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#380 From: "Amy Harlib" <aharlib@...>
Date: Fri Mar 10, 2000 6:40 am
Subject: Perdido Street Station Book Review fantastic fiction of interest to listmembers
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Recently read this book which IMHO is of great interest to listmembers---not
a spam or a commercial---just sharing.   Amy (avid lifelong reader of SF & F
literature in NYC).
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Amy Harlib
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Perdido Street Station by China Mieville (Macmillan, UK,  Mar  00)
16.99UK   hardcover     ISBN      0-333-78172-4

China Mieville, author of one previously published dark fantasy novel, King
Rat,  a very distinguished debut with a contemporary London setting as the
backdrop of a clever reworking of the Pied Piper legend, now ventures into
far more phantasmagorical realms with his sophomore effort, a science
fantasy epic so astonishingly good I can't praise it too highly!
     Perdido Street Station is set in an urban-gothic fantasy metropolis of
New
Crobuzon, sprawling and seething with weird technology and thaumaturgy and
teaming with diverse inhabitants of all sorts of human and sentient
non-human persuasions.  Magical and 'steampunk' technology  co-exists, there
being Babbage computing engines, coal-powered robot 'constructs' and an
underclass of biomagically 'Remade' victims of harsh judgements who may be
part-machine, part-animal, or wholly horrific.
     The plump, eccentric amateur scientist Isaac Dan der Grimnebulin is
approached by a visiting Garuda---a winged being now stripped of his wings
as punishment for a crime he commited amongst his own kind (about which he
is taciturnally reticent), who hopes to buy back the power of flight.  The
resulting research project produces an unforseen concatenation of monstrous
consequences in which a deadly horror is unleashed---so powerful is it that
even the demons of Hell are too frightened to fight it (declining when New
Crobuzon's corrupt government begs help from the ambassador of the
Netherworld).
     It is up to Grimnebulin and his rag-tag group of cronies to do what they
can
to deal with the flying terror, these protagonists including: Isaac's khepri
lover (a sculptress from a hybrid human-bodied/scarab beetle-headed
insectoid race); Yagharak the garuda; a gutsy lady reporter for a viciously
supressed subversive newspaper; the clandestine group-mind of New Crobuzon's
constructs; a secret traitor; a gangster-for-hire; and the Weaver (a truly
unique giant intelligent spider with uncanny dimension-spanning powers).
Mieville's writing skill is such that he makes all this fit together in a
feat of  imaginative creativity, devising a truly original setting of
Heironymous Boschean decadent complexity and atmosphere written with stylish
expertise equal to any of the masterful works of Jack Vance or Gene Wolfe or
Mervyn Peake.
Here are thoroughly dimensional
characters, quirky and flawed and utterly believable whether human or
non-human or mixed.  Here is a background of dazzling intricacy, rich in
gothic atmosphere, bizarre cultural diversity and 'local color'.  Here is a
wildly exciting and thrilling plot that relentlessly grips the reader and
never lets go until the unexpected ending.  (But be warned---there is a lot
of totally appropriate contextual darkness here, some non-gratuitous
gross-outs, and plenty of true-to- life cursing).
THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST BOOKS I HAVE EVER READ!!!
Perdido Street Station so splendid, so vivid, so clever (Mieville's use of
terms such as garuda and khepri from our own global mythic heritage to evoke
imagery), one hates for it to end (at 700 plus pages it leaves one craving
for more!), awestruck by its refreshing and ingenious approach to fantastic
fiction.  This extraordinary tour de force of the imagination deserves the
highest awards and encomiums!  What wonders will Mieville gift us with next?
His talent should be nurtured in order to continue to enrich us all!

#381 From: "Arthur D'Alembert" <alembert@...>
Date: Wed Apr 12, 2000 1:33 am
Subject: Sffword review for The Song of the Swan
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Hello, for Sci Fi readers, here there is Sffword review for The Song
of the Swan

http://www.sffworld.com/authors/d/dalembert_arthur/sffreviews/songofth
eswan.html

More reviews (SFsite, Huntress, Writer's choice..) into my page

Thanks

Arthur

http://www.50megs.com/aalembert

#382 From: "Sharon Haas" <sharhaas@...>
Date: Mon May 15, 2000 2:36 pm
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#383 From: "Andrea V" <solianq@...>
Date: Tue Jun 6, 2000 10:12 pm
Subject: Introduction
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Hi, I just joined today.  My name is Andrea Vaughn, and I'm from
Madison, WI.  I work at a computer company there.  Aside from the
obvious of watching too much television, I like to read just about
anything I can get my hands on, and write my own fiction as well
(check some of it out at my website, The Schmaltz Shoppe--
http://members.fortunecity.com/schmaltzshoppe/).  I'm really happy to
be a part of the list!


Andrea Vaughn
The Schmaltz Shoppe
For your no frills, free fiction fix!
http://members.fortunecity.com/schmaltzshoppe/

#384 From: "Andrea V" <solianq@...>
Date: Fri Jun 9, 2000 3:18 am
Subject: Novel Writing
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Hi, just wanted to let everyone know that I've posted the first three
chapters of my fantasy novel to my website, The Schmaltz Shoppe.  If
anyone is interested, please check it out and let me know what you
think.  This one is my baby, so I'm anxious to hear opinions.

Thanks!
Andrea Vaughn
The Schmaltz Shoppe
http://members.fortunecity.com/schmaltzshoppe/

#385 From: "Amy Harlib" <aharlib@...>
Date: Tue Jun 20, 2000 5:18 am
Subject: Necropolis: A Fantasy Adventure Book Review
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Just wanted to share this review before it gets posted in the July issue of
Blue Violet Journal and at Rambles.
Amy
--
Amy Harlib
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Necropolis: A Fantasy Adventure by Xina Marie Uhl   (XC Publishing, Oakland,
CA, May 2000---download,diskette or CD, trade paperback---Nov. 2000, $12.95,
ISBN#: 1-930805-00-4).
Necropolis, a first novel, is a delightfully different fantasy adventure set
in an invented world that reflects the author's scholarly interest in
ancient history.  Uhl's imaginary city-state of Eretria and its environs is
analogous to Mesopotamia, Syria and Greece at the time of the Roman
invasions---a refreshing change from the medieval European milieus that
dominate most of the fantasy genre.  In a highly skilled, spare, pithy and
lean prose style, the author manages to depict a complex multi-cultural,
pre-industrial civilization with colorful customs, institutions, markets,
temples, belief systems, a long history, literature, mysterious magic users,
etc.  Much of this detail is conveyed in the epigrams at the beginning of
each chapter, charming excerpts of poems, historical records, and
fragmentary bits of cultural odds and ends---a literary technique here used
with great
  effectiveness and sly wit.
All this serves as the backdrop for an endearing quartet of protagonists and
an exciting plot rich in exotic magical mayhem in the service of political
intrigue, as salt-of-the-earth, working stiff types get caught up as pawns
in power plays by cynical, scheming,and ruthless ruling elites.
Gilas, an imprisoned Councilman who still retains while in jail, certain
status and privileges, (obtained also because of his knowledge of arcane
arts), contrives to get Conyr, a prison guard, drawn into a political
intrigue.  Because of a favor owed to Gilas, Conyr saves the life of a
political prisoner named Dru and hides the injured, amnesiac man in his
quarters where he is tended to by Conyr and his dearest friends: the still
attractive widow Jesra, (who works as a tavern wench to survive), and her
feisty teenage daughter Val.  This unlikely foursome ends up fighting for
all their lives when exotic agents, both mundane and magical, of Cyra, the
city-state warring with Eretria, strive to capture Dru and use his sorcerous
gifts as a tool, (to be discarded later), in order to awaken and attempt to
exploit the supernatural powers of the dread Old Ones, ghostly but powerful
spirits of the ancestors who dwell in the eponymous Necropolis.  Dru and his
caretakers, now his friends once they've gotten to know his pleasant
personality, acquire eccentric allies in their struggle to survive: a dog,
Echo, who is more than he seems and Gilas, who wants to get his governing
council position back and depose the power-mad Zelos, who put him in prison
for opposing his dictatorial plans.
To arrive at the satisfying conclusion, the reader is treated to much
excitement both adventurous and sorcerous as events force the protagonists
to cope with a bang-up necromantic showdown in the subterranean lair of the
Old Ones.  Along the way, all the grandeur and squalor of the Eretrian
culture is revealed and the characters are shown to be fully fleshed-out and
sympathetic---even the antagonists and their hired assassins and wizards are
given plausible motivations and vivid personalities.
Necropolis distinguishes itself for its original story that makes heroes of
ordinary people caught up in the conflicts of the higher stratas of their
societies, (Dru's extraordinariness is only revealed gradually and he stays
friends with Conyr, Jesra and Val even after regaining his health, memory
and power).  Regular folks who rise to the occasion but never lose their
common sense and street smarts make for memorable literary creation along
with the colorful background, intriguing  magic and  a clear ending in a
book of under 300 pages.  For a yarn told with this much wit, invention,
suspense and economy, a sequel would be welcome---if only to spend more time
with the lovable Dru, Conyr, Jesra, Val, Echo and even the ambiguous Gilas
in their fascinating, vibrant world.

#386 From: "Jennifer R. J." <jenjavar@...>
Date: Mon Jul 10, 2000 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: Welcome to sffbooks
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At 03:31 PM 7/10/00 +0000, you wrote:

>SFFBooks has a website at http://kalliope.hypermart.net/sffbooks/
>The site includes a members page where *some* members have posted their
>introduction, and you are encouraged to post yours (as well as to the list).
>There is also a Booklist page where the current book and discussion topics are
>posted.  Feel free to bring up any additional topic at any time.
>Thanks,
>Anitra, ListMama

        Hi, my name is Jennifer.  I've been a science fiction and fantasy
fan since I was about 3 years old (fairy tales and Star Wars were my
initiations- as well as my father's great story telling abilities).  I've
been reading SF books since I was 10.  I later became a horror fan.  My
favorite authors include Clive Barker, Sheri S. Tepper, Anne McCaffrey,
Mercedes Lackey, Anne Rice, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Ursula K. LeGuin, Robin
McKinley, Octavia E. Butler, Arthur C. Clarke, and many others.
       I also write, but not much SF, fantasy, or horror at the moment.  I
have other things to purge from my mind first, I guess.
            Jennifer

#387 From: Lucy Brancato <Brancato@...>
Date: Wed Jul 26, 2000 11:16 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Welcome to sffbooks
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Hi Jennifer
have you read Ursula le Guin's Earthsea quartet. It's one of favourite books.
Lucy




At 12:49 PM 7/10/00 -0400, you wrote:
>At 03:31 PM 7/10/00 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>SFFBooks has a website at http://kalliope.hypermart.net/sffbooks/
>>The site includes a members page where *some* members have posted their
>>introduction, and you are encouraged to post yours (as well as to the list).
>>There is also a Booklist page where the current book and discussion
topics are
>>posted.  Feel free to bring up any additional topic at any time.
>>Thanks,
>>Anitra, ListMama
>
>       Hi, my name is Jennifer.  I've been a science fiction and fantasy
>fan since I was about 3 years old (fairy tales and Star Wars were my
>initiations- as well as my father's great story telling abilities).  I've
>been reading SF books since I was 10.  I later became a horror fan.  My
>favorite authors include Clive Barker, Sheri S. Tepper, Anne McCaffrey,
>Mercedes Lackey, Anne Rice, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Ursula K. LeGuin, Robin
>McKinley, Octavia E. Butler, Arthur C. Clarke, and many others.
>      I also write, but not much SF, fantasy, or horror at the moment.  I
>have other things to purge from my mind first, I guess.
>           Jennifer
>
>
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#388 From: "Jennifer R. J." <jenjavar@...>
Date: Thu Jul 27, 2000 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: Welcome to sffbooks
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At 08:33 AM 7/27/00 +0000, you wrote:

>Hi Jennifer
>have you read Ursula le Guin's Earthsea quartet. It's one of favourite books.
>Lucy

       Yes, I have.  It's been about twelve years since is read the original
three though, so I've forgotten a lot of the details.  I have to reread
them sometime.  I've only read two other LeGuin books- The Eye of the Heron
and The Left Hand of Darkness.
       I've discovered another favorite author in the past few weeks.  I've
read two Catherine Asaro books and I plan to read more soon.
           Jennifer

#389 From: Lucy Brancato <Brancato@...>
Date: Thu Jul 27, 2000 11:26 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Welcome to sffbooks
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hi Jennifer,
I'll have to check out those other le guinn books. The only other one I've
got is the dispossed. Sounds very good I just havn't had a chance to read it.
What is Catherine Asaro like? I don't think I've ever heard of her. What
can you recommend
Lucy




At 09:43 AM 7/27/00 -0400, you wrote:
>At 08:33 AM 7/27/00 +0000, you wrote:
>
>      Yes, I have.  It's been about twelve years since is read the original
>three though, so I've forgotten a lot of the details.  I have to reread
>them sometime.  I've only read two other LeGuin books- The Eye of the Heron
>and The Left Hand of Darkness.
>      I've discovered another favorite author in the past few weeks.  I've
>read two Catherine Asaro books and I plan to read more soon.
>          Jennifer
>
>
>
>The current reading list is posted at
http://kalliope.hypermart.net/sffbooks/booklist.html
>
>
>

#390 From: "Steve Savile" <cinderellaman@...>
Date: Thu Jul 27, 2000 11:27 pm
Subject: SV: Re: Welcome to sffbooks
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>What is Catherine Asaro like? I don't think I've ever heard of her. What
>can you recommend
>Lucy


Haven't read her but I have a hunch she's good. Anne Groell bought her for
Bantam and Annie hasn't bought a duff one yet .)

Steve

#391 From: Lucy Brancato <Brancato@...>
Date: Fri Jul 28, 2000 12:30 am
Subject: Re: SV: Re: Welcome to sffbooks
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Hi Steve,
can you tell me the names of any of her books? I just tried checking for
her and came up  a total blank
Lucy




>
>Haven't read her but I have a hunch she's good. Anne Groell bought her for
Bantam and Annie hasn't bought a duff one yet .)
>
>Steve
>
>
>
>
>The current reading list is posted at
http://kalliope.hypermart.net/sffbooks/booklist.html
>
>
>

#392 From: "Steve Savile" <cinderellaman@...>
Date: Fri Jul 28, 2000 12:37 am
Subject: SV: SV: Re: Welcome to sffbooks
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Lucy,

If you mean Anne, she wrote Anvil of The Sun, Bridge of Valour and Cauldron of
Iniquity... she's Senior editor at Bantam and looks after George RR Martin,
Robin Hobb, Michael Stackpole, Catherine Asaro, Kristine Katherine Rusch, Lynn
Flewelling, Paula Volsky, Trisha Sullivan and Connie WIllis off the top of my
head, oh yeah and Tanith Lee... sure I have left someone out here...

If you mean Catherine, she's got an excellent homepage at
http://sff.net/people/asaro that will give you all you need to know. She is a
lovely lady, that much I do know. Definately on my to read pile.

Hope that helps

Steve


-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: Lucy Brancato <Brancato@...>
Till: sffbooks@egroups.com <sffbooks@egroups.com>
Datum: 28 July 2000 02:21
Ämne: Re: SV: [sffbooks] Re: Welcome to sffbooks


>Hi Steve,
>can you tell me the names of any of her books? I just tried checking for
>her and came up  a total blank
>Lucy
>
>
>
>
>>
>>Haven't read her but I have a hunch she's good. Anne Groell bought her for
>Bantam and Annie hasn't bought a duff one yet .)
>>
>>Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>The current reading list is posted at
>http://kalliope.hypermart.net/sffbooks/booklist.html
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>The current reading list is posted at
http://kalliope.hypermart.net/sffbooks/booklist.html
>

#393 From: Lucy Brancato <Brancato@...>
Date: Fri Jul 28, 2000 1:16 am
Subject: Re: SV: SV: Re: Welcome to sffbooks
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thanks heaps Steve :)
I shall check it out!
Lucy

At 02:37 AM 7/28/00 +0200, you wrote:
>Lucy,
>
>If you mean Anne, she wrote Anvil of The Sun, Bridge of Valour and
Cauldron of Iniquity... she's Senior editor at Bantam and looks after
George RR Martin, Robin Hobb, Michael Stackpole, Catherine Asaro, Kristine
Katherine Rusch, Lynn Flewelling, Paula Volsky, Trisha Sullivan and Connie
WIllis off the top of my head, oh yeah and Tanith Lee... sure I have left
someone out here...
>
>If you mean Catherine, she's got an excellent homepage at
http://sff.net/people/asaro that will give you all you need to know. She is
a lovely lady, that much I do know. Definately on my to read pile.
>
>Hope that helps
>
>Steve
>
>
>-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>Från: Lucy Brancato <Brancato@...>
>Till: sffbooks@egroups.com <sffbooks@egroups.com>
>Datum: 28 July 2000 02:21
>Ämne: Re: SV: [sffbooks] Re: Welcome to sffbooks
>
>
>>Hi Steve,
>>can you tell me the names of any of her books? I just tried checking for
>>her and came up  a total blank
>>Lucy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Haven't read her but I have a hunch she's good. Anne Groell bought her for
>>Bantam and Annie hasn't bought a duff one yet .)
>>>
>>>Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The current reading list is posted at
>>http://kalliope.hypermart.net/sffbooks/booklist.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>The current reading list is posted at
http://kalliope.hypermart.net/sffbooks/booklist.html
>>
>
>
>
>
>The current reading list is posted at
http://kalliope.hypermart.net/sffbooks/booklist.html
>
>
>

#394 From: "Jennifer R. J." <jenjavar@...>
Date: Tue Aug 1, 2000 4:40 am
Subject: Re: LeGuin & Asaro
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>hi Jennifer,
  >I'll have to check out those other le guinn books. The only other one I've
  >got is the dispossed. Sounds very good I just havn't had a chance to read it.

       Me too.  I'd really like to read all of her books sometime.  I also
have The Dispossessed, but I haven't read it yet.  I agree that it sounds
good though.  I picked up my own copy of The Left Hand of Darkness over the
weekend.  I'd really like to reread it because it's very confusing.  My
friend has reread it several times and she says it becomes more clear to
her each time she reads it.  I hope the same is true for myself.


  >What is Catherine Asaro like? I don't think I've ever heard of her. What
  >can you recommend
  >Lucy

      I recommend all of her books.  She only has 6 out right now, with two
more on the way this year.  I'm reading her Skolian series and I think it's
great.  Her books are hard SF with romantic stories within them too.  She's
also a very nice person.  I highly recommend her books and I'm hoping to
convert my friends into Catherine Asaro fans.  : )
      Sorry it took me so long to respond.  I was away for the weekend.  Did
you check out Catherine Asaro's web page yet?  I hope you find it helpful.
            Jennifer

#395 From: Lucy Brancato <Brancato@...>
Date: Tue Aug 1, 2000 11:09 pm
Subject: Re: Re: LeGuin & Asaro
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Hi Jennifer,
I'm so intrigued by the left hand of darkness that I'm gonna have to go and
buy it :)
I tried checking out the Catherine Asaro webpage but I couldn't get into
it. I'll try again. From what you have said she might be worth a read. If
you want to try a good fantasy authour read some of Sara Douglass.
Lucy





>
>      Me too.  I'd really like to read all of her books sometime.  I also
>have The Dispossessed, but I haven't read it yet.  I agree that it sounds
>good though.  I picked up my own copy of The Left Hand of Darkness over the
>weekend.  I'd really like to reread it because it's very confusing.  My
>friend has reread it several times and she says it becomes more clear to
>her each time she reads it.  I hope the same is true for myself.
>
>
> >What is Catherine Asaro like? I don't think I've ever heard of her. What
> >can you recommend
> >Lucy
>
>     I recommend all of her books.  She only has 6 out right now, with two
>more on the way this year.  I'm reading her Skolian series and I think it's
>great.  Her books are hard SF with romantic stories within them too.  She's
>also a very nice person.  I highly recommend her books and I'm hoping to
>convert my friends into Catherine Asaro fans.  : )
>     Sorry it took me so long to respond.  I was away for the weekend.  Did
>you check out Catherine Asaro's web page yet?  I hope you find it helpful.
>           Jennifer
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>The current reading list is posted at
http://kalliope.hypermart.net/sffbooks/booklist.html
>
>
>

#396 From: "Geri " <g.maisano@...>
Date: Tue Aug 1, 2000 11:23 pm
Subject: Re: Re: LeGuin & Asaro
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---
I thought Left of Darkness was an incredible book and i liked Lathe of Heaven
very much. Her books can be difficult to get into sometimes but they are worth
it.  I enjoy writers who can take things we take for granted in our world and
make you think about them in different ways.

I'm interested too in hearing about Asaro.  I think i'd like to try her books.

Geri

"Protecting the earth from the scum of the universe."

MIB

On Wed, 02 Aug 2000 09:09:11
  Lucy Brancato wrote:
>Hi Jennifer,
>I'm so intrigued by the left hand of darkness that I'm gonna have to go and
>buy it :)
>I tried checking out the Catherine Asaro webpage but I couldn't get into
>it. I'll try again. From what you have said she might be worth a read. If
>you want to try a good fantasy authour read some of Sara Douglass.
>Lucy
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>      Me too.  I'd really like to read all of her books sometime.  I also
>>have The Dispossessed, but I haven't read it yet.  I agree that it sounds
>>good though.  I picked up my own copy of The Left Hand of Darkness over the
>>weekend.  I'd really like to reread it because it's very confusing.  My
>>friend has reread it several times and she says it becomes more clear to
>>her each time she reads it.  I hope the same is true for myself.
>>
>>
>> >What is Catherine Asaro like? I don't think I've ever heard of her. What
>> >can you recommend
>> >Lucy
>>
>>     I recommend all of her books.  She only has 6 out right now, with two
>>more on the way this year.  I'm reading her Skolian series and I think it's
>>great.  Her books are hard SF with romantic stories within them too.  She's
>>also a very nice person.  I highly recommend her books and I'm hoping to
>>convert my friends into Catherine Asaro fans.  : )
>>     Sorry it took me so long to respond.  I was away for the weekend.  Did
>>you check out Catherine Asaro's web page yet?  I hope you find it helpful.
>>           Jennifer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>The current reading list is posted at
>http://kalliope.hypermart.net/sffbooks/booklist.html
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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#397 From: "Jennifer R. J." <jenjavar@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2000 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: LeGuin & Asaro
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At 09:42 AM 8/2/00 +0000, you wrote:

>Hi Jennifer,
>I'm so intrigued by the left hand of darkness that I'm gonna have to go and
>buy it :)

       : )  I thought it was a great book.  It's very thought-provoking, but
also very confusing.  I'd like to reread it because I felt like I didn't
get the full impact of the book the first time I read it.  Plus, I forget
things easily, so I'd like to refresh my memory.  I hope you like it.


>I tried checking out the Catherine Asaro webpage but I couldn't get into
>it. I'll try again. From what you have said she might be worth a read. If
>you want to try a good fantasy authour read some of Sara Douglass.
>Lucy

       I had a similar problem last week with her web site.  I'm enjoying
her books so much.  I'm almost done with The Last Hawk, which is the third
book of hers I've read.  I plan to read The Radiant Seas right after I
finish The Last Hawk.  I'm really into romantic SF at the moment.
       You are the third person to recommend her to me in the past week.  I
will definitely have to get her books sometime.
               Jennifer

#398 From: "Jennifer R. J." <jenjavar@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2000 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: LeGuin & Asaro
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At 09:42 AM 8/2/00 +0000, you wrote:
>---
>I thought Left of Darkness was an incredible book and i liked Lathe of
>Heaven very much. Her books can be difficult to get into sometimes but
>they are worth it.  I enjoy writers who can take things we take for
>granted in our world and make you think about them in different ways.

       I saw the PBS movie of The Lathe of Heaven recently and I'd like to
read the book sometime (I plan on reading all of LeGuin's books sometime
anyway though).  The thing I loved about LeGuin (and Sheri S. Tepper and
Octavia E. Butler as well) is that, like you said, she makes one think
while reading- and long after finishing.  Sometimes I like to read just to
be entertained or to escape, but most of the time, I like to be enlightened
in some way.


>I'm interested too in hearing about Asaro.  I think i'd like to try her books.
>  Geri

      Her web page has sample chapters, which hooked me immediately.  She
does get very technical at times, but her characters are the main focus-
which I love.  I'll read anything as long as the characters are compelling-
hard SF, romance, fantasy, social science fiction, etc.
            Jennifer

#399 From: "Mark Worthen" <nitewanderer@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2000 8:06 pm
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Hi, I'm new/old.  I was around in the dark ages when this list was
formed, but have been out of action for some time.

I'm Mark Worthen, I'm a writer, but I work at a university to support
my writing habit.  I'm married with an assortment of kids and
stepkids.

Science fiction preferences?  Horror.  Hard sf.  Cyberpunk.  Favorite
authors?  Harlan Ellison, hands down.  Clive Barker, William Gibson,
Steven King, Greg Egan, Spider Robinson, lots and lots of others in
that vein.  Favorite classic authors?  Same as everyone else's:
Asimov and Heinlein.  Also, Stanley Weinbaum, and the guy who
wrote "The Cold Equations."  His name escapes me and it was a
pseudonym, anyway.

<Taking a deep bow, Mark walks offstage.>

MWW

#400 From: "Deborah and Sarah" <debreed@...>
Date: Thu Aug 3, 2000 3:54 am
Subject: Re: LeGuin & Asaro
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I have just finished "Clay Ark" by Octavia Butler, the only thing of hers I
have ever read but I plan on reading more of her stuff.   Simple and clean,
uncluttered writing.   Interesting premise. I read it straight through.
  Yes, I really like Le Guin, strange stuff.
  Romantic scifi?  I think Anne  McCaffrey's Pern books and Marion Zimmer
Bradley's Darkover novels are romantic.  Just my opinion.
I haven't read any Asaro.
Igor  (Deborah)

#401 From: "Jennifer R. J." <jenjavar@...>
Date: Thu Aug 3, 2000 7:42 pm
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At 08:21 AM 8/3/00 +0000, you wrote:

>I have just finished "Clay Ark" by Octavia Butler, the only thing of hers I
>have ever read but I plan on reading more of her stuff.   Simple and clean,
>uncluttered writing.   Interesting premise. I read it straight through.

       I recently read her Parable of the Sower.  I plan to read the rest of
her books sometime too.  I just picked up Dawn last weekend, so that will
probably be the next one I read of hers.


>  Yes, I really like Le Guin, strange stuff.
>  Romantic scifi?  I think Anne  McCaffrey's Pern books and Marion Zimmer
>Bradley's Darkover novels are romantic.  Just my opinion.
>I haven't read any Asaro.
>Igor  (Deborah)

       Most of Anne McCaffrey's books feature a romance.  I've only read on
Darkover novel so far though, but I have heard that some are romantic.
             Jennifer

#402 From: "Mr. Furious" <nitewanderer@...>
Date: Thu Aug 3, 2000 9:41 pm
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>       Most of Anne McCaffrey's books feature a romance.  I've only read on
>Darkover novel so far though, but I have heard that some are romantic.
>             Jennifer


She started her career as a romance novelist.  All she really did was take
the "Futuristic Romances" and make em less "top-heavy" on the romance, and
voila!  Speculative fiction.

She has some great stuff.  My personal fave is Crystal Singer.  But her
romances?  Not that great.  I do read the odd romance (one a year), and as
romance go, I'm glad she switched.  I imagine her banker is too. <g>

Mark

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#403 From: "Geri " <g.maisano@...>
Date: Fri Aug 4, 2000 12:15 am
Subject: Re: Re: Lathe of Heaven
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That PBS production of Lathe of Heaven was one of the best things i've ever seen
on TV.  It gave me the cold chills.  Doesn't it remind you of the mov1e the
Matrix?

Geri

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#404 From: "Sharon Haas" <sharhaas@...>
Date: Fri Aug 4, 2000 2:22 am
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Hi
I have been following your thread as the Lathe of Heaven caught my
eye. I saw the PBS movie when it was first broadcast and have been
trying for the last few years to find a copy of it to buy. I would
really appreciate it if anyone has any ideas where it is available.I
shop online a lot and everytime I find a video site I check and so far
nada.
Also, has anyone ever read any books by the author R.A.MacAvoy?
Tea with a Black Dragon,Twisting the Rope,
Lens of the World,The Third Eagle, King of the Dead,Belly of the
Wolf,A Trio for Lute (Damiano, Damiano's Lute, Raphael)  are some of
her titles.These are all excellent although have been out for so long
that they are hard to find unless you haunt used book stores and sites
like I do.
I read all kinds of S/fiction & S/fantsy and am now waiting eagerly
for the next installment of Tad Williams wonderful on-going Otherland
books.
I am glad to see some activity on this list again!
Sharon

#405 From: Lucy Brancato <Brancato@...>
Date: Fri Aug 4, 2000 5:48 am
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I love the crystal singer series. Excellent read!


At 09:41 PM 8/3/00 GMT, you wrote:
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>She has some great stuff.  My personal fave is Crystal Singer.  But her
>romances?  Not that great.  I do read the odd romance (one a year), and as
>romance go, I'm glad she switched.  I imagine her banker is too. <g>
>
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#406 From: Douglas McCusker <douglas@...>
Date: Fri Aug 4, 2000 7:04 am
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Hi Everyone,

I am new to this list, and would like to give you some info on me.

I love reading science fiction, I started out being a hard core Fantasy
reader and have subconsciously moved over to science fiction.
Authors I enjoy reading:

Robert Jordan
LE Modesty Jnr
Peter F Hamilton - brilliant
Anne McCafrey
Tracy Hickman
Athur C Clark
Ben Bova
Ray Bradbury

Ahh heck, there are far, far to many to mention.

I am currently reading a series called 'Deathstalker' by Simon R Green. I
found it started out promising, but has unfortunatley turned into nothing
more than a hack and slash, also I have just finished the second book and
found there are three more to go - ahh well, somethings you just have to
finish.

Ciao for now.

Douglas McCusker
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#407 From: "Deborah and Sarah" <debreed@...>
Date: Fri Aug 4, 2000 2:36 am
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Jennifer, thanks for the recommendations.   Will add them to my list.Are
they all scifi?  or does she do other stuff?
Igor

#408 From: "Jennifer R. J." <jenjavar@...>
Date: Fri Aug 4, 2000 11:41 am
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>That PBS production of Lathe of Heaven was one of the best things i've
ever seen on TV. It gave me the cold chills. Doesn't it >remind you of the
mov1e the Matrix?
  >Geri

      I really liked it.  I'm glad my local PBS affiliate was playing it-
not all of them did.  I also really liked the interview they showed with
Ursula K. LeGuin after they aired The Laste of Heaven.  The movie did
remind me a little of the Matrix.  I'd really like to read the book.  For
those of you who have both seen the movie and read the book, was it a good
adaptation?
          Jennifer

#409 From: "Jennifer R. J." <jenjavar@...>
Date: Fri Aug 4, 2000 11:47 am
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>Hi
  >I have been following your thread as the Lathe of Heaven caught my
  >eye. I saw the PBS movie when it was first broadcast and have been
  >trying for the last few years to find a copy of it to buy. I would
  >really appreciate it if anyone has any ideas where it is available.I
  >shop online a lot and everytime I find a video site I check and so far
  >nada.

       When I saw it on PBS, it was during their pledge drive and they
offered a copy of the VHS if one pledged so much money.  They said that
wouldn't be available anywhere else, but some people may have sold their
copies in Ebay.  They also mentioned that it's going to be released on DVD
sometime this fall.


  >Also, has anyone ever read any books by the author R.A.MacAvoy?
  >Tea with a Black Dragon,Twisting the Rope,
  >Lens of the World,The Third Eagle, King of the Dead,Belly of the
  >Wolf,A Trio for Lute (Damiano, Damiano's Lute, Raphael) are some of
  >her titles.These are all excellent although have been out for so long
  >that they are hard to find unless you haunt used book stores and sites
  >like I do.

       I have her book The Book of Kells, but I haven't read it yet.  I
found it used.


  >I read all kinds of S/fiction & S/fantsy and am now waiting eagerly
  >for the next installment of Tad Williams wonderful on-going Otherland
  >books.
  >I am glad to see some activity on this list again!
  >Sharon

       I'm currently reading his Tailchaser's Song with my boyfriend.  I'll
probably read his other books sometime too.  I also have The Dragonbone Chair.
            Jennifer

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