As far as the likeliness of any squirrels in the region diiscussed, I have no
idea.  However concerning the likelihood of anyone wishing to take a name, or
select a name derived from such a small seemingly insignifigant creature, I see
it as a very likely occurance especially in a pre-Christian era, or in an area
which may be described as a "hinterland".

Desireable traits in squirrels (in general).

Often quite swift.

Like several animals in related species, their front paws are used as hands  in
addition to their usage as a means of locomotion.

Squirrels are expert in storing things away for the winter months...  an
admirable trait to people who live in the frozen north and who experience harsh
winters.

Also there is the distinct possibility that the person(a) may have been born
scrawny, extra hairy, with a vestigal tail, and/ or developed serious buck-teeth
later on.

Also, (my apologies to all the "cool" folks :P )not everyone digs wolves,
warhorses, harts, dragons, etc...

Some of us are a little "squirelly" by nature.

There... that's my 2 cent's worth.

-Baxt

Take this as FUNNY!!!

I've been reading this discussion and been amused that the only things that
pops in my mind is the dogs from "Up" with "SQUIRREL!!"

Sorry, back to normal net reading.

Ianuk
<giggle>
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Land, John L SPC MIL USA TRADOC <
john.l.land@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> As far as the likeliness of any squirrels in the region diiscussed, I have
> no idea. However concerning the likelihood of anyone wishing to take a name,
> or select a name derived from such a small seemingly insignifigant creature,
> I see it as a very likely occurance especially in a pre-Christian era, or in
> an area which may be described as a "hinterland".
>
> Desireable traits in squirrels (in general).
>
> Often quite swift.
>
> Like several animals in related species, their front paws are used as hands
> in addition to their usage as a means of locomotion.
>
> Squirrels are expert in storing things away for the winter months... an
> admirable trait to people who live in the frozen north and who experience
> harsh winters.
>
> Also there is the distinct possibility that the person(a) may have been
> born scrawny, extra hairy, with a vestigal tail, and/ or developed serious
> buck-teeth later on.
>
> Also, (my apologies to all the "cool" folks :P )not everyone digs wolves,
> warhorses, harts, dragons, etc...
>
> Some of us are a little "squirelly" by nature.
>
> There... that's my 2 cent's worth.
>
> -Baxt
>
>


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LOL, I keep hearing Boris Badenoff saying "Moose and Squirrel"... but I suppose
that dates me.  ;-)

Susanna


--- In sig@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer Nelson Kemp <lady.ianuk@...> wrote:
>
> Take this as FUNNY!!!
>
> I've been reading this discussion and been amused that the only things that
> pops in my mind is the dogs from "Up" with "SQUIRREL!!"
>
> Sorry, back to normal net reading.
>
> Ianuk
> <giggle>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Land, John L SPC MIL USA TRADOC <
> john.l.land@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > As far as the likeliness of any squirrels in the region diiscussed, I have
> > no idea. However concerning the likelihood of anyone wishing to take a name,
> > or select a name derived from such a small seemingly insignifigant creature,
> > I see it as a very likely occurance especially in a pre-Christian era, or in
> > an area which may be described as a "hinterland".
> >
> > Desireable traits in squirrels (in general).
> >
> > Often quite swift.
> >
> > Like several animals in related species, their front paws are used as hands
> > in addition to their usage as a means of locomotion.
> >
> > Squirrels are expert in storing things away for the winter months... an
> > admirable trait to people who live in the frozen north and who experience
> > harsh winters.
> >
> > Also there is the distinct possibility that the person(a) may have been
> > born scrawny, extra hairy, with a vestigal tail, and/ or developed serious
> > buck-teeth later on.
> >
> > Also, (my apologies to all the "cool" folks :P )not everyone digs wolves,
> > warhorses, harts, dragons, etc...
> >
> > Some of us are a little "squirelly" by nature.
> >
> > There... that's my 2 cent's worth.
> >
> > -Baxt
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

All right, since I have the proper accent:
Why, Boris, why is it always Moose and Squirrel, Moose and Squirrel?

Liudmila







-----Original Message-----
From: Suzanne <sovagris@...>
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2009 5:56 pm
Subject: [sig] Re: squirrel name































LOL, I keep hearing Boris Badenoff saying "Moose and Squirrel"... but I suppose
that dates me.  ;-)



Susanna



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Greetings from Sofya to Patches!

>
>After building a kokoshnik with the embroidered and beaded everything,
>my question comes now to the veil - how is that worn?
>
>Do you pin it on the back at the top of the crown or do you put it on
>your head under the kokoshnik or do you use 2 veils - one above and the
>other under?

I believe you can probably do any or all of the above.

http://www.strangelove.net/~kieser/Russia/kokoshniki.html
http://www.strangelove.net/~kieser/Russia/examples2.html

At your service,

Sofya

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Mason City, IA aka Shire of Heraldshill, Calontir
http://www.strangelove.net/~kieser
"Si no necare, sana." "Mir znachit Pax Romanov"
"Nasytivshimsya knizhnoj sladosti."
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Due to some recent changes in my marital status I would like to alter my name to
reflect it.  My registered name is Natal'ia Diekova zhena Rabynovicha (Natal'ia
wife of Diek Rabynovich), and as you can guess my ex's name is Diek Rabynovich.

I really LOVE my name, but what I would like to do is alter my name to state
"widow of" instead of "wife of"  (no he didn't really die...).

A friend did a bit of research for me and came up with a couple different
options, but I would like to get some expert advice before I submit a change. 
The first option is Natal'ia Diekova zhena Rabynovicha vdova, and the second is
Natal'ia Diekova Rabynovicha vdova.  Can anyone tell me which, if either one, is
more correct?


Natal'ia


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The most common period practice is to follow the same grammatical
construction as you had in your name before.  So, if your name is
Natal'a Diekova zhena Rabynovicha, you would change your name to
Natal'a Diekova vdova Rabynovicha.  After all, you can't be both his
wife and his widow at the same time (so skip the first option you list below)!

-- Paul

At 03:41 PM 7/4/2009, you wrote:
>Due to some recent changes in my marital status I would like to
>alter my name to reflect it. My registered name is Natal'ia Diekova
>zhena Rabynovicha (Natal'ia wife of Diek Rabynovich), and as you can
>guess my ex's name is Diek Rabynovich.
>
>I really LOVE my name, but what I would like to do is alter my name
>to state "widow of" instead of "wife of" (no he didn't really die...).
>
>A friend did a bit of research for me and came up with a couple
>different options, but I would like to get some expert advice before
>I submit a change. The first option is Natal'ia Diekova zhena
>Rabynovicha vdova, and the second is Natal'ia Diekova Rabynovicha
>vdova. Can anyone tell me which, if either one, is more correct?
>
>Natal'ia

Thank you so much! Guess I will now officially be a widow!

Natal'ia









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I will be missing Pennsic this year (do to being 7 1/2 months pregnant) and was
wondering if any of the class teachers will be posting, or willing to email, the
information from their classes this year?

YIS~
Kashka

I will. Maybe the group could forward thier class manuals to you directly or
post them? I'll do my classes!

Best Regards,
'dok
"Dreams are only the realities of yesterday waiting to happen"

--- On Sun, 7/5/09, karen <kievanlady@...> wrote:


From: karen <kievanlady@...>
Subject: [sig] pennsic class information
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:42 PM








I will be missing Pennsic this year (do to being 7 1/2 months pregnant) and was
wondering if any of the class teachers will be posting, or willing to email, the
information from their classes this year?

YIS~
Kashka



















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Greetings SIG:

The Summer issue of Slovo is now available at the SIG website.


Regards,

Paul Wickenden (for SIG)

Hello List,
A friend is getting married and I've been asked to participate in a marriage
quilt. I wanted to make my patch featuring a good luck symbol, but somehow the
four leaf clovers and horse shoes weren't really speaking to me, so I thought
that being an SCA friend, I could use a good luck symbol appropriate to my
persona. This leads me to storks. Does anyone know if storks as good luck
symbols stretch back to medieval times? Any picture references? Any other ideas
to give me inspiration?

Cheers,
Nawojka

I forgot how to get to the SIG website.
THL Isabelle de Foix
Shire Brantestone
Kingdom of Meridies
 
Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive
out hate: only love can do that.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.




________________________________
From: Paul W Goldschmidt <goldschp@...>
To: goldschp@...
Cc: sig@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 7:15:42 PM
Subject: [sig] Summer Slovo Available





Greetings SIG:

The Summer issue of Slovo is now available at the SIG website.

Regards,

Paul Wickenden (for SIG)




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http://www.goldschp.net/SIG/slovo.html








-----Original Message-----
From: Patricia Hefner <hefnerpatriciahefnerpatricia@...>
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Jul 5, 2009 9:09 pm
Subject: Re: [sig] Summer Slovo Available































I forgot how to get to the SIG website.

THL?Isabelle de Foix

Shire Brantestone

Kingdom of?Meridies
?
















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In a land without natural barriers, the ancient Rus arose – blending east and
west, north and
south into a unique identity.  All through the centuries, enemies came and went.
Some were
defeated easily and vanished from history.  Some caused years of conflict,
generations of
victories and defeats along shifting borders until peace was restored and
alliances were sealed
just in time for a new enemy to appear.  The strongest enemies conquered and
ruled, but only for a
time.  In the end, they too were vanquished by the patient, unconquerable spirit
of the Russian
people and absorbed into the Russian collective.

So while it may often have felt like it was, indeed, the Rus vs. the World, in
the end, the Rus
always prevailed.  Come fight with us!


On August 27-30, the Shire of Heraldshill, Calontir, with the Shire of Silfren
Mere, Northshield,
will be holding Ages of War:  The Rus vs. The World, at the Floyd County
Fairgrounds in Charles
City, IA.

http://www.heraldshill.org/AgesOfWar/

If you have any questions, please contact the Event Steward, HL Sofya la Rus,
sofya@....

The only things off the top of my head, would be Žaltys the grass snake, who was
considered to be good luck.
Or, maybe, pisanki.

~Asfridhr

--- In sig@yahoogroups.com, "Rosie (aka Nawojka)" <Rosie_0801@...> wrote:
>
> Hello List,
> A friend is getting married and I've been asked to participate in a marriage
quilt. I wanted to make my patch featuring a good luck symbol, but somehow the
four leaf clovers and horse shoes weren't really speaking to me, so I thought
that being an SCA friend, I could use a good luck symbol appropriate to my
persona. This leads me to storks. Does anyone know if storks as good luck
symbols stretch back to medieval times? Any picture references? Any other ideas
to give me inspiration?
>
> Cheers,
> Nawojka
>

It's been about four years since I last updated the
author/title/subject indexes for Slovo, but I have now gone ahead and
done so.  The subject index is a bit of a mess and needs some
rethinking, but everything's up to date.

For those unfamiliar with our group's website, it is worth exploring at:

http://slavic.freeservers.com


Thanks,
Paul

Hi all. I found a book on Russian embroidery at a local library. There is a
stitch caled a nabor stitch which is actually called a weaving stitch. I'm
looking for a picture to illustrate what I think this is referring to.  There
was also a stitch called the three layer stitch which is a couched stitch, very
similar in appearance to the bayeux stitch.

Has anyone else come across similar references on Russian embroidery?  There was
no reference to the region of Russian or any town but I'm guessing the western
area.

Magdalena

Greetings to the list,
I remember seeing someone asking about Russian heraldy and the Znak (forgive me
if im wrong on the word, I am speaking of the tribal symbols that were used like
heraldry) and was wondering if they had found anything? Im not of Russian
ancestry and learning the language has been extremely slow and at some times Ive
lost interest with no one else to work with. I would like to design something
for myself and possibly bring this to the few Rus we have here in Trimaris to go
with their SCA heraldry. Any help would be greatly appreciated.




Yours in Humble Service,
Pomestnik Dmitrii Zarekoi Ivanov
"Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing!"


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After looking at possible dates it is looking like Labor Day Weekend may be the
best idea so far. Does anyone see any serious conflicts with that date?

We are thinking with the longer weekend it may be easier on folks who would be
traveling a ways?

Lady Marija Kotok

Labor Day Weekend of 2009 or 2010?

-- Paul


At 08:47 AM 7/13/2009, you wrote:


>After looking at possible dates it is looking like Labor Day Weekend
>may be the best idea so far. Does anyone see any serious conflicts
>with that date?
>
>We are thinking with the longer weekend it may be easier on folks
>who would be traveling a ways?
>
>Lady Marija Kotok
>
>


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This is the one page I know of.  There may be others.  I've been working on
one of my own.

http://www.goldschp.net/archive/rusheraldry.html

Good Luck!

Mir,
Tatjana
"It's never too late to be what you might have been."


Wolf and Tiger Woodworking
http://www.wolfandtiger.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "christopher chastain" <ckchastain@...>
To: "Slavic Interest group" <sig@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:36 PM
Subject: [sig] Russian znak



Greetings to the list,
I remember seeing someone asking about Russian heraldy and the Znak (forgive
me if im wrong on the word, I am speaking of the tribal symbols that were
used like heraldry) and was wondering if they had found anything? Im not of
Russian ancestry and learning the language has been extremely slow and at
some times Ive lost interest with no one else to work with. I would like to
design something for myself and possibly bring this to the few Rus we have
here in Trimaris to go with their SCA heraldry. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.




Yours in Humble Service,
Pomestnik Dmitrii Zarekoi Ivanov
"Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing!"

Tatjana,

  Thank you for the link, I will keep trying on this end as well.





Yours in Humble Service,
Pomestnik Dmitrii Zarekoi Ivanov
"Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing!"





To: sig@yahoogroups.com
From: tiger@...
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:55:32 -0500
Subject: Re: [sig] Russian znak







This is the one page I know of. There may be others. I've been working on
one of my own.

http://www.goldschp.net/archive/rusheraldry.html

Good Luck!

Mir,
Tatjana
"It's never too late to be what you might have been."

Wolf and Tiger Woodworking
http://www.wolfandtiger.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "christopher chastain" <ckchastain@...>
To: "Slavic Interest group" <sig@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:36 PM
Subject: [sig] Russian znak

Greetings to the list,
I remember seeing someone asking about Russian heraldy and the Znak (forgive
me if im wrong on the word, I am speaking of the tribal symbols that were
used like heraldry) and was wondering if they had found anything? Im not of
Russian ancestry and learning the language has been extremely slow and at
some times Ive lost interest with no one else to work with. I would like to
design something for myself and possibly bring this to the few Rus we have
here in Trimaris to go with their SCA heraldry. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Yours in Humble Service,
Pomestnik Dmitrii Zarekoi Ivanov
"Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing!"









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I meant Memorial Day Weekend..May 31st weekend in 2010

Perhaps I missed the post, but I'll ask any way....where is slavic U this year?

Dvoryanka Kashka Mokosheva     Life is a series of roads, where we end up along
the way is ours to decide.

--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Marilyn Kinyon <mamalynxx@...> wrote:

From: Marilyn Kinyon <mamalynxx@...>
Subject: [sig] My mistake re: Slavic U..lol
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 7:16 PM

















       I meant Memorial Day Weekend..May 31st weekend in 2010































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The one I am proposing would be in Martinsburg, WV. SCA Sylvan Glen,
Aethelmearc. This is about 2 hrs from Washington D.C. I am trying to see what
folks think of the May 31st Memorial Day Weekend ? That would allow for more
time for travel. We will be keeping the price fairly low and will be giving some
kind of admission break for teachers.

Marija

can someone get in touch with a modest hotel and see if we can score a group
rate then feed that info to us or provide a list of reasonably priced hotels
within 10 miles of the site?

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Marilyn Kinyon <mamalynxx@...>wrote:

>
>
> The one I am proposing would be in Martinsburg, WV. SCA Sylvan Glen,
> Aethelmearc. This is about 2 hrs from Washington D.C. I am trying to see
> what folks think of the May 31st Memorial Day Weekend ? That would allow for
> more time for travel. We will be keeping the price fairly low and will be
> giving some kind of admission break for teachers.
>
> Marija
>
>
>



--
Dáma Eleonora Pragensis
Order of the Opal
Webminister and Minister of Arts and Sciences
Shire of Cathanar
Kingdom of Atlantia
______________________
Si non caste tamen caute.


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The land of Rus arose along the crossroads of cultures – the Silk Road, the
“road from the
Varangians to the Greeks”, the northern European Hanseatic trade route, the
Amber Road, and the
Volga trade route.  And so while the Rus fought with many nations, they traded
with even more.

The Rus wore Flemish wools, Byzantine silks and Indian jewels.  They drank Greek
wine and ate
Baltic herring.  They fought using Frankish swords and steppe nomad tactics. 
Russian furs warmed
Elizabethan nobles and Russian beeswax illuminated German cathedrals.  Rus
artisans toiled in the
Mongol court and Italian architects re-built the Moscow palaces in stone.

What can you offer the Rus?  Come and show us!

August 27-30, Ages of War:  The Rus vs. The World, at the Floyd County
Fairgrounds in Charles
City, IA.  http://www.heraldshill.org/AgesOfWar/

Planned Competitions

Best Brew:
"Drinking is the joy of the Rus." Entries to be judged by a panel of experienced
vintners and
brewers. Bonus points for period Russian entries.

Trade Goods
Medieval Russia's wealth came from trade. Bring an example of an item that could
have been traded
in Rus whether native goods such as furs, wax, woodwork, embroidery and fine
metalwork, or
foreign imports such as Venetian glass, Flemish wool, Frankish swords, Chinese
silks, eastern
spices. Please document the connection of your item with Russia. Entries will be
evaluated using
Calontir A&S criteria http://www.artsci.calontir-rush.org/criteria.php which is
similar to the
criteria to be found on the NorthStar Arts and Sciences Homepage.
http://www.havenonline.com/moas/

Russian Food:
Bring your best period, or plausibly period, Russian recipe. Entries will be
judged on taste,
authenticity and documentation, and then shared with the entrants and judges of
the above
competitions during the judging on Saturday afternoon.   (Hint: many period
German, Polish, etc.
recipes are similar to Russian dishes.)

Non-Russian Persona Tie-in:
Fill out a card with a plausible explanation of how your NON-Russian persona
could have
interacted with Russia. All entrants will be entered into a raffle for a modest
prize and the
best example/s may receive special recognition.

Best Garb:
Those who are observed wearing the best outfits at the event will be invited to
play a special
role at feast and given a token of appreciation. There will be a bias toward
Slavic garb, but
other fine (not necessarily fancy) garb may also be recognized.

Classes:
We have a nice air-conditioned centrally located class building with electrical
outlets for
laptop-based presentations, and plenty of outdoor space, too.  All we need are
lots of classes!

We’re, of course, looking for classes with Russian themes, but also classes
about medieval
Russia’s neighbors, trading partners, allies and enemies; and classes on
techniques that produced
products that could have been traded with or used in the land of the Rus; and
activities that
could have occurred in period Russia.  In other words, we’ll take just about
any classes you’re
willing to teach!

If you would like to teach, contact Lady Alaina Frantzin von Wurtenberg –
tasmanian_hamster@...

If you have any other questions, please contact the Event Steward, HL Sofya la
Rus,
sofya@....

Heilsa!

Please forgive my ignorance, if this information exists elsewhere, please point
me towards it.  The husband and I are looking for names for ourselves, from a
late 9th and early 10th century, preferably around Novgorod and the surrounding
Slav tribes.  I don't think we will ever lose the names we are using now, we've
been called them for too long, but we both feel we've finally decided on
time/region and would like to finalize it with official, documentable, names.  
I have been perusing Paul Wickendan's very expansive dictionary of names, but
wondering if there might be a better/simpler way than clicking through pages.  I
really don't know even where to begin.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
Brenna Haldana & Thorrinn Eikanskaldisson  (a bit too "Viking", eh? :p)

If you haven't tried it already, you might want to check out this page:

http://www.goldschp.net/archive/archive.html


In Service,
Paul Wickenden of Thanet

At 12:11 AM 7/16/2009, you wrote:
>Heilsa!
>
>Please forgive my ignorance, if this information exists elsewhere,
>please point me towards it. The husband and I are looking for names
>for ourselves, from a late 9th and early 10th century, preferably
>around Novgorod and the surrounding Slav tribes. I don't think we
>will ever lose the names we are using now, we've been called them
>for too long, but we both feel we've finally decided on time/region
>and would like to finalize it with official, documentable, names. I
>have been perusing Paul Wickendan's very expansive dictionary of
>names, but wondering if there might be a better/simpler way than
>clicking through pages. I really don't know even where to begin.
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance!
>Brenna Haldana & Thorrinn Eikanskaldisson (a bit too "Viking", eh? :p)