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Re: [scrumdevelopment] Re: Quick Poll: How long to sprint?

Ash Tengshe wrote:
> Really there are two forces that determine the sprint length
>
> <--Force that tries to elongate--> Getting to "Done" in a sprint and
> how hard it is in certain environments to complete SDLC steps in 2
> weeks vs. 4
>
> -->Force that tries to shorten<-- The rule of no scope changes in the
> active Sprint. This means that the shorter they are the more
> likelihood of low changes. This depends also on the dynamism of the
> environment the team is working in

To me, there are at least three more forces at work that shorten the
sprint length:

- Closure. A sprint end feels good, because you finished another sprint
of work. It should be a moment of celebration and pride. Having it more
often can be quite motivating.

- Feedback. The end of an iteration is a good place to reflect on the
work we have done. Did we estimate well enough? Did we understand the
backlog items? Did we work on the right backlog items? Did we totally
mess up the sprint? What do we want to do differently in the next
sprint? (Kent Beck once asked when being asked for the right iteration
length for an XP project "how much work can you effort to have wasted?")

- ROI. A sprint end is a good point to assess whether to put the current
system into production. If you can do that two weeks earlier, you get
better return on investment.

Cheers, Ilja



Thu May 8, 2008 7:46 pm

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Hi everyone, Following the discussions on this blog and elsewhere, the questions poses itself - what is the prefered sprint duration? I've set up a Quick Poll:...
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the preferred sprint duration is the one that works best for your team :)...
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It is generally the longest period of time that you can shield the team from changing any work. For a lot of organizations this is extremely difficult, so...
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Really there are two forces that determine the sprint length <--Force that tries to elongate--> Getting to "Done" in a sprint and how hard it is in certain...
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... To me, there are at least three more forces at work that shorten the sprint length: - Closure. A sprint end feels good, because you finished another sprint...
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1 week 1 (3%) 2 weeks 9 (34%) 3 weeks 10 (38%) 4 weeks 3 (11%) 1 month 2 (7%) longer, but fixed 0 (0%) variable length 1 (3%) After 12 hours and 26 votes: a...
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3-week sprints have become very popular over the last 12-18 months. Before then most teams considered them odd ;) Seriously, it's a recent change for most...
Mike Cohn
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I like to start with 1 week sprints and when the team stops complaining, I move it out to 2 weeks. I could see 3 week sprints being good for longer projects,...
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With one of the teams I used to work with we did the progression from 4 weeks to 2 weeks and then to 3 weeks. It was a little bit like goldilocks and the...
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... To what do you attribute that tendency? Were I to speculate I might hypothesize that that represents the "sweet spot" between maximal inspect and adapt...
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(responding to Ash, Ilja, all) ... Add to those "Reliability of Commitment". For a shorter sprint it seems easier to make a commitment and really mean it. But...
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Good point!...
Ilja Preuss
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Ok now that we have the list increasing...I'll throw in one more :) Data points for velocity. If you have a 4 month project and do 4 week sprints, by the time...
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Many of you mentioned that shorter sprint reduces possibility of scope changes and you could follow the rule of no scope changes in the active Sprint. It is...
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Hi everyone, The poll has expired and you can see the results and a summary of the comments on this list under: And the winner is... ...
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IMO the most agile answer is "whatever length works for the team provided it's not longer than 30 days". In general I base my sprint length recommendations on...
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If I may offer a slight variation on this: "Whatever is the shortest practical length for the team."...
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... If "practical" means "established by practice" (rather than through a thought experiment), I agree with this definition. I fear, though, that this...
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... Yes. ... Yes. ... Yes. ;-)...
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