Forwarded from the Norsefolk list, since this is interesting to us
Baltic lovers. =)
~Asfridhr

--- In Norsefolk_2@yahoogroups.com, "Lodin Myklebust"
<Lodinmyklebust@...> wrote:

Archaeologists find traces of legendary Viking centre:
http://rawstory.com/news/2006/Archaeologists_find_traces_of_legen_09102006.html

Russia- Russian and German archaeologists believe they may have found
traces
of human settlement in the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad that could
lead to
the legendary Viking trading centre of Wiskiauten. The find lies three
kilometres south of the coastal resort of Selenogradsk in a field near
the
Curonian Spit, a narrow strip of sand dune off the coast.

--- End forwarded message ---

I added a photo of the Palmer lodge (potential Slavic U site) to the photo
section.
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Greetings everyone,

I am looking for some advice/suggestions about how to appropriately
incorporate my coronet with a set of grab. I am making a shubka for an
upcoming event and am wondering if it would be all right to just
replace the kokoshnik part of the headdress with the coronet, leaving
the veils/pearls/etc that would normally be worn in place.

I have placed a photo of the coronet in the files section of the group
(file name is Xristina). Any suggestions on how to wear to use the
coronet with the headdress would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Xristina

I need to make myself and my Tatar wife some boots for SCA garb.
It has been difficult finding the proper footwear for Tatars of the earlier
centuries of Kievan and Tatar russia. I am not so good at transcribing a pattern
from an ancient painting so I was hoping to find someone who already has. Has
anyone done this?
Also I have a few photos my wife took in the Tobolsk Museum of really old slavic
garb, even some boots made from woven plant material if anyone is interested.
I can trade pictures with anyone interested. I would like to see pics of boots
others have made.

Tamr


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Poklon ot Sofya

------- Original Message -------
>I am looking for some advice/suggestions about how to appropriately
>incorporate my coronet with a set of grab. I am making a shubka for an
>upcoming event and am wondering if it would be all right to just
>replace the kokoshnik part of the headdress with the coronet, leaving
>the veils/pearls/etc that would normally be worn in place.
-------------------------------------

That sounds a lot like these 15th-17th century images:

http://www.strangelove.net/~kieser/Russia/PartizanWoman_files/image023.jpg

http://www.strangelove.net/~kieser/Russia/PartizanWoman_files/image011.jpg

http://www.strangelove.net/~kieser/Russia/PeriodImages/soloveckoevos26.jpg

K tvoim uslugam,

Sofya

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Lady Sofya la Rus
Shire of Heraldshill, Calontir
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Xristina,

I think that would be lovely.  I currently use my povoinik with a veil and
temple rings with my coronet and it works fine, though it might depend on
the coronet.  Have you done a fit check to see if it all fits?

Posadnitsa Ianuk

On 9/12/06, Xristina Viaceslavova <dyscordant_rose@...> wrote:
>
>   Greetings everyone,
>
> I am looking for some advice/suggestions about how to appropriately
> incorporate my coronet with a set of grab. I am making a shubka for an
> upcoming event and am wondering if it would be all right to just
> replace the kokoshnik part of the headdress with the coronet, leaving
> the veils/pearls/etc that would normally be worn in place.
>
> I have placed a photo of the coronet in the files section of the group
> (file name is Xristina). Any suggestions on how to wear to use the
> coronet with the headdress would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
> Xristina
>
>
>


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I am sending u a Medieval recipe to make karavai. If u think u can publish
it in Slovo, it will be great and I'll be thankful. Ciao

Aldo C. marturano
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To: <goldschp@...>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:28 PM
Subject: [sig] Call for Articles


> Greetings Slavic Interest Group!
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Greetings!

I am awfully sorry but...

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Root <jjeremyroot@...>
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:28:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [sig] Tatar / Nomadic Eurasian footwear

>
> I need to make myself and my Tatar wife some boots for SCA garb.
> It has been difficult finding the proper footwear for Tatars of the earlier
centuries of Kievan and
What do yiou mean by "Tatar of Kievan Russia"? The modern [Volga] Tatar of
Russia are a very complicated mixture of the Cuman, Bulgar & other Turcic nomads
conquering the Volga region, with the Finnish population that dwelt there
before. The today's Krimea Tatar are a yet more complicated mixture,
traditionally treated as relatives to Khazar. The Tatar of the Kievan realm time
are but a South Siberian tribe, that is to be conquered by Chenghis Khan in
further years.

Tatar russia. I am not so good at transcribing a pattern from an ancient
painting so I was hoping to find

If you mean the Mongol invasion and the Mongol rule (vassalage), then one can't
definitely say if any Tatar were the rulers (alongside with the mongol).
BTW, what painting do yiou mean, what country? Rather good examples of the
Mongol/their allies' garb can be seen in Japanese, Persian and Chinese pictures
and miniatures in illuminated chronicles.

someone who already has. Has anyone done this?
> Also I have a few photos my wife took in the Tobolsk Museum of really old
slavic garb, even some boots
??????????????????
Tobolsk, Tiumen region, a port on Irtysh river, a former Siberian capital city,
was founded in 1587. It occupies its present location since 1610. The only slavs
to leave some garb were the late-period Novgorod merchants (of which I strongly
doubt) and the Russians that conquered the region defeating local tribes.

made from woven plant material if anyone is interested.
Do you mean lime (linden) bark-woven footwear, lapti? Then pics are appreciated
at least by me. :-) I lack period info of Lapti patterns, which now are strictly
regional, differing much from each other.

> I can trade pictures with anyone interested. I would like to see pics of boots
others have made.
>

Bye, Alex

Da! They are Lapti, but they are full sized like valyenki. I will send you the
photos when I get back home tonight.

Where do you live Alexy?
We live in Boston, MA USA.

Ooh, Ooh, we're interested.  I could make bigos (without juniper :-) )
and teach a class in East European archery.

Ron

--- In sig@yahoogroups.com, "Pan Zygmunt Nadratowski" <panzygmunt@...>
wrote:
>
> I added a photo of the Palmer lodge (potential Slavic U site) to the
photo
> section.
> --
> Czesc Pan Zygmunt Nadratowski
> Middle Kingdom, Pentamere, Shire of Talonval
> Servant of His Grace Sir Dag Thorgrimsson and Master Mordok Rostovskogo
> SCA Polish Culture Resource: http://www.plcommonwealth.org
> We have enough youth - how about a fountain of smart?
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

While Slavic U is still in the planning stage I will stick my neck out
and volunteer to help the brave person who finally puts in a bid in
whatever way I can.

Magdalena

Greetings!

> Da! They are Lapti, but they are full sized like valyenki. I will send you the
photos when I get back home tonight.
I got them two, thanxxxx.
>
> Where do you live Alexy?
> We live in Boston, MA USA.

Moscow, Russia. :-)

Bye,
Alex

Privet Alexey!

   Do you have pictures of nomads clothing? Boots and etc?
   Are you a member of the SCA in Russia? I have friends in Mosscow that might be
interested if there is a group there, also in Riga, Latvia.

   Tamr

Alexey Kiyaikin aka Posadnik <Posadnik@...> wrote:
   Greetings!

> Da! They are Lapti, but they are full sized like valyenki. I will send you the
photos when I get back home tonight.
I got them two, thanxxxx.
>
> Where do you live Alexy?
> We live in Boston, MA USA.

Moscow, Russia. :-)

Bye,
Alex



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Greetings!

>   Do you have pictures of nomads clothing? Boots and etc?
Address the pics section of sig or Red Kaganate page at Yahoogroups. I just
forgot where I posted the scanned special issue "Rus and the Steppe" of Rodina
magazine back in 2002, with Fyodorov's and Gorelik's re-constructions of Russian
and nomadic garb. There's a lot there. You can find the necessary link somewhere
at SIG/Red Kaganate web pages, correspondingly:

www.slavic.freeservers.com
http://www.redkaganate.org

if you speak Russian, you can address the www.tgorod.ru, the key Russian
reconstructors portal (I first got the link to a SCA site just there).

>   Are you a member of the SCA in Russia? I have friends in Mosscow that might
be interested if there is a group there, also in Riga, Latvia.

I know about some members - NOT forming a group within Drachenwald structure -
in Estonia. The group in Vladimir-Souzdal ceased being an SCA group - serious
problems with fighting equipment meeeting SCA standards (in plain words: NOBODY
trades rattan in this here country, just rattan furniture assembled somewhere in
Vietnam!). I planned to become a SCA member, had some correspondence with Barcsi
Janos, who was Drachenwald's chatellain then, now I am not sure I can manage SCA
activities in full.


Bye,
Alex.


>
> Alexey Kiyaikin aka Posadnik <Posadnik@...> wrote:
>   Greetings!
>
> > Da! They are Lapti, but they are full sized like valyenki. I will send you
the photos when I get back home tonight.
> I got them two, thanxxxx.
> >
> > Where do you live Alexy?
> > We live in Boston, MA USA.
>
> Moscow, Russia. :-)
>
> Bye,
> Alex
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
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> BF
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have tried to correspond with Norm at redkaganate. It is sad but it seems like
the yahoo group for them has died.

Thank you for the link ideas. I speak very little russian but my wife speaks
russian.

Later

Alexey Kiyaikin aka Posadnik <Posadnik@...> wrote:

Greetings!

>   Do you have pictures of nomads clothing? Boots and etc?
Address the pics section of sig or Red Kaganate page at Yahoogroups. I just
forgot where I posted the scanned special issue "Rus and the Steppe" of Rodina
magazine back in 2002, with Fyodorov's and Gorelik's re-constructions of Russian
and nomadic garb. There's a lot there. You can find the necessary link somewhere
at SIG/Red Kaganate web pages, correspondingly:

www.slavic.freeservers.com
http://www.redkaganate.org

if you speak Russian, you can address the www.tgorod.ru, the key Russian
reconstructors portal (I first got the link to a SCA site just there).

>   Are you a member of the SCA in Russia? I have friends in Mosscow that might
be interested if there is a group there, also in Riga, Latvia.

I know about some members - NOT forming a group within Drachenwald structure -
in Estonia. The group in Vladimir-Souzdal ceased being an SCA group - serious
problems with fighting equipment meeeting SCA standards (in plain words: NOBODY
trades rattan in this here country, just rattan furniture assembled somewhere in
Vietnam!). I planned to become a SCA member, had some correspondence with Barcsi
Janos, who was Drachenwald's chatellain then, now I am not sure I can manage SCA
activities in full.


Bye,
Alex.


>
> Alexey Kiyaikin aka Posadnik
  wrote:
>   Greetings!
>
> > Da! They are Lapti, but they are full sized like valyenki. I will send you
the photos when I get back home tonight.
> I got them two, thanxxxx.
> >
> > Where do you live Alexy?
> > We live in Boston, MA USA.
>
> Moscow, Russia. :-)
>
> Bye,
> Alex
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
> BF
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Too bad about the rattan problem, but wouldn't it still be possible for  that
group to be more of an Arts & Sciences group? Or is there a requirement  to
have fighters?

I think it would be so cool to see Drachenwald expand into more countries
... especially those of interest to this list. :-)

Regards,
Lady Patricia of Trakai
Atlantia


In a message dated 9/16/2006 5:42:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Posadnik@... writes:

>   Are you a member of the SCA in Russia? I have friends  in Mosscow that
might be interested if there is a group there, also in Riga,  Latvia.

I know about some members - NOT forming a group within  Drachenwald structure
- in Estonia. The group in Vladimir-Souzdal ceased being  an SCA group -
serious problems with fighting equipment meeeting SCA standards  (in plain
words:
NOBODY trades rattan in this here country, just rattan  furniture assembled
somewhere in Vietnam!). I planned to become a SCA member,  had some
correspondence with Barcsi Janos, who was Drachenwald's chatellain  then, now I
am not
sure I can manage SCA activities in full.






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At 09:31 AM 9/16/2006, you wrote:
>I think it would be so cool to see Drachenwald expand into more countries
>... especially those of interest to this list. :-)

The trick for people in the FSU and Eastern Europe is that travel is
very expensive and incomes are not quite up to western European
levels.  Consider the challenges for someone to travel from St
Petersburg to Sweden for an event.  There's the cost of a boat trip
(150 euros or so/person if you're sharing a cabin) and the event
(20-30 euros) and any number of other things.  That's some serious cash.

That said, there is a group in Talinn Estonia that does fairly well,
but Estonia is a relatively well-off country and benefits from cheap
travel to Finland (mostly because of the large number of Finns coming
over to buy cheap alcohol).

-- Paul

Greetings!

>
>
> Too bad about the rattan problem, but wouldn't it still be possible for  that
> group to be more of an Arts & Sciences group? Or is there a requirement  to
> have fighters?
Actually, in Russian re-construction fighting ideas prevail. And that was a
group of young guys that met the Russian fighting requirements well
(traditionally we do it live steel, at least with fiberglass) but could not have
it in SCA way. There is something done in the way of SCA A&S, but it is not much
popular compared to knife- and sword- making and all that fighting shows. Say,
cooking SCA-way is very underdeveloped (very few period sources in written, and
very few males keeping to the soup pot instead of sword and shield/crossbow).

>
> I think it would be so cool to see Drachenwald expand into more countries
> .... especially those of interest to this list. :-)
Russians pay less as things here cost less. But when you go beyond Russia, you
have to pay, and pay much. Even when the event is in Sweden or Poland, not UK or
France. Not to say few have foreign passports yet.


Bye,
Alex.

No - just very low traffic.

Sasha

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Root" <jjeremyroot@...>
To: <sig@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [sig] Lapti


> have tried to correspond with Norm at redkaganate. It is sad but it seems
> like the yahoo group for them has died.
>
> Thank you for the link ideas. I speak very little russian but my wife
> speaks russian.
>

patoodle2001 wrote:
   Rattan and Drachenwald (was Re: [sig]_Lapti?) Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:31 pm (PST)

   "Too bad about the rattan problem, but wouldn't it still be possible for that
group to be more of an Arts & Sciences group? Or is there a requirement to
have fighters?

I think it would be so cool to see Drachenwald expand into more countries
... especially those of interest to this list. :-)

Regards,
Lady Patricia of Trakai
Atlantia"


   Hi there,

   Of course, Drachenwald IS expanding into those areas.  One of my last actions
as seneschal here (I stepped down last Friday to move to Atlantia next week) was
the formation of the Incipient Shire of Corvinia in Hunedoara, Romania --
composed 100% of Romanians.  They even have a YahooGroup
(SCA-Romania-subscribe@yahoogroups.com).  Our earlier attempts in Poland and
Serbia failed but we are still trying.

   We have been successful at shipping rattan to the Romania group (we sent
finished swords), and we are working via the internet to get their armor up to
speed.  So rattan is not a problem in Eastern Europe.

   There is also a group of people interested in travelling to those areas to
teach people about the SCA, where a group can be found and organized as an SCA
branch, and the chatelain has funds to purchase Known World Handbooks for remote
new branches to help them get started.

   The biggest problem, to be blunt, is poverty.  The Shire of Ad Flumen Caerulum
(Austria) paid for three memberships and I paid for the other two to get the
shire formed, but they will need to work something out for next year.

   If any of you would like to sponsor a member, contact the chatelain of
Drachenwald, Lord Arnulf at chatelain@... to let him know (he's
on vacation until mid-October, so don't expect a quick reply) or join the
SCA-Romania list and let them know.  We have enough interest to form another
shire in Alba Iulia (also 100% local), but not enough funds.  You can help them
get started.

   Barcsi Janos




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--- In sig@yahoogroups.com, Alexey Kiyaikin aka Posadnik
<Posadnik@...> wrote:
> Russians pay less as things here cost less. But when you go beyond
Russia, you have to pay, and pay much. Even when the event is in
Sweden or Poland, not UK or France. Not to say few have foreign
passports yet.
>
>
> Bye,
> Alex.

Hi there,

This problem is not exclusive to Russia, but is made worse by Russia's
immense size.  Israel and Romania both have similar problems, and so
did South Africa until recently.  The solution for them was a strong
internal activity program so people don't get bored.

Janos

--- In sig@yahoogroups.com, Paul W Goldschmidt <goldschp@...> wrote:

> That said, there is a group in Talinn Estonia that does fairly well,
> but Estonia is a relatively well-off country and benefits from cheap
> travel to Finland (mostly because of the large number of Finns
coming
> over to buy cheap alcohol).
>
> -- Paul

Hi there,

There is not an SCA group in Finland, and the membership of the last
Estonian SCA member has expired so we have no members there any more.
There may be a member or two of the Finnish affiliate organization --
I don't have their roster -- but not enough to form a branch.

That said, there are a good number of medievalists there -- just not
in the SCA.

Janos

> There is not an SCA group in Finland, and the membership of the last
> Estonian SCA member has expired so we have no members there any more.
> There may be a member or two of the Finnish affiliate organization --
> I don't have their roster -- but not enough to form a branch.

Uh, erm, huh?

There's a whole Barony in Finland! Aarnimetsä, it's called, and it has
seven cantons. I believe there have been both Drachenwald 12th nights
and Crown Tourneys held there...

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-- Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, Knowledge Pika jenne@...
"History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it screams
'Why don't you ever listen to me?' and lets fly with a club."

Greetings from your friendly neighborhood moderator!

Well, it's been a while since I asked for help with moderating the
list (Liudmila graciously stepped in when I was away at Pennsic), but
no one else has stepped forward to put their hat in the ring.

Instead of what I have been doing, which is editing messages for
length (you know, those ones that come through with "clip your posts!"
appended to them) and sometimes for content, which takes a lot of time
and effort, I have the following two options that I'd like people to
think over and comment on:

Option 1. As soon as a new member sends a post and proves that they
are a real person and not a troll, I take them off moderated status
and they can post without having me watch over their shoulder. This
means that I never again chide or edit someone's post because it
contains too much quoting.

Option 2. I continue moderating new members, but instead of editing
their posts, I simply delete it if it isn't clipped properly. Of
course, this probably would generate a lot of followup complaints that
I would have to deal with.

Other than that, I don't know what to do. I've always felt weird
telling people to clip their posts when plenty of older, non-moderated
members ignore that particular requirement, plus, it gets really,
really tedious. I know that there are plenty of people here who
appreciate not having to wade through a huge string of unnecessary
quoting, but it is too much for one person to keep up with.

Any ideas?

--Yana

> I know that there are plenty of
> people here who
> appreciate not having to wade through a huge string
> of unnecessary
> quoting, but it is too much for one person to keep
> up with.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --Yana


I am on 15 (at last count) email lists.   And the ones
that are the most difficult are the moderated ones.  I
say, once a new member proves they're not a program,
let it all go.

Sure, some people don't clip.  Some do.  Just like
some people know to cover their mouth when they
sneeze, and some don't.   You can't control manners,
I'm afraid.  Clipping is Good Manners, but not
everyone has good manners, and not everyone will clip.
  And sometimes, someone will have a comment they want
to make quickly, so they'll just type and send,
without clipping, because they're in a hurry, or the
conversation is hot.

Frankly, I think clipping is the least thing a
moderator should worry about.

My 2 pfennig.
--Sfandra

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I am afraid I must agree here. Every now and then it
doesn't hurt to remind people to clip, but honestly
some do and some just don't.
I say you have a million more things to worry about
than us!
stasi

>
> I am on 15 (at last count) email lists.   And the
> ones
> that are the most difficult are the moderated ones.
> I
> say, once a new member proves they're not a program,
> let it all go.
>
> Sure, some people don't clip.  Some do.  Just like
> some people know to cover their mouth when they
> sneeze, and some don't.   You can't control manners,
> I'm afraid.  Clipping is Good Manners, but not
> everyone has good manners, and not everyone will
> clip.
>  And sometimes, someone will have a comment they
> want
> to make quickly, so they'll just type and send,
> without clipping, because they're in a hurry, or the
> conversation is hot.
>
> Frankly, I think clipping is the least thing a
> moderator should worry about.
>
> My 2 pfennig.
> --Sfandra
>


Baroness Anastasia Alexandrovna Andreeva (OL)

>
> > There is not an SCA group in Finland, and the membership of the last
> > Estonian SCA member has expired so we have no members there any more.
> > There may be a member or two of the Finnish affiliate organization --
> > I don't have their roster -- but not enough to form a branch.
>
> Uh, erm, huh?
>
> There's a whole Barony in Finland! Aarnimetsä, it's called, and it has
> seven cantons. I believe there have been both Drachenwald 12th nights
> and Crown Tourneys held there...

Agreed.  What?

http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/Regnum/index.html#Finland
http://www.aarnimetsa.org/

  - Istvan

I think he meant that there is not an SCA group
in Estonia.  As we know, there is an entire SCA _corporation_ in Finland.

I'm a bit curious about the comment that there
are no SCA in Tallinn as I know of several people
who are active.  It was of them that I was
thinking.  My peer (Jaelle) has much more active communication with them.

-- Paul

At 06:20 PM 9/20/2006, you wrote:
> > > There is not an SCA group in Finland, and the membership of the last
> > > Estonian SCA member has expired so we have no members there any more.
> > > There may be a member or two of the Finnish affiliate organization --
> > > I don't have their roster -- but not enough to form a branch.
> >
> > Uh, erm, huh?
> >
> > There's a whole Barony in Finland! Aarnimetsä, it's called, and it has
> > seven cantons. I believe there have been both Drachenwald 12th nights
> > and Crown Tourneys held there...
>
>Agreed. What?
>
><http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/Regnum/index.html#Finland>http://www.drachenwal\
d.sca.org/Regnum/index.html#Finland
>http://www.aarnimetsa.org/
>
>- Istvan


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Yana,

When this subject first came up I was reluctant to help as I have a Win98
computer with a 56k modem <the line usually is very busy so I only get approx
14k out of it >. The computer hasn't changed, but it appears the need has gotten
greater.

The only qualifications I have are:
lots of free time - I am unemployed
and
a willingness to help

Katheryne

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Well, it's been a while since I asked for help with moderating the
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Instead of what I have been doing, which is editing messages for
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Greetings to the list,

I am Katrine de Saint Brieuc, of An Tir, and my husband would like to have a
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