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1815 paul vandenbrink <pva...
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Feb 2, 2003
3:46 pm
Hi Star and other people in Lurk mode I was wondering if we could re-visit the question of having an American subset of the Shaw Alphabet. I have had a...
1816 Philip Newton
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Feb 2, 2003
5:45 pm
... I would have thought that American, especially, would benefit from the rhotic letters since all American varieties I am familiar with are rhotic -- whereas...
1817 Paul Gershon Vandenbr...
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Feb 3, 2003
6:19 am
Hi Philip Thank-you for your prompt feedback. Let me respond to 2 of your points, for the moment. First, as for the 6 Rhotic letters, I chose to bypass in the...
1818 embryomystic@...
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Feb 3, 2003
6:26 am
Remember, though, that there are non-Rhotic American accents as well. Ever been to Boston? I.M. Davis ... "A witty saying proves nothing." ~Voltaire...
1819 Scott Stephens <swste...
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Feb 3, 2003
7:08 am
I would have thought that rhotic forms would be an advantage to rhotic groups rather than non-rhotic groups. When someone wanted to write "bird", for example,...
1820 Hugh Birkenhead
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Feb 3, 2003
11:40 am
... From: Philip Newton To: shavian@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [shavian] Re: Greetings to a fellow Shavian. ... I...
1821 Newton, Philip
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Feb 3, 2003
11:52 am
... Someone knowing the current version of Shavian and speaking (non-rhotic) Brit-Eng might be inclined to read the "ah" version of the first word as "tarp"...
1822 Hugh Birkenhead
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Feb 3, 2003
12:07 pm
... From: Newton, Philip Someone knowing the current version of Shavian and speaking (non-rhotic) Brit-Eng might be inclined to read the "ah" version of the...
1823 RSRICHMOND@...
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Feb 3, 2003
2:13 pm
... subset of the Shaw Alphabet.<< As a strongly rhotic North American speaker, I find the original Shaw Alphabet quite comfortable, and I continue to think...
1824 C. Paige Gabhart
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Feb 3, 2003
2:20 pm
Watching the discussions that take place on this site convinces me that the plight of English spelling is essentially hopeless. I read a report of a study...
1825 Mike <theomnis@...>
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Feb 3, 2003
4:06 pm
I am a high school student currently studying the Shavian alphabet, and I am currently having trouble finding the difference between the AIR, ERR, and ARRAY...
1826 paul vandenbrink <pva...
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Feb 3, 2003
4:08 pm
Hi Stephen Please don't forget that the Alphabet has to be designed for the benefit of even those foreign or untutored readers/writers who do not have recourse...
1827 Craig Butz
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Feb 3, 2003
4:39 pm
</lurk> ... My only quarrel here is that AH is more complicated to write than ON. Keep the four one-stroke simple vowels intact, please. Craig <lurk>...
1828 paul vandenbrink <pva...
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Feb 3, 2003
4:51 pm
Hello Student Guy You bumped into a problem a number of other people have suffered from. The sounds of some of Key words used to describe the sound of a ...
1829 Hugh Birkenhead
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Feb 3, 2003
5:26 pm
... From: Mike <theomnis@...> I am a high school student currently studying the Shavian alphabet, and I am currently having trouble finding the...
1830 Scott Stephens
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Feb 3, 2003
5:29 pm
I guess I should clarify my previous statements. I was looking at some text-to-speech software source code. There is one section which converts a written ...
1831 paul vandenbrink <pva...
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Feb 3, 2003
5:31 pm
Hi Paige I realize that the difficulties in acheiving unanimity may reduce some of us to hopelessness, but I myself hope that we will eventually acquire enough...
1832 paul vandenbrink <pva...
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Feb 3, 2003
5:47 pm
Hi Scott It is hard to compare the difficulty of learning to write Chinese with the difficulty of learning to write English. There are a number of side issues....
1833 Hugh Birkenhead
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Feb 3, 2003
5:52 pm
... From: Craig Butz </lurk> ... My only quarrel here is that AH is more complicated to write than ON. Keep the four one-stroke simple vowels intact, please. ...
1834 Scott Stephens
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Feb 3, 2003
6:11 pm
You probably would have done quite well in Chinese schools. The less legible the writing, the better ... it becomes a piece of art to hang up in the house ......
1835 Star Raven
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Feb 3, 2003
7:18 pm
I havesaid it once, and i will say it again, if you want to change the set for amenricans, DON'T ASSUME THAT WE ARE SIMPLETONS!!! I can understand the vowels...
1836 Star Raven
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Feb 3, 2003
7:27 pm
Simple Simone strikes again I see. Why must you insist that Americans are stupid? It is true, my bothers across the pond, that americans enter school when they...
1837 Star Raven
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Feb 3, 2003
7:39 pm
I saw the cut version and found it TOO limiting. Seing as how english is 13% irregular spellings as is, with hundreds of combinations to make about fifty...
1838 Star Raven
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Feb 3, 2003
7:46 pm
Reccomended reading: Why johnny can't read. It opened my eyes. Americans DO use a chinese-type system. That is why ALL of the shavian needs to be taken as a...
1839 Star Raven
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Feb 3, 2003
7:51 pm
... Air= bare, hair Err= learn, yearn, BRP AdVERtisment Urge/Array= ARP adverTISement aberrAtion Does this help? --Star (who also learned in high school) =====...
1840 Star Raven
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Feb 3, 2003
7:52 pm
Okay, now I agree. :) --Star ... ===== "Alright, enough with the storyline, let's get back to the monster killing...Hello!" ...
1841 Star Raven
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Feb 3, 2003
7:56 pm
... I BEG TO DIFFER!!! I use these three in their proper place all the time. These are very important. ... Pay no attention to the man behind the green...
1842 Hugh Birkenhead
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Feb 3, 2003
9:37 pm
This is exactly why you should take a look at the cut Shavian alphabet I devised. It consolidates those characters that cause confusion between the two...
1843 Hugh Birkenhead
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Feb 3, 2003
10:42 pm
... From: Star Raven To: shavian@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [shavian] Question ... I BEG TO DIFFER!!! I use these...
1844 Star Raven
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Feb 4, 2003
4:38 pm
Are you so sure about that? perhaps instructed to understand the differences, most people WOULD hear a difference. Minority or not, I think that there is...
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