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#74818 From: "Jack's Golf" <jacksgolf@...>
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:02 pm
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Single bend shaft jacksgolf@...
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Tom Wishon is showing a single bend shaft on page 59 of his 2009 catalog, #605-PT-SB. Hope that helps.

Cheers,

Jack

Jack’s Custom Golf

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Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:42 AM
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Subject: ShopTalk: Single bend shaft

I have a guy looking for right-handed single bend putter shaft to replace the broken one in an old Callaway putter. The shaft is pretty much the same one in my old Ping Z-blade. Ping made Z-blades with three differently bent shafts. One with just a slight bend, one with a really big bow and one in between. That's the one he's looking for. The shafts in Pings were secured in an angled hole by smashing a bearing into it. I'm not sure about the Callaway - haven't seen the head yet. There's no hosel.

I did a quick search for a single bend shaft but didn't find one. Hope one of y'all have an idea.

Thanks

TFlan

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Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:49 pm
Subject: shoptalk-digest V1 #5979 owner-shoptalk-digest@...
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shoptalk-digest      Tuesday, December 15 2009      Volume 01 : Number 5979




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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:03:05 -0500
From: jhm@...
Subject: ShopTalk: New Alpha C830.4 Series

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Nice looking new line, driver/fw/hybrid/iron from Alpha for 2010.
Pictures here:

http://www.clubmaker-online.com/products/alpha.c830.4.html

I don't have the specs yet, coming soon.


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<div>Nice looking new line, driver/fw/hybrid/iron from Alpha for 2010.
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:18:40 -0500
From: jhm@...
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: New Alpha C830.4 Series

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These models/lofts are in stock. Let me know if interested.
John

1. c830.4 LXi : LH 10.5D, RH 10.5D
2. c830.4 LX : LH 10.5D, RH 9D, 10.5D, 12D
3. C830.4LXi hybrid: #3
4. C830.4 LX hybrid: #3, #4
5. C830.4 LXi, iron : #5
6. C830.4 LX iron: #3 to #pw, #sw

>Nice looking new line, driver/fw/hybrid/iron from Alpha for 2010.
>Pictures here:
>
>http://www.clubmaker-online.com/products/alpha.c830.4.html
>
>I don't have the specs yet, coming soon.
>
>
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>Thanks!
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<div>These models/lofts are in stock. Let me know if interested.</div>
<div>John</div>
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<div>1. c830.4 LXi : LH 10.5D, RH 10.5D<br>
2. c830.4 LX : LH 10.5D, RH 9D, 10.5D, 12D<br>
3. C830.4LXi hybrid: #3<br>
4. C830.4 LX hybrid: #3, #4<br>
5. C830.4 LXi, iron : #5</div>
<div>6. C830.4 LX iron: #3 to #pw, #sw</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Nice looking new line,
driver/fw/hybrid/iron from Alpha for 2010. Pictures here:</blockquote>
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color="#000000"><u><br></u></font></blockquote>
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></blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>I don't have the specs yet, coming
soon.</blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Thanks!<br>
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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:24:17 -0500
From: jhm@...
Subject: ShopTalk: Tony Lema

I received this today from a young woman looking for help, anyone
know anything about these irons?
John


Hi, My name is Jill. I was emailing you regarding some clubs I have
inherited from my Grandpa. I can't find much research on them and was
wondering if you would know anything to help me out.  I have almost a
complete set from a guy named Tony Lema. I tried to look him up and
only found a little info on him. Is this something that could be of
value to me? I have clubs 1,2,3,4,6,8,9 and a dual wedge.

If you could tell me anything, I would appreciate it!

Thanks,

Jill

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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 08:40:21 -0600
From: "Dorothy and John Kotalik" <jdkotalik@...>
Subject: ShopTalk: Re: 1930 Putter

I have this hickory shaft about 1930 vintage with the
following sole inscription. Model Excellence 1000
Golf Design USA. It has a steel washer in the middle
of the sole. It has the physicist name JTATE inscribed.
Anyone that dealt in antique putters would know anything
about this putter and is it rare?
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Subject: ShopTalk: Tony Lema


>
>
> I received this today from a young woman looking for help, anyone
> know anything about these irons?
> John
>
>
> Hi, My name is Jill. I was emailing you regarding some clubs I have
> inherited from my Grandpa. I can't find much research on them and was
> wondering if you would know anything to help me out.  I have almost a
> complete set from a guy named Tony Lema. I tried to look him up and
> only found a little info on him. Is this something that could be of
> value to me? I have clubs 1,2,3,4,6,8,9 and a dual wedge.
>
> If you could tell me anything, I would appreciate it!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jill
>
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>
>
>
>
> Thanks!
> John Muir
>
> skype: jhmuir
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Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:52:22 -0500
From: Dave Tutelman <dtutelman@...>
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tony Lema

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I'm guessing these are the square-toe irons. A quick Internet search
turned up a couple of related finds:

* Another almost-complete set (2-8 plus PW, also a couple of fairway
woods) listed on eBay for $99. No bids yet.

* A complete set (2-dualWedge) listed on an antique club site
(<http://www.clubsofdistinction.com/>http://www.clubsofdistinction.com/)
for $650.

I'm no expert, so I would not venture a guess myself. Just noting a
couple of data points.

Hope this helps,
DaveT

At 09:24 AM 12/6/2009, jhm@... wrote:
>I received this today from a young woman looking for help, anyone
>know anything about these irons?
>John
>
>Hi, My name is Jill. I was emailing you regarding some clubs I have
>inherited from my Grandpa. I can't find much research on them and
>was wondering if you would know anything to help me out.  I have
>almost a complete set from a guy named Tony Lema. I tried to look
>him up and only found a little info on him. Is this something that
>could be of value to me? I have clubs 1,2,3,4,6,8,9 and a dual wedge.
>
>If you could tell me anything, I would appreciate it!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jill
>
>--
>
>Thanks!
>John Muir

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I'm guessing these are the square-toe irons. A quick Internet search
turned up a couple of related finds:<br><br>
* Another almost-complete set (2-8 plus PW, also a couple of fairway
woods) listed on eBay for $99. No bids yet.<br><br>
* A complete set (2-dualWedge) listed on an antique club site
(<a href="http://www.clubsofdistinction.com/">
http://www.clubsofdistinction.com/</a>) for $650.<br><br>
I'm no expert, so I would not venture a guess myself. Just noting a
couple of data points.<br><br>
Hope this helps,<br>
DaveT<br><br>
At 09:24 AM 12/6/2009, jhm@... wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">I received this today from a
young woman looking for help, anyone know anything about these
irons?<br>
John<br><br>
Hi, My name is Jill. I was emailing you regarding some clubs I have
inherited from my Grandpa. I can't find much research on them and was
wondering if you would know anything to help me out.&nbsp; I have almost
a complete set from a guy named Tony Lema. I tried to look him up and
only found a little info on him. Is this something that could be of value
to me? I have clubs 1,2,3,4,6,8,9 and a dual wedge.<br><br>
If you could tell me anything, I would appreciate it!<br><br>
Thanks,<br><br>
Jill<br><br>
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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:25:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Bob Barrette <golfbum70@...>
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tony Lema

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Hi John:

These were made by Fernquist & Johnson had a square toe and were stamped,To=
ny Lema. These were made in the late sixties if I remember correctly.I play=
ed them for quite a few years.

Regards,
Bob

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Subject: ShopTalk: Tony Lema
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If you could tell me anything, I would appreciate it!

Thanks,

Jill

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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 11:47:10 -0500
From: jhm@...
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Thanks Dave (and Bob B). I'll pass this information along to young Jill.
John

>I'm guessing these are the square-toe irons. A quick Internet search
>turned up a couple of related finds:
>
>* Another almost-complete set (2-8 plus PW, also a couple of fairway
>woods) listed on eBay for $99. No bids yet.
>
>* A complete set (2-dualWedge) listed on an antique club site
>(<http://www.clubsofdistinction.com/>
>http://www.clubsofdistinction.com/) for $650.
>
>I'm no expert, so I would not venture a guess myself. Just noting a
>couple of data points.
>
>Hope this helps,
>DaveT
>
>At 09:24 AM 12/6/2009, jhm@... wrote:
>
>>I received this today from a young woman looking for help, anyone
>>know anything about these irons?
>>John
>>
>>Hi, My name is Jill. I was emailing you regarding some clubs I have
>>inherited from my Grandpa. I can't find much research on them and
>>was wondering if you would know anything to help me out.  I have
>>almost a complete set from a guy named Tony Lema. I tried to look
>>him up and only found a little info on him. Is this something that
>>could be of value to me? I have clubs 1,2,3,4,6,8,9 and a dual
>>wedge.
>>
>>If you could tell me anything, I would appreciate it!
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Jill
>>
>>--
>>
>>Thanks!
>>John Muir


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<div>Thanks Dave (and Bob B). I'll pass this information along to
young Jill.</div>
<div>John</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>I'm guessing these are the square-toe
irons. A quick Internet search turned up a couple of related
finds:<br>
<br>
* Another almost-complete set (2-8 plus PW, also a couple of fairway
woods) listed on eBay for $99. No bids yet.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>* A complete set (2-dualWedge) listed on
an antique club site (<a href="http://www.clubsofdistinction.com/">
http://www.clubsofdistinction.com/</a>) for $650.<br>
<br>
I'm no expert, so I would not venture a guess myself. Just noting a
couple of data points.<br>
<br>
Hope this helps,<br>
DaveT<br>
<br>
At 09:24 AM 12/6/2009, jhm@... wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>I received this today from a young woman
looking for help, anyone know anything about these irons?<br>
John<br>
<br>
Hi, My name is Jill. I was emailing you regarding some clubs I have
inherited from my Grandpa. I can't find much research on them and was
wondering if you would know anything to help me out.&nbsp; I have
almost a complete set from a guy named Tony Lema. I tried to look him
up and only found a little info on him. Is this something that could
be of value to me? I have clubs 1,2,3,4,6,8,9 and a dual wedge.<br>
<br>
If you could tell me anything, I would appreciate it!<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Jill<br>
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:53:24 -0500
From: jhm@...
Subject: ShopTalk: New Aldila En Fuego Series

New Aldila goodies.

New Shafts:
http://www.clubmaker-online.com/products/aldila.enfuego.html

New Pricing, free shipping on Voodoo woods. Also new Voodoo hybrid:
http://www.clubmaker-online.com/products/aldila.voodoo.html

Nice launch/spin comparison chart with all Aldila shafts:
http://www.clubmaker-online.com/products/aldila.launch.html
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:05:44 -0500
From: jhm@...
Subject: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan

Tflan:
I had a guy send me a note today asking how to make his own ribbed
grips. I searched to archives for your (?) post on this and couldn't
find. Can you resend or did anyone save? I seem to recall a piece of
wire secured by tape but not sure.
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:22:03 -0500
From: Tim Hewitt <tim@...>
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan

Though you can use wire, you need to be very careful about the
thickness of the wire. The USGA only allows a  0.040" rib height.

- -t

On Dec 11, 2009, at 12:05 PM, jhm@... wrote:

> Tflan:
> I had a guy send me a note today asking how to make his own ribbed
> grips. I searched to archives for your (?) post on this and couldn't
> find. Can you resend or did anyone save? I seem to recall a piece of
> wire secured by tape but not sure.

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:06:18 -0600
From: "Dorothy and John Kotalik" <jdkotalik@...>
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan

Tim I need advice on estimation of value of putters
manufactured by golf designs USA in 1930 or close. I have
one that is in super condition hickory shaft brass head.
I would appreciate any one that can give me some help.
I have located the son of this phycist that had this special
putter built. I would consider it rare putter. JOHN K
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Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan


> Though you can use wire, you need to be very careful about the
> thickness of the wire. The USGA only allows a  0.040" rib height.
>
> -t
>
> On Dec 11, 2009, at 12:05 PM, jhm@... wrote:
>
>> Tflan:
>> I had a guy send me a note today asking how to make his own ribbed
>> grips. I searched to archives for your (?) post on this and couldn't
>> find. Can you resend or did anyone save? I seem to recall a piece of
>> wire secured by tape but not sure.
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:22:05 +0000
From: BILL DAY <billday@...>
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan

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Use string=2C and secure it with tape before adding the grip.  A ball of st=
ring (or twine) costs very little and can be used for lots of grips.

=20

Bill
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:09:18 -0700
From: Tom Flanagan <tflanster@...>
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan

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Years ago=2C I thought if I took a length of string or some kind of cord or=
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  it I'd get a nice "reminder" grip. After experimenting with it for a while=
  I found that if I laid the cord on a piece of double stick tape=2C then pu=
t the tape/string on the shaft - the tape holding the string/cord from slip=
ping=2C I could slide a rubber grip on easily.=20

I didn't pay much attention to "the rules". What the hell=2C I'm not playin=
g in tournaments sanctioned by USGA at the time. This was just an experimen=
t to use round grips for reminders. It works o.k.=20

TFlan

> Date: Fri=2C 11 Dec 2009 12:05:44 -0500
> To: ShopTalk@...
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> Subject: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan
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  I found that if I laid the cord on a piece of double stick tape=2C then pu=
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ping=2C I could slide a rubber grip on easily. <br><br>I didn't pay much at=
tention to "the rules". What the hell=2C I'm not playing in tournaments san=
ctioned by USGA at the time. This was just an experiment to use round grips=
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:56:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Don M <don@...>
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan

Weed trimmer string might be a better modern item for it.

- -Don M

- --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Tim Hewitt <tim@...> wrote:

> From: Tim Hewitt <tim@...>
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan
> To: ShopTalk@...
> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 11:22 AM
> Though you can use wire, you need to
> be very careful about the thickness of the wire. The USGA
> only allows a=A0 0.040" rib height.
>=20
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> > I had a guy send me a note today asking how to make
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:21:42 -0500
From: mykeygolf@...
Subject: ShopTalk: Lynx Black Cat Tour MC 7 Iron Head

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Hey guys,
  Does anyone have this head? I am in desperate need one to complete a set.=
  Golfsmith has discontinued this line and do not have one in any of their=
  resources. Thanks in advance.
Mike "myKey" Phelan
1-386-846-4653
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<div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: small;">&nbsp;Do=
es anyone have this head? I am in desperate need one to complete a set. Go=
lfsmith has discontinued this line and do not have one in any of their res=
ources. Thanks in advance.</span></div>

<div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: small;">Mike "my=
Key" Phelan</span></div>

<div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: small;">1-386-84=
6-4653</span></div>

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f@...</span></div>

<div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: small;"><br>
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:25:48 EST
From: vectorgolf1@...
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Lynx Black Cat Tour MC 7 Iron Head

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Hi Mykey,
Long time no talk.
If all else fails you might try this guy;
_http://www.ironfinder.com/_ (http://www.ironfinder.com/)
The 99 Parallax was very similar if you can't find a Black Kitty.
David


In a message dated 12/14/2009 8:09:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
mykeygolf@... writes:

Hey guys,
Does anyone  have this head? I am in desperate need one to complete a set.
Golfsmith has  discontinued this line and do not have one in any of their
resources. Thanks  in advance.
Mike "myKey"  Phelan
1-386-846-4653
mykeygolf@...


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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:01:14 -0600
From: "Dorothy and John Kotalik" <jdkotalik@...>
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Lynx Black Cat Tour MC 7 Iron Head

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components of this model. JOHN K
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   Hey guys,=20
    Does anyone have this head? I am in desperate need one to complete a =
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   Mike "myKey" Phelan
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:41:39 -0700
From: Tom Flanagan <tflanster@...>
Subject: ShopTalk: Single bend shaft

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I have a guy looking for right-handed  single bend putter shaft to replace =
the broken one in an old Callaway putter. The shaft is pretty much the same=
  one in my old Ping Z-blade. Ping made Z-blades with three differently bent=
  shafts. One with just a slight bend=2C one with a really big bow and one i=
n between. That's the one he's looking for. The shafts in Pings were secure=
d in an angled hole by smashing a bearing into it. I'm not sure about the C=
allaway - haven't seen the head yet. There's no hosel.=20
I did a quick search for a single bend shaft but didn't find one. Hope one =
of y'all have an idea.=20
Thanks
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#74816 From: Tom Flanagan <tflanster@...>
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:01 pm
Subject: ShopTalk: re; single bend shaft tflanster@...
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I should have mentioned that the single bend shafts I found at various sites aren't like the Ping/Callaway. Those are trimmed somehow, or the hole is drilled in the head in a way, that makes the shaft angle out over and towards the center of the head. No doubt its the drilled hole in the head that makes this work. I don't have a bending fixture any more or I'd just make a shaft for the guy. But, this is the extent of my efforts.

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#74815 From: Tom Flanagan <tflanster@...>
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:41 pm
Subject: ShopTalk: Single bend shaft tflanster@...
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I did a quick search for a single bend shaft but didn't find one. Hope one of y'all have an idea.

Thanks

TFlan

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#74814 From: "Dorothy and John Kotalik" <jdkotalik@...>
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:01 pm
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Lynx Black Cat Tour MC 7 Iron Head jdkotalik@...
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Suggestion Wards Golf sales@... I see that they have several

components of this model. JOHN K

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Subject: ShopTalk: Lynx Black Cat Tour MC 7 Iron Head

Hey guys,
Does anyone have this head? I am in desperate need one to complete a set. Golfsmith has discontinued this line and do not have one in any of their resources. Thanks in advance.

Mike "myKey" Phelan

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#74813 From: vectorgolf1@...
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Lynx Black Cat Tour MC 7 Iron Head vectorgolf1@...
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Hi Mykey,

Long time no talk.

If all else fails you might try this guy;

http://www.ironfinder.com/

The 99 Parallax was very similar if you can't find a Black Kitty.

David

In a message dated 12/14/2009 8:09:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, mykeygolf@... writes:

Hey guys,
Does anyone have this head? I am in desperate need one to complete a set. Golfsmith has discontinued this line and do not have one in any of their resources. Thanks in advance.

Mike "myKey" Phelan

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#74812 From: mykeygolf@...
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:21 am
Subject: ShopTalk: Lynx Black Cat Tour MC 7 Iron Head mykeygolf@...
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Hey guys,

Does anyone have this head? I am in desperate need one to complete a set. Golfsmith has discontinued this line and do not have one in any of their resources. Thanks in advance.

Mike "myKey" Phelan

1-386-846-4653

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#74811 From: Don M <don@...>
Date: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:56 am
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan don@...
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Weed trimmer string might be a better modern item for it.

-Don M

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Tim Hewitt <tim@...> wrote:

> From: Tim Hewitt <tim@...>
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan
> To: ShopTalk@...
> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 11:22 AM
> Though you can use wire, you need to
> be very careful about the thickness of the wire. The USGA
> only allows a� 0.040" rib height.
>
> -t
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> On Dec 11, 2009, at 12:05 PM, jhm@...
> wrote:
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> > Tflan:
> > I had a guy send me a note today asking how to make
> his own ribbed grips. I searched to archives for your (?)
> post on this and couldn't find. Can you resend or did anyone
> save? I seem to recall a piece of wire secured by tape but
> not sure.
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#74810 From: Tom Flanagan <tflanster@...>
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:09 pm
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan tflanster@...
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Years ago, I thought if I took a length of string or some kind of cord or wire and laid it along the length of the shaft, then slipped a grip over it I'd get a nice "reminder" grip. After experimenting with it for a while I found that if I laid the cord on a piece of double stick tape, then put the tape/string on the shaft - the tape holding the string/cord from slipping, I could slide a rubber grip on easily.

I didn't pay much attention to "the rules". What the hell, I'm not playing in tournaments sanctioned by USGA at the time. This was just an experiment to use round grips for reminders. It works o.k.

TFlan

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> Tflan:
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> wire secured by tape but not sure.
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#74809 From: BILL DAY <billday@...>
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:22 pm
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan billday@...
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Use string, and secure it with tape before adding the grip. A ball of string (or twine) costs very little and can be used for lots of grips.

Bill

> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:05:44 -0500
> To: ShopTalk@...
> From: jhm@...
> Subject: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan
>
> Tflan:
> I had a guy send me a note today asking how to make his own ribbed
> grips. I searched to archives for your (?) post on this and couldn't
> find. Can you resend or did anyone save? I seem to recall a piece of
> wire secured by tape but not sure.
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#74808 From: "Dorothy and John Kotalik" <jdkotalik@...>
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan jdkotalik@...
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Tim I need advice on estimation of value of putters
manufactured by golf designs USA in 1930 or close. I have
one that is in super condition hickory shaft brass head.
I would appreciate any one that can give me some help.
I have located the son of this phycist that had this special
putter built. I would consider it rare putter. JOHN K
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Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan


> Though you can use wire, you need to be very careful about the
> thickness of the wire. The USGA only allows a  0.040" rib height.
>
> -t
>
> On Dec 11, 2009, at 12:05 PM, jhm@... wrote:
>
>> Tflan:
>> I had a guy send me a note today asking how to make his own ribbed
>> grips. I searched to archives for your (?) post on this and couldn't
>> find. Can you resend or did anyone save? I seem to recall a piece of
>> wire secured by tape but not sure.
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#74807 From: Tim Hewitt <tim@...>
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:22 pm
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan tim@...
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Though you can use wire, you need to be very careful about the
thickness of the wire. The USGA only allows a  0.040" rib height.

-t

On Dec 11, 2009, at 12:05 PM, jhm@... wrote:

> Tflan:
> I had a guy send me a note today asking how to make his own ribbed
> grips. I searched to archives for your (?) post on this and couldn't
> find. Can you resend or did anyone save? I seem to recall a piece of
> wire secured by tape but not sure.

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#74806 From: jhm@...
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:05 pm
Subject: ShopTalk: Homemade Ribbed Grips-Tflan jhm@...
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Tflan:
I had a guy send me a note today asking how to make his own ribbed
grips. I searched to archives for your (?) post on this and couldn't
find. Can you resend or did anyone save? I seem to recall a piece of
wire secured by tape but not sure.
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#74805 From: jhm@...
Date: Tue Dec 8, 2009 6:53 pm
Subject: ShopTalk: New Aldila En Fuego Series jhm@...
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New Aldila goodies.

New Shafts:
http://www.clubmaker-online.com/products/aldila.enfuego.html

New Pricing, free shipping on Voodoo woods. Also new Voodoo hybrid:
http://www.clubmaker-online.com/products/aldila.voodoo.html

Nice launch/spin comparison chart with all Aldila shafts:
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#74804 From: jhm@...
Date: Sun Dec 6, 2009 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tony Lema jhm@...
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Thanks Dave (and Bob B). I'll pass this information along to young Jill.

John

I'm guessing these are the square-toe irons. A quick Internet search turned up a couple of related finds:

* Another almost-complete set (2-8 plus PW, also a couple of fairway woods) listed on eBay for $99. No bids yet.

* A complete set (2-dualWedge) listed on an antique club site ( http://www.clubsofdistinction.com/) for $650.

I'm no expert, so I would not venture a guess myself. Just noting a couple of data points.

Hope this helps,
DaveT

At 09:24 AM 12/6/2009, jhm@... wrote:

I received this today from a young woman looking for help, anyone know anything about these irons?
John

Hi, My name is Jill. I was emailing you regarding some clubs I have inherited from my Grandpa. I can't find much research on them and was wondering if you would know anything to help me out. I have almost a complete set from a guy named Tony Lema. I tried to look him up and only found a little info on him. Is this something that could be of value to me? I have clubs 1,2,3,4,6,8,9 and a dual wedge.

If you could tell me anything, I would appreciate it!

Thanks,

Jill

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#74803 From: Bob Barrette <golfbum70@...>
Date: Sun Dec 6, 2009 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tony Lema golfbum70@...
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Hi John:

These were made by Fernquist & Johnson had a square toe and were stamped,Tony Lema. These were made in the late sixties if I remember correctly.I played them for quite a few years.

Regards,
Bob

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Subject: ShopTalk: Tony Lema
To: ShopTalk@...
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 6:24 AM

I received this today from a young woman looking for help, anyone know anything about these irons?
John

Hi, My name is Jill. I was emailing you regarding some clubs I have inherited from my Grandpa. I can't find much research on them and was wondering if you would know anything to help me out. I have almost a complete set from a guy named Tony Lema. I tried to look him up and only found a little info on him. Is this something that could be of value to me? I have clubs 1,2,3,4,6,8,9 and a dual wedge.

If you could tell me anything, I would appreciate it!

Thanks,

Jill

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#74802 From: Dave Tutelman <dtutelman@...>
Date: Sun Dec 6, 2009 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tony Lema dtutelman@...
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I'm guessing these are the square-toe irons. A quick Internet search turned up a couple of related finds:

* Another almost-complete set (2-8 plus PW, also a couple of fairway woods) listed on eBay for $99. No bids yet.

* A complete set (2-dualWedge) listed on an antique club site ( http://www.clubsofdistinction.com/) for $650.

I'm no expert, so I would not venture a guess myself. Just noting a couple of data points.

Hope this helps,
DaveT

At 09:24 AM 12/6/2009, jhm@... wrote:

I received this today from a young woman looking for help, anyone know anything about these irons?
John

Hi, My name is Jill. I was emailing you regarding some clubs I have inherited from my Grandpa. I can't find much research on them and was wondering if you would know anything to help me out. I have almost a complete set from a guy named Tony Lema. I tried to look him up and only found a little info on him. Is this something that could be of value to me? I have clubs 1,2,3,4,6,8,9 and a dual wedge.

If you could tell me anything, I would appreciate it!

Thanks,

Jill

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#74801 From: "Dorothy and John Kotalik" <jdkotalik@...>
Date: Sun Dec 6, 2009 2:40 pm
Subject: ShopTalk: Re: 1930 Putter jdkotalik@...
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I have this hickory shaft about 1930 vintage with the
following sole inscription. Model Excellence 1000
Golf Design USA. It has a steel washer in the middle
of the sole. It has the physicist name JTATE inscribed.
Anyone that dealt in antique putters would know anything
about this putter and is it rare?
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:24 AM
Subject: ShopTalk: Tony Lema


>
>
> I received this today from a young woman looking for help, anyone
> know anything about these irons?
> John
>
>
> Hi, My name is Jill. I was emailing you regarding some clubs I have
> inherited from my Grandpa. I can't find much research on them and was
> wondering if you would know anything to help me out.  I have almost a
> complete set from a guy named Tony Lema. I tried to look him up and
> only found a little info on him. Is this something that could be of
> value to me? I have clubs 1,2,3,4,6,8,9 and a dual wedge.
>
> If you could tell me anything, I would appreciate it!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jill
>
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> Thanks!
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#74800 From: jhm@...
Date: Sun Dec 6, 2009 2:24 pm
Subject: ShopTalk: Tony Lema jhm@...
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I received this today from a young woman looking for help, anyone
know anything about these irons?
John


Hi, My name is Jill. I was emailing you regarding some clubs I have
inherited from my Grandpa. I can't find much research on them and was
wondering if you would know anything to help me out.  I have almost a
complete set from a guy named Tony Lema. I tried to look him up and
only found a little info on him. Is this something that could be of
value to me? I have clubs 1,2,3,4,6,8,9 and a dual wedge.

If you could tell me anything, I would appreciate it!

Thanks,

Jill

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#74799 From: jhm@...
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 9:18 pm
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: New Alpha C830.4 Series jhm@...
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These models/lofts are in stock. Let me know if interested.

John

1. c830.4 LXi : LH 10.5D, RH 10.5D
2. c830.4 LX : LH 10.5D, RH 9D, 10.5D, 12D
3. C830.4LXi hybrid: #3
4. C830.4 LX hybrid: #3, #4
5. C830.4 LXi, iron : #5

6. C830.4 LX iron: #3 to #pw, #sw

Nice looking new line, driver/fw/hybrid/iron from Alpha for 2010. Pictures here:

http://www.clubmaker-online.com/products/alpha.c830.4.html

I don't have the specs yet, coming soon.

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#74798 From: jhm@...
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:03 pm
Subject: ShopTalk: New Alpha C830.4 Series jhm@...
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Nice looking new line, driver/fw/hybrid/iron from Alpha for 2010. Pictures here:

http://www.clubmaker-online.com/products/alpha.c830.4.html

I don't have the specs yet, coming soon.

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Hi, all!

Did anybody else just get a ShopTalk subscription notice from
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Curious. And it will be interesting to see whether I get two copies
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I haven't received a subscription notice.
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Curious. And it will be interesting to see  whether I get two copies
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:34:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Don M <don@...>
Subject: ShopTalk: Built a long driver

OK, I built a long driver last night.  I used stuff I had on hand.  A 199g
offset Dynacraft Avatar 460cc head that sits quite closed, on a UST Low Carb 52g
S flex shaft.

I put on my favorite grip, which is a bit heavy at 65g.  It weighs 322g and
swingweight is D8 at 47.75".  Obviously a 40g grip would get the weight way down
there where Bernie recommends it, albeit with a heavy head.  My intention is to
choke down to 46.5 - 47, and have a counterweight effect.

The freq is 236 cpm which is about 6.5 on the PCS scale, so that seems stout
since I fit to a 4.7 in my 44" driver.

Wish me luck!  :)

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:38:16 -0500
From: Dave Tutelman <dtutelman@...>
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Resubscribed?

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OK, let's put this out of its misery. TFlan, You're probably right. So...

I got only one copy of my message.
I assume nobody else got a resubscription notice.
An unexplained anomaly.
Let's leave well enough alone.

Cheers!
DaveT

At 01:21 PM 11/12/2009, Tom Flanagan wrote:
>Prof T;
>
>This will perhaps provide a laugh. Your question "Did anybody else .
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OK, let's put this out of its misery. TFlan, You're probably right.
So...<br><br>
I got only one copy of my message.<br>
I assume nobody else got a resubscription notice.<br>
An unexplained anomaly.<br>
Let's leave well enough alone.<br><br>
Cheers!<br>
DaveT<br><br>
At 01:21 PM 11/12/2009, Tom Flanagan wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Prof T;<br><br>
This will perhaps provide a laugh. Your question &quot;Did anybody else .
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TFlan<br><br>
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:03:05 -0500
From: jhm@...
Subject: ShopTalk: TaylorMade wins wedge appeal with USGA

Saw this in Golfweek.
John


The U.S. Golf Association has reversed its original decision and will
allow TaylorMade to sell interchangeable U-groove faces for its TP
xFT wedges in 2010.

The new xFT wedges with interchangeable faces will start appearing in
golf shops in December. The faces can be changed with a torque wrench
that quickly loosens and tightens two screws on the back of the
wedges. The interchangeable faces are flat in the front and look like
normal wedge faces.

After the USGA informed TaylorMade in October that xFT faces with
large U grooves could not be sold in 2010 - although sale of
smaller-groove faces was permitted - the company filed a formal
appeal.

Beginning Jan. 1, 2011, all irons and wedges with large U grooves no
longer can be made or distributed by golf club manufacturers.
However, the big grooves will be widely available in 2010.

TaylorMade based its case on this 2010 availability, arguing that
interchangeable wedge faces should be subject to the same deadlines
as regular wedges.
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:12:29 -0500
From: jhm@...
Subject: ShopTalk: Itomic Grips

New Itomic grips here http://clubmaker-online.com/itomic.html .
Introductory priced at $3.48 each. Available in black, white, blue,
or red. I'm starting out with the black model unless enough interest
in the colors. Super soft (but firm) feel and very tacky and long
lasting.
Very similar to a colorful grip line that is priced at $16 each.
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:10:32 -0500
From: jhm@...
Subject: ShopTalk: Alpha V5 Fairway and hybrid

Nice fairway woods and hybrids from Alpha. I play the 19 hybrid and
even though a fairly deep face design, don't have any trouble hitting
it from most lies. Nice off the tee if you need something about 200
and straight. I've read some very good feedback on the fairway woods
at different discussion groups I sponsor, too.

http://www.clubmaker-online.com/products/alpha.v5.fairway.html

http://www.clubmaker-online.com/products/alpha.v5.hybrid.html
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:09:21 -1000
From: Keith Anderson <DMURPH3@...>
Subject: ShopTalk: Exotics driver pull

Aloha all! I am looking for a Driver length Tour Exotics  YS 5.1 "A"
flex pull out. I could settle for a Graphite Design YS 5 in "RR" flex
or the Cobra logo YS 5.1 in "A" flex if  you have one. Thanks, Keith
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:53:13 -0500
From: "Harry F. Schiestel" <hfs@...>
Subject: ShopTalk: Meets 2010 Groove Rule - Yes/No/ATR

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USGA 2010 Conforming Irons and Wedges Database -
http://www.usga.org/InfoClubsDB/index.asp

It looks like my MX-23 conform and so do the MP-30 irons my son plays.  My other
son has KZG CB and
they do not conform.  Not that anyone of us is playing professional matches. 
Just nice to know if a
set conforms or not.



Now our Vokey wedges do not meet the 2010 groove rule, although the heads are
about 5 years old (pre
SM).

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:05:13 -0700
From: Tom Wishon <TWW@...>
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Meets 2010 Groove Rule - Yes/No/ATR

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Harry and Everyone:
Now that the USGA has their web reference up to note conformity to the new =
scoreline rule, there is bound to be some confusion.  Everyone needs to kee=
p in mind the fact that all EXISTING models of heads of 25* and higher loft=
  do not have to conform to the new scoreline rule until Jan 1, 2011.  Most =
of us have been starting the changeover of our existing models now so that =
we can have enough time to get them through what is a VERY difficult confor=
mity process thanks to the incredibly small +/- tolerances for the new scor=
eline configuration.  As a result, many, and I mean many, of the companies'=
  models are getting an initial non conformity ruling from which they all ha=
ve to then keep working with their foundries to get sets to the USGA which =
finally do make it through this incredibly tight inspection process.  By in=
credibly tight tolerance, I mean that the top edge radius of just any two o=
f the lines on any two heads in a set can be off by 0.001" and the whole se=
t does not pass.

Previous to this new scoreline rule, the USGA only checked 3 heads from a f=
ull set of irons, now they are checking every line on every head in a set w=
ith scoreline tolerances which are much smaller than ever before.  So many =
companies have had to remake sample numerous times before they get them app=
roved.  At the same time, this also means if it is that hard to make ONE se=
t correctly, what do you think the odds are that every head of all the many=
  production heads are going to be within the rules?  Not much, I can assure=
  you because the USGA really created a real nightmare for the club companie=
s with this new rule.

TOM

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From: owner-shoptalk@... [mailto:owner-shoptalk@...] On=
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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:53 PM
To: ShopTalk@...
Subject: ShopTalk: Meets 2010 Groove Rule - Yes/No/ATR

USGA 2010 Conforming Irons and Wedges Database - http://www.usga.org/InfoCl=
ubsDB/index.asp
It looks like my MX-23 conform and so do the MP-30 irons my son plays.  My =
other son has KZG CB and they do not conform.  Not that anyone of us is pla=
ying professional matches.  Just nice to know if a set conforms or not.

Now our Vokey wedges do not meet the 2010 groove rule, although the heads a=
re about 5 years old (pre SM).
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Harry and Everyone:</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Now that the USGA has their web refere=
nce
up to note conformity to the new scoreline rule, there is bound to be some
confusion.&nbsp; Everyone needs to keep in mind the fact that all EXISTING
models of heads of 25* and higher loft do not have to conform to the new sc=
oreline
rule until </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
   style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>J</span></font><f=
ont
  size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:Arial;
  color:navy'>an 1, 2011</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DAri=
al><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>.&nbsp; Most of us =
have
been starting the changeover of our existing models now so that we can have
enough time to get them through what is a VERY difficult conformity process
thanks to the incredibly small +/- tolerances for the new scoreline
configuration.&nbsp; As a result, many, and I mean many, of the companies&#=
8217;
models are getting an initial non conformity ruling from which they all hav=
e to
then keep working with their foundries to get sets to the USGA which finall=
y do
make it through this incredibly tight inspection process.&nbsp; By incredib=
ly
tight tolerance, I mean that the top edge radius of just any two of the lin=
es
on any two heads in a set can be off by 0.001&#8221; and the whole set does=
  not
pass.&nbsp; </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Previous to this new scoreline rule, t=
he
USGA only checked 3 heads from a full set of irons, now they are checking e=
very
line on every head in a set with scoreline tolerance</span></font><font siz=
e=3D2
  color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Aria=
l;
  color:navy'>s w</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><spa=
n
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>hich are much small=
er
than ever before.&nbsp; So many companies have had to remake sample numerou=
s
times before they get them approved.&nbsp; At the same time, this also mean=
s if
it is that hard to make </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DAr=
ial><span
  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>ONE</span></font><=
font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial;
color:navy'> set correctly, what do you think the odds are that every head =
of
all the many production heads are going to be within the rules?&nbsp; Not m=
uch,
I can assure you because the USGA really created a real nightmare for the c=
lub
companie</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>s w</span></font><=
font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial;
color:navy'>ith this new rule.&nbsp; </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
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face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=
&nbsp; </span></font></p>

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=3D'font-size:
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a><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br=
>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-shoptalk@...=
en.com
[mailto:owner-shoptalk@...] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>O=
n
Behalf Of </span></b>Harry F. Schiestel<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 24, =
2009
6:53 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ShopTalk@...<b=
r>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> ShopTalk: Meets 201=
0
Groove Rule - Yes/No/ATR</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Time=
s New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-=
left:
.5in'><b><font size=3D5 color=3Dmaroon face=3DVerdana><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:16.0pt;
font-family:Verdana;color:maroon;font-weight:bold'>USGA 2010 Conforming Iro=
ns
and Wedges Database</span></font></b><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DVe=
rdana><span
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> - </span></font>=
<font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DVerdana><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Verdana;
color:black'><a href=3D"http://www.usga.org/InfoClubsDB/index.asp" target=
=3D"_blank"
title=3D"blocked::http://www.usga.org/InfoClubsDB/index.asp">http://www.usg=
a.org/InfoClubsDB/index.asp</a></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D3 color=3Db=
lack
face=3DVerdana><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:bl=
ack;
font-weight:bold'>It looks like my MX-23 conform and so do the MP-30 irons =
my
son plays.&nbsp; My other son has KZG CB and they do not conform.&nbsp; Not
that anyone of us is playing professional matches.&nbsp; Just nice to know =
if a
set conforms or not.</span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D3 color=3Db=
lack
face=3DVerdana><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:bl=
ack;
font-weight:bold'>&nbsp;</span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D3 color=3Db=
lack
face=3DVerdana><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:bl=
ack;
font-weight:bold'>Now our Vokey wedges do not meet the 2010 groove rule,
although the heads are about 5 years old (pre SM).</span></font></b></p>

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I received this exciting news today from Shoptalker Roy Nix.  The
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on separate disks for easy selection to watch. We have a DVD for the
Demo Day on Wednesday as well as DVDs for each presentation for all 3
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#74796 From: jhm@...
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:34 pm
Subject: ShopTalk: Tom Wishon at AGCP Roundtable jhm@...
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I received this exciting news today from Shoptalker Roy Nix. The AGCP is announcing Tom Wishon as featured speaker for the 2010 AGCP Roundtable!

John

shoptalk

AGCP

Special Offer for AGCP Members and Special Friends

Greetings!

The DVDs from the AGCP's 4 Annual Roundtable, RT-4, are being produced and will be ready for shipping any day now.

Unlike in years past our plans for RT-4 is for all Presentations to be on separate disks for easy selection to watch. We have a DVD for the Demo Day on Wednesday as well as DVDs for each presentation for all 3 days at the Convention Center. This year the price is very good for advanced copies.

Place you order now and take advantage of our Limited Time Offer!
Advanced Payment $249 - Order Now!
Save $100 until December 31, 2009 2010.

AGCP RT-4 Advanced DVD Sale Special!

SAVE $100 until December 31, 2009

Roundtable DVDs are now on sale at reduced rates for a limited time only.

No serious clubmaker should be without these DVDs! 3 days of instruction from some of the best in the World.

The Schedule for RT-5 is set and on the AGCP web site. Look over the schedule and register now to insure getting in and getting a good room at the Marriott across the street from the historic Columbus Iron Works Convention Center.

Featuring - Tom Wishon of Tom Wishon Golf Technologies.

With Special Guest Speaker:

Eric Hogge, Director of Clubfitting & Head Professional of the PGA Center for Golf Learning and Performance will Speak about Swing Mechanics used in Fitting

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#74795 From: Tom Wishon <TWW@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:05 pm
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Meets 2010 Groove Rule - Yes/No/ATR TWW@...
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Harry and Everyone:

Now that the USGA has their web reference up to note conformity to the new scoreline rule, there is bound to be some confusion. Everyone needs to keep in mind the fact that all EXISTING models of heads of 25* and higher loft do not have to conform to the new scoreline rule until Jan 1, 2011. Most of us have been starting the changeover of our existing models now so that we can have enough time to get them through what is a VERY difficult conformity process thanks to the incredibly small +/- tolerances for the new scoreline configuration. As a result, many, and I mean many, of the companies’ models are getting an initial non conformity ruling from which they all have to then keep working with their foundries to get sets to the USGA which finally do make it through this incredibly tight inspection process. By incredibly tight tolerance, I mean that the top edge radius of just any two of the lines on any two heads in a set can be off by 0.001” and the whole set does not pass.

Previous to this new scoreline rule, the USGA only checked 3 heads from a full set of irons, now they are checking every line on every head in a set with scoreline tolerances which are much smaller than ever before. So many companies have had to remake sample numerous times before they get them approved. At the same time, this also means if it is that hard to make ONE set correctly, what do you think the odds are that every head of all the many production heads are going to be within the rules? Not much, I can assure you because the USGA really created a real nightmare for the club companies with this new rule.

TOM

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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:53 PM
To: ShopTalk@...
Subject: ShopTalk: Meets 2010 Groove Rule - Yes/No/ATR

USGA 2010 Conforming Irons and Wedges Database - http://www.usga.org/InfoClubsDB/index.asp

It looks like my MX-23 conform and so do the MP-30 irons my son plays. My other son has KZG CB and they do not conform. Not that anyone of us is playing professional matches. Just nice to know if a set conforms or not.

Now our Vokey wedges do not meet the 2010 groove rule, although the heads are about 5 years old (pre SM).

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#74794 From: "Harry F. Schiestel" <hfs@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:53 am
Subject: ShopTalk: Meets 2010 Groove Rule - Yes/No/ATR hfs@...
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USGA 2010 Conforming Irons and Wedges Database - http://www.usga.org/InfoClubsDB/index.asp

Now our Vokey wedges do not meet the 2010 groove rule, although the heads are about 5 years old (pre SM).

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#74793 From: Keith Anderson <DMURPH3@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:09 pm
Subject: ShopTalk: Exotics driver pull DMURPH3@...
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Aloha all! I am looking for a Driver length Tour Exotics  YS 5.1 "A"
flex pull out. I could settle for a Graphite Design YS 5 in "RR" flex
or the Cobra logo YS 5.1 in "A" flex if  you have one. Thanks, Keith
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#74792 From: jhm@...
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:10 pm
Subject: ShopTalk: Alpha V5 Fairway and hybrid jhm@...
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Nice fairway woods and hybrids from Alpha. I play the 19 hybrid and
even though a fairly deep face design, don't have any trouble hitting
it from most lies. Nice off the tee if you need something about 200
and straight. I've read some very good feedback on the fairway woods
at different discussion groups I sponsor, too.

http://www.clubmaker-online.com/products/alpha.v5.fairway.html

http://www.clubmaker-online.com/products/alpha.v5.hybrid.html
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#74791 From: jhm@...
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:12 pm
Subject: ShopTalk: Itomic Grips jhm@...
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New Itomic grips here http://clubmaker-online.com/itomic.html .
Introductory priced at $3.48 each. Available in black, white, blue,
or red. I'm starting out with the black model unless enough interest
in the colors. Super soft (but firm) feel and very tacky and long
lasting.
Very similar to a colorful grip line that is priced at $16 each.
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#74790 From: jhm@...
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:03 pm
Subject: ShopTalk: TaylorMade wins wedge appeal with USGA jhm@...
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Saw this in Golfweek.
John


The U.S. Golf Association has reversed its original decision and will
allow TaylorMade to sell interchangeable U-groove faces for its TP
xFT wedges in 2010.

The new xFT wedges with interchangeable faces will start appearing in
golf shops in December. The faces can be changed with a torque wrench
that quickly loosens and tightens two screws on the back of the
wedges. The interchangeable faces are flat in the front and look like
normal wedge faces.

After the USGA informed TaylorMade in October that xFT faces with
large U grooves could not be sold in 2010 - although sale of
smaller-groove faces was permitted - the company filed a formal
appeal.

Beginning Jan. 1, 2011, all irons and wedges with large U grooves no
longer can be made or distributed by golf club manufacturers.
However, the big grooves will be widely available in 2010.

TaylorMade based its case on this 2010 availability, arguing that
interchangeable wedge faces should be subject to the same deadlines
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#74789 From: Dave Tutelman <dtutelman@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:38 pm
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Resubscribed? dtutelman@...
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OK, let's put this out of its misery. TFlan, You're probably right. So...

I got only one copy of my message.
I assume nobody else got a resubscription notice.
An unexplained anomaly.
Let's leave well enough alone.

Cheers!
DaveT

At 01:21 PM 11/12/2009, Tom Flanagan wrote:

Prof T;

This will perhaps provide a laugh. Your question "Did anybody else . . . etc." will gather responses saying no, I didn't. You aren't asking who didn't - you're asking who did. Wanna bet?

TFlan

> From: dtutelman@...
> Subject: ShopTalk: Resubscribed?
> To: ShopTalk@...
>
> Hi, all!
>
> Did anybody else just get a ShopTalk subscription notice from
> majordomo? I just did.
>
> Curious. And it will be interesting to see whether I get two copies
> of this (subscribed twice).
>
> Oh well,
> DaveT
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