The townland in the letter is Killeenafinnane/Killenifane, it is located in:  
County Kerry, Barony of Trughanacmy, Civil Parish of Kiltallagh, PLU of Tralee
and Province of Munster.  317 acres in size.

I found this guy as a possible relative: (I don't see the date, will have to go
back and get that - I must have cut it off)


Name

  JOHN SHUELL

MARTHA FITZGERALD

Address
  CAHIRCIVEEN
CAHIRCIVEEN
Occupation
  SERGEANT IN THE 10TH REGT
SERVANT
Father
  JOHN SHUELL
PATRICK FITZGERALD (father of bride)
Mother

  N/R

N/R
Further details in the record
Recorded Diocesan Area

ARDFERT & AGHADOE
Recorded Parochial Area
CAHIR
Husband Age
27
Husband Marital Status
S
Wife Age
23
Wife Marital Status
S
Husband's Father's Occupation
TRADESMAN
Wife's Father's Occupation
LABOURER
Witness 1
JAMES H EAGAR (WITNESS FOR HUSBAND)
Witness 3
WILLIAM EMMETT (WITNESS FOR WIFE)
About the record
Book Number

Page

Entry Number

Record_Identifier

Image Filename
  N/R

9

17

KY-CI-MA-1187

k-71-3-1-009


View the church register page containing this record.


--- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, no2more@... wrote:
>
> All information helps.   I figure when I didn't find the O'Neils  in
> Caherciveen/ Killarney it meant that I was probably looking in the wrong 
parish,
> or possibly now, the wrong first name.  So many little townlands to  check
> in Ireland.  There were no civil records, banned by the crown in the  early
> years and also banned in the Church's, but many Priests recorded them
> anyway, and kept hidden.  I find the Church records are only as good as the
> Parish Priest and how he recorded them.
>
>
> In a message dated 1/8/2013 9:06:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> earlinebradt@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Norma, I figure that maybe if I give you accurate info you may have
> more success. I have to add that Alexander O'Neil was not Catholic,
> probably  going back to King James and the Catholic O'Neils that were exiled.
> O'Neil is  one of the oldest surnames in Ireland, from the time of St.
Patrick,
> and the  first family to practise Christianity in Ireland. They were the
> ruling family  until King James came along. The flag of Northern Ireland still
> has "the  bloody hand of O'Neill" on it. Just a bit of trivia...
> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>
> ____________________________________
> From: no2more@...
> Sender: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:47:28 -0500 (EST)
> To:
> ReplyTo: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
>
>
>
> Ok Earline, received all and am now digesting.  Will work on it  again this
> afternoon.   I had to laugh at the expression in the  letter about mutton.
>   I haven't heard lamb referred to as  mutton since back in the 40's or
> 50's, when my father used to call it  that.   We don't get mutton today, as I
> understand it, mutton came  from old tough lambs, whereas today we get young
> lamb's meat which is not  tough.
> Anyway, something more to work with, will get back to you.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/8/2013 7:44:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> earlinebradt@... writes:
>
>
> I uploaded a copy of the letter from Ireland for you to read, I figure
> it'll be easier than giving you misinformation from memory.
>
> --- In _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) ,  earlinebradt@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Norma, she may have been an  aunt, Eliza Shuel was born in Ireland about
> 1820, parents, John Shuel and  Mary Langford, married James not John O'Neil,
> my mistake, son of William?  (LDS Ancestral file) about 1848 in Detroit.
> John Shuel died Jan. 27, 1854 in  Essex County.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent on the TELUS Mobility  network with BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >  From: no2more@
> > Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> >  Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 18:12:18
> > To:
> > Reply-To: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> >  Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
> >
> > Earline, I am not having much luck with the O'Neil's in Caherciveen  or
> > Killarney, but I did find an Elizabeth Shuell. Could this one be  yours?
> >
> > Baptism of ELIZABETH SHUELL of NR
> >
> >
> > on 17 July 1807
> >
> > Parish/Church/Congregation -  KILCOLMAN
> >
> > Area - KERRY (COI)
> >
> >
> > In  a message dated 1/7/2013 5:20:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >  earlinebradt@ writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Norma,  she mentions Tralee as well. The letter was originally in Gaelic
> but
> > was translated to English.
> > Sent on the TELUS Mobility  network with BlackBerry
> >
> >  ____________________________________
> > From: no2more@
> >  Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:36:49 -0500 (EST)
> > To:
> >  ReplyTo: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok Earline, we may be in  luck. Caherciveen is the same townland that my
> > Sullivans come from  so have done a lot of looking in that area. I found
> > that most of  the people were christened or baptised in the Church in
> > Killarney.  The Church in Caherciveen was not built until after our dates.
> > I'll  take a look later today and see what we may be able to find. Who
> >  knows, some of your O'Neils may be married to my Sullivans?
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/7/2013 9:15:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > earlinebradt@ writes:
> >
> >
> > Norma, King  James drove most of the O'Neils out of Ireland or killed
> them
> > in  the 17th century so maybe it would be easier to find O'Neil families
> that
> > stayed behind.
> > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with  BlackBerry
> >
> > ____________________________________
> >  From: earlinebradt@
> > Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:08:03 -0000
> > To:
> > ReplyTo:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> >
> >
> >
> > Norma, the most recent info  I have in Ireland is a letter I found online
> > from 1858 from my 3rd  great-grandfather's sister Millie O'Neil Shuell,
> > married to Walter.  in Caherciveen?, County Kerry to her brother
> Alexander who
> >  immigrated with my 3rd great-grandfather in the 1830's. My 3rd
> >  great-grandfather, John, was married to Eliza Shuell about 1850 in
> Ontario,  I assume she
> > was Walter's sister. She died during childbirth in  1855 and he remarried
> > twice before his death in Sandwich, Ontario.  Their son Edward J. O'Neil,
> > born in 1855, was mayor of Sandwich for  a few years. My 2nd
> great-grandfather,
> > William, born in 1851, was  married to Viola Holden, my Crocket cousin
> > line.
> >
> >  Sent from my BlackBerry® PlayBook™
> > www.blackberry.com
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________
> > From:  "no2more@"
> > To: "_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) "
> > Sent: January 7, 2013 8:30 AM
> > Subject: Re:  [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
> >
> >
> >
> > Earline, they have some new resources for searching in  Ireland now that
> > does make it a little easier. O'Neil can't be any  worse then
> > Sullivan/O'Sullivan. Do you have any idea what County or  townland they
> came from?
> > Give me a little background on your O'Neil  and I will see if I can find
> > anything to get you started.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/7/2013 7:38:38 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time,
> > earlinebradt@ writes:
> >
> >
> > Above  freezing today.
> >
> > Norma, I haven't done any research in  Ireland for my Irish ancestors. I
> > imagine looking for the right  O'Neil family is near impossible.
> >
> > Sent on the TELUS  Mobility network with BlackBerry
> >
> >  ____________________________________
> > From: "Norma"
> > Sender:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 12:02:40 -0000
> > To:
> > ReplyTo:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> >
> >
> >
> > 62 deg. this morning with  some sprinkles. Clearing and sunny the rest of
> > the day.
> > I  wear slippers in the winter, the floors are far too cold for bare
> feet,
> > but in the summer that same coolness is comforting to hot  feet.
> > I did some wallpaper repair yesterday. When I had the man come  out to
> > re-grout my shower in the master bath, he messed up the  wallpaper and
> > fortunately I has extra left over that I had saved. A  little patching
> here and there
> > and it looks like new again. Thank  goodness it was only small areas.
> (Just
> > the area above the shower  tile to the ceiling.) In a few spots all I had
> > to do was re-glue  the edges. Then I did the same in the Hall bath. In
> > cleaning, I has  used some kind of cleaner on the back splash that left a
> stain on
> >  the paper. I removed all that was necessary and have the new piece ready
>
> > to go back up, but waiting to do that this afternoon after I finish  my
> > ironing.
> > Did a little research on my Sullivan's again  yesterday. I had some
> > conflicting information that I am trying to  sort out. Found there are a
> lot of
> > Sullivans named Michael in New  London County. I always thought mine was
> called
> > Mickey Owen, but  having received an obituary on Mickey Owen Sullivan,
> they
> > are not  the same person. Two years difference in their age and wife and
> >  children all different. what a mess. I know the wife of my Michael was
> named
> > Mary, because she was the sister of my Daniel Sullivan.
> > ---  In __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )  , earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Chilly this morning, 18,  some light snow tonight.
> > >
> > > Norma, I wear slippers  inside, more to keep my feet clean than the
> > floor. The dogs get  their feet cleaned when they come inside, they start
> barking
> > if we  forget because they get a treat afterwards but there's always sand
> >  between their toes that falls off when it dries up, the lab also has
> webbed
> > toes which hold a lot.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> >  >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "Norma"
> > > Sender: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 12:44:45
> > > To:
> >  > Reply-To: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > >
> > > 61 deg. this morning with rain in  the forecast for today and tomorrow.
> I
> > have enough inside jobs to  do, so that is ok for now. When the weather
> > clears, I can do the  outside work.
> > > Earline, I don't have any animals, and Geo. and I  do not wear shoes in
> > the house, so that cuts down on a lot of work,  wear and tear. When we
> lived
> > in Hawaii, we found out from the  locals, it is unsanitary to wear shoes
> in
> > the house (Japanese  custom) and we got into the habit of doing the same.
> We
> > put the  laminated flooring at the entrance way about ten years ago, for
> >  some reason, now that eludes me, because the tile would have been
> better. We
> > got water in under the door and did some damage to the laminate.  Since
> > then, we put in the new doors and solved that problem and now  I want to
> get rid
> > of the laminate and the entry way is large enough  that I think slate
> would
> > be the ideal solution, or tile that  resembles slate. Originally it was
> > carpeted, but we found that  people coming in with wet feet was ruining
> the
> > carpeting, so this  way, I don't have to worry what people track in on
> their
> > feet, plus  slate or slate tile would blend in with the color I have in
> the k
> >  itchen and going to put in the dining room. I have to get more boxes to
> > store my china and start packing up.
> > >
> > > ---  In __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )  , earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Norma, with the  dogs and sand they track in, my living/dining area
> is
> > the original  oak hardwood, some finish worn off and lots of dings and
> > scratches.  I won't do anything until the dogs are gone, they'll just
> ruin it.
> >  > >
> > > > This spring's diy project: I'm tiling 1/2 of  the unfinished part of
> > the basement that we use as a pantry. A  neighbour gave hubby some cases
> of
> > leftover floor tile (all  earthtones) from a few different jobs he had. I
> > just have to buy  grout.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sent on the  TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > > >
> > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: no2more@
> > >  > Sender: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 08:59:26
> > > > To:
> > > > Reply-To: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] January Weather and  Conversation
> > > >
> > > > We are back to normal  weather here for a few days before we get
> > another
> > >  > cold front. 55-60 at night and 75-80 during the day.
> > > >  I have to get ready to empty my china closet. We are going to cover
> >  the
> > > > floor with tile to match the kitchen, and while we  are at it I want
> to
> > put
> > > > slate at the entrance  way and hall. Now I have terrazzo floor with
> an
> > area
> > >  > rug in the dining room and the entrance way has imitation wood
> >  (laminate).
> > > > Hard to keep the carpeting in that room, as  it is a walk through
> from
> > the
> > > > front door to the  kitchen and computer room, unless we go through
> the
> > > >  living room which is inconvenient. I will have to box up everything
> so
> > they can
> > > > move the furniture out to make sure  they don't break anything. I
> hope
> > > > this will make for  easier cleaning. I may put an area rug down in
> the
> > future,
> >  > > but for now, I will leave it plain. Once we get that job done. it
> is
> > > > time to start replacing the carpeting in all the other  rooms. This
> > year
> > > > makes eighteen years it has  been down, and even though it doesn't
> look
> > bad, I
> > >  > can tell when I vacumn there are worn spots. Because it has a white
> > > > background, it gets shampooed at least once a year. I  would like to
> > put the
> > > > exact same thing down, if  they still make it. I has stood up well
> and
> > I love
> > >  > the light color. It's Berber.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 1/4/2013 7:55:37 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time,
> > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > >
> >  > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chilly  here, mid-20's, a bit breezy.
> > > >
> > > > I got  Christmas all packed up, just have to put it back in the
> closet
> >  > > today. I'm doing some spring cleaning, kitchen cupboards and
> shelves
> > for today.
> > > > I want to swap some of my  display items and rearrange stuff. I'm
> using
> > an
> > > >  Interstate Battery stand from the shop for my cookbooks and also my
> >  antique
> > > > cast iron bake-ware, I finally got around to  cleaning it up and
> > seasoning
> > > > it last week. I  bought it a few years ago at an auction.
> > > >
> > >  > I have to get in touch with the local museum and see if they want my
>
> > > > antique cradle. They have a quilt display, maybe they can  use it to
> > display some
> > > > crib quilts. It takes up  too much space.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

We are have summer weather, 60's at night and 80's during theday.  Sunny and
warm.
The date on the James Shuell and Elizabeth Fitzgerald is 1 Dec. 1860.
This is the marriage record for one mentioned in the letter "Giles":


Area - KERRY (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - KILTALLAGH

Marriage of WILLIAM SHEUL of CAHIRCIVEEN and ANNE GILES of TONEREIGH,KILTALLAGH
on 2 November 1858

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Husband

Wife



Name

WILLIAM SHEUL

ANNE GILES



Address

  CAHIRCIVEEN

TONEREIGH,KILTALLAGH



Occupation

  SHOPKEEPER

FARMER'S DAUGHTER



Father

  WALTER SHEUL

FRANCIS GILES



Mother

  N/R

N/R


Further details in the record




Recorded Diocesan Area

ARDFERT & AGHADOE



Recorded Parochial Area

KILTALLAGH



Priest

NR



Husband Age

23



Wife Age

26



Husband's Father's Occupation

FARMER



Wife's Father's Occupation

FARMER



Witness 1

FRANCIS GILES



Witness 2

JAMES NEILL


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KY-CI-MA-3263





--- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, earlinebradt@... wrote:
>
> Sunny today, low 40's, a little windy. The snow is slowly disappearing and
rain expected in the next few days should make for a muddy mess. Back to normal
next week.
>
> I've started working on getting my RM program updated, I've been
procrastinating doing it.
>
> I have a couple of weeks before I start on the branch newsletter again. I
started it right after the last meeting in Nov. while it was still fresh in my
memory. I don't have any submissions yet, they'll probably come in February
right before the deadline.
>
> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Norma"
> Sender: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:01:19
> To:
> Reply-To: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
>
> The townland in the letter is Killeenafinnane/Killenifane, it is located in:  
County Kerry, Barony of Trughanacmy, Civil Parish of Kiltallagh, PLU of Tralee
and Province of Munster.  317 acres in size.
>
> I found this guy as a possible relative: (I don't see the date, will have to
go back and get that - I must have cut it off)
>
>
> Name
>
>  JOHN SHUELL
>
> MARTHA FITZGERALD
>
> Address
>  CAHIRCIVEEN
> CAHIRCIVEEN
> Occupation
>  SERGEANT IN THE 10TH REGT
> SERVANT
> Father
>  JOHN SHUELL
> PATRICK FITZGERALD (father of bride)
> Mother
>
>  N/R
>
> N/R
> Further details in the record
> Recorded Diocesan Area
>
> ARDFERT & AGHADOE
> Recorded Parochial Area
> CAHIR
> Husband Age
> 27
> Husband Marital Status
> S
> Wife Age
> 23
> Wife Marital Status
> S
> Husband's Father's Occupation
> TRADESMAN
> Wife's Father's Occupation
> LABOURER
> Witness 1
> JAMES H EAGAR (WITNESS FOR HUSBAND)
> Witness 3
> WILLIAM EMMETT (WITNESS FOR WIFE)
> About the record
> Book Number
>
> Page
>
> Entry Number
>
> Record_Identifier
>
> Image Filename
>  N/R
>
> 9
>
> 17
>
> KY-CI-MA-1187
>
> k-71-3-1-009
>
>
> View the church register page containing this record.
>
>
> --- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, no2more@ wrote:
> >
> > All information helps.   I figure when I didn't find the O'Neils  in
> > Caherciveen/ Killarney it meant that I was probably looking in the wrong 
parish,
> > or possibly now, the wrong first name.  So many little townlands to  check
> > in Ireland.  There were no civil records, banned by the crown in the  early
> > years and also banned in the Church's, but many Priests recorded them
> > anyway, and kept hidden.  I find the Church records are only as good as the
> > Parish Priest and how he recorded them.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/8/2013 9:06:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > earlinebradt@ writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Norma, I figure that maybe if I give you accurate info you may have
> > more success. I have to add that Alexander O'Neil was not Catholic,
> > probably  going back to King James and the Catholic O'Neils that were
exiled.
> > O'Neil is  one of the oldest surnames in Ireland, from the time of St.
Patrick,
> > and the  first family to practise Christianity in Ireland. They were the
> > ruling family  until King James came along. The flag of Northern Ireland
still
> > has "the  bloody hand of O'Neill" on it. Just a bit of trivia...
> > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> >
> > ____________________________________
> > From: no2more@
> > Sender: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:47:28 -0500 (EST)
> > To:
> > ReplyTo: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok Earline, received all and am now digesting.  Will work on it  again this
> > afternoon.   I had to laugh at the expression in the  letter about mutton.
> >   I haven't heard lamb referred to as  mutton since back in the 40's or
> > 50's, when my father used to call it  that.   We don't get mutton today, as
I
> > understand it, mutton came  from old tough lambs, whereas today we get young
> > lamb's meat which is not  tough.
> > Anyway, something more to work with, will get back to you.
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/8/2013 7:44:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > earlinebradt@ writes:
> >
> >
> > I uploaded a copy of the letter from Ireland for you to read, I figure
> > it'll be easier than giving you misinformation from memory.
> >
> > --- In _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) ,  earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Norma, she may have been an  aunt, Eliza Shuel was born in Ireland about
> > 1820, parents, John Shuel and  Mary Langford, married James not John O'Neil,
> > my mistake, son of William?  (LDS Ancestral file) about 1848 in Detroit.
> > John Shuel died Jan. 27, 1854 in  Essex County.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility  network with BlackBerry
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >  From: no2more@
> > > Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > >  Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 18:12:18
> > > To:
> > > Reply-To: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > >  Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
> > >
> > > Earline, I am not having much luck with the O'Neil's in Caherciveen  or
> > > Killarney, but I did find an Elizabeth Shuell. Could this one be  yours?
> > >
> > > Baptism of ELIZABETH SHUELL of NR
> > >
> > >
> > > on 17 July 1807
> > >
> > > Parish/Church/Congregation -  KILCOLMAN
> > >
> > > Area - KERRY (COI)
> > >
> > >
> > > In  a message dated 1/7/2013 5:20:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > >  earlinebradt@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Norma,  she mentions Tralee as well. The letter was originally in Gaelic
> > but
> > > was translated to English.
> > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility  network with BlackBerry
> > >
> > >  ____________________________________
> > > From: no2more@
> > >  Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:36:49 -0500 (EST)
> > > To:
> > >  ReplyTo: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok Earline, we may be in  luck. Caherciveen is the same townland that my
> > > Sullivans come from  so have done a lot of looking in that area. I found
> > > that most of  the people were christened or baptised in the Church in
> > > Killarney.  The Church in Caherciveen was not built until after our dates.
> > > I'll  take a look later today and see what we may be able to find. Who
> > >  knows, some of your O'Neils may be married to my Sullivans?
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 1/7/2013 9:15:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > Norma, King  James drove most of the O'Neils out of Ireland or killed
> > them
> > > in  the 17th century so maybe it would be easier to find O'Neil families
> > that
> > > stayed behind.
> > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with  BlackBerry
> > >
> > > ____________________________________
> > >  From: earlinebradt@
> > > Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:08:03 -0000
> > > To:
> > > ReplyTo:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Norma, the most recent info  I have in Ireland is a letter I found online
> > > from 1858 from my 3rd  great-grandfather's sister Millie O'Neil Shuell,
> > > married to Walter.  in Caherciveen?, County Kerry to her brother
> > Alexander who
> > >  immigrated with my 3rd great-grandfather in the 1830's. My 3rd
> > >  great-grandfather, John, was married to Eliza Shuell about 1850 in
> > Ontario,  I assume she
> > > was Walter's sister. She died during childbirth in  1855 and he remarried
> > > twice before his death in Sandwich, Ontario.  Their son Edward J. O'Neil,
> > > born in 1855, was mayor of Sandwich for  a few years. My 2nd
> > great-grandfather,
> > > William, born in 1851, was  married to Viola Holden, my Crocket cousin
> > > line.
> > >
> > >  Sent from my BlackBerry® PlayBook™
> > > www.blackberry.com
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________________________________
> > > From:  "no2more@"
> > > To: "_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) "
> > > Sent: January 7, 2013 8:30 AM
> > > Subject: Re:  [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Earline, they have some new resources for searching in  Ireland now that
> > > does make it a little easier. O'Neil can't be any  worse then
> > > Sullivan/O'Sullivan. Do you have any idea what County or  townland they
> > came from?
> > > Give me a little background on your O'Neil  and I will see if I can find
> > > anything to get you started.
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 1/7/2013 7:38:38 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time,
> > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > Above  freezing today.
> > >
> > > Norma, I haven't done any research in  Ireland for my Irish ancestors. I
> > > imagine looking for the right  O'Neil family is near impossible.
> > >
> > > Sent on the TELUS  Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > >
> > >  ____________________________________
> > > From: "Norma"
> > > Sender:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 12:02:40 -0000
> > > To:
> > > ReplyTo:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 62 deg. this morning with  some sprinkles. Clearing and sunny the rest of
> > > the day.
> > > I  wear slippers in the winter, the floors are far too cold for bare
> > feet,
> > > but in the summer that same coolness is comforting to hot  feet.
> > > I did some wallpaper repair yesterday. When I had the man come  out to
> > > re-grout my shower in the master bath, he messed up the  wallpaper and
> > > fortunately I has extra left over that I had saved. A  little patching
> > here and there
> > > and it looks like new again. Thank  goodness it was only small areas.
> > (Just
> > > the area above the shower  tile to the ceiling.) In a few spots all I had
> > > to do was re-glue  the edges. Then I did the same in the Hall bath. In
> > > cleaning, I has  used some kind of cleaner on the back splash that left a
> > stain on
> > >  the paper. I removed all that was necessary and have the new piece ready
> >
> > > to go back up, but waiting to do that this afternoon after I finish  my
> > > ironing.
> > > Did a little research on my Sullivan's again  yesterday. I had some
> > > conflicting information that I am trying to  sort out. Found there are a
> > lot of
> > > Sullivans named Michael in New  London County. I always thought mine was
> > called
> > > Mickey Owen, but  having received an obituary on Mickey Owen Sullivan,
> > they
> > > are not  the same person. Two years difference in their age and wife and
> > >  children all different. what a mess. I know the wife of my Michael was
> > named
> > > Mary, because she was the sister of my Daniel Sullivan.
> > > ---  In __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )  , earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Chilly this morning, 18,  some light snow tonight.
> > > >
> > > > Norma, I wear slippers  inside, more to keep my feet clean than the
> > > floor. The dogs get  their feet cleaned when they come inside, they start
> > barking
> > > if we  forget because they get a treat afterwards but there's always sand
> > >  between their toes that falls off when it dries up, the lab also has
> > webbed
> > > toes which hold a lot.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > >  >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: "Norma"
> > > > Sender: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 12:44:45
> > > > To:
> > >  > Reply-To: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > >
> > > > 61 deg. this morning with rain in  the forecast for today and tomorrow.
> > I
> > > have enough inside jobs to  do, so that is ok for now. When the weather
> > > clears, I can do the  outside work.
> > > > Earline, I don't have any animals, and Geo. and I  do not wear shoes in
> > > the house, so that cuts down on a lot of work,  wear and tear. When we
> > lived
> > > in Hawaii, we found out from the  locals, it is unsanitary to wear shoes
> > in
> > > the house (Japanese  custom) and we got into the habit of doing the same.
> > We
> > > put the  laminated flooring at the entrance way about ten years ago, for
> > >  some reason, now that eludes me, because the tile would have been
> > better. We
> > > got water in under the door and did some damage to the laminate.  Since
> > > then, we put in the new doors and solved that problem and now  I want to
> > get rid
> > > of the laminate and the entry way is large enough  that I think slate
> > would
> > > be the ideal solution, or tile that  resembles slate. Originally it was
> > > carpeted, but we found that  people coming in with wet feet was ruining
> > the
> > > carpeting, so this  way, I don't have to worry what people track in on
> > their
> > > feet, plus  slate or slate tile would blend in with the color I have in
> > the k
> > >  itchen and going to put in the dining room. I have to get more boxes to
> > > store my china and start packing up.
> > > >
> > > > ---  In __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )  , earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Norma, with the  dogs and sand they track in, my living/dining area
> > is
> > > the original  oak hardwood, some finish worn off and lots of dings and
> > > scratches.  I won't do anything until the dogs are gone, they'll just
> > ruin it.
> > >  > >
> > > > > This spring's diy project: I'm tiling 1/2 of  the unfinished part of
> > > the basement that we use as a pantry. A  neighbour gave hubby some cases
> > of
> > > leftover floor tile (all  earthtones) from a few different jobs he had. I
> > > just have to buy  grout.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent on the  TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > > > >
> > > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: no2more@
> > > >  > Sender: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 08:59:26
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Reply-To: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] January Weather and  Conversation
> > > > >
> > > > > We are back to normal  weather here for a few days before we get
> > > another
> > > >  > cold front. 55-60 at night and 75-80 during the day.
> > > > >  I have to get ready to empty my china closet. We are going to cover
> > >  the
> > > > > floor with tile to match the kitchen, and while we  are at it I want
> > to
> > > put
> > > > > slate at the entrance  way and hall. Now I have terrazzo floor with
> > an
> > > area
> > > >  > rug in the dining room and the entrance way has imitation wood
> > >  (laminate).
> > > > > Hard to keep the carpeting in that room, as  it is a walk through
> > from
> > > the
> > > > > front door to the  kitchen and computer room, unless we go through
> > the
> > > > >  living room which is inconvenient. I will have to box up everything
> > so
> > > they can
> > > > > move the furniture out to make sure  they don't break anything. I
> > hope
> > > > > this will make for  easier cleaning. I may put an area rug down in
> > the
> > > future,
> > >  > > but for now, I will leave it plain. Once we get that job done. it
> > is
> > > > > time to start replacing the carpeting in all the other  rooms. This
> > > year
> > > > > makes eighteen years it has  been down, and even though it doesn't
> > look
> > > bad, I
> > > >  > can tell when I vacumn there are worn spots. Because it has a white
> > > > > background, it gets shampooed at least once a year. I  would like to
> > > put the
> > > > > exact same thing down, if  they still make it. I has stood up well
> > and
> > > I love
> > > >  > the light color. It's Berber.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 1/4/2013 7:55:37 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time,
> > > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > > >
> > >  > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Chilly  here, mid-20's, a bit breezy.
> > > > >
> > > > > I got  Christmas all packed up, just have to put it back in the
> > closet
> > >  > > today. I'm doing some spring cleaning, kitchen cupboards and
> > shelves
> > > for today.
> > > > > I want to swap some of my  display items and rearrange stuff. I'm
> > using
> > > an
> > > > >  Interstate Battery stand from the shop for my cookbooks and also my
> > >  antique
> > > > > cast iron bake-ware, I finally got around to  cleaning it up and
> > > seasoning
> > > > > it last week. I  bought it a few years ago at an auction.
> > > > >
> > > >  > I have to get in touch with the local museum and see if they want my
> >
> > > > > antique cradle. They have a quilt display, maybe they can  use it to
> > > display some
> > > > > crib quilts. It takes up  too much space.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

This is another one that I feel is related because of the location.  Uncle or
sibling:

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Area - KERRY (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - KILTALLAGH

Marriage of CHARLES O'NEIL of KILLENIFINANE and CATHERINE O'NEIL of
KILLEENIFINANE on 9 November 1882
Location




Name

  CHARLES O'NEIL

CATHERINE O'NEIL

Address

  KILLENIFINANE

KILLEENIFINANE
Occupation

  FARMER
FARMER'S DAUGHTER

Father

  JAMES R.I.P. O'NEIL

JOHN R.I.P. O'NEIL
Mother

  N/R

N/R

Recorded Diocesan Area

ARDFERT & AGHADOE
Recorded Parochial Area

KILTALLAGH

Priest

NR
Husband Age

33
wife Age
23

Husband's Father's Occupation

FARMER

Wife's Father's Occupation

FARMER



Witness 1

JOHN NEILL

Witness 2

JAMES DAY


About the record




Book Number

Page

Entry Number

Record_Identifier



  5

15

N/R

KY-CI-MA-3274

Also this one:



Area - KERRY (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - AGHADOE

Marriage of WILLIAM WHARTON of TULLYHYIUE and MARGARET NEILL of DROMKERRIE on 25
February 1869

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Name


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Datee.g. 13/08/1710


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Husband

Wife



Name

  WILLIAM WHARTON

MARGARET NEILL



Address

  TULLYHYIUE

DROMKERRIE



Occupation

  FARMER

NONE GIVEN



Father

  WILLIAM WHARTON

JAMES NEILL



Mother

  N/R

N/R


Further details in the record




Recorded Diocesan Area

ARDFERT & AGHADOE



Recorded Parochial Area

AGHADOE



Priest

JOHN MURPHY



Husband Age

27



Wife Age

20



Husband's Father's Occupation

FARMER



Wife's Father's Occupation

FARMER



Witness 1

THOMAS B. TALBOT



Witness 2

ROBERT GILES


About the record




Book Number

Page

Entry Number

Record_Identifier



  4

11

N/R

KY-
Nothing on your James but I feel from what Ihave found that they are all located
in that one area.



--- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, "Norma"  wrote:
>
> We are have summer weather, 60's at night and 80's during theday.  Sunny and
warm.
> The date on the James Shuell and Elizabeth Fitzgerald is 1 Dec. 1860.
> This is the marriage record for one mentioned in the letter "Giles":
>
>
> Area - KERRY (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - KILTALLAGH
>
> Marriage of WILLIAM SHEUL of CAHIRCIVEEN and ANNE GILES of
TONEREIGH,KILTALLAGH on 2 November 1858
>
> Back to search results
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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> Datee.g. 13/08/1710
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>
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>
>
>
>
> Husband
>
> Wife
>
>
>
> Name
>
> WILLIAM SHEUL
>
> ANNE GILES
>
>
>
> Address
>
>  CAHIRCIVEEN
>
> TONEREIGH,KILTALLAGH
>
>
>
> Occupation
>
>  SHOPKEEPER
>
> FARMER'S DAUGHTER
>
>
>
> Father
>
>  WALTER SHEUL
>
> FRANCIS GILES
>
>
>
> Mother
>
>  N/R
>
> N/R
>
>
> Further details in the record
>
>
>
>
> Recorded Diocesan Area
>
> ARDFERT & AGHADOE
>
>
>
> Recorded Parochial Area
>
> KILTALLAGH
>
>
>
> Priest
>
> NR
>
>
>
> Husband Age
>
> 23
>
>
>
> Wife Age
>
> 26
>
>
>
> Husband's Father's Occupation
>
> FARMER
>
>
>
> Wife's Father's Occupation
>
> FARMER
>
>
>
> Witness 1
>
> FRANCIS GILES
>
>
>
> Witness 2
>
> JAMES NEILL
>
>
> About the record
>
>
>
>
> Book Number
>
> Page
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> Entry Number
>
> Record_Identifier
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>  5
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> 9
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> N/R
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> KY-CI-MA-3263
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, earlinebradt@ wrote:
> >
> > Sunny today, low 40's, a little windy. The snow is slowly disappearing and
rain expected in the next few days should make for a muddy mess. Back to normal
next week.
> >
> > I've started working on getting my RM program updated, I've been
procrastinating doing it.
> >
> > I have a couple of weeks before I start on the branch newsletter again. I
started it right after the last meeting in Nov. while it was still fresh in my
memory. I don't have any submissions yet, they'll probably come in February
right before the deadline.
> >
> > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Norma"
> > Sender: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:01:19
> > To:
> > Reply-To: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
> >
> > The townland in the letter is Killeenafinnane/Killenifane, it is located in:
County Kerry, Barony of Trughanacmy, Civil Parish of Kiltallagh, PLU of Tralee
and Province of Munster.  317 acres in size.
> >
> > I found this guy as a possible relative: (I don't see the date, will have to
go back and get that - I must have cut it off)
> >
> >
> > Name
> >
> >  JOHN SHUELL
> >
> > MARTHA FITZGERALD
> >
> > Address
> >  CAHIRCIVEEN
> > CAHIRCIVEEN
> > Occupation
> >  SERGEANT IN THE 10TH REGT
> > SERVANT
> > Father
> >  JOHN SHUELL
> > PATRICK FITZGERALD (father of bride)
> > Mother
> >
> >  N/R
> >
> > N/R
> > Further details in the record
> > Recorded Diocesan Area
> >
> > ARDFERT & AGHADOE
> > Recorded Parochial Area
> > CAHIR
> > Husband Age
> > 27
> > Husband Marital Status
> > S
> > Wife Age
> > 23
> > Wife Marital Status
> > S
> > Husband's Father's Occupation
> > TRADESMAN
> > Wife's Father's Occupation
> > LABOURER
> > Witness 1
> > JAMES H EAGAR (WITNESS FOR HUSBAND)
> > Witness 3
> > WILLIAM EMMETT (WITNESS FOR WIFE)
> > About the record
> > Book Number
> >
> > Page
> >
> > Entry Number
> >
> > Record_Identifier
> >
> > Image Filename
> >  N/R
> >
> > 9
> >
> > 17
> >
> > KY-CI-MA-1187
> >
> > k-71-3-1-009
> >
> >
> > View the church register page containing this record.
> >
> >
> > --- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, no2more@ wrote:
> > >
> > > All information helps.   I figure when I didn't find the O'Neils  in
> > > Caherciveen/ Killarney it meant that I was probably looking in the wrong 
parish,
> > > or possibly now, the wrong first name.  So many little townlands to  check
> > > in Ireland.  There were no civil records, banned by the crown in the 
early
> > > years and also banned in the Church's, but many Priests recorded them
> > > anyway, and kept hidden.  I find the Church records are only as good as
the
> > > Parish Priest and how he recorded them.
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 1/8/2013 9:06:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Norma, I figure that maybe if I give you accurate info you may have
> > > more success. I have to add that Alexander O'Neil was not Catholic,
> > > probably  going back to King James and the Catholic O'Neils that were
exiled.
> > > O'Neil is  one of the oldest surnames in Ireland, from the time of St.
Patrick,
> > > and the  first family to practise Christianity in Ireland. They were the
> > > ruling family  until King James came along. The flag of Northern Ireland
still
> > > has "the  bloody hand of O'Neill" on it. Just a bit of trivia...
> > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > >
> > > ____________________________________
> > > From: no2more@
> > > Sender: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:47:28 -0500 (EST)
> > > To:
> > > ReplyTo: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok Earline, received all and am now digesting.  Will work on it  again
this
> > > afternoon.   I had to laugh at the expression in the  letter about mutton.
> > >   I haven't heard lamb referred to as  mutton since back in the 40's or
> > > 50's, when my father used to call it  that.   We don't get mutton today,
as I
> > > understand it, mutton came  from old tough lambs, whereas today we get
young
> > > lamb's meat which is not  tough.
> > > Anyway, something more to work with, will get back to you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 1/8/2013 7:44:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > I uploaded a copy of the letter from Ireland for you to read, I figure
> > > it'll be easier than giving you misinformation from memory.
> > >
> > > --- In _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) ,  earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Norma, she may have been an  aunt, Eliza Shuel was born in Ireland about
> > > 1820, parents, John Shuel and  Mary Langford, married James not John
O'Neil,
> > > my mistake, son of William?  (LDS Ancestral file) about 1848 in Detroit.
> > > John Shuel died Jan. 27, 1854 in  Essex County.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility  network with BlackBerry
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >  From: no2more@
> > > > Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > >  Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 18:12:18
> > > > To:
> > > > Reply-To: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > >  Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
> > > >
> > > > Earline, I am not having much luck with the O'Neil's in Caherciveen  or
> > > > Killarney, but I did find an Elizabeth Shuell. Could this one be  yours?
> > > >
> > > > Baptism of ELIZABETH SHUELL of NR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > on 17 July 1807
> > > >
> > > > Parish/Church/Congregation -  KILCOLMAN
> > > >
> > > > Area - KERRY (COI)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In  a message dated 1/7/2013 5:20:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > >  earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Norma,  she mentions Tralee as well. The letter was originally in Gaelic
> > > but
> > > > was translated to English.
> > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility  network with BlackBerry
> > > >
> > > >  ____________________________________
> > > > From: no2more@
> > > >  Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:36:49 -0500 (EST)
> > > > To:
> > > >  ReplyTo: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ok Earline, we may be in  luck. Caherciveen is the same townland that my
> > > > Sullivans come from  so have done a lot of looking in that area. I found
> > > > that most of  the people were christened or baptised in the Church in
> > > > Killarney.  The Church in Caherciveen was not built until after our
dates.
> > > > I'll  take a look later today and see what we may be able to find. Who
> > > >  knows, some of your O'Neils may be married to my Sullivans?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 1/7/2013 9:15:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Norma, King  James drove most of the O'Neils out of Ireland or killed
> > > them
> > > > in  the 17th century so maybe it would be easier to find O'Neil families
> > > that
> > > > stayed behind.
> > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with  BlackBerry
> > > >
> > > > ____________________________________
> > > >  From: earlinebradt@
> > > > Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:08:03 -0000
> > > > To:
> > > > ReplyTo:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Norma, the most recent info  I have in Ireland is a letter I found
online
> > > > from 1858 from my 3rd  great-grandfather's sister Millie O'Neil Shuell,
> > > > married to Walter.  in Caherciveen?, County Kerry to her brother
> > > Alexander who
> > > >  immigrated with my 3rd great-grandfather in the 1830's. My 3rd
> > > >  great-grandfather, John, was married to Eliza Shuell about 1850 in
> > > Ontario,  I assume she
> > > > was Walter's sister. She died during childbirth in  1855 and he
remarried
> > > > twice before his death in Sandwich, Ontario.  Their son Edward J.
O'Neil,
> > > > born in 1855, was mayor of Sandwich for  a few years. My 2nd
> > > great-grandfather,
> > > > William, born in 1851, was  married to Viola Holden, my Crocket cousin
> > > > line.
> > > >
> > > >  Sent from my BlackBerry® PlayBook™
> > > > www.blackberry.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________________________________
> > > > From:  "no2more@"
> > > > To: "_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) "
> > > > Sent: January 7, 2013 8:30 AM
> > > > Subject: Re:  [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Earline, they have some new resources for searching in  Ireland now that
> > > > does make it a little easier. O'Neil can't be any  worse then
> > > > Sullivan/O'Sullivan. Do you have any idea what County or  townland they
> > > came from?
> > > > Give me a little background on your O'Neil  and I will see if I can find
> > > > anything to get you started.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 1/7/2013 7:38:38 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time,
> > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Above  freezing today.
> > > >
> > > > Norma, I haven't done any research in  Ireland for my Irish ancestors. I
> > > > imagine looking for the right  O'Neil family is near impossible.
> > > >
> > > > Sent on the TELUS  Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > > >
> > > >  ____________________________________
> > > > From: "Norma"
> > > > Sender:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 12:02:40 -0000
> > > > To:
> > > > ReplyTo:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 62 deg. this morning with  some sprinkles. Clearing and sunny the rest
of
> > > > the day.
> > > > I  wear slippers in the winter, the floors are far too cold for bare
> > > feet,
> > > > but in the summer that same coolness is comforting to hot  feet.
> > > > I did some wallpaper repair yesterday. When I had the man come  out to
> > > > re-grout my shower in the master bath, he messed up the  wallpaper and
> > > > fortunately I has extra left over that I had saved. A  little patching
> > > here and there
> > > > and it looks like new again. Thank  goodness it was only small areas.
> > > (Just
> > > > the area above the shower  tile to the ceiling.) In a few spots all I
had
> > > > to do was re-glue  the edges. Then I did the same in the Hall bath. In
> > > > cleaning, I has  used some kind of cleaner on the back splash that left
a
> > > stain on
> > > >  the paper. I removed all that was necessary and have the new piece
ready
> > >
> > > > to go back up, but waiting to do that this afternoon after I finish  my
> > > > ironing.
> > > > Did a little research on my Sullivan's again  yesterday. I had some
> > > > conflicting information that I am trying to  sort out. Found there are a
> > > lot of
> > > > Sullivans named Michael in New  London County. I always thought mine was
> > > called
> > > > Mickey Owen, but  having received an obituary on Mickey Owen Sullivan,
> > > they
> > > > are not  the same person. Two years difference in their age and wife and
> > > >  children all different. what a mess. I know the wife of my Michael was
> > > named
> > > > Mary, because she was the sister of my Daniel Sullivan.
> > > > ---  In __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )  , earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Chilly this morning, 18,  some light snow tonight.
> > > > >
> > > > > Norma, I wear slippers  inside, more to keep my feet clean than the
> > > > floor. The dogs get  their feet cleaned when they come inside, they
start
> > > barking
> > > > if we  forget because they get a treat afterwards but there's always
sand
> > > >  between their toes that falls off when it dries up, the lab also has
> > > webbed
> > > > toes which hold a lot.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > > >  >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: "Norma"
> > > > > Sender: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > > Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 12:44:45
> > > > > To:
> > > >  > Reply-To: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > > Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > > >
> > > > > 61 deg. this morning with rain in  the forecast for today and
tomorrow.
> > > I
> > > > have enough inside jobs to  do, so that is ok for now. When the weather
> > > > clears, I can do the  outside work.
> > > > > Earline, I don't have any animals, and Geo. and I  do not wear shoes
in
> > > > the house, so that cuts down on a lot of work,  wear and tear. When we
> > > lived
> > > > in Hawaii, we found out from the  locals, it is unsanitary to wear shoes
> > > in
> > > > the house (Japanese  custom) and we got into the habit of doing the
same.
> > > We
> > > > put the  laminated flooring at the entrance way about ten years ago, for
> > > >  some reason, now that eludes me, because the tile would have been
> > > better. We
> > > > got water in under the door and did some damage to the laminate.  Since
> > > > then, we put in the new doors and solved that problem and now  I want to
> > > get rid
> > > > of the laminate and the entry way is large enough  that I think slate
> > > would
> > > > be the ideal solution, or tile that  resembles slate. Originally it was
> > > > carpeted, but we found that  people coming in with wet feet was ruining
> > > the
> > > > carpeting, so this  way, I don't have to worry what people track in on
> > > their
> > > > feet, plus  slate or slate tile would blend in with the color I have in
> > > the k
> > > >  itchen and going to put in the dining room. I have to get more boxes to
> > > > store my china and start packing up.
> > > > >
> > > > > ---  In __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )  , earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Norma, with the  dogs and sand they track in, my living/dining area
> > > is
> > > > the original  oak hardwood, some finish worn off and lots of dings and
> > > > scratches.  I won't do anything until the dogs are gone, they'll just
> > > ruin it.
> > > >  > >
> > > > > > This spring's diy project: I'm tiling 1/2 of  the unfinished part of
> > > > the basement that we use as a pantry. A  neighbour gave hubby some cases
> > > of
> > > > leftover floor tile (all  earthtones) from a few different jobs he had.
I
> > > > just have to buy  grout.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent on the  TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: no2more@
> > > > >  > Sender: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 08:59:26
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Reply-To: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] January Weather and  Conversation
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are back to normal  weather here for a few days before we get
> > > > another
> > > > >  > cold front. 55-60 at night and 75-80 during the day.
> > > > > >  I have to get ready to empty my china closet. We are going to cover
> > > >  the
> > > > > > floor with tile to match the kitchen, and while we  are at it I want
> > > to
> > > > put
> > > > > > slate at the entrance  way and hall. Now I have terrazzo floor with
> > > an
> > > > area
> > > > >  > rug in the dining room and the entrance way has imitation wood
> > > >  (laminate).
> > > > > > Hard to keep the carpeting in that room, as  it is a walk through
> > > from
> > > > the
> > > > > > front door to the  kitchen and computer room, unless we go through
> > > the
> > > > > >  living room which is inconvenient. I will have to box up everything
> > > so
> > > > they can
> > > > > > move the furniture out to make sure  they don't break anything. I
> > > hope
> > > > > > this will make for  easier cleaning. I may put an area rug down in
> > > the
> > > > future,
> > > >  > > but for now, I will leave it plain. Once we get that job done. it
> > > is
> > > > > > time to start replacing the carpeting in all the other  rooms. This
> > > > year
> > > > > > makes eighteen years it has  been down, and even though it doesn't
> > > look
> > > > bad, I
> > > > >  > can tell when I vacumn there are worn spots. Because it has a white
> > > > > > background, it gets shampooed at least once a year. I  would like to
> > > > put the
> > > > > > exact same thing down, if  they still make it. I has stood up well
> > > and
> > > > I love
> > > > >  > the light color. It's Berber.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 1/4/2013 7:55:37 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time,
> > > > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > > > >
> > > >  > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chilly  here, mid-20's, a bit breezy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I got  Christmas all packed up, just have to put it back in the
> > > closet
> > > >  > > today. I'm doing some spring cleaning, kitchen cupboards and
> > > shelves
> > > > for today.
> > > > > > I want to swap some of my  display items and rearrange stuff. I'm
> > > using
> > > > an
> > > > > >  Interstate Battery stand from the shop for my cookbooks and also my
> > > >  antique
> > > > > > cast iron bake-ware, I finally got around to  cleaning it up and
> > > > seasoning
> > > > > > it last week. I  bought it a few years ago at an auction.
> > > > > >
> > > > >  > I have to get in touch with the local museum and see if they want
my
> > >
> > > > > > antique cradle. They have a quilt display, maybe they can  use it to
> > > > display some
> > > > > > crib quilts. It takes up  too much space.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Earline - this is the Url for the site where I found all that information:
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/
I was unable to get any information entering the first and last names, but by
using just the last name, I found many results and just eliminated those that
were not in Kerry.

--- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, earlinebradt@... wrote:
>
> Norma you have been busy. I've been looking through my research to find any
more information.
>
> There are a few local history books that I'm checking out, one is online.
There are quite a few associated families of mine in it.
> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Norma"
> Sender: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:10:36
> To:
> Reply-To: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
>
> This is another one that I feel is related because of the location.  Uncle or
sibling:
>
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> Area - KERRY (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - KILTALLAGH
>
> Marriage of CHARLES O'NEIL of KILLENIFINANE and CATHERINE O'NEIL of
KILLEENIFINANE on 9 November 1882
> Location
>
>
>
>
> Name
>
>  CHARLES O'NEIL
>
> CATHERINE O'NEIL
>
> Address
>
>  KILLENIFINANE
>
> KILLEENIFINANE
> Occupation
>
>  FARMER
> FARMER'S DAUGHTER
>
> Father
>
>  JAMES R.I.P. O'NEIL
>
> JOHN R.I.P. O'NEIL
> Mother
>
>  N/R
>
> N/R
>
> Recorded Diocesan Area
>
> ARDFERT & AGHADOE
> Recorded Parochial Area
>
> KILTALLAGH
>
> Priest
>
> NR
> Husband Age
>
> 33
> wife Age
> 23
>
> Husband's Father's Occupation
>
> FARMER
>
> Wife's Father's Occupation
>
> FARMER
>
>
>
> Witness 1
>
> JOHN NEILL
>
> Witness 2
>
> JAMES DAY
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>  5
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> 15
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>
> KY-CI-MA-3274
>
> Also this one:
>
>
>
> Area - KERRY (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - AGHADOE
>
> Marriage of WILLIAM WHARTON of TULLYHYIUE and MARGARET NEILL of DROMKERRIE on
25 February 1869
>
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>
>  TULLYHYIUE
>
> DROMKERRIE
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> Occupation
>
>  FARMER
>
> NONE GIVEN
>
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> Father
>
>  WILLIAM WHARTON
>
> JAMES NEILL
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> AGHADOE
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> JOHN MURPHY
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> 27
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> 20
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> FARMER
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> FARMER
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> Witness 1
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> THOMAS B. TALBOT
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> ROBERT GILES
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>  4
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> 11
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> KY-
> Nothing on your James but I feel from what Ihave found that they are all
located in that one area.
>
>
>
> --- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, "Norma"  wrote:
> >
> > We are have summer weather, 60's at night and 80's during theday.  Sunny and
warm.
> > The date on the James Shuell and Elizabeth Fitzgerald is 1 Dec. 1860.
> > This is the marriage record for one mentioned in the letter "Giles":
> >
> >
> > Area - KERRY (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - KILTALLAGH
> >
> > Marriage of WILLIAM SHEUL of CAHIRCIVEEN and ANNE GILES of
TONEREIGH,KILTALLAGH on 2 November 1858
> >
> > Back to search results
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> > TONEREIGH,KILTALLAGH
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >  SHOPKEEPER
> >
> > FARMER'S DAUGHTER
> >
> >
> >
> > Father
> >
> >  WALTER SHEUL
> >
> > FRANCIS GILES
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >  N/R
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> > Witness 1
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> > FRANCIS GILES
> >
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> >
> > JAMES NEILL
> >
> >
> > About the record
> >
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> >
> > Record_Identifier
> >
> >
> >
> >  5
> >
> > 9
> >
> > N/R
> >
> > KY-CI-MA-3263
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Sunny today, low 40's, a little windy. The snow is slowly disappearing and
rain expected in the next few days should make for a muddy mess. Back to normal
next week.
> > >
> > > I've started working on getting my RM program updated, I've been
procrastinating doing it.
> > >
> > > I have a couple of weeks before I start on the branch newsletter again. I
started it right after the last meeting in Nov. while it was still fresh in my
memory. I don't have any submissions yet, they'll probably come in February
right before the deadline.
> > >
> > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "Norma"
> > > Sender: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:01:19
> > > To:
> > > Reply-To: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
> > >
> > > The townland in the letter is Killeenafinnane/Killenifane, it is located
in:   County Kerry, Barony of Trughanacmy, Civil Parish of Kiltallagh, PLU of
Tralee and Province of Munster.  317 acres in size.
> > >
> > > I found this guy as a possible relative: (I don't see the date, will have
to go back and get that - I must have cut it off)
> > >
> > >
> > > Name
> > >
> > >  JOHN SHUELL
> > >
> > > MARTHA FITZGERALD
> > >
> > > Address
> > >  CAHIRCIVEEN
> > > CAHIRCIVEEN
> > > Occupation
> > >  SERGEANT IN THE 10TH REGT
> > > SERVANT
> > > Father
> > >  JOHN SHUELL
> > > PATRICK FITZGERALD (father of bride)
> > > Mother
> > >
> > >  N/R
> > >
> > > N/R
> > > Further details in the record
> > > Recorded Diocesan Area
> > >
> > > ARDFERT & AGHADOE
> > > Recorded Parochial Area
> > > CAHIR
> > > Husband Age
> > > 27
> > > Husband Marital Status
> > > S
> > > Wife Age
> > > 23
> > > Wife Marital Status
> > > S
> > > Husband's Father's Occupation
> > > TRADESMAN
> > > Wife's Father's Occupation
> > > LABOURER
> > > Witness 1
> > > JAMES H EAGAR (WITNESS FOR HUSBAND)
> > > Witness 3
> > > WILLIAM EMMETT (WITNESS FOR WIFE)
> > > About the record
> > > Book Number
> > >
> > > Page
> > >
> > > Entry Number
> > >
> > > Record_Identifier
> > >
> > > Image Filename
> > >  N/R
> > >
> > > 9
> > >
> > > 17
> > >
> > > KY-CI-MA-1187
> > >
> > > k-71-3-1-009
> > >
> > >
> > > View the church register page containing this record.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, no2more@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All information helps.   I figure when I didn't find the O'Neils  in
> > > > Caherciveen/ Killarney it meant that I was probably looking in the wrong
parish,
> > > > or possibly now, the wrong first name.  So many little townlands to 
check
> > > > in Ireland.  There were no civil records, banned by the crown in the 
early
> > > > years and also banned in the Church's, but many Priests recorded them
> > > > anyway, and kept hidden.  I find the Church records are only as good as
the
> > > > Parish Priest and how he recorded them.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 1/8/2013 9:06:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Norma, I figure that maybe if I give you accurate info you may
have
> > > > more success. I have to add that Alexander O'Neil was not Catholic,
> > > > probably  going back to King James and the Catholic O'Neils that were
exiled.
> > > > O'Neil is  one of the oldest surnames in Ireland, from the time of St.
Patrick,
> > > > and the  first family to practise Christianity in Ireland. They were the
> > > > ruling family  until King James came along. The flag of Northern Ireland
still
> > > > has "the  bloody hand of O'Neill" on it. Just a bit of trivia...
> > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > > >
> > > > ____________________________________
> > > > From: no2more@
> > > > Sender: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:47:28 -0500 (EST)
> > > > To:
> > > > ReplyTo: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ok Earline, received all and am now digesting.  Will work on it  again
this
> > > > afternoon.   I had to laugh at the expression in the  letter about
mutton.
> > > >   I haven't heard lamb referred to as  mutton since back in the 40's or
> > > > 50's, when my father used to call it  that.   We don't get mutton today,
as I
> > > > understand it, mutton came  from old tough lambs, whereas today we get
young
> > > > lamb's meat which is not  tough.
> > > > Anyway, something more to work with, will get back to you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 1/8/2013 7:44:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I uploaded a copy of the letter from Ireland for you to read, I figure
> > > > it'll be easier than giving you misinformation from memory.
> > > >
> > > > --- In _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) ,  earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Norma, she may have been an  aunt, Eliza Shuel was born in Ireland
about
> > > > 1820, parents, John Shuel and  Mary Langford, married James not John
O'Neil,
> > > > my mistake, son of William?  (LDS Ancestral file) about 1848 in Detroit.
> > > > John Shuel died Jan. 27, 1854 in  Essex County.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility  network with BlackBerry
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >  From: no2more@
> > > > > Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > >  Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 18:12:18
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Reply-To: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > >  Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
> > > > >
> > > > > Earline, I am not having much luck with the O'Neil's in Caherciveen 
or
> > > > > Killarney, but I did find an Elizabeth Shuell. Could this one be 
yours?
> > > > >
> > > > > Baptism of ELIZABETH SHUELL of NR
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > on 17 July 1807
> > > > >
> > > > > Parish/Church/Congregation -  KILCOLMAN
> > > > >
> > > > > Area - KERRY (COI)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In  a message dated 1/7/2013 5:20:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > >  earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Norma,  she mentions Tralee as well. The letter was originally in
Gaelic
> > > > but
> > > > > was translated to English.
> > > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility  network with BlackBerry
> > > > >
> > > > >  ____________________________________
> > > > > From: no2more@
> > > > >  Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:36:49 -0500 (EST)
> > > > > To:
> > > > >  ReplyTo: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok Earline, we may be in  luck. Caherciveen is the same townland that
my
> > > > > Sullivans come from  so have done a lot of looking in that area. I
found
> > > > > that most of  the people were christened or baptised in the Church in
> > > > > Killarney.  The Church in Caherciveen was not built until after our
dates.
> > > > > I'll  take a look later today and see what we may be able to find. Who
> > > > >  knows, some of your O'Neils may be married to my Sullivans?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 1/7/2013 9:15:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Norma, King  James drove most of the O'Neils out of Ireland or killed
> > > > them
> > > > > in  the 17th century so maybe it would be easier to find O'Neil
families
> > > > that
> > > > > stayed behind.
> > > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with  BlackBerry
> > > > >
> > > > > ____________________________________
> > > > >  From: earlinebradt@
> > > > > Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:08:03 -0000
> > > > > To:
> > > > > ReplyTo:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Norma, the most recent info  I have in Ireland is a letter I found
online
> > > > > from 1858 from my 3rd  great-grandfather's sister Millie O'Neil
Shuell,
> > > > > married to Walter.  in Caherciveen?, County Kerry to her brother
> > > > Alexander who
> > > > >  immigrated with my 3rd great-grandfather in the 1830's. My 3rd
> > > > >  great-grandfather, John, was married to Eliza Shuell about 1850 in
> > > > Ontario,  I assume she
> > > > > was Walter's sister. She died during childbirth in  1855 and he
remarried
> > > > > twice before his death in Sandwich, Ontario.  Their son Edward J.
O'Neil,
> > > > > born in 1855, was mayor of Sandwich for  a few years. My 2nd
> > > > great-grandfather,
> > > > > William, born in 1851, was  married to Viola Holden, my Crocket cousin
> > > > > line.
> > > > >
> > > > >  Sent from my BlackBerry® PlayBook™
> > > > > www.blackberry.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ____________________________________
> > > > > From:  "no2more@"
> > > > > To: "_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) "
> > > > > Sent: January 7, 2013 8:30 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re:  [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Earline, they have some new resources for searching in  Ireland now
that
> > > > > does make it a little easier. O'Neil can't be any  worse then
> > > > > Sullivan/O'Sullivan. Do you have any idea what County or  townland
they
> > > > came from?
> > > > > Give me a little background on your O'Neil  and I will see if I can
find
> > > > > anything to get you started.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 1/7/2013 7:38:38 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time,
> > > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Above  freezing today.
> > > > >
> > > > > Norma, I haven't done any research in  Ireland for my Irish ancestors.
I
> > > > > imagine looking for the right  O'Neil family is near impossible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent on the TELUS  Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > > > >
> > > > >  ____________________________________
> > > > > From: "Norma"
> > > > > Sender:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 12:02:40 -0000
> > > > > To:
> > > > > ReplyTo:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > > Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 62 deg. this morning with  some sprinkles. Clearing and sunny the rest
of
> > > > > the day.
> > > > > I  wear slippers in the winter, the floors are far too cold for bare
> > > > feet,
> > > > > but in the summer that same coolness is comforting to hot  feet.
> > > > > I did some wallpaper repair yesterday. When I had the man come  out to
> > > > > re-grout my shower in the master bath, he messed up the  wallpaper and
> > > > > fortunately I has extra left over that I had saved. A  little patching
> > > > here and there
> > > > > and it looks like new again. Thank  goodness it was only small areas.
> > > > (Just
> > > > > the area above the shower  tile to the ceiling.) In a few spots all I
had
> > > > > to do was re-glue  the edges. Then I did the same in the Hall bath. In
> > > > > cleaning, I has  used some kind of cleaner on the back splash that
left a
> > > > stain on
> > > > >  the paper. I removed all that was necessary and have the new piece
ready
> > > >
> > > > > to go back up, but waiting to do that this afternoon after I finish 
my
> > > > > ironing.
> > > > > Did a little research on my Sullivan's again  yesterday. I had some
> > > > > conflicting information that I am trying to  sort out. Found there are
a
> > > > lot of
> > > > > Sullivans named Michael in New  London County. I always thought mine
was
> > > > called
> > > > > Mickey Owen, but  having received an obituary on Mickey Owen Sullivan,
> > > > they
> > > > > are not  the same person. Two years difference in their age and wife
and
> > > > >  children all different. what a mess. I know the wife of my Michael
was
> > > > named
> > > > > Mary, because she was the sister of my Daniel Sullivan.
> > > > > ---  In __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )  , earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chilly this morning, 18,  some light snow tonight.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Norma, I wear slippers  inside, more to keep my feet clean than the
> > > > > floor. The dogs get  their feet cleaned when they come inside, they
start
> > > > barking
> > > > > if we  forget because they get a treat afterwards but there's always
sand
> > > > >  between their toes that falls off when it dries up, the lab also has
> > > > webbed
> > > > > toes which hold a lot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > > > >  >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: "Norma"
> > > > > > Sender: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > > > Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 12:44:45
> > > > > > To:
> > > > >  > Reply-To: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > > > Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 61 deg. this morning with rain in  the forecast for today and
tomorrow.
> > > > I
> > > > > have enough inside jobs to  do, so that is ok for now. When the
weather
> > > > > clears, I can do the  outside work.
> > > > > > Earline, I don't have any animals, and Geo. and I  do not wear shoes
in
> > > > > the house, so that cuts down on a lot of work,  wear and tear. When we
> > > > lived
> > > > > in Hawaii, we found out from the  locals, it is unsanitary to wear
shoes
> > > > in
> > > > > the house (Japanese  custom) and we got into the habit of doing the
same.
> > > > We
> > > > > put the  laminated flooring at the entrance way about ten years ago,
for
> > > > >  some reason, now that eludes me, because the tile would have been
> > > > better. We
> > > > > got water in under the door and did some damage to the laminate. 
Since
> > > > > then, we put in the new doors and solved that problem and now  I want
to
> > > > get rid
> > > > > of the laminate and the entry way is large enough  that I think slate
> > > > would
> > > > > be the ideal solution, or tile that  resembles slate. Originally it
was
> > > > > carpeted, but we found that  people coming in with wet feet was
ruining
> > > > the
> > > > > carpeting, so this  way, I don't have to worry what people track in on
> > > > their
> > > > > feet, plus  slate or slate tile would blend in with the color I have
in
> > > > the k
> > > > >  itchen and going to put in the dining room. I have to get more boxes
to
> > > > > store my china and start packing up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---  In __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )  , earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Norma, with the  dogs and sand they track in, my living/dining
area
> > > > is
> > > > > the original  oak hardwood, some finish worn off and lots of dings and
> > > > > scratches.  I won't do anything until the dogs are gone, they'll just
> > > > ruin it.
> > > > >  > >
> > > > > > > This spring's diy project: I'm tiling 1/2 of  the unfinished part
of
> > > > > the basement that we use as a pantry. A  neighbour gave hubby some
cases
> > > > of
> > > > > leftover floor tile (all  earthtones) from a few different jobs he
had. I
> > > > > just have to buy  grout.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent on the  TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: no2more@
> > > > > >  > Sender: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 08:59:26
> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > Reply-To: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] January Weather and  Conversation
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are back to normal  weather here for a few days before we get
> > > > > another
> > > > > >  > cold front. 55-60 at night and 75-80 during the day.
> > > > > > >  I have to get ready to empty my china closet. We are going to
cover
> > > > >  the
> > > > > > > floor with tile to match the kitchen, and while we  are at it I
want
> > > > to
> > > > > put
> > > > > > > slate at the entrance  way and hall. Now I have terrazzo floor
with
> > > > an
> > > > > area
> > > > > >  > rug in the dining room and the entrance way has imitation wood
> > > > >  (laminate).
> > > > > > > Hard to keep the carpeting in that room, as  it is a walk through
> > > > from
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > front door to the  kitchen and computer room, unless we go through
> > > > the
> > > > > > >  living room which is inconvenient. I will have to box up
everything
> > > > so
> > > > > they can
> > > > > > > move the furniture out to make sure  they don't break anything. I
> > > > hope
> > > > > > > this will make for  easier cleaning. I may put an area rug down in
> > > > the
> > > > > future,
> > > > >  > > but for now, I will leave it plain. Once we get that job done. it
> > > > is
> > > > > > > time to start replacing the carpeting in all the other  rooms.
This
> > > > > year
> > > > > > > makes eighteen years it has  been down, and even though it doesn't
> > > > look
> > > > > bad, I
> > > > > >  > can tell when I vacumn there are worn spots. Because it has a
white
> > > > > > > background, it gets shampooed at least once a year. I  would like
to
> > > > > put the
> > > > > > > exact same thing down, if  they still make it. I has stood up well
> > > > and
> > > > > I love
> > > > > >  > the light color. It's Berber.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In a message dated 1/4/2013 7:55:37 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time,
> > > > > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > >  > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chilly  here, mid-20's, a bit breezy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I got  Christmas all packed up, just have to put it back in the
> > > > closet
> > > > >  > > today. I'm doing some spring cleaning, kitchen cupboards and
> > > > shelves
> > > > > for today.
> > > > > > > I want to swap some of my  display items and rearrange stuff. I'm
> > > > using
> > > > > an
> > > > > > >  Interstate Battery stand from the shop for my cookbooks and also
my
> > > > >  antique
> > > > > > > cast iron bake-ware, I finally got around to  cleaning it up and
> > > > > seasoning
> > > > > > > it last week. I  bought it a few years ago at an auction.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >  > I have to get in touch with the local museum and see if they want
my
> > > >
> > > > > > > antique cradle. They have a quilt display, maybe they can  use it
to
> > > > > display some
> > > > > > > crib quilts. It takes up  too much space.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Good luck with the Smith line.   I was fortunate with the Smith's in George's
family tree.    They went back to the founding fathers, and was well documented.
Once I made the connection, it was all there.
Sunny and warm today

--- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, earlinebradt@... wrote:
>
> Thanks for the link Norma. I will check it out.
>
> I started researching my 3rd great-grandmother's loyalist family, I downloaded
3 land petitions for "Hainer"  for a possible match for her father today. I have
another surname "Smith" that I have left for last.
>
>
> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Norma"
> Sender: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:15:03
> To:
> Reply-To: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
>
> Earline - this is the Url for the site where I found all that information:
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/
> I was unable to get any information entering the first and last names, but by
using just the last name, I found many results and just eliminated those that
were not in Kerry.
>
> --- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, earlinebradt@ wrote:
> >
> > Norma you have been busy. I've been looking through my research to find any
more information.
> >
> > There are a few local history books that I'm checking out, one is online.
There are quite a few associated families of mine in it.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Norma"
> > Sender: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:10:36
> > To:
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> > Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
> >
> > This is another one that I feel is related because of the location.  Uncle
or sibling:
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> > Nothing on your James but I feel from what Ihave found that they are all
located in that one area.
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> >
> >
> > --- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, "Norma"  wrote:
> > >
> > > We are have summer weather, 60's at night and 80's during theday.  Sunny
and warm.
> > > The date on the James Shuell and Elizabeth Fitzgerald is 1 Dec. 1860.
> > > This is the marriage record for one mentioned in the letter "Giles":
> > >
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> > > Area - KERRY (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - KILTALLAGH
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> > > Marriage of WILLIAM SHEUL of CAHIRCIVEEN and ANNE GILES of
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> > >
> > > --- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sunny today, low 40's, a little windy. The snow is slowly disappearing
and rain expected in the next few days should make for a muddy mess. Back to
normal next week.
> > > >
> > > > I've started working on getting my RM program updated, I've been
procrastinating doing it.
> > > >
> > > > I have a couple of weeks before I start on the branch newsletter again.
I started it right after the last meeting in Nov. while it was still fresh in my
memory. I don't have any submissions yet, they'll probably come in February
right before the deadline.
> > > >
> > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: "Norma"
> > > > Sender: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:01:19
> > > > To:
> > > > Reply-To: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
> > > >
> > > > The townland in the letter is Killeenafinnane/Killenifane, it is located
in:   County Kerry, Barony of Trughanacmy, Civil Parish of Kiltallagh, PLU of
Tralee and Province of Munster.  317 acres in size.
> > > >
> > > > I found this guy as a possible relative: (I don't see the date, will
have to go back and get that - I must have cut it off)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Name
> > > >
> > > >  JOHN SHUELL
> > > >
> > > > MARTHA FITZGERALD
> > > >
> > > > Address
> > > >  CAHIRCIVEEN
> > > > CAHIRCIVEEN
> > > > Occupation
> > > >  SERGEANT IN THE 10TH REGT
> > > > SERVANT
> > > > Father
> > > >  JOHN SHUELL
> > > > PATRICK FITZGERALD (father of bride)
> > > > Mother
> > > >
> > > >  N/R
> > > >
> > > > N/R
> > > > Further details in the record
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> > > >
> > > > ARDFERT & AGHADOE
> > > > Recorded Parochial Area
> > > > CAHIR
> > > > Husband Age
> > > > 27
> > > > Husband Marital Status
> > > > S
> > > > Wife Age
> > > > 23
> > > > Wife Marital Status
> > > > S
> > > > Husband's Father's Occupation
> > > > TRADESMAN
> > > > Wife's Father's Occupation
> > > > LABOURER
> > > > Witness 1
> > > > JAMES H EAGAR (WITNESS FOR HUSBAND)
> > > > Witness 3
> > > > WILLIAM EMMETT (WITNESS FOR WIFE)
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> > > >  N/R
> > > >
> > > > 9
> > > >
> > > > 17
> > > >
> > > > KY-CI-MA-1187
> > > >
> > > > k-71-3-1-009
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > View the church register page containing this record.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com, no2more@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > All information helps.   I figure when I didn't find the O'Neils  in
> > > > > Caherciveen/ Killarney it meant that I was probably looking in the
wrong  parish,
> > > > > or possibly now, the wrong first name.  So many little townlands to 
check
> > > > > in Ireland.  There were no civil records, banned by the crown in the 
early
> > > > > years and also banned in the Church's, but many Priests recorded them
> > > > > anyway, and kept hidden.  I find the Church records are only as good
as the
> > > > > Parish Priest and how he recorded them.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 1/8/2013 9:06:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Norma, I figure that maybe if I give you accurate info you may
have
> > > > > more success. I have to add that Alexander O'Neil was not Catholic,
> > > > > probably  going back to King James and the Catholic O'Neils that were
exiled.
> > > > > O'Neil is  one of the oldest surnames in Ireland, from the time of St.
Patrick,
> > > > > and the  first family to practise Christianity in Ireland. They were
the
> > > > > ruling family  until King James came along. The flag of Northern
Ireland still
> > > > > has "the  bloody hand of O'Neill" on it. Just a bit of trivia...
> > > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > > > >
> > > > > ____________________________________
> > > > > From: no2more@
> > > > > Sender: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:47:28 -0500 (EST)
> > > > > To:
> > > > > ReplyTo: seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok Earline, received all and am now digesting.  Will work on it  again
this
> > > > > afternoon.   I had to laugh at the expression in the  letter about
mutton.
> > > > >   I haven't heard lamb referred to as  mutton since back in the 40's
or
> > > > > 50's, when my father used to call it  that.   We don't get mutton
today, as I
> > > > > understand it, mutton came  from old tough lambs, whereas today we get
young
> > > > > lamb's meat which is not  tough.
> > > > > Anyway, something more to work with, will get back to you.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 1/8/2013 7:44:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I uploaded a copy of the letter from Ireland for you to read, I figure
> > > > > it'll be easier than giving you misinformation from memory.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) ,  earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Norma, she may have been an  aunt, Eliza Shuel was born in Ireland
about
> > > > > 1820, parents, John Shuel and  Mary Langford, married James not John
O'Neil,
> > > > > my mistake, son of William?  (LDS Ancestral file) about 1848 in
Detroit.
> > > > > John Shuel died Jan. 27, 1854 in  Essex County.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility  network with BlackBerry
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >  From: no2more@
> > > > > > Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > > >  Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 18:12:18
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Reply-To: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > > >  Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Earline, I am not having much luck with the O'Neil's in Caherciveen 
or
> > > > > > Killarney, but I did find an Elizabeth Shuell. Could this one be 
yours?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Baptism of ELIZABETH SHUELL of NR
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > on 17 July 1807
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Parish/Church/Congregation -  KILCOLMAN
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Area - KERRY (COI)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In  a message dated 1/7/2013 5:20:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > > >  earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Norma,  she mentions Tralee as well. The letter was originally in
Gaelic
> > > > > but
> > > > > > was translated to English.
> > > > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility  network with BlackBerry
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  ____________________________________
> > > > > > From: no2more@
> > > > > >  Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > > > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:36:49 -0500 (EST)
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > >  ReplyTo: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok Earline, we may be in  luck. Caherciveen is the same townland
that my
> > > > > > Sullivans come from  so have done a lot of looking in that area. I
found
> > > > > > that most of  the people were christened or baptised in the Church
in
> > > > > > Killarney.  The Church in Caherciveen was not built until after our
dates.
> > > > > > I'll  take a look later today and see what we may be able to find.
Who
> > > > > >  knows, some of your O'Neils may be married to my Sullivans?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 1/7/2013 9:15:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Norma, King  James drove most of the O'Neils out of Ireland or
killed
> > > > > them
> > > > > > in  the 17th century so maybe it would be easier to find O'Neil
families
> > > > > that
> > > > > > stayed behind.
> > > > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with  BlackBerry
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ____________________________________
> > > > > >  From: earlinebradt@
> > > > > > Sender: _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:08:03 -0000
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > ReplyTo:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Norma, the most recent info  I have in Ireland is a letter I found
online
> > > > > > from 1858 from my 3rd  great-grandfather's sister Millie O'Neil
Shuell,
> > > > > > married to Walter.  in Caherciveen?, County Kerry to her brother
> > > > > Alexander who
> > > > > >  immigrated with my 3rd great-grandfather in the 1830's. My 3rd
> > > > > >  great-grandfather, John, was married to Eliza Shuell about 1850 in
> > > > > Ontario,  I assume she
> > > > > > was Walter's sister. She died during childbirth in  1855 and he
remarried
> > > > > > twice before his death in Sandwich, Ontario.  Their son Edward J.
O'Neil,
> > > > > > born in 1855, was mayor of Sandwich for  a few years. My 2nd
> > > > > great-grandfather,
> > > > > > William, born in 1851, was  married to Viola Holden, my Crocket
cousin
> > > > > > line.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Sent from my BlackBerry® PlayBook™
> > > > > > www.blackberry.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ____________________________________
> > > > > > From:  "no2more@"
> > > > > > To: "_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) "
> > > > > > Sent: January 7, 2013 8:30 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re:  [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and Conversation
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Earline, they have some new resources for searching in  Ireland now
that
> > > > > > does make it a little easier. O'Neil can't be any  worse then
> > > > > > Sullivan/O'Sullivan. Do you have any idea what County or  townland
they
> > > > > came from?
> > > > > > Give me a little background on your O'Neil  and I will see if I can
find
> > > > > > anything to get you started.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 1/7/2013 7:38:38 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time,
> > > > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Above  freezing today.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Norma, I haven't done any research in  Ireland for my Irish
ancestors. I
> > > > > > imagine looking for the right  O'Neil family is near impossible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent on the TELUS  Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  ____________________________________
> > > > > > From: "Norma"
> > > > > > Sender:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 12:02:40 -0000
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > ReplyTo:  _seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com)
> > > > > > Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 62 deg. this morning with  some sprinkles. Clearing and sunny the
rest of
> > > > > > the day.
> > > > > > I  wear slippers in the winter, the floors are far too cold for bare
> > > > > feet,
> > > > > > but in the summer that same coolness is comforting to hot  feet.
> > > > > > I did some wallpaper repair yesterday. When I had the man come  out
to
> > > > > > re-grout my shower in the master bath, he messed up the  wallpaper
and
> > > > > > fortunately I has extra left over that I had saved. A  little
patching
> > > > > here and there
> > > > > > and it looks like new again. Thank  goodness it was only small
areas.
> > > > > (Just
> > > > > > the area above the shower  tile to the ceiling.) In a few spots all
I had
> > > > > > to do was re-glue  the edges. Then I did the same in the Hall bath.
In
> > > > > > cleaning, I has  used some kind of cleaner on the back splash that
left a
> > > > > stain on
> > > > > >  the paper. I removed all that was necessary and have the new piece
ready
> > > > >
> > > > > > to go back up, but waiting to do that this afternoon after I finish 
my
> > > > > > ironing.
> > > > > > Did a little research on my Sullivan's again  yesterday. I had some
> > > > > > conflicting information that I am trying to  sort out. Found there
are a
> > > > > lot of
> > > > > > Sullivans named Michael in New  London County. I always thought mine
was
> > > > > called
> > > > > > Mickey Owen, but  having received an obituary on Mickey Owen
Sullivan,
> > > > > they
> > > > > > are not  the same person. Two years difference in their age and wife
and
> > > > > >  children all different. what a mess. I know the wife of my Michael
was
> > > > > named
> > > > > > Mary, because she was the sister of my Daniel Sullivan.
> > > > > > ---  In __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )  , earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chilly this morning, 18,  some light snow tonight.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Norma, I wear slippers  inside, more to keep my feet clean than
the
> > > > > > floor. The dogs get  their feet cleaned when they come inside, they
start
> > > > > barking
> > > > > > if we  forget because they get a treat afterwards but there's always
sand
> > > > > >  between their toes that falls off when it dries up, the lab also
has
> > > > > webbed
> > > > > > toes which hold a lot.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: "Norma"
> > > > > > > Sender: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
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> > > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
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> > > > > > > Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 12:44:45
> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > >  > Reply-To: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
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> > > > > > > Subject: [seekingourtwigs] Re: January Weather and  Conversation
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 61 deg. this morning with rain in  the forecast for today and
tomorrow.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > have enough inside jobs to  do, so that is ok for now. When the
weather
> > > > > > clears, I can do the  outside work.
> > > > > > > Earline, I don't have any animals, and Geo. and I  do not wear
shoes in
> > > > > > the house, so that cuts down on a lot of work,  wear and tear. When
we
> > > > > lived
> > > > > > in Hawaii, we found out from the  locals, it is unsanitary to wear
shoes
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the house (Japanese  custom) and we got into the habit of doing the
same.
> > > > > We
> > > > > > put the  laminated flooring at the entrance way about ten years ago,
for
> > > > > >  some reason, now that eludes me, because the tile would have been
> > > > > better. We
> > > > > > got water in under the door and did some damage to the laminate. 
Since
> > > > > > then, we put in the new doors and solved that problem and now  I
want to
> > > > > get rid
> > > > > > of the laminate and the entry way is large enough  that I think
slate
> > > > > would
> > > > > > be the ideal solution, or tile that  resembles slate. Originally it
was
> > > > > > carpeted, but we found that  people coming in with wet feet was
ruining
> > > > > the
> > > > > > carpeting, so this  way, I don't have to worry what people track in
on
> > > > > their
> > > > > > feet, plus  slate or slate tile would blend in with the color I have
in
> > > > > the k
> > > > > >  itchen and going to put in the dining room. I have to get more
boxes to
> > > > > > store my china and start packing up.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ---  In __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
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> > > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )  , earlinebradt@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Norma, with the  dogs and sand they track in, my living/dining
area
> > > > > is
> > > > > > the original  oak hardwood, some finish worn off and lots of dings
and
> > > > > > scratches.  I won't do anything until the dogs are gone, they'll
just
> > > > > ruin it.
> > > > > >  > >
> > > > > > > > This spring's diy project: I'm tiling 1/2 of  the unfinished
part of
> > > > > > the basement that we use as a pantry. A  neighbour gave hubby some
cases
> > > > > of
> > > > > > leftover floor tile (all  earthtones) from a few different jobs he
had. I
> > > > > > just have to buy  grout.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sent on the  TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: no2more@
> > > > > > >  > Sender: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 08:59:26
> > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > Reply-To: __seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) _
> > > > > > (mailto:_seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com_
> > > > > (mailto:seekingourtwigs@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [seekingourtwigs] January Weather and  Conversation
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We are back to normal  weather here for a few days before we get
> > > > > > another
> > > > > > >  > cold front. 55-60 at night and 75-80 during the day.
> > > > > > > >  I have to get ready to empty my china closet. We are going to
cover
> > > > > >  the
> > > > > > > > floor with tile to match the kitchen, and while we  are at it I
want
> > > > > to
> > > > > > put
> > > > > > > > slate at the entrance  way and hall. Now I have terrazzo floor
with
> > > > > an
> > > > > > area
> > > > > > >  > rug in the dining room and the entrance way has imitation wood
> > > > > >  (laminate).
> > > > > > > > Hard to keep the carpeting in that room, as  it is a walk
through
> > > > > from
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > front door to the  kitchen and computer room, unless we go
through
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >  living room which is inconvenient. I will have to box up
everything
> > > > > so
> > > > > > they can
> > > > > > > > move the furniture out to make sure  they don't break anything.
I
> > > > > hope
> > > > > > > > this will make for  easier cleaning. I may put an area rug down
in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > future,
> > > > > >  > > but for now, I will leave it plain. Once we get that job done.
it
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > time to start replacing the carpeting in all the other  rooms.
This
> > > > > > year
> > > > > > > > makes eighteen years it has  been down, and even though it
doesn't
> > > > > look
> > > > > > bad, I
> > > > > > >  > can tell when I vacumn there are worn spots. Because it has a
white
> > > > > > > > background, it gets shampooed at least once a year. I  would
like to
> > > > > > put the
> > > > > > > > exact same thing down, if  they still make it. I has stood up
well
> > > > > and
> > > > > > I love
> > > > > > >  > the light color. It's Berber.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In a message dated 1/4/2013 7:55:37 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time,
> > > > > > > > earlinebradt@ writes:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >  > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Chilly  here, mid-20's, a bit breezy.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I got  Christmas all packed up, just have to put it back in the
> > > > > closet
> > > > > >  > > today. I'm doing some spring cleaning, kitchen cupboards and
> > > > > shelves
> > > > > > for today.
> > > > > > > > I want to swap some of my  display items and rearrange stuff.
I'm
> > > > > using
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > >  Interstate Battery stand from the shop for my cookbooks and
also my
> > > > > >  antique
> > > > > > > > cast iron bake-ware, I finally got around to  cleaning it up and
> > > > > > seasoning
> > > > > > > > it last week. I  bought it a few years ago at an auction.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  > I have to get in touch with the local museum and see if they
want my
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > antique cradle. They have a quilt display, maybe they can  use
it to
> > > > > > display some
> > > > > > > > crib quilts. It takes up  too much space.
> > > > > > > >
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