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#4277 From: "Mitch" <summitch@...>
Date: Sat Jul 1, 2006 5:41 pm
Subject: Re: Music on the trail
mmillerphotos
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Chris

Much as I enjoy listening to birds and wind, I tire of the sound of my
boots on rock.  I use music that is like a metronome for my gait; New
Age and Native American for the uphill, Rock for the downhill.  Others
like the upbeat music for the uphill to inspire.

Whatever you choose, don't forget to listen to the birds and wind from
time to time.

Mitch

--- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, "Christopher Randall"
<randall.cj@...> wrote:
>
> Just curious what music people listen to on the trail, if at all.
For
> those of you "purists" that choose not to listen to music on the
trail
> (or condemn the practice altogether), this question probably isn't
> relevant to you.
>
> I'm contemplating bringing my iPod shuffle along on the trail next
time
> after hiking down the Devil's Backbone on Baldy with a woman who was
> cruising along listening to some tunes on her shuffle.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>

#4278 From: Ellen Clary <ellen@...>
Date: Sat Jul 1, 2006 10:57 pm
Subject: Re: Yosemite: Tenaya Canyon
ellenclary
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So since I appear to be very sensitive to altitude gains (even with
medication and slow ascent and lots of water) I've been questing for
other adventures that are generally below 10k'.  Clearly skiing, rock
climbing, biking, and kayaking are on the list, but I was wondering if
anyone knew whether anyone did guided canyoneering trips in Tenaya
Canyon in Yosemite (the one the maps say not to go to) as it looks
really, really cool, if you don't mind rappels, bouldering, and even
wading/swimming.  (A guide appears to be essential as going a slightly
wrong direction could lead to highly undesired epic adventure on some
very steep slick rock.)

This site refers to Bob Courtemenche as one possibility.
http://www.dankat.com/swhikes/tenaya.htm

Ellen Clary
(Whose body minds drops in air pressure.)

#4279 From: "nathan" <nathan_holcomb2002@...>
Date: Sun Jul 2, 2006 6:11 pm
Subject: Moses Mountain x2, 7-1-06
dangerouspoets
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Climbed Moses Mountain again yesterday. It was the last mountain of
last year and the first mountain of this year for me. My friend Sam
wanted to do some scouting for the bow season in the area, so I
suggested we grab a peak at the same time. Pictures here
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dangerouspoets/album?.dir=980dscd&.src=ph
&store=&prodid=&.done=http%
3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dangerouspoets/my_photos

#4280 From: Ellen Clary <ellen@...>
Date: Sun Jul 2, 2006 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Sierra Scrambles] Muisc on the trail
ellenclary
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I'm one of the purists who don't, but learned of a good use for iPods
that I would use in a heartbeat if I was ever in the situation.

iPods with movies on them are great for the day(s) when you can't leave
your snow camp because of a storm.

Ellen Clary


>         Music on the trail
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>
>     Just curious what music people listen to on the trail, if at all.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Chris
>



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#4281 From: "Bob Burd" <snwbord@...>
Date: Sun Jul 2, 2006 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: Yosemite: Tenaya Canyon
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A guide is not needed unless you are not confident in routefinding.
There aren't a whole lot of route choices down in the canyon, so you
just need to look around a bit. You'll not want to do this route
until September though, when the water level is significantly lower.
October would be even better. The most common route seems to be a
one-way descent. I've only gone up the canyon, which makes for a
long day. You can get more info on this canyon from summitpost:
http://www.summitpost.org/canyon/160152/Tenaya-Canyon.html

-bob

--- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, Ellen Clary <ellen@...>
wrote:
>
>
> So since I appear to be very sensitive to altitude gains (even
with
> medication and slow ascent and lots of water) I've been questing
for
> other adventures that are generally below 10k'.  Clearly skiing,
rock
> climbing, biking, and kayaking are on the list, but I was
wondering if
> anyone knew whether anyone did guided canyoneering trips in Tenaya
> Canyon in Yosemite (the one the maps say not to go to) as it looks
> really, really cool, if you don't mind rappels, bouldering, and
even
> wading/swimming.  (A guide appears to be essential as going a
slightly
> wrong direction could lead to highly undesired epic adventure on
some
> very steep slick rock.)
>
> This site refers to Bob Courtemenche as one possibility.
> http://www.dankat.com/swhikes/tenaya.htm
>
> Ellen Clary
> (Whose body minds drops in air pressure.)
>

#4282 From: "wetsponge007" <wetsponge007@...>
Date: Sun Jul 2, 2006 9:44 pm
Subject: Re: Music on the trail
wetsponge007
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Hi Chris,
I actually listen to heavy metal when I am mountain biking. --- In
sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, "Christopher Randall" <randall.cj@...>
wrote:
>
> Just curious what music people listen to on the trail, if at all. For
> those of you "purists" that choose not to listen to music on the
trail
> (or condemn the practice altogether), this question probably isn't
> relevant to you.
>
> I'm contemplating bringing my iPod shuffle along on the trail next
time
> after hiking down the Devil's Backbone on Baldy with a woman who was
> cruising along listening to some tunes on her shuffle.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>

#4283 From: "Christopher Randall" <randall.cj@...>
Date: Mon Jul 3, 2006 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: Moses Mountain x2, 7-1-06
christopher_...
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A helpful tip for these stubbornly-long URLs...try TinyURL, check it
out, it makes short URLs that you can paste into your posts to there's
no line wrapping:

http://tinyurl.com/jgqrh

Hope that helps!
Chris

--- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, "nathan"
<nathan_holcomb2002@...> wrote:
>
> Climbed Moses Mountain again yesterday. It was the last mountain of
> last year and the first mountain of this year for me. My friend Sam
> wanted to do some scouting for the bow season in the area, so I
> suggested we grab a peak at the same time. Pictures here
>
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dangerouspoets/album?.dir=980dscd&.src=ph
> &store=&prodid=&.done=http%
> 3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dangerouspoets/my_photos
>

#4284 From: "Ellen Clary" <ellen@...>
Date: Mon Jul 3, 2006 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: an understanding S.O.
ellenclary
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--- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burd" <snwbord@...> wrote:
>
> Heh - heh, that could be a whole book I suppose. :-)
>
> Having a significant other that is *very* understanding is key.
> Without it, you're dead in the water.

Inquiring minds want to know if your S.O. has see this photo of you
climbing up a slab that has air visible underneath it?

http://www.summitpost.org/view_object.php?object_id=133803

Plus other ones in your gallery like one's that show you free climbing
class 5 routes? ;)

BTW do you ever hire out as a guide?

Ellen Clary

#4285 From: "Ellen Clary" <ellen@...>
Date: Mon Jul 3, 2006 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: an understanding S.O.
ellenclary
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--- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, "Ellen Clary" <ellen@...> wrote:
>
> --- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burd" <snwbord@> wrote:
> >
> > Heh - heh, that could be a whole book I suppose. :-)
> >
> > Having a significant other that is *very* understanding is key.
> > Without it, you're dead in the water.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know if your S.O. has see this photo of you
> climbing up a slab that has air visible underneath it?
>
> http://www.summitpost.org/view_object.php?object_id=133803
>
> Plus other ones in your gallery like one's that show you free climbing
> class 5 routes? ;)
>

Or this one?
http://www.summitpost.org/view_object.php?object_id=29847

#4286 From: "Bob Burd" <snwbord@...>
Date: Tue Jul 4, 2006 5:47 am
Subject: Re: an understanding S.O.
snwburd
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I don't go out of my way to show them to her, but they aren't hidden
either - she knows how to find them on my website as much as anyone.
She doesn't *really* want to know too much because she will worry.
Sort of a don't ask, don't tell policy.

I've never hired out as a guide, btw. Don't need the money and don't
want the added responsibility. But I do enjoy hiking with others
(which is the main thing I like about the Sierra Challenge).

-bob

--- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, "Ellen Clary" <ellen@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, "Ellen Clary" <ellen@>
wrote:
> >
> > --- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burd" <snwbord@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Heh - heh, that could be a whole book I suppose. :-)
> > >
> > > Having a significant other that is *very* understanding is key.
> > > Without it, you're dead in the water.
> >
> > Inquiring minds want to know if your S.O. has see this photo of
you
> > climbing up a slab that has air visible underneath it?
> >
> > http://www.summitpost.org/view_object.php?object_id=133803
> >
> > Plus other ones in your gallery like one's that show you free
climbing
> > class 5 routes? ;)
> >
>
> Or this one?
> http://www.summitpost.org/view_object.php?object_id=29847
>

#4287 From: "Bob Burd" <snwbord@...>
Date: Sat Jul 8, 2006 2:48 am
Subject: Mammoth Fun
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Matthew is back from Shanghai again. Homeless, he wandered to the
east side to meet up with me for a few days of scrambling. I was in
Mammoth Lake with the family for a week and had arranged a few days
out with Matthew.

Monday we headed out to Devils Postpile to tackle a few of the easier
Minarets. We'd hoped to do five, but ended up doing 4 (Riegelhuth,
Pridham, Starr, Kehrlein). The middle two were easy, but the first
and last were old school class 4 which means we either used a rope
(Riegelhuth) or probably should have (Kehrlein). We had two steep,
snow-filled chutes to climb that were spicy in their own right. One
was on the way up to the saddle between the first two from Minaret
Lake, and the other was to the main Minaret crest from Deadhorse
Lake. The latter even had an old rappel sling at the top which
suggests that chute is harder without snow than with. After Kehrlein
we descended South Notch which by comparison was an easy snow
glissade down to Cecile Lake before heading back. Matthew thought the
rock we climbed was crappy and loose, while I thought it was fairly
decent, which only shows how subjective it can be.

Thursday we did an ascent of Mt. Morgan (N) via the Nevahbe Ridge.
The route appeared in Fiddler and Moynier's first edition of the 100
Best Climbs in the Sierra Nevada. While it was fun, it wasn't *that*
fun, which may explain why it was dropped from the second edition and
hasn't appeared in anyone else's list of great climbs. The variety of
rock encountered on the 5,000ft+ route is tremendous, half a dozen
types of volcanic flows and formations, topped by a granite-strewn
slog at the summit. None of it was more than class 3 (and we stuck
pretty religiously to the ridge), and it could be kept to class 2
with only slight deviations to either side. The slope is relentless,
which makes for a great exercise in elevation gain without too many
miles - if that sort of thing appeals to you. :-)

In between those days Matthew was out climbing Mt. Gabb (tons and
tons of snow in the Italy Lake Basin), as well as Patricia and
Pointless Peaks in the Rock Creek area. He's still out there on the
East Side today and for the next few days. If you run into an
overloaded, black Suburu Forrester in one of the trailhead
parkinglots, be sure to leave him a friendly note.

#4288 From: "Michael Graupe" <mdv_graupe@...>
Date: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: Mammoth Fun
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Had some fun in the same area this weekend, actually on the same
mountain. On Sunday I hiked from Rock Creek via Hilton Lakes up Mt.
Stanford and continued on to Mt. Morgan along the ridge. The views
were spectacular and I would have enjoyed it a lot more if those
thunderclouds would not have chased me along to make it over the top
of Morgan safely. It took a little more than 10h CTC. I have never
seen as many ferocious mosquitos as there were around Davis Lake.
Even the full strength DEET did not help much to prevent blood loss.
I can't imagine how some of the campers there survived.
The main objective of this trip, however, was to dayhike Mt. Florence
on Saturday. Since I will not be able to make it to this year's
Sierra Challenge, I decided to give it a try ahead of time. I am not
going to report any details on this hike except that it was looooong
(15:20h CTC) and challenging because of too much snow, high water,
and lack of acclimatization. I think that conditions should improve a
lot until early August. It will still make a killer first day of the
Challenge.
Cheers,
Michael

--- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burd" <snwbord@...>
wrote:
>
> Matthew is back from Shanghai again. Homeless, he wandered to the
> east side to meet up with me for a few days of scrambling. I was in
> Mammoth Lake with the family for a week and had arranged a few days
> out with Matthew.
>
> Monday we headed out to Devils Postpile to tackle a few of the
easier
> Minarets. We'd hoped to do five, but ended up doing 4 (Riegelhuth,
> Pridham, Starr, Kehrlein). The middle two were easy, but the first
> and last were old school class 4 which means we either used a rope
> (Riegelhuth) or probably should have (Kehrlein). We had two steep,
> snow-filled chutes to climb that were spicy in their own right. One
> was on the way up to the saddle between the first two from Minaret
> Lake, and the other was to the main Minaret crest from Deadhorse
> Lake. The latter even had an old rappel sling at the top which
> suggests that chute is harder without snow than with. After
Kehrlein
> we descended South Notch which by comparison was an easy snow
> glissade down to Cecile Lake before heading back. Matthew thought
the
> rock we climbed was crappy and loose, while I thought it was fairly
> decent, which only shows how subjective it can be.
>
> Thursday we did an ascent of Mt. Morgan (N) via the Nevahbe Ridge.
> The route appeared in Fiddler and Moynier's first edition of the
100
> Best Climbs in the Sierra Nevada. While it was fun, it wasn't
*that*
> fun, which may explain why it was dropped from the second edition
and
> hasn't appeared in anyone else's list of great climbs. The variety
of
> rock encountered on the 5,000ft+ route is tremendous, half a dozen
> types of volcanic flows and formations, topped by a granite-strewn
> slog at the summit. None of it was more than class 3 (and we stuck
> pretty religiously to the ridge), and it could be kept to class 2
> with only slight deviations to either side. The slope is
relentless,
> which makes for a great exercise in elevation gain without too many
> miles - if that sort of thing appeals to you. :-)
>
> In between those days Matthew was out climbing Mt. Gabb (tons and
> tons of snow in the Italy Lake Basin), as well as Patricia and
> Pointless Peaks in the Rock Creek area. He's still out there on the
> East Side today and for the next few days. If you run into an
> overloaded, black Suburu Forrester in one of the trailhead
> parkinglots, be sure to leave him a friendly note.
>

#4289 From: "Bob Burd" <snwbord@...>
Date: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:21 pm
Subject: Re: Mammoth Fun
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--- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Graupe"
<mdv_graupe@...> wrote:
>
>  I am not
> going to report any details on this hike except that it was looooong
> (15:20h CTC) and challenging because of too much snow, high water,
> and lack of acclimatization. I think that conditions should improve
a
> lot until early August. It will still make a killer first day of the
> Challenge.

I'm afraid it will be quite difficult even in August. Particularly
since it is the first day and few of the Challenge participants do any
acclimatization. For anyone who will be joining us in August, take
heed - I've seen Michael dayhike Barnard via George Creek without any
acclimatization so I know he's far better at "winging it" than most.
What really worries me is that the second day is probably even harder.
After that, it gets easier. :-)

I'm currently in Las Vegas at the Circus Circus RV park. The kids are
napping while it is roasting outside (105F+, if I had to guess). We're
going to wait until it cools down before we venture outside. No
climbing on this 3-week trip, but we might get some hikes in when we
get to Colorado later in the week.

#4290 From: Robert Covay <covay@...>
Date: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:33 am
Subject: Whitney Mountaineer's Route
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I'm taking a group of four up the Mountaineer's Route of Whitney on July 29. 
I'm concerned about the Class III section near the top.  I think this is called
"the Notch."  Any hints on how to tackle this?  Any recent experience with the
trail conditions- especially ice and snow?

   Thanks,
   Robert



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#4291 From: "Kris" <kris_j_99@...>
Date: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:03 am
Subject: Re: Whitney Mountaineer's Route
Kris_J_99
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Robert,
It's a good thing you're concerned about it - quite a few people died
there. Here's a recent trip report and discussion about it:
http://www.summitpost.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=20779
My best advice would be to turn around if things look sketchy. Other
than that there are many ways to tackle it depending on the
conditions, your experience and the skill level. It's a relatively
short but steep and exposed section. I always did it with snow on the
route and once when it was all melted. Right now you'll most likely
have snow / ice, and I don't know if there's an easy way to bypass it
by staying on the rock.
Traversing the slope instead of going up above the Notch is suppose to
be an easier option, one that never appealed to me. It just looked
steep and exposed and I always prefered to go straight up.
If you decide to do the traverse, the important thing is not to go
below the Notch on the way down - I actually saw a couple of guys who
did it.
Have a fun and safe climb!

--- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, Robert Covay <covay@...> wrote:
>
> I'm taking a group of four up the Mountaineer's Route of Whitney on
July 29.  I'm concerned about the Class III section near the top.  I
think this is called "the Notch."  Any hints on how to tackle this?
Any recent experience with the trail conditions- especially ice and snow?
>
>   Thanks,
>   Robert
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#4292 From: Mike Bredbenner <wetsponge007@...>
Date: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Sierra Scrambles] Whitney Mountaineer's Route
wetsponge007
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Hi Robert,
   I have yet to do the Mountaineer's Route, but I do know the conditions as of
yesterday thanks to a guide at Sierra Mountaineering Incorporated. The guide
,Kurt Wedberg, told me that over the past week he has seen a noticable
difference in the snow in the chute. The snow is melting and he thinks it will
most likely be gone by mid August. If you can let me know how your trip goes. I
am going to try it late August or early September. Have a safe trip and good
luck!
   Kind regards,
   Mike Bredbenner

Robert Covay <covay@...> wrote:
           I'm taking a group of four up the Mountaineer's Route of Whitney on
July 29. I'm concerned about the Class III section near the top. I think this is
called "the Notch." Any hints on how to tackle this? Any recent experience with
the trail conditions- especially ice and snow?

Thanks,
Robert


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#4293 From: "Scott" <ocmousepad@...>
Date: Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: Mammoth Fun
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Michael,
I read an article yesterday that a Chico, California entomologist has
created a DEET-free transthermal patch (b1biteshield.com)to fight off
mosquitoes.  Similar idea to the nicotine patches to quit smoking.
This patch has B1 or thiamine concentrate.  Put on the patch 2 hours
before going outside and it lasts 36 hours. See if it catches on.

Sorry to hear you are not going to make it to SC2006.  Don't see Ric
Graham or Evan Rasmussen's name either.

I am going to miss the first couple of days at SC this year where Bob
separates the men and women from the boys (I am in the boy group),
find a shorter day hike and hopefully enjoy a late afternoon BBQ back
in town.

Scott

btw, your Florence hike sounds herculean!


On Sunday I hiked from Rock Creek via Hilton Lakes up Mt.
> Stanford and continued on to Mt. Morgan along the ridge. The views
> were spectacular and I would have enjoyed it a lot more if those
> thunderclouds would not have chased me along to make it over the
top
> of Morgan safely. It took a little more than 10h CTC. I have never
> seen as many ferocious mosquitos as there were around Davis Lake.
> Even the full strength DEET did not help much to prevent blood
loss.
> I can't imagine how some of the campers there survived.
> The main objective of this trip, however, was to dayhike Mt.
Florence
> on Saturday. Since I will not be able to make it to this year's
> Sierra Challenge, I decided to give it a try ahead of time. I am
not
> going to report any details on this hike except that it was
looooong
> (15:20h CTC) and challenging because of too much snow, high water,
> and lack of acclimatization. I think that conditions should improve
a
> lot until early August. It will still make a killer first day of
the
> Challenge.
> Cheers,
> Michael

#4294 From: "Ellen Clary" <ellen@...>
Date: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:35 pm
Subject: RE: [Sierra Scrambles] Digest Number 927
ellenclary
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I have a question about the Whitney MR for those who have done it and Lassen
Peak.

I was climbing the short class 3 section of the Lassen Peak summit block (going
the harder direction around to the right) and I was wondering how this compared
to the MR?  Albeit the MR is longer, but is the difficulty the same or harder?

There's still a fair bit of snow at the base of Lassen Peak.  The trail is
mostly snow covered the first 3/4 of a mile.  Though a lot of people were
climbing it in running shoes and having difficulty on the snow patches.

Ellen Clary
ellen@...
Alameda, CA

#4295 From: "daddu_kaka" <daddu_kaka@...>
Date: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:44 pm
Subject: Lake Ediza; Army pass
daddu_kaka
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Hi,
   Has anyone been to Mt. Ritter via Lake Ediza, S-E glacier. I'll be
backpacking in that area next weekend and was wondering how the
conditions are.

Middle of next week I was also planning to backpack to cottonwood
lake. Has anyone been up New Army pass (old army pass?)and then to Mt.
Langley. If u could pls. share trail conditions.


Thanks
-Saurabh.

#4296 From: Ellen Clary <ellen@...>
Date: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:34 am
Subject: July snow at Lassen Peak
ellenclary
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I know this isn't the Sierra's (rather the southernmost Cascade
volcano), but this photo impressed me (hope attachments work.)  This is
at the Lassen Peak trailhead parking lot at 8600' from yesterday July
15, 2006.
The person in the photo is 5'3"  There is a second snowbank behind the
first one which confuses the view, but the snow pack that she's leaning
on is just under twice her height (though the snowplows helped make it
taller.)
On the peak trail, the snow only lasts about 3/4 of a mile then you're
on dirt with the occasional snow patches.
As you might guess, it's gorgeous up there.

The road through the park is open.

Ellen Clary




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#4297 From: Ellen Clary <ellen@...>
Date: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:54 am
Subject: Re: [Sierra Scrambles] July snow at Lassen Peak
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Drat - no attachments I see.
Ok, here it is now:
http://frap.org/Images/snow-lassen.jpg

#4298 From: "Shawn" <shawn@...>
Date: Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:42 am
Subject: Re: [Sierra Scrambles] July snow at Lassen Peak
sjd_prof
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That's amazing for the middle of July.....

--- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, Ellen Clary <ellen@...> wrote:
>
> Drat - no attachments I see.
> Ok, here it is now:
> http://frap.org/Images/snow-lassen.jpg
>

#4299 From: "Ron" <ronmsf2@...>
Date: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:54 pm
Subject: Re: Lake Ediza; Army pass
ronmsf2
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Am also curious about the Ritter S-E glacier as I'll be there end of July.

Saurabh... I'll be curious to hear how your trip goes and what
conditions are like.  I hope you'll post back after your trip.



--- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, "daddu_kaka" <daddu_kaka@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>   Has anyone been to Mt. Ritter via Lake Ediza, S-E glacier. I'll be
> backpacking in that area next weekend and was wondering how the
> conditions are.
>
> Middle of next week I was also planning to backpack to cottonwood
> lake. Has anyone been up New Army pass (old army pass?)and then to Mt.
> Langley. If u could pls. share trail conditions.
>
>
> Thanks
> -Saurabh.
>

#4300 From: "Ron" <ronmsf2@...>
Date: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:51 pm
Subject: Minaret Summit Overnight?
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Has anyone stayed the night at Minaret Summit as described below.  The
info looks to be a couple years old, so just wondering if anyone has
stayed there recently.  I ask because I have a Ritter/Banner trip
planned for end of July.  Last year I stayed in Mammoth Lakes and
caught the shuttle to Agnew Meadow, but this year I would like to 1)
save some money, 2) sleep at a higher elevation, and 3) get an earlier
start!


"If you're camping for the night, turn toward Minaret Vista just
before the entry fee kiosk (waypoint MINSUM) on a paved road. Take the
first left onto a dirt road and you'll find a huge gravel parking area
(waypoint MSCAMP) where you can apparently camp in or beside your car
at an elevation of about 9200 feet. This is National Forest land so
the park/monument restrictions don't apply."

http://www.climber.org/DrivingDirections/AgnewMeadow.html

#4301 From: "rob_yang2001" <yahoo@...>
Date: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:18 pm
Subject: Darwin North Face ?
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Just curious to know if anyone has been in the Lamarck Col area
recently, or seen / climbed the North Face of Mt. Darwin.  Wondering
about conditions - if it's still mostly snow, or if there is any ice
(believe it or not I'm not thinking about it in terms of an ice
climb - managed to indulge that addiction nine days ago on Mt.
Rainier's Kautz Glacier :)

-Rob

#4302 From: "John Kauke" <jbkauke@...>
Date: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:39 pm
Subject: RE: [Sierra Scrambles] Darwin North Face ?
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This past weekend I hiked from North Lake to Piute Pass and from South Lake
to Bishop Pass. All the south, east and north-facing snow fields were
definitely still just snow, no ice. Can't say about Mt. Darwin, which is
between my two hikes.



-John



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Subject: [Sierra Scrambles] Darwin North Face ?



Just curious to know if anyone has been in the Lamarck Col area
recently, or seen / climbed the North Face of Mt. Darwin. Wondering
about conditions - if it's still mostly snow, or if there is any ice
(believe it or not I'm not thinking about it in terms of an ice
climb - managed to indulge that addiction nine days ago on Mt.
Rainier's Kautz Glacier :)

-Rob





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#4303 From: "Matthew Holliman" <matthew_holliman@...>
Date: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:45 pm
Subject: Norman Clyde Peak
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Rick, Glenn, and I were up on Norman Clyde on Sat.  Has anyone
climbed Eagle Face?  Secor rates it only II 5.4, but looking at it
from the base of the NNE Ridge, although we weren't completely sure
where the route goes (the route diagram on SP seems to be incorrect--
based on the Secor/Roper descriptions, the route has to be much
further left than the SP picture shows), it seemed like it could
involve several hundred feet of roped climbing--it was certainly more
than I was expecting from a grade II.  We'd hauled ropes and gear
(ugh!) all the way up there in anticipation of climbing Eagle Face,
but decided with three of us on the rope, we'd end up being too
slow.  So we decided to forgo the potential epic in favour of the
easier option of the NNE Ridge (a very spicy and interesting scramble
in its own right).  Looking down at Eagle Face from near the summit
didn't do much to change our opinion.  That face looks steep!

Also, has anyone done the traverse to Middle Pal?  Secor doesn't have
much to say about this, other than it's 5.6 with rappel(s), in both
directions.  There are some fairly serious notches along the ridge.
Would a short (35m) rope suffice?  How much of the ridge is 5th
class?  It looks pretty impressive (and frankly quite intimidating)
from both peaks.

#4304 From: tm4170399@...
Date: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:32 pm
Subject: Williamson/Tyndal dayhike
flyguy6365
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Saw this on Summitpost...both Williamson and Tyndal on a dayhike.  Yikes!
http://www.summitpost.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21033&sid=7d3ed50e0b268a41573
ed82eeae520fc


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#4305 From: "Christopher Randall" <randall.cj@...>
Date: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:02 pm
Subject: Mount Langley August 10/11
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Hi all, I'm planning on going up to Langley on August 10th/11th,
camping at Cottonwood Lakes on the evening at the 10th, and probably
going up over Old Army Pass.

I know most (if not all) folks who frequent this Yahoo! Group who plan
to be in the Sierra on these days will be joining Bob in the Sierra
Challenge, but these two days are my acclimitization days for the SC
Saturday climb on Tunnabora, and I was looking to see if anybody else
wanted to join me.

I'll be moving a little slowly as I acclimate to the higher elevations,
but should be up to full speed on Friday for the climb up Old Army
Pass, if you want to day hike in and join me then.

See you all soon!
Chris

#4306 From: "Carol" <rangertarol@...>
Date: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: Mount Langley August 10/11
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I wish I could, it's a great hike, I did it last year!  Have fun...

--- In sierrascrambles@yahoogroups.com, "Christopher Randall"
<randall.cj@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all, I'm planning on going up to Langley on August 10th/11th,
> camping at Cottonwood Lakes on the evening at the 10th, and
probably
> going up over Old Army Pass.
>
> I know most (if not all) folks who frequent this Yahoo! Group who
plan
> to be in the Sierra on these days will be joining Bob in the
Sierra
> Challenge, but these two days are my acclimitization days for the
SC
> Saturday climb on Tunnabora, and I was looking to see if anybody
else
> wanted to join me.
>
> I'll be moving a little slowly as I acclimate to the higher
elevations,
> but should be up to full speed on Friday for the climb up Old Army
> Pass, if you want to day hike in and join me then.
>
> See you all soon!
> Chris
>

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