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Re: [scrumdevelopment] Per Person Burndown Poll Doesn't Make Sense

Hello, captwilco2002. On Monday, August 11, 2008, at 12:11:21 PM,
you wrote:

> 1. Why doesn't the poll make sense?

Because ...
... per person tracking is counter-productive;
... per person tracking does not collect useful data;
... burndown is measured in things done, not time spent;
... people don't burn things down, teams do.

> 2. Do you think I should be tracking this?

No. Not remotely.

> 3. About how many hours can be expected for an individual to burndown
> in one day (on average)? (Not what is a reasonable number of hours to
> expect each person to burndown on a daily basis, hence the purpose of
> my poll)

What is the difference between an average number that can be
expected, and a reasonable number to expect?

But never mind. Tracking individual hours of anything will break
Scrum, or any other process.

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
I once had a coworker who worked so hard that when I came in the
morning, he was already sitting there trying to fix the things he
broke after I left the day before ... -- Ilja Preuss.




Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:56 pm

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I posted a poll trying to see how many hours per person does each person contribute to the burndown. So far, seven people voted that the poll doesn't make...
captwilco2002
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Aug 11, 2008
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I posted a poll trying to see how many hours per person does each person contribute to the burndown. ...
captwilco2002
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Aug 11, 2008
8:02 pm

... And how does the /team/ feel about this? ... Simply because there is no correlation between developer time and software in production: ...
Kane Mar
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Aug 11, 2008
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When I was in charge of IS students' industrial experience programs at a university, I required them to keep timesheets. I did this primarilly so that the...
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Hello, captwilco2002. On Monday, August 11, 2008, at 12:11:21 PM, ... Because ... ... per person tracking is counter-productive; ... per person tracking does...
Ron Jeffries
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Aug 11, 2008
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Hi captwilco2002, I also tried measuring productivity using some format like this sometime ago (it's hard to get valuable results). But I found that: 1. There...
Luu Duong
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Aug 12, 2008
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Hi, we were a team of 15 members and we have a lot of little projects (5 until 20 days) which cannot be solved in a waterfall like. We planned this "projects"...
SPM
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Aug 12, 2008
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... Why doesn't this make sense? Because it will destroy the team. If you measure individuals then people will only do things that make them look good. Why...
Mark Levison
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Aug 12, 2008
3:06 pm

Whoa. I think there is an inherent problem underlying the question you are asking. It suggests that you are treating the scrum team as a group of individuals....
James S. Fosdick, PMP...
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Aug 12, 2008
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No, personally, I do not think it adds any value. What value do you add by capturing how many hours team member burned on a day? If you want to know whether...
Kiran Thakkar
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Aug 13, 2008
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... I suspect you will get a lot of push back on the poll because it is counter to the spirit and intent of how agile teams like to work. Like Rob Austin says...
Jonathan Rasmusson
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Aug 13, 2008
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