Hmm. I could be wrong as to what I am about to say, but then again, I could be right But how and who made up these questions? More over who is going to move this beta around to productize it?
From the blog postings it sounds like a part of it is cut and paste from Ken and Mike Cohn’s work and the Agile Manifesto and Principles. It also sounds like multiple guess which leads to memorization, trivia contests and ultimately people wearing finger symbols and running around either selling flowers in airports or waving their books in the air shouting inane slogans and purging the world of everything they don’t understand.
There also is a case study section hmm. Let’s see that game is played by taking the path your instructor led but being clever about parroting their words. Unless this too were multiple choice then it is (too irritating to think of).
The best part is quantitative ??? (Scrum has Stats!!!!!) If there was a question on how long it takes to transition an enterprise to scrum then there had better have been a delimiter for the size of the organization and what was the definition of complete. Otherwise my bad numbers are as good as anybodies.
All in all I think this is a turning point for Scrum just like the first exams for PMI were a turning point for a PMP. And we know how that turned out. BTW I heard an interesting conjecture. There is a correlation with the increase in PMP’s and the amount of world wide over run of projects. Now before you go off on that ask two important questions, 1. is it a positive or negative correlation, 2. does it measure anything.
Ken still rocks as does Mike Cohn BTW but both he and Mike put their pants on one leg at a time – meaning they are important resources for Scrum, but not the only ones. To assume a person is better qualified to lead a scrum team because they have imprinted some stuff in their head is as far away from what Ken and Mike state scrum is as I can imagine.
Here is my thought on a csm exam
Take any topic in Scrum and require the student to list three valid arguments for and against it. Then to describe their position and why.
There should be no more than three questions answered and at least 10 questions asked.
I do not want agreement here, I want well thought out responses because we are all about emergence and learning.
Michael F. Dwyer
"Planning constantly peers into the future for indications as to where a solution may emerge."
"A Plan is a complex situation, adapting to an emerging solution."
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From:
scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Little
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008
11:13 PM
To:
scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scrumdevelopment] Re:
While were on the subject of tests...
Hi,
I agree with Tobias.
The proposed test is a small help in getting people a bit further up
the learning curve. It definitely has limitations. But these
limitations do not together convince us not to do the test.
I do think we need to talk about the value of the test and what it
means. I do expect some misunderstanding of it. Both in favor and
against.
I would also like us to think about moving to an action-oriented test,
such as "have you gotten a team to get a 70% score on the Nokia
Test"?
I personally think action is more important than mere thinking. Just
as working software is more important than documentation.
My 2 cents.
Thanks, Joe
--- In scrumdevelopment@
<tobias.mayer@
>
> David,
>
> Before you fly off the handle and throw offensive words out into
> cyberspace, maybe you can take a little time to find out what that test
> actually is.
>
> The way I view it is this: the CSM test encourages participants of a CSM
> course to take time to read books, papers, blogs and join discussion
> groups in order to improve their academic understanding of Scrum, either
> prior to the training or subsequently (the test is to be taken online,
> after the training is completed). In other words, it encourages the
> potential CSMs to take responsibility for their own learning and not
> just expect to be spoon-fed a certificate after two days of sitting in a
> class. This is a good thing.
>
> We all know that the certificate is mostly meaningless from a
> professional point of view -- and we need to keep reminding those who
> actually believe people with a CSM certificate are better than those
> without, that this is NOT the case (for heaven's sake!). But from a
> personal perspective, the CSM is not meaningless. It meant something to
> me to complete the training and receive the certficate. Not a lot, and
> I never announced the fact nor put it on my resume, but it still had
> value to me -- in the same way that passing the written part of my
> driving test had value. It is a step. It is a beginning.
>
> So chill out about the test. Find out a little more, and consider its
> value to the individual.
>
> There are tests and there are tests. The CSM test is nothing like the
> Nokia test. They serve totally different purposes.
>
> Tobias
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In scrumdevelopment@
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:53 PM, peterstev peterstev@ wrote:
> > > Who took the Beta of the CSM test in Stockholm last week? What
did
> you think
> > > of it?
> > >
> > There is a CSM test now? You got to be shittin' me....
> >
> > -d
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from gmail so do not trust this communication.
> > Do not send me sensitive information here, ask for my none-gmail
> accounts.
> >
> > "Therefore the considerations of the intelligent always include
both
> > benefit and harm." - Sun Tzu
> >
>
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