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[shakai] An open question to the Australians   Message List  
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I don't know much about Australia, and as an American, I would hesitate to
comment on Australian attitudes . I have been very interested to see some
of the Australian posts about David Adwinkle's (sorry, I too find it a bit
hard to use his correct, Japanese name) problems at the Onsen.
I am not putting up this post up in a spirit of contradiction or to start
an arguement, but because I am genuinely curious about your attitudes.

My question is this: is it permissable to ban Japanese from your
establishment if they offend your other customers? I do not mean
nationilzed Japanese, I mean Yamato Japanese. And do you think most other
Australians feel the way you do?

I travel to Europe once or twice a year on business. I have heard
European hotel and restaurant owners expresse disgust of Japanese and
openly voice the desire to ban them from the premises.

Last march I was in LeLocle Switzerland eating a late lunch and the only
one in the restaurant. A Japanese ( he had several magazines in Japanese
with the usual words of English on the cover--this is how both the owner
and I knew he was Japanese) came in an order lunch, which he ate with all
the sucking , grunting and pig like noises some Japanese make when they
eat. Whenever he wanted something he yelled for it in a loud voice.

When he left, the owner said to me "I hate these Japanese. They eat like
pigs and upset all the other guest and yell around restaurant. I want to
put up a sign--NO JAPAN PEOPLE"

The cook, who was listening in said "No, no, you can't do that, all the
newspapers would make a fuss"

Any number of times in other parts of Switzerland and also in Holland I
have heard similar comments. I could enlarge this above story with many
other examples.

Tell me, do you think these Swiss hotel and restaurant owners should have
the right to ban Japanese if they feel they are upsetting their guests and
staff?

Bill




Sat Dec 2, 2000 1:52 am

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I don't know much about Australia, and as an American, I would hesitate to comment on Australian attitudes . I have been very interested to see some of the...
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Dec 2, 2000
1:54 am

Dear William, What an interesting tale. I speak for a few of the 'most other Australians' but don't claim to represent any great number with any great...
Peter Trebilco
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Dec 2, 2000
5:57 pm

Hi Paul, Thanks for a very interesting answer to my question. I am particularly fascinated by the numerous points on which American and Australian attitudes...
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Dec 3, 2000
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My apologies to the group for sending a semi draft of a message that was not meant to be sent. I agree with Peter Trebilco's general commentary on the...
Geoffrey Walker
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Dec 3, 2000
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While we are thinking about what David might do differently,<g> I wonder if there is any public subsidy to the onsen. Does, for example, the city subsidize his...
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Dec 3, 2000
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... Alas, no. Both the onsen owners (of both Yunohana and Osupa) and the local Otaru Hokensho have confirmed that that they are completely financially ...
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