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Re: Daily Scrum

Minimal daily scrums are that simple that concrete script won't
probably be of much help. What you are asking for is probably more
about gestures, looks, tone and feeling of trust in that Scrum Master
(and team members) will actually help when help is needed. These
things are difficult to reflect in a script.

Maybe the following article on the daily meeting patterns could help
you to locate the problem roots:
http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/itsNotJustStandingUp.html

And, well, if a team (not just some team members) was doing scrum for
at least several iterations already (so they got what it is about)
then isn't it their right to change the daily scrum way? Bad
command'n'control-like daily scrum might be worse, than no daily scrum.
Certainly, it is Scrum Master's responsibility to dig out the real
daily scrum problem and heal it in the first place. However, if he
fails, maybe it is a good idea to change the daily meetings and see
how it works.

On one of my recent projects the non-scrum team tried using daily
meetings (idea borrowed from the scrumish team around, where daily
meetings worked perfectly). However, without a good understanding of
the purpose and value of the meeting and its place in the process it
became a yet another damn status meeting with team lead updating his
task sheet on his laptop and nobody listening to each other tasks.
Over time it became such a pain with no value that everybody was happy
when it got canceled.

I hope your meetings are not like this.

Artem.

--- In scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Martin" <jmartin@...>
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> I have searched and can't seem to find what I'm looking for. I'm sure
> I'm just not using the right terms. Does anyone have a script of an
> example daily scrum? We are having several issues with our scrum and
> some team members are wanting to do away with it or change it to a twice
> a week thing. I'm wanting to fix the problems and I think sharing an
> example of a proper scrum with them would help. I've made up examples
> for different things, but I think it would have more impact reading
> through from start to finish.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Jeff Martin
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> Smith Seckman Reid, Inc.
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I have searched and can't seem to find what I'm looking for. I'm sure I'm just not using the right terms. Does anyone have a script of an example daily...
Jeff Martin
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Apr 25, 2007
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Hi, I do not think this is a "script" -- or even if one exists out there; however, I posted a blog about this topic recently that may be of interest on this...
Michael Vizdos
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Apr 25, 2007
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How do you conduct your daily Scrum meetings? And, what are your issues? For what its worth here is a script, if that helps. Daily Scrum meetings * During the...
Fred Montaseri
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I meant more of a script as in a role play example. Everyone on the team has read the questions several times, it's just some feel like "What have I done...
Jeff Martin
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Apr 25, 2007
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It sounds as if you already have the answers. They seem to be embedded in your description of the problems. Dave...
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Hi Jeff, I've faced similar issues and our team has managed to work through most of them in the past year. It is hard, but there is hope if you keep at it,...
Marcie Jones
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Apr 26, 2007
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Minimal daily scrums are that simple that concrete script won't probably be of much help. What you are asking for is probably more about gestures, looks, tone...
DoctorArtem
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Apr 25, 2007
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I sent that article to everyone when I sent out my list of issues. It's the best article I've seen so far on the benefits and potential problems of the scrum....
Jeff Martin
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Apr 25, 2007
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... Take a look here: http://www.think-box.co.uk/blog/2006/05/daily-stand-up-scrum-meeting.html...
Simon Baker
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Apr 25, 2007
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1. This may be because you haven't taken the time to break each user story into real tasks. We use an exercise where everyone gets post-its and writes down...
Spent Lenny
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Apr 26, 2007
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Jeff, Our daily scrum script is: Scrum Master: Scot, what did you accomplish yesterday? Scot: I finished tasks X and Y, but had a problem with Z. I think I ...
Scot Weber
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Scot, your script sounds like a command-and-contro scenario in which the ScrumMaster functions like a traditional PM. The problem that *may* occur with this...
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Dave, Thanks, you're dead right. It does sound just like C&C reporting. I slept on it and realized our daily scrums do have that simple script, but there's a...
Scot Weber
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Thanks to everyone that has offered input on this topic. I had sent an email to the team yesterday with a list of issues I saw and asked for input from...
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I agree with the other comment about this sounding too C&C. The Scrummaster should kick off the daily scrum by just saying something like, "Good morning! I'm...
Nicholas Cancelliere
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May 2, 2007
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It's called a 'daily standup', not a daily scrum. That might help when you google. ... -- I rather like the idea of being thought of as a shit - a common...
Gregor Dodson
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May 2, 2007
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I think a lot of the European guys call it a "daily scrum" because of the sport by the same name - where they huddle. Nicholas ... -- Nicholas Cancelliere ...
Nicholas Cancelliere
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May 10, 2007
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"I am looking for some approaches to shift our scrums' dynamics so the teams are owning the scrum more than me." You indicated that you are doing a roll call...
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May 18, 2008
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1. Bring nothing to take notes on. 2. Break eye contact once the meeting begins. 3. Use a token that the team passes around to decide who speaks next. 4. Start...
Jim Schiel
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May 20, 2008
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Yep. What he said. Excellent advice Jim. Jim Schiel <schiel@...> wrote: Bring nothing to take notes on. Break eye contact once the meeting begins. Use...
Tobias Mayer
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May 20, 2008
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I did a post in my blog about this. http://hugo-palma.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-to-give-ownership-of-daily-scrum-to.html Feel free to comment....
Hugo Palma
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I posted an article on Scrum Alliance that introduces the 4th question in the standup. http://www.scrumalliance.org/articles/95-fourwarned-is-forearmed You...
Mitch Lacey
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