M., K.O.E., Haus VDK, East Kingdom
> http://sfandra.webs.com
> Never 'pearl' your butt.
> ******************
>
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>
>
>



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My artwork: http://arathreel.deviantart.com/

My baked goods:
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Laura Munn AKA Katrusha the Skomorokh
Artist
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I will be busy at war assisting our Royals since my wife is the Queen of
Trimaris, but I will try to make it. ;-p

Sasha


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Absolutely. The SIG News Network


From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

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Subject: Re: [sig] Gulf Wars!
From: "goldschp tds.net" <goldschp@...>
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
CC:

Any chance of getting pictures from the gathering and a write-up for Slovo?

Thanks,
Paul

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Tim Nalley <mordakus@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Zan and I will be there!
> ~'dok
>
> From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> Subject: [sig] Gulf Wars!
> From: Lisa Kies lkies319@...>
> To: sig@yahoogroups.com
> CC:
>
> Speaking of gatherings, I've reserved the noon hour on Thursday for a
> SIG meeting at Gulf Wars.
>
> Hope to see you there!
>
> Sofya
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Lisa M. Kies, MD aka Sofya la Rus, OL, CW, CSH, druzhinnitsa Kramolnikova
> Mason City, IA aka Shire of Heraldshill, Calontir
> ___
> http://www.strangelove.net/~kieser
> {o,o}
> "Mir znachit Pax Romanov"
> (__(|
> "Et nunc et semper, etiam atque etiam, et discere et exquire et alia."
> -^-^-`
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 
>


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Got a couple of my talented soon to be apprentices writing articles. 


From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

-------- Original message --------
Subject: Re: [sig] Gulf Wars!
From: "goldschp tds.net" <goldschp@...>
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
CC:

Any chance of getting pictures from the gathering and a write-up for Slovo?

Thanks,
Paul

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Tim Nalley <mordakus@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Zan and I will be there!
> ~'dok
>
> From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> Subject: [sig] Gulf Wars!
> From: Lisa Kies lkies319@...>
> To: sig@yahoogroups.com
> CC:
>
> Speaking of gatherings, I've reserved the noon hour on Thursday for a
> SIG meeting at Gulf Wars.
>
> Hope to see you there!
>
> Sofya
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Lisa M. Kies, MD aka Sofya la Rus, OL, CW, CSH, druzhinnitsa Kramolnikova
> Mason City, IA aka Shire of Heraldshill, Calontir
> ___
> http://www.strangelove.net/~kieser
> {o,o}
> "Mir znachit Pax Romanov"
> (__(|
> "Et nunc et semper, etiam atque etiam, et discere et exquire et alia."
> -^-^-`
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 
>


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What about www.armstreet.com


From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

-------- Original message --------
Subject: [sig] Re: I need some Help
From: Su Ralston <suralston@...>
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
CC:

George wrote:
> Sorry to be a bother but I am in a very big bind I am getting married on March
7 2013 and am getting wedded in a cossack outfit, but I am missing two big
items. Does anyone know where I can purchase a pair of cossack boots? and a
sword belt? I had a person making the boots but he passed away last month and I
was just notified of this so I am in deep need of help. I tried the Polish
Hussarr's website but no answer from them so any help greatly appreciated.

Congratulations! I wish you and your bride the best!

If you are not looking for specific boots, but could use simple knee-high boots,
you could also check one of the online women's plus size providers (I like
WomenWithin [http://www.womanwithin.com/], but their associated vendor,
OneStopPlus [http://www.onestopplus.com/] has links to several companies).

If you are looking for specific boots, maybe the nice people at Rising Sun
Leather [http://www.etsy.com/shop/risingsunleather?ref=seller_info_count] can
help you. I've emailed the owner and will be purchasing from him when I have the
funds. I've heard really good reviews of his work from several SCA friends that
have his boots.

Good luck with your hunt. Let us know how you do and be sure to post pictures in
our files when you are finished ;)

~ Su of the Silver Horn, Kingdom of Caid
~ Su Ralston, Fullerton, CA



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Greetings and a bow from Sofya!

I've shifted my SCA articles to a new web host with a simpler and more
sensible name:  http://sofyalarus.info
The Russian stuff is at http://sofyalarus.info/Russia

The old URLs will still work, but I won't be updating the articles at
the old site apart from adding "re-direct" messages once I get FTP
access again.  (Hence the change to a new web host.)

I've drastically changed the appearance of the pages, although the
content is essentially the same.  Please let me know if you find
broken links or images that I missed in the 3-day-long transition.

At your service,

Sofya

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Lisa M. Kies, MD aka Sofya la Rus, OL, CW, CSH, druzhinnitsa Kramolnikova
Mason City, IA aka Shire of Heraldshill, Calontir
                   ___
http://www.strangelove.net/~kieser
                      {o,o}
"Mir znachit Pax Romanov"
                        (__(|
"Et nunc et semper, etiam atque etiam, et discere et exquire et alia."
          -^-^-`
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Hello!
My name is Jadwiga, and I'm in the SCA from the kingdom of An Tir! I found
this group while looking for information about my persona! I'm fairly new
to the SCA, so I'm still getting my bearings. When I joined the SCA with my
hubby, and the matter of persona's came up, we decided on 16th C Polish,
because we had been to Poland a few years back, and fell in love with the
country. How little did we know that late-period Poland is really hard to
research....if you are a woman. It's been pretty easy to find what he
should wear...but not me. I swear sometimes, it seems like women barely
existed back then!

That being said, I would LOVE any help that folks might be able to provide
in helping me research my persona! Right now I'm working on clothing, but I
would like to learn as much about society and customs as I can, as I will
be trying out for Golden Swan (An Tir Persona award) in a few years, the
more I know, the better!

As far as my persona goes, I've put myself at 1569 Poland, in or near Kraków.
My husbands Persona is a hussar, if that is relevant.

So yeah, that's me, and my pitiful cry for help, as well as a hearty
welcome!

Do zobaczenia,
  Jadwiga


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