--- In scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com, Ilja Preuss <it@...> wrote:
> split the team - depending on the source, the recommended size seems to
> vary between half a dozen and two dozen team members.
Huh? In Scrum the recommended team size is 7 plus or minus 2.
... Is this a response from someone who actually experienced a scrum meeting taking half an hour? Or was it perhaps pure speculation that every team member...
As Ron Jeffries may be otherwise occupied I will borrow his famous tag 2 + 2 = 5 with sufficiently large enough quantities of 2. Team size can be as small a 1...
a football team has 11 players at a time; likewise a scrum team has 7 +/- 2. otherwise it's not scrum, or not applicable/appropriate to scrum. if you have a...
Thus, regretfully, proving Ron correct. Michael F. Dwyer "Planning constantly peers into the future for indications as to where a solution may emerge." "A Plan...
... I beg to differ here. I've never seen Scrum *not* work well in small teams, even one-man shows. Just has to be adapted accordingly. Most of the practices...
I wonder if a one person team doing Scrum is a contradiction in terms, unless of course the developer is the client / product owner. Surely collaboration...
Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Jul 22, 2007 12:34 pm
... The original poster seemed to ask about Agile in general, so that's what I responded to. Perhaps I should have added something about the official Scrum...
... Michael, PMFJI, but I'm puzzled. Why do you place so much emphasis on the team size? I agree that 7 +/- 2 is an excellent recommendation, but certainly...
... George, I guess they probably can, but I haven't personally observed larger groups making very good *Scrum* teams (apart from the fact they aren't Scrum...
... 7 +/- 2 is considered the optimum, yes, but there will always be exceptions. Here are three examples of possible reasons to want to keep a 14 person team...
... I'm not arguing that a 14 person team is going to have difficulties that a 7 person team doesn't. My query is about why you see this team size as an...
In scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com, George Dinwiddie wrote: My query is about why you see this team size as an integral part of scrum, e.g., that if you've...
... <sigh/> Yes, I understand the recommendation. I agree with the recommendation. What I don't understand is saying, "if you've got less than 5 or more than...
Sure, it's fragile. All development is. Two-week sprints are great - 6 or 8 week aren't. The closer the team remains to Scrum's basic tenets, the better off...
The reason why 30 day sprints are the norm is it usually takes that long for most companies to push quality code through all their environments. Two week ...
It would be invigorating to see your stats as most the reporting over the past few years here indicates folks are happier with 10 and 5 day sprints. Michael F....
I prefer 15 day sprints. 10 day sprints are tolerable, but too crunched in my opinion with the overhead of the planning/review meetings disproportionately...
When you say 15 "day" sprints do you mean calendar days or business days? Assuming you meant 15 business days, adding 5 more days doesn't seem too far out...
I mean business days. A month is often 22 business days (or 23) but that's nit-picking. I think it's too long, but that's just my opinion. I found 15 day...
... Shortening the Sprint duration to less than 30 days (while keeping it regular) seems to be the one thing people can tinker with without losing the benefit...
... I can see a 14-person team turning in adequate results, just as you can get adequate results without a dedicated ScrumMaster per team. I don't see how 14...
Team size is a subjective issue. What works for one team, may not work for another. Let the team figure it out and manage itself. If there are too many...
On 22 Jul 2007, at 20:30, Michael James wrote: [snip] ... [snip] Which definition is this? It's been some time since I read the Scrum books - and I don't have...
... My claim of "by definition" is (probably) overstated; I don't have the books handy either. We get 7 +/- 2 from Ken's slides and our own experience with ...
I find it most odd, and somewhat disconcerting, to see such a lengthy and earnest discussion about how many people makes a proper, true and correct Scrum team....
Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Jul 23, 2007 11:14 am
... You'll get plenty of answers to those questions here. Scrum usually scales by groups of small teams ("Scrum of Scrums") communicating various different...
... I meet similar situations, where companies ask me how their 60 people team (following waterfall) should do scrum. It takes quite a lot of effort to get the...
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