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#11216 From: sig@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 1:47 am
Subject: File - FAQ.txt
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Slavic Interest Group Mailing List (SIG-L) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Last update:  27 March 2005
Main SIG page
http://slavic.freeservers.com

Main SIG-L page (message archives, etc.)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sig

Old SIG Message Archives
http://sig-arc.hypermart.net/

SIG organizer
Paul Wickenden of Thanet (goldschp@...)

SIG-L moderators
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List Basics

** What is sig@yahoogroups.com?
The SIG List (hereafter called "SIG-L") provides a discussion forum on the
history and culture of the Medieval Slavic, Eastern European, and Central
European world.  We are aimed specifically towards members of the Society for
Creative Anachronism (SCA) with Slavic, Eastern European and Central European
personas, but we provide information and resources to anyone.

** Are SIG-L and the Slavic Interest Group the same organization?
No.  SIG-L is an offshoot of the larger and older Slavic Interest Group
(hereafter called "SIG").  SIG-L was established as an additional way for
members of SIG to talk to each other more quickly than via the quarterly
newsletter.  Not all the members of SIG are on SIG-L and vice versa.  This means
that if you are a member of SIG-L, it does not automatically make you a member
of SIG.  To become a member of SIG, write to the SIG organizer at
goldschp@... or go to http://slavic.freeservers.com and follow the links
there.  Membership is free.  We just ask that you be willing to share what you
know with the rest of us.

** What cultures does SIG-L cover?
SIG-L (and SIG) covers all the former members of the Soviet Union (just for
convenience, no political agenda is implied).  We encompass the medieval
cultures of Russia, Ukraine, Hungary, Romania, Transylvania, Latvia, Lithuania,
Karelia, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Slovenia, Great Moravia, Croatia, Serbia,
Bosnia, Dalmatia, Albania, Poland, Estonia, Belarus, Moldova, Armenia, Georgia,
Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Kirgizistan, Kazakhstan, Turkestan,
Khazaria, and any related ethnic groups.  We aren't _just_ a Slavic
organization, it is just simpler to call ourselves "SIG" instead of trying to
incorporate the initials of all the countries and groups we cover.

** You mentioned a newsletter...
SIG publishes "Slovo", our quarterly newsletter.  "Slovo" means "word" in many
Slavic languages, so we thought it would be a good name for the newsletter.  It
comes out in the middle of the months of January, April, July and October.  The
submission deadlines are the first of those same months.  Slovo is available
free on the web off the main SIG page.  Back issues are also archived there.  If
you need a paper copy, write to the editor at goldschp@....  Paper copies
are also free, but donations are cheerfully accepted to cover copying and
mailing costs.

** Does SIG-L have archives?
Yes, in two places.  The older archives can be viewed at
http://sig-arc.hypermart.net/  The more recent archives are at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sig

** What can I talk about here on SIG-L?
Anything relating to pre-1650 CE (approximately) Slavic or Eastern or Central
European history and culture or anything Slavic, Eastern European or Central
European as it pertains to the SCA is welcome here.  Sometimes we talk about
modern subjects, which is okay as long as we generally stay on topic.  Feel free
to start a new topic, ask questions or debate a subject.  We have beginners on
the List as well as advanced and professional researchers, but everyone is
friendly and we all welcome questions and subjects at any level.

** What is not permitted on the list?
a)  Personal Flamewars.  Debating a subject is fine, heated argument is not.
b)  Personal Attacks/Rudeness.  Attack the argument, not the author.
c)  Ethnic, Regional, Racist, and Cultural insults.  This is absolutely not
acceptable here.
d)  SPAM.  This includes chain letters, appeals from charities, virus warnings,
etc.
e)  UCE (Unsolicited Commercial Email).  Commercial posts are allowed if they
are pre-approved by one of the moderators.

**  What are the basic commands for this list?
SIG-L is based off YahooGroups, a web-based provider.  Through YahooGroups
(http://www.yahoogroups.com) you can subscribe, unsubscribe and otherwise manage
your account.  Simply enter your email address and the password you were given
when you subscribed and follow the directions there.  If you are not yet a
member, follow the directions given there to sign up for an account.

**  What if I don't have web-access or don't want to use the YahooGroups
website?
Not a problem, you can still manage your subscription easily (and you don't even
need a password).  Send a blank email (no message or subject) to the appropriate
address below:

sig-subscribe@yahoogroups.com - subscribe to SIG
sig-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com - unsubscribe from SIG
sig-digest@yahoogroups.com - switch your subscription to digest mode
sig-normal@yahoogroups.com - switch your subscription to normal mode

Be sure to reply to any message that YahooGroups sends you about your account
(and save your password if you were given one!).  If you don't reply,
YahooGroups may think you didn't want to really subscribe/unsubscribe/change
your settings.  This is a safety precaution done to prevent subscribers from
being the victims of pranksters.

**I'm on the digest.  How do I reply to separate messages?
To reply to a message found on the digest, 'cut' the contents of the message
that you wish to quote, 'paste' it in a message to sig@yahoogroups.com, and add
your comments.  Make sure you do NOT reply directly to the From: field on the
digest!  If this becomes a habit, then you will be put on a moderated status and
misdirected replies will be silently deleted.

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List Courtesy

**I think that someone is being rude and insulting!  What can I do?
First, try reading the post again.  Sometimes it is hard to tell what a person
is really saying because of the difficulties of communicating using email.  It
also helps if you read all the posts on a subject before you respond, especially
if you get the digest.  Sometimes the concern has already been addressed.

If you still have a problem with what is being said, you have two options:
a) Talk to a moderator about your concerns.  It is their job is to handle stuff
like this.
b) Reply to the sender of the message without flaming

**What is "flaming"?
Flaming is a post, usually containing an argument or reply, that serves only to
exacerbate the situation.  If you have written something in the heat of anger,
irritation or excitement please re-read the post and take out the elements of
possible insult while getting the logic of your point across.  Flaming is a big
"no-no" on this List and offenders will be put on probation and moderated
(messages will be reviewed by a moderator before being sent to the List). 
Overstepping the bounds of civility and courtesy, on mistake or on purpose, will
not be tolerated.  If the flaming continues, the offender(s) will be banned
permanently.

**I think we are drifting off topic/I think this list is too advanced for me.
If you are concerned that the topic has drifted, feel free to restate the
original topic and try to get everyone back on track. Just do it in a polite
manner.  As for concerns about the List being too advanced, please ask questions
about what you don't understand.  You will find people are very willing to
explain and clarify.  While it is true that sometimes the discussions can get a
bit esoteric, please remember that this List is aimed towards all levels of
research interest.

**Anything else I should know?
a) Please clip your posts!  This means only quoting what is relevant to your own
post and not including the entire letter unless absolutely necessary (which is
extremely rare).  It gets very annoying very quickly to have to page down
through an entire letter (or more!) that someone has stuck on the end of their
reply.

b) Keep subject lines relevant.  If a message thread has evolved to something
that has nothing to do with the original subject, please feel free to change the
subject line to something more appropriate.

***********************************************
Research

** Can you recommend some books for different eras and peoples?
There is an extensive bibliography (with notes) on the web at the main SIG page 
You can also write to the list and ask for recommendations or reviews of
specific books, but it is a lot faster if you look at the SIG bibliography
first.

** Where can I find help developing my persona?
You are in luck!  There are several web pages that members of SIG-L have
created.  We call them Knowledge Pages.  They are aimed towards a specific
country and include information on dress, food, naming practices, persona
development, history, language and other themes.  Simply find the Knowledge Page
you wish and read, read, read!

**What are "the Knowledge Pages?"
They are a series of country-based web pages that are organized using similar
subject categories to aid research. Here you can find information on a wide
variety of subjects such as food, dress, persona development, history and much
more.  You can find the Knowledge Pages under our "Links" on YahooGroups, or
visit the main SIG page.

** Where can I find someone near me?
Feel free to ask on SIG-L!  This is also where becoming a member of SIG comes in
handy.  SIG maintains a member list that lists name, location, interests and
contact information.  You can simply scan the list and contact whomever you
choose.  It is linked off the main SIG page under "members".

**  Are there recipes for my culture? Where would I find them?
**  Where can I get ideas for clothing from my culture?
**  What about music and art?

To all the above: First, check out the appropriate Knowledge Page for the
culture in question.  You might also want to check out the Florilegium, a major
collection of messages arranged by subject headings.  The Florilegium is at
http://www.florilegium.org/
If you can't find answers there, try writing to the List.

We hope this FAQ has been helpful.  If you have any further questions or
suggestions, please let us know.

Happy Researching!

#11217 From: "Terri Hirling" <thirling@...>
Date: Tue Aug 1, 2006 4:08 pm
Subject: ISO of Lady Liudmila Vladimirova doch’
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Hi, my name is Baroness HL Isabeau Quiquandon (Terri Hirling,
Houston, TX), pardon the interruption to your regular scheduled
program.

I've been lurking for sometime now hoping to located Lady Liudmila
Vladimirova doch'.  Is she a member of this list?  If so, I'd
appreciated it greatly if she'd contact me off list regarding her
paper entitled "Russian Women's Headwear and Accessories from IXth
through XVIIth Centuries" and her kokoshnik "how to" (which I fell in
love with by the way) both on the web.  It seems the picture links in
the article are broken and I'd like to know if any of them are
accessable elsewhere.  I'm a costuming apprentice and am having a
difficult time locating "Russian" period artwork from the 15th and
16th centuries for garb research and, in particular, headdresses (I'm
real big on period hats).  Eastern European garb is somewhat foreign
to me as my main focus is Western Europe (English & Italian, just
starting Flemish & German).

Thank you very much for your time.

Regards,
Baroness Isabeau

#11218 From: LiudmilaV@...
Date: Tue Aug 1, 2006 11:15 pm
Subject: Re: ISO of Lady Liudmila Vladimirova doch’
mamainna2000
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In a message dated 8/1/2006 7:36:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
thirling@... writes:

It  seems the picture links in
the article are broken and I'd like to know if  any of them are
accessable elsewhere.


I answered privately, but if anyone else wants those pictures, I plan to  fix
it up soon. I am under orders from my laurel to do something else now,  sorry.

Liudmila


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#11219 From: "Satine De La Courcel" <LadySAtineDeLaCourcel@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 2:07 pm
Subject: Re: ISO of Lady Liudmila Vladimirova doch€ ˘â’ ’ą
ladysatinede...
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Oh yes please! I was having issues to....


THank you !


in Service
Satine

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#11220 From: "Stephanie Ross" <hlaislinn@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 4:20 pm
Subject: plcommonwealth.org
aislinncc
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Hey Pan,

My brother and others in my kindgom have had trouble accessing files at
your site. They think they've found the cause. Thought you might like to
know.

Nadya

Rurik,

I noticed the links in the files section don't work as well, however I did
notice that the links all point to:
http://www.plcommonwealth.org/www.plcommonwealth.org/...

If you remove one of the www.plcommonwealth.org you will find that all the
files work properly... See below:


~Aislinn~
Et si omnes ego non.

"The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the
first and only legitimate object of good government." --Thomas Jefferson to
Maryland Republicans, 1809.

#11221 From: MoxFool@...
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 5:31 pm
Subject: Re: plcommonwealth.org
tomnadra
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I think it's fixed, please give it a shot!

What Kingdom are you all in?

Zygmunt


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To: sig@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:20 PM
Subject: [sig] plcommonwealth.org


Hey Pan,

My brother and others in my kindgom have had trouble accessing files at
your site. They think they've found the cause. Thought you might like to
know.

Nadya

Rurik,

I noticed the links in the files section don't work as well, however I did
notice that the links all point to:
http://www.plcommonwealth.org/www.plcommonwealth.org/...

If you remove one of the www.plcommonwealth.org you will find that all the
files work properly... See below:

~Aislinn~
Et si omnes ego non.

"The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the
first and only legitimate object of good government." --Thomas Jefferson to
Maryland Republicans, 1809.



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#11222 From: DOUGLAS PETROFF <Sergiusb@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 6:51 pm
Subject: Re: Hardcopy Slovo?
sergius19731...
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I have some of the old ones from about 10 years ago, if you want those
to flash around. Let me know. Sergius.

#11223 From: sig@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 7:00 pm
Subject: SIG Gathering, 8/16/2006, 2:00 pm
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Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of sig
SIG Gathering

Wednesday August 16, 2006
2:00 pm - 4:00 pm
This event does not repeat.

Event Location: Aethelmarc Royals Main Pavilion, Pennsic War
Notes:
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#11224 From: MoxFool@...
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 7:17 pm
Subject: Re: SIG Gathering, 8/16/2006, 2:00 pm
tomnadra
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WHat block is this in?

Zygmunt

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Sent: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 3:00 PM
Subject: [sig] SIG Gathering, 8/16/2006, 2:00 pm


Reminder from the Calendar of sig

SIG Gathering

Wednesday August 16, 2006
2:00 pm - 4:00 pm
This event does not repeat.
Event Location: Aethelmarc Royals Main Pavilion, Pennsic War
Notes:
See message #11132 for details
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#11225 From: "Marilyn" <MamaLynx@...>
Date: Thu Aug 3, 2006 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: SIG Gathering, 8/16/2006, 2:00 pm
panimarijah
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I am not sure what block Aethelmearc Royal will be in. Last year it was fairly
close to the A&S class areas. I'm sure it will be listed in the Pennsic book. If
not feel free to look me up in the Diability Camping area last year it was
across from the Middle-eastern tea house. My encampment will have a black
outlined cat prominently displayed. I will be arriving Aug. 5th or 6th and be
there for the duration. If I am not in feel free to leave a message under the
edge of the tea urn on the small table !  If you have any questions or just want
to say Hi stop by and chat for a while !

PS: Jadwiga? If you are going to be there I have been told I should seek you out
regarding a heraldry question...

Lady Marija

Lady Marija

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#11226 From: "Seonaid13" <seonaid13@...>
Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 5:10 pm
Subject: Off to War
Seonaid13
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Well folks, I'm off.  I'm setting my membership to No Emails and
heading out.   I'll be at Pennsic by Sunday evening.

I should be able to make the SIG meeting, but a little late.  I'll have
the big Ukrainian book with me.  And I'll be wearing the "lamellar hat".

See you all there!
--Sfandra Dmitrieva

#11227 From: "Lady Tat'ianna Radokovaia Codlin" <tatianna_codlin@...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2006 4:11 pm
Subject: Slightly OOP: Looking for a Name
lorelei_wraith
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Greetings;

I am getting a midnight black female Pomeranian in September and so far all of
our Pomeranians have Russian names.  We would like to have a name for her that
means black, midnight, darkness, or anything similar.  We are having trouble
finding a name or word that we like, any help would be greatly appreciated.  So
far we have Nikolai, Malakhiia, Kalista, and Misha.

Thanks
Tat'ianna Radokovaia
Barony of Montengarde
Principality of Avacal
Kingdom of An Tir

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#11228 From: "L.M. Kies" <lkies@...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2006 5:58 pm
Subject: RE : Slightly OOP: Looking for a Name
sofyalarus
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>I am getting a midnight black female Pomeranian in September and so far all of
our Pomeranians have Russian names. We would like to have a name for her that
means black, midnight, darkness, or anything similar. We are having trouble
finding a name or word that we like, any help would be greatly appreciated. So
far we have Nikolai, Malakhiia, Kalista, and Misha.
>

I've taken the liberty of writing some of these more phonetically, since the
Library of Congress translation system used in the Dictionary of Period Russian
Names writes both the letters "ye" and "yo" as "e", but they are, of course,
pronounced differently.

"black" names: (LOC transliteration = chern...)
Chornitsa (actually masculine)
Chornaya
Chorn'ka
Chornislava (black praise/glory)

"night" names:
Noch' (actually masculine)
Noch'naya
I don't know if "Nochka" is a real Russian word/name, but it could work.

"dark" names:  (LOC transliteration = temn...)
Tyomnaya
Tyomnik -> Tyomnika for female?
Ten = shadow (actually masculine, and I'm not sure if it should be "tyen" or
"tyon")

The Russian word for midnight is polnoch' (pol = half/middle,
noch=night) but I didn't see any names based on it.

I hope this helps.

Sofya



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#11229 From: "Rick Orli" <orlirva@...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2006 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: RE : Slightly OOP: Looking for a Name
orlirva
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A polish aquaintence of mine had a dog named or nicknamed Murzynka,
derived from Moor. (e.g. Negress)
BTW It was pronounced more like 'muzynka' - that was how I started to
spell it but I looked it up. Polish has few silent letters, so there
was a probabally a slight r in there warming up the Z I did not hear.
-Rick
   in Russian (my dictionary said) negritanka, not as cute. in
Slovenian:  zamorka, Czech: černoška etc.
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> >I am getting a midnight black female Pomeranian in September and so
far all of our Pomeranians have Russian names. We would like to have a
name for her that means black, midnight, darkness, or anything
similar.

#11230 From: "L.M. Kies" <lkies@...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2006 7:56 pm
Subject: RE : Slightly OOP: Looking for a Name
sofyalarus
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Dimut.  Hmm.... 

Would it help if I told you it's not pronounced "dim mutt" but "dee-moot"?

Although it still doesn't sound very "feminine" - how about Dimka (say
"deemka")?

Sofya




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#11231 From: LiudmilaV@...
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2006 11:00 pm
Subject: Re: RE : Slightly OOP: Looking for a Name
mamainna2000
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In a message dated 8/8/2006 11:39:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
lkies@... writes:

"black" names: (LOC transliteration = chern...)
Chornitsa (actually  masculine)
Chornaya
Chorn'ka
Chornislava (black  praise/glory)

"night" names:
Noch' (actually  masculine)
Noch'naya
I don't know if "Nochka" is a real Russian  word/name, but it could work.



Chornittsa is feminine, and so is Noch'. I do recommend "Nochka," it is an
actual diminutive of noch's (night).

Liudmila


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#11232 From: "L.M. Kies" <lkies@...>
Date: Wed Aug 9, 2006 1:02 pm
Subject: RE : Slightly OOP: Looking for a Name
sofyalarus
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>Chornittsa is feminine, and so is Noch'.

I was going by Paul's Dictionary, which lists both Chornitsa and Noch' as period
Russian men's names.  Obviously, they are grammatically feminine, which is
why I included them as possibilities for a female dog's name.  I should
have done a better job of explaining that in my response.  :)

Sofya


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#11233 From: "Deborah Peach" <tatianna_codlin@...>
Date: Wed Aug 9, 2006 2:39 pm
Subject: RE: RE : Slightly OOP: Looking for a Name
lorelei_wraith
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Thank you all very much for the name suggestions.  Now my Lord and I have to
decide on the name that we are going to go with.

Tat'ianna Radokovaia



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>I was going by Paul's Dictionary, which lists both Chornitsa and Noch' as
>period Russian men's names.  Obviously, they are grammatically
>feminine, which is why I included them as possibilities for a female dog's
>name.  I should have done a better job of explaining that in my
>response.  :)
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#11234 From: Susan Koziel <kataryna_dragonweaver@...>
Date: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:40 pm
Subject: How do I track down info from a specific excavation??
kataryna_dra...
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Hi,
   I just found a quote on the polish government site
about decorated easter eggs.

http://www.poland.gov.pl/Polish,holidays,and,customs,412.html
  "Another Easter custom is the tradition of decorating
eggs. The oldest Polish Easter egg comes from the 10th
century and was found at an excavation site in Ostrów.
Interestingly, it was made in a technique very much
like those used today."
Then it goes on to describe the process of making a
wax resist egg.

Needless to say I'm excited (tempered by the many dead
ends of the past...)
So how do I find more information about this
excavation? I wrote a brief email to the site that had
the information asking about the information... but
doubt very much I will hear back from them. I did a
breif google of "Ostrów" but couldn't narrow the
search down enough to get anything worth while.
Does anyone have any other suggestions of how/where I
can look?
Thanks.
-Kataryna

#11235 From: "Tat'ianna Radokovaia" <tatianna_codlin@...>
Date: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:43 pm
Subject: RE: RE : Slightly OOP: Looking for a Name
lorelei_wraith
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Thanks everyone for the wonderful name suggestions.  It made it harder for
my Lord and I to choose a name.  But we have finally done so and her name is
going to be Noch'ka.

Tat'ianna Radokovaia



>From: "L.M. Kies" <lkies@...>
>Reply-To: sig@yahoogroups.com
>To: sig@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE : [sig] Slightly OOP:  Looking for a Name
>Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:02:54 -0400
>
>
> >Chornittsa is feminine, and so is Noch'.
>
>I was going by Paul's Dictionary, which lists both Chornitsa and Noch' as
>period Russian men's names.  Obviously, they are grammatically
>feminine, which is why I included them as possibilities for a female dog's
>name.  I should have done a better job of explaining that in my
>response.  :)
>
>Sofya

#11236 From: LiudmilaV@...
Date: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:40 pm
Subject: Re: RE : Slightly OOP: Looking for a Name
mamainna2000
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In a message dated 8/9/2006 6:06:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
lkies@... writes:

I was  going by Paul's Dictionary, which lists both Chornitsa and Noch' as
period  Russian men's names. Obviously, they are grammatically feminine, which
is  why I included them as possibilities for a female dog's name. I should have
  done a better job of explaining that in my response.  :)




Actually, Sofya, I should have done a better job looking things up. I
didn't, just went with the language. Of course, we were talking about the dog 
name,
so I didn't think it had to be period-correct. However, I am wondering  about
those people's logic..."Chernitsa" is also a title in a nunnery, feminine
equivalent of "chernets."

Liudmila


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#11237 From: "L.M. Kies" <lkies@...>
Date: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:57 pm
Subject: RE : Slightly OOP: Looking for a Name
sofyalarus
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>Of course, we were talking about the dog name,
>so I didn't think it had to be period-correct.

I didn't think it had to be period-correct either, but the Period Dictionary is
the only "comprehensive" source of Russian names I have, period or OOP.  :)

However, I am wondering about
>those people's logic..."Chernitsa" is also a title in a nunnery, feminine
>equivalent of "chernets."

I have noticed many "feminine" men's names in the Period
Dictionary.  Maybe they were more secure in their masculinity? 
Or they realized the difference between grammatical gender and social gender
and the grammar wasn't perceived as any reflection on their
"manhood"... 

Or maybe they didn't "notice" the feminity of the grammar in the word.  A
bit like English speakers who never stop to realize that certain words are
related, especially if they learn them in different
contexts.   ...flame and inflammation... 

Maybe names just got spelled wrong sometimes - genitive, nominative, what's the
difference...?   ;)

Sofya



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#11238 From: "karen" <kievanlady@...>
Date: Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:48 pm
Subject: Welcome home
kievanlady
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Welcome home to all of you who braved Pennsic!  It was wonderful to get
to finally meet some of you and put names to faces!  To those who
brought books and information to share a 1000 thank yous!
In Service-  Kashka Mokosheva

#11239 From: "Marilyn Kinyon" <MamaLynx@...>
Date: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:47 pm
Subject: Pennsic Meeting !
panimarijah
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We had about 35 people at the S.I.G. Group meeting with several
bringing food and books to share. Also Pan Zygmunt showed off some
wonderful garb!!! I tried to set the area up in a circle but ended
up with more crowding in in the back and on the edges. We started
with Intros' and then as a group answered a few specific questions
about garb, embroidery, icon painting, and S.I.G. itself. Many
gentles then shared interesting research they had been doing. These
included a book on Polish garb and a Polish name book created by
group members. We also had some great books people had brought to
share from their personal collectins. Once we all knew who was
who... and who was working on what,  we opened the floor to
individual and small group converstaions along with enjoying the
snacks, kvas,and Raspberry Krupnik! It seemed that a good time was
had by all and much knowledge was shared. Finally, we had to
surrender the area to the next group scheduled and say our good-byes
until next year.

---- As a foot note next year it seems we will need to arrange a
larger space.

  Also, if we wish, I have found an cook willing to prepare excellent
Slavic/ Russ food for us next year should we so desire. This would
need arranging in advance however and could be done either as a
feast with a per head fee of about $6 person...would make a nice
Pennsic meal you wouldn't have to fix? This would need an advance
count, etc.  Or a few of us could chip on a couple of trays of stuff
and just have it out for everyone as a hospitality effort? Let me
know what you think of the idea?

Please send me some feedback on what you would like or NOT like to
see next year. I am already thinking to arrange it later in the
afternoon and for a longer time?

Marija ( who's name is being resubmitted as Mariia Kotokova per the
Heralds... I'll keep you posted )

#11240 From: MoxFool@...
Date: Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: Pennsic Meeting !
tomnadra
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Mariia,

Thanks for the kind words about the garb and the krupnik! It was a very
great pleasure to meet all of you and finally put faces with names. I am really
looking forward to next year and our meeting, and talking about all the new
things we'll be doing.

Thanks to whomever (Yana?) organized and co-ordinated our meeting so that  we
could use AEthelmearc's tent.

Czesc Pan Zygmunt Nadratowski,
Servant of Sir Dag Thorgrimsson, Master Mordok  Rostovskogo
Middle Kingdom, Shire of Talonval
_The Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth_ (http://www.plcommonwealth.org/)
Narcolepsy is when you can't stay awake.  Insomnia is when you can't  sleep.
Having both at one time is called Parenthood - Bodvarr  Geirsson


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#11241 From: "Stephanie Ross" <hlaislinn@...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2006 11:22 pm
Subject: RE: Slightly OOP: Looking for a Name
aislinncc
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Chorni or chornaya means black in Russian. I had a black lab named Zorya one
time - it means "dawn".

~Nadya~


Greetings;

I am getting a midnight black female Pomeranian in September and so far all of
our Pomeranians have Russian names. We would like to have a name for her that
means black, midnight, darkness, or anything similar. We are having trouble
finding a name or word that we like, any help would be greatly appreciated. So
far we have Nikolai, Malakhiia, Kalista, and Misha.

Thanks
Tat'ianna Radokovaia

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#11242 From: charles stefanich <mos6238@...>
Date: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:37 am
Subject: Re: Welcome home
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Sorry I had to miss the SIG meeting had other duties requiring my pressence else
where. Maybe next year.
   Valkai istvan

karen <kievanlady@...> wrote:
           Welcome home to all of you who braved Pennsic! It was wonderful to get
to finally meet some of you and put names to faces! To those who
brought books and information to share a 1000 thank yous!
In Service- Kashka Mokosheva






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#11243 From: purplkat@...
Date: Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:48 pm
Subject: Re: Welcome home
kringskeep
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No problem, on missing the meeting.

I met a couple in DROOOOLLLLL-worthy garb a few hours later, only to find out
they were originally from Poland and had just immegraged(sp?) to Canada. They
were upset they had missed the meeting.

They gave me their card (which is at home - not here), and I have to remember to
post their info on the sig site for all to see.

Lady Katheryne
aka Panni Katardzyna Niedzwiedzska Bochenek

----- Original Message -----
From: charles stefanich <mos6238@...>

> Sorry I had to miss the SIG meeting had other duties requiring my
> pressence else where. Maybe next year.
>  Valkai istvan
>
> karen <kievanlady@...> wrote:
>          Welcome home to all of you who braved Pennsic! It was
> wonderful to get
> to finally meet some of you and put names to faces! To those who
> brought books and information to share a 1000 thank yous!
> In Service- Kashka Mokosheva

#11244 From: "Lynda Fjellman" <lfjellman@...>
Date: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:30 pm
Subject: real polish folks
lyndafjellman
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Oh yes please, even though they now live in Canada, they will know where
the best places to go in Poland are.  Hubby and I are going next year
and are looking for advice.  (and maybe guides)
Ilaria


They gave me their card (which is at home - not here), and I have to
remember to post their info on the sig site for all to see.

Lady Katheryne
aka Panni Katardzyna Niedzwiedzska Bochenek

#11245 From: MoxFool@...
Date: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:38 pm
Subject: Re: Welcome home
tomnadra
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In a message dated 8/21/2006 5:01:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
purplkat@... writes:

They  gave me their card (which is at home - not here), and I have to
remember to  post their info on the sig site for all to  see.>>

That would be the lovely couple Tom & Ursula. Tom does super fine  weapon
reconditioning: _http://www.tomsarsenal.com_ (http://www.tomsarsenal.com)  .


Czesc Pan Zygmunt Nadratowski,
Servant of Sir Dag Thorgrimsson, Master Mordok  Rostovskogo
Middle Kingdom, Shire of Talonval
My homepage - _http://members.aol.com/moxfool/zygmunt.html_
(http://members.aol.com/moxfool/zygmunt.html)
Narcolepsy  is when you can't stay awake.  Insomnia is when you can't sleep.
  Having both at one time is called Parenthood - Bodvarr  Geirsson


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