Slavic Interest Group Mailing List (SIG-L) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Last update:  27 March 2005
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** What is sig@yahoogroups.com?
The SIG List (hereafter called "SIG-L") provides a discussion forum on the
history and culture of the Medieval Slavic, Eastern European, and Central
European world.  We are aimed specifically towards members of the Society for
Creative Anachronism (SCA) with Slavic, Eastern European and Central European
personas, but we provide information and resources to anyone.

** Are SIG-L and the Slavic Interest Group the same organization?
No.  SIG-L is an offshoot of the larger and older Slavic Interest Group
(hereafter called "SIG").  SIG-L was established as an additional way for
members of SIG to talk to each other more quickly than via the quarterly
newsletter.  Not all the members of SIG are on SIG-L and vice versa.  This means
that if you are a member of SIG-L, it does not automatically make you a member
of SIG.  To become a member of SIG, write to the SIG organizer at
goldschp@... or go to http://slavic.freeservers.com and follow the links
there.  Membership is free.  We just ask that you be willing to share what you
know with the rest of us.

** What cultures does SIG-L cover?
SIG-L (and SIG) covers all the former members of the Soviet Union (just for
convenience, no political agenda is implied).  We encompass the medieval
cultures of Russia, Ukraine, Hungary, Romania, Transylvania, Latvia, Lithuania,
Karelia, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Slovenia, Great Moravia, Croatia, Serbia,
Bosnia, Dalmatia, Albania, Poland, Estonia, Belarus, Moldova, Armenia, Georgia,
Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Kirgizistan, Kazakhstan, Turkestan,
Khazaria, and any related ethnic groups.  We aren't _just_ a Slavic
organization, it is just simpler to call ourselves "SIG" instead of trying to
incorporate the initials of all the countries and groups we cover.

** You mentioned a newsletter...
SIG publishes "Slovo", our quarterly newsletter.  "Slovo" means "word" in many
Slavic languages, so we thought it would be a good name for the newsletter.  It
comes out in the middle of the months of January, April, July and October.  The
submission deadlines are the first of those same months.  Slovo is available
free on the web off the main SIG page.  Back issues are also archived there.  If
you need a paper copy, write to the editor at goldschp@....  Paper copies
are also free, but donations are cheerfully accepted to cover copying and
mailing costs.

** Does SIG-L have archives?
Yes, in two places.  The older archives can be viewed at
http://sig-arc.hypermart.net/  The more recent archives are at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sig

** What can I talk about here on SIG-L?
Anything relating to pre-1650 CE (approximately) Slavic or Eastern or Central
European history and culture or anything Slavic, Eastern European or Central
European as it pertains to the SCA is welcome here.  Sometimes we talk about
modern subjects, which is okay as long as we generally stay on topic.  Feel free
to start a new topic, ask questions or debate a subject.  We have beginners on
the List as well as advanced and professional researchers, but everyone is
friendly and we all welcome questions and subjects at any level.

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through an entire letter (or more!) that someone has stuck on the end of their
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Research

** Can you recommend some books for different eras and peoples?
There is an extensive bibliography (with notes) on the web at the main SIG page 
You can also write to the list and ask for recommendations or reviews of
specific books, but it is a lot faster if you look at the SIG bibliography
first.

** Where can I find help developing my persona?
You are in luck!  There are several web pages that members of SIG-L have
created.  We call them Knowledge Pages.  They are aimed towards a specific
country and include information on dress, food, naming practices, persona
development, history, language and other themes.  Simply find the Knowledge Page
you wish and read, read, read!

**What are "the Knowledge Pages?"
They are a series of country-based web pages that are organized using similar
subject categories to aid research. Here you can find information on a wide
variety of subjects such as food, dress, persona development, history and much
more.  You can find the Knowledge Pages under our "Links" on YahooGroups, or
visit the main SIG page.

** Where can I find someone near me?
Feel free to ask on SIG-L!  This is also where becoming a member of SIG comes in
handy.  SIG maintains a member list that lists name, location, interests and
contact information.  You can simply scan the list and contact whomever you
choose.  It is linked off the main SIG page under "members".

**  Are there recipes for my culture? Where would I find them?
**  Where can I get ideas for clothing from my culture?
**  What about music and art?

To all the above: First, check out the appropriate Knowledge Page for the
culture in question.  You might also want to check out the Florilegium, a major
collection of messages arranged by subject headings.  The Florilegium is at
http://www.florilegium.org/
If you can't find answers there, try writing to the List.

We hope this FAQ has been helpful.  If you have any further questions or
suggestions, please let us know.

Happy Researching!

I'm not the vendor, just a sad consumer wanna-be.

"Russian silver temple ring, circa 1150, Kiev type, diameter 2 in. (5
cm), partially damaged, identical piece in similar condition is
illustrated in "The Gold Reserves of the Russian Museum", 1998, No.
22."

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1215&item=6535696847&rd=1\
&ssPageName=WDVW

If anyone picks this up (for a mere $450) please let us know!

-- Kseniia
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Lady Kseniia Smolnianina
Barony of Three Mountains
Note my new e-mail address!

anyone out there into costuming?  i'm really perplexed as to what kind
of trim to use on a sarafan.  hand embroidered?  what sort of
embroidery?  bought from a trim merchant?  what sort of design?  i
have so far made two sarafans and have used Japanese braid
(kumihimo).  it looks good and is hand done but i'm sure it's
not 'correct.'  and advice?

--anya

I put on bought trim from a local craft store on my cow-print sarafan. It was a
1" wide red/white/black diamond pattern.

Next one I'm making is going to have 3" red fabric for the hem and 2" wide for
the rest. I saw some nice 'oriental' rayon fabric at JoAnns in red with
white/pink small flowers on it.

I also made a plain brown sarafan and put a 'stacked' thin white on wider red
bias tape down the center front of it. I then put pewter buttons on top of the
tape. The buttons had a simple snowflake design on them.
Of course this was for wearing at Aethelmaerc events. Their devise is red
background with a white escarbunkle (snowflake-like design).

Katardzyna
aka Katheryne

----- Original Message -----
From: anyakyle <anyakyle@...>
> anyone out there into costuming?  i'm really perplexed as to what kind
> of trim to use on a sarafan.  hand embroidered?  what sort of embroidery? 
bought from a trim merchant?  what sort of design?  i have so far made two
sarafans and have used Japanese braid (kumihimo).  it looks good and is hand
done but i'm sure it's not 'correct.'  and advice?
>
> --anya

Greetings Slavic Interest Group!

As always, we're looking for contributions:  short articles, how-to pieces,
artwork, interesting anecdotes of the Slavic world (historical or
reenacted).  As always, I'm pleased to answer any editorial questions that
you might have.

The deadline for the Summer issue is July 1st.  The date is flexible so
give me a heads up if you're working on something but can't quite make the
deadline.

Thanks,

Paul Wickenden of Thanet (for SIG)

Kseniia writes...

> "Russian silver temple ring, circa 1150, Kiev type, [snip]

The first question of course must relate to the authenticity of the
object - the fact that it is so similar to one in a catalogue raises the
question of whether or not it is an imitation.  (A "guarantee of
authenticity" from the vendor is not acceptable, of course - a 3rd party
assessment might be).

The second question is the legality of the sale. There is zero
information above provenance, and since the vendor is apparently a
Russian in Chicago there must be a suspicion that the item was exported
illegally from Russia... if not directly looted from a site somewhere by
a metal detectorist. Nowhere is the legal status of the object defined,
nor is it explained how it arrived in the USA.

Please note that grave related items *from the United States* cannot be
sold on e-Bay.com; e-Bay's persistent unwillingness to prevent the sale
of antiquities and grave goods from elsewhere has been raising hackles
among archaeologists (in particular) for quite some time... after all,
they are in effect encouraging the looting of archaeological sites by
permitting such material to be sold.

Alastair

Alastair Millar BSc(Hons) - http://www.skriptorium.info
= Translation & consultancy for the heritage industry =


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I have something which is related to Food and Old Eastern Slavs and their
Mythology however it is in Italian. Could it work so?
aldo c. marturano---------- Initial Header -----------

[Clip your posts.]

Unfortunately, it probably won't be of much use to Slovo as the readership is
overwealmingly English-speaking.

If the article is ever translated to English, I'd be very interested in it
however.

-- Paul

> I have something which is related to Food and Old Eastern Slavs and their
Mythology however it is in Italian. Could it work so?
> aldo c. marturano---------- Initial Header -----------

Good points.  I think I just got overexcited.  :)

On a related topic, anyone know who might make decent reproductions in the US?

--Kseniia

On 6/5/05, Alastair Millar <alastair@...> wrote:
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> Kseniia writes...
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> > "Russian silver temple ring, circa 1150, Kiev type, [snip]
>
> The first question of course must relate to the authenticity of the
> object - the fact that it is so similar to one in a catalogue raises the
> question of whether or not it is an imitation.  (A "guarantee of
> authenticity" from the vendor is not acceptable, of course - a 3rd party
> assessment might be).
>
> The second question is the legality of the sale. [snip]

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Barony of Three Mountains
Note my new e-mail address!

There are a lot of good jewelers in the SCA.  Most will do custom work.  Two
of the best that I know personally are Fjorlief in Haga (enamelist) and
William Beornson (silversmith).  I have pieces from both of them.

IS
Vasilisa Myshkina
Glymm Mere, An Tir


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I understand. I will translate it and send it over. I hope to cope with the
fixed due date.
Should I send it to ur email or where to? It's about 10 pages long. Is it too
long and what else shall I do to keep within ur frames? Let me know. Thanks,
Bye.
Aldo

[Clip your posts]

William Beornson is amazing - I just can't afford him.  :(  Out of
curiousity, are you the "Vasya" for whom he made the pair of silver
cuffs?  If so, I'd love to see a photo!  He was telling me about them
at an event (Egil's), and pointed out the sources he used for the
designs.

-- Kseniia
Three Mountains, An Tir

On 6/7/05, bphall76@... <bphall76@...> wrote:
> There are a lot of good jewelers in the SCA.  Most will do custom work.  Two
> of the best that I know personally are Fjorlief in Haga (enamelist) and
> William Beornson (silversmith).  I have pieces from both of them.
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Lady Kseniia Smolnianina
Barony of Three Mountains
Note my new e-mail address!

For a number of reasons (mostly speed and efficiency), I'm considering producing
the online Slovo in Acrobat (pdf) rather than continuing to web the hardcopy as
a separate document.

The downside to this is that the content will now be identical to the hard copy
(in the past, the webbed version has included bonus items not found in the hard
copy).  The upside is that the content will now be identical.

Thoughts?  Comments?

-- Paul

X-JumpGate Networks Webmail - Mason City, Iowa: Originating-IP

I find accessing pdf files irritating.  They load slowly, and the web
navigation controls don't work the way they should.  But if it will save you
time in this valuable (and appreciated) work, I will be content with the change.

Sofya la Rus

Quoting goldschp@...:

> For a number of reasons (mostly speed and efficiency), I'm considering
> producing the online Slovo in Acrobat (pdf) rather than continuing to web the
> hardcopy as a separate document.
>
> The downside to this is that the content will now be identical to the hard
> copy (in the past, the webbed version has included bonus items not found in
> the hard copy).  The upside is that the content will now be identical.
>
> Thoughts?  Comments?
>
> -- Paul

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Everything here at work is pdf.
'dok

--- Lisa Kies <lkies@...> wrote:

> X-JumpGate Networks Webmail - Mason City, Iowa:
> Originating-IP
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> I find accessing pdf files irritating.  They load
> slowly, and the web
> navigation controls don't work the way they should.
> But if it will save you
> time in this valuable (and appreciated) work, I will
> be content with the change.
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> Sofya la Rus
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> Quoting goldschp@...:
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> > For a number of reasons (mostly speed and
> efficiency), I'm considering
> > producing the online Slovo in Acrobat (pdf) rather
> than continuing to web the
> > hardcopy as a separate document.
> >
> > The downside to this is that the content will now
> be identical to the hard
> > copy (in the past, the webbed version has included
> bonus items not found in
> > the hard copy).  The upside is that the content
> will now be identical.
> >
> > Thoughts?  Comments?
> >
> > -- Paul
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I can. Do either of them have a website? 'dok

--- Kseniia Smolnianina <kseniia@...> wrote:

> William Beornson is amazing - I just can't afford
> him.  :(  Out of
> curiousity, are you the "Vasya" for whom he made the
> pair of silver
> cuffs?  If so, I'd love to see a photo!  He was
> telling me about them
> at an event (Egil's), and pointed out the sources he
> used for the
> designs.
>
> -- Kseniia
> Three Mountains, An Tir
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> On 6/7/05, bphall76@... <bphall76@...>
> wrote:
> > There are a lot of good jewelers in the SCA.  Most
> will do custom work.  Two
> > of the best that I know personally are Fjorlief in
> Haga (enamelist) and
> > William Beornson (silversmith).  I have pieces
> from both of them.
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> Lady Kseniia Smolnianina
> Barony of Three Mountains
> Note my new e-mail address!
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I think this is William's site:  http://www.billdawsonmetalsmith.com/

Vasilisa, does this look like the right site to you?

Fjorlief's site is:  http://www.fineartisanry.com/

Both are located in the Pacific Northwest.

--Kseniia

On 6/8/05, Tim Nalley <mordakus@...> wrote:
> I can. Do either of them have a website? 'dok
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> --- Kseniia Smolnianina <kseniia@...> wrote:
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> > William Beornson is amazing - I just can't afford
> > him.  :(

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Lady Kseniia Smolnianina
Barony of Three Mountains
Note my new e-mail address!

There is also Master Danr, who does really great work, primarily with
iron, in the Upper Midwest (Minnesota).
His website is: http://www.irontreeworks.com/

  ~Aryenne

Greetings all.  I'm picking my way through a Polish caption that shows
what I would call an embroidered scarf or sash. Could someone tell me
what ran(accent or dot over the n)tucha means? It isn't in my Polish
English dictionary.

Thank you
Magdalena Gdanska

rantucha ?   I have never heard that word in my language ..
by the way its not an accent over "n"  .. its just different letter than "n" ..
kind of soft "n"
we have also   a, e, s,  c, z, z  ...

Cezar
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Magdalena Gdanska
   To: sig@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:58 AM
   Subject: [sig] translation please


   Greetings all.  I'm picking my way through a Polish caption that shows
   what I would call an embroidered scarf or sash. Could someone tell me
   what ran(accent or dot over the n)tucha means? It isn't in my Polish
   English dictionary.

   Thank you
   Magdalena Gdanska






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Well, since you ask, I don't like pdf documents. They take too long for my
dial-up connection to download and I can't cut and paste the parts I want to
save. However, I do understand the need for efficiency.
Ilijana Krakowska

goldschp@... wrote:
For a number of reasons (mostly speed and efficiency), I'm considering producing
the online Slovo in Acrobat (pdf) rather than continuing to web the hardcopy as
a separate document.

The downside to this is that the content will now be identical to the hard copy
(in the past, the webbed version has included bonus items not found in the hard
copy). The upside is that the content will now be identical.

Thoughts? Comments?

-- Paul





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One of the problems I'm running up against is size.  In the old days, I stuck to
very simple HTML code -- often stripping out extraneous material to make Slovo
quite small (around 20-50K).

HTML, however, is on the way out these days, and being rapidly replaced by CSS,
and the result is messier and more verbose code.  The most recent Slovo was
produced in CSS rather than straight HTML (courtesy of my WP12 converter) and
ended up around 170KB.  It was quite ugly.

Not sure there are any pretty solutions anymore.  Dial-up is becoming less and
less supported and developers hardly mind exceeding 100K (or even 1MB) anymore.
:(

I am tempted to compare a PDF of the next Slovo with a CSS version and see which
one is a bigger pig.

Your second concern also is on my mind.  The HTML versions make sense if people
are using it online or electronically.  PDF makes more sense if people are
printing it out and photocopying it.  How are people using it?


> Well, since you ask, I don't like pdf documents. They take too long for my
dial-up connection to download and I can't cut and paste the parts I want to
save. However, I do understand the need for efficiency.

A quick search on google brought up two hits, on in English which I copied here
and another in Polish, which I didn't.

Polish Costume and Military Equipment 17th C.
This sort of motif for a bonnet is seen in many Polish portraits, attached by
servant with a thin head covering like a small shawl (rantucha) (Fig 50) ...
www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/PolArtCostumeWeapons.htm

Cezary Wyszynski <cezar@...> wrote:
rantucha ? I have never heard that word in my language ..
by the way its not an accent over "n" .. its just different letter than "n" ..
kind of soft "n"
we have also a, e, s, c, z, z ...

Cezar
----- Original Message -----
From: Magdalena Gdanska
To: sig@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:58 AM
Subject: [sig] translation please


Greetings all. I'm picking my way through a Polish caption that shows
what I would call an embroidered scarf or sash. Could someone tell me
what ran(accent or dot over the n)tucha means? It isn't in my Polish
English dictionary.

Thank you
Magdalena Gdanska






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> HTML, however, is on the way out these days, and being rapidly replaced by
CSS, and the result is messier and more verbose code.  The most recent Slovo was
produced in CSS rather than straight HTML (courtesy of my WP12 converter) and
ended up around 170KB.  It was quite ugly.

Geeking out for a moment:
Eep. CSS isn't always a creeping problem, even with XML instead of HTML.
The problem is probably more in the WP
converter, I'm afraid. I'd suggest installing the Mozilla Suite (NOT
thunderbird/firefox) and cutting and pasting into a blank HTML page in
Mozilla Composer. You'll find the files much smaller.

I read the articles online, though I try to print out and save the
issues but I keep losing them.

Anyway, Paul, I can probably help out with tech aspects after July 4; I
am scheduled to collapse on that date and refuse to do anything but
teach at Pennsic for, um, months or something.

--
-- Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, Knowledge Pika jenne@...
"All of us have special ones who have loved us into being. Would you
just take, along with me, ten seconds to think of the people who have
helped you become who you are. " -- Mr. Fred Rogers

As for myself, I read it online.

Vasilisa Myshkina


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Yup that's me.  Fortunately for me Master William takes payments.  He also
teaches different metal working techniques.

IS
Vasilisa Myshkina


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Yes, those web addresses look correct.  It's been a while since I've looked
at them, though.

Vasilisa


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One thing that may be an issue when using pdf is the matter of online searching.
If something is discussed in an article in a past issue of Slovo, and
I don't know about it, but I do a Google search on the subject, the
relevant Slovo article would turn up in my search. I'm not certain how
well that would work with pdfs, as I have in the past run into some
trouble when searching for content of pdfs.
I use Slovo rather often as a resource I find when doing a general
search, so losing that particular capability would be quite a loss, in
my opinion.

  ~Aryenne

I know it isn't what you're looking for, since you want US suppliers, but
I'm fairly sure Birka Traders in Australia makes reproductions that aren't
custom work.
http://www.birkatraders.com

Their website is not really up at the moment, but I'm sure you could e-mail
them and ask about it. They usually have a set price list with all sorts of
fantastic stuff on it.

Apologies for being Australia-centric
Asfridhr


>Subject: Re: RE: Temple ring on E-bay
>
>Good points.  I think I just got overexcited.  :)
>
>On a related topic, anyone know who might make decent reproductions in the
>US?
>
>--Kseniia

A very good point.  PDFs do show up in Google, and Google is capable of full
text searches on pdf'd documents, but I've never measured whether it loses
anything along the way or not.

On the back burner for some time has been updating the Slovo indexes (started by
Ilyana about 6-7 years ago).  If I escalate the updating of the indexes, perhaps
that would provide a useful alternative way to search for content.

-- Paul

> One thing that may be an issue when using pdf is the matter of online
searching.
> If something is discussed in an article in a past issue of Slovo, and
> I don't know about it, but I do a Google search on the subject, the
> relevant Slovo article would turn up in my search. I'm not certain how
> well that would work with pdfs, as I have in the past run into some
> trouble when searching for content of pdfs.
> I use Slovo rather often as a resource I find when doing a general
> search, so losing that particular capability would be quite a loss, in
> my opinion.
>
>  ~Aryenne