anyone know anything about this Scouter Position and requirements, duties?
Dan

The position is designed for Scouts who wish to maintain unit registration
after age 18 and are in college or the military. The registration process is
the same as all other adult positions (application, annual fee, background
check, YPT) but there are no further training requirements beyond YPT. I
have not seen a formal duty description.

Registration is supposed to be available immediately, but I haven't yet
submiitted one.

Teresa Hall
Troop Secretary
and other stuff of course
Vulcan District, Greater AL Council


.
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 6:37 PM, danielgrummert
<dangrummert@...>wrote:

> anyone know anything about this Scouter Position and requirements, duties?
> Dan
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> For subscription and delevery options send a message to:
>  scouter_t-help@yahoogroups.com
>
> Scouting The Net - http://www.ScoutingTheNet.com/Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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Just posted the "official" announcement folks for "Unit/Crew Scouter Reserve;
this position ONLYrequires YPT, so it's ideal for what most Units will need.



- Art

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi,
I just got an email requesting the IOLS checksheet. Unfortunately, there is
something wrong, as when I send it off, it bounces back immediately. Can you try
again?

YiS
Marian McQuaid
----- Original Message -----
From: "A. Dukovic" <artdukovic@...>
To: "scouter t" <scouter_t@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:42:23 PM
Subject: [Scouter_T] Re: BSA College Scouter Reserve

Just posted the "official" announcement folks for "Unit/Crew Scouter Reserve;
this position ONLYrequires YPT, so it's ideal for what most Units will need.



- Art

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

For subscription and delevery options send a message to:
scouter_t-help@yahoogroups.com

Scouting The Net - http://www.ScoutingTheNet.com/Yahoo! Groups Links





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The video is very well done. All should benefit from this training. Especially
if you have had conventional CPR training.

New CPR Technique

You may have heard there is a new way to do CPR, but you may not have heard the
"why" behind it.   This is a very important video regarding the latest CPR
procedure.....it is much simpler.   Please take the time to watch and forward to
your friends and family if you haven't already done so. You never know, a life
may be saved utilizing this new procedure.

http://tinyurl.com/2fx8r59

No offense but here is a statement from BSA as of 2008. Until the catch up I
will continue to teach the boys old school

Recently there has been much discussion about the compression-only (or
"hands-only") CPR technique. In the forthcoming months, this topic will be
discussed by members of the Boy Scouts of America's Health and Safety Committee,
which oversees the BSA's health- and safety-related policies and procedures.
This committee also works closely with the American Red Cross and its BSA
liaison to help ensure that such policies and procedures are the most
appropriate for Scouting.

The compression-only technique may be suitable for some emergency situations. It
is not, however, an all-encompassing method for every CPR-related circumstance.
For example, drowning victims will still require mouth-to-mouth resuscitation,
because they do not have enough oxygen in their blood. In addition, the
compression-only technique should not be used for infnats and children. There
are other situations where the compression-only technique should not be applied.

Should the BSA Health and Safety Committee make any modifications to the
existing policy, the new information will be posted on this Web site.

--- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <bnelson45@...> wrote:
>
> The video is very well done. All should benefit from this training. Especially
if you have had conventional CPR training.
>
> New CPR Technique
>
> You may have heard there is a new way to do CPR, but you may not have heard
the "why" behind it.   This is a very important video regarding the latest CPR
procedure.....it is much simpler.   Please take the time to watch and forward to
your friends and family if you haven't already done so. You never know, a life
may be saved utilizing this new procedure.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2fx8r59
>

For drowning victims rescue breathing is still taught.

From January 2011 Scouting Magazine

Hands and Hearts
In October, the American Heart Association issued new guidelines for CPR and ECC
(emergency cardiovascular care), calling for a change in the CPR sequence from
A-B-C (airway, breathing, chest compressions) to C-A-B (chest compressions,
airway, breathing) for adults, children, and infants.



The letters sound simple enough, but according to the AHA, the new model "will
require re-education of everyone who has ever learned CPR." And, of course, that
includes Scouters and youths.

Richard Bourlon, head of the BSA's Health and Safety team, notes that many
Scouters will begin learning the new methods as they take training programs
through organizations like the American Red Cross. But he cautions that even
with the new guidelines, Scout leaders and Scouts still need to use good
judgment depending on the person in trouble and the circumstances.

"Many people are asking, `Does that mean I don't have to do rescue breaths
anymore?'" says Bourlon. "But [the new CPR sequence] isn't one size fits all."
He adds that 325,000 people a year die of sudden cardiac arrest, but only a
small percentage of those are youth. "Compression-only may be great for a
Scouter who collapses at your meeting, but what about a Scout who rescues a
drowning victim? They need air. With our youth and with our Scouting family, we
have both exposures."

For more on the new CPR guidelines, go to heart.org.

http://www.scoutingmagazine.org/issues/1101/d-trailhead.html



The American Heart Association now advises both trained and untrained rescuers
to begin CPR with chest compressions and, in most cases that do not involve a
drowning victim, to do away with the resuscitating breaths altogether. Studies
have shown that using chest compressions only is just as effective in
re-starting a failing heart as doing the full version of CPR.

Read more:
http://healthland.time.com/2011/01/03/5-new-rules-for-good-health/#ixzz1aF1VLZM1

This technique is only for untrained lay people.  The best thing for you to do
is to find an American Heart Association CPR class and be fully trained.  This
hands-only CPR was created to get people to at least give compressions, instead
of walking away, thereby increasing the chances of survival of the victim.
Barbz
AHA instructor
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Bill
   To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 6:04 PM
   Subject: [Scouter_T] New CPR Technique



   The video is very well done. All should benefit from this training. Especially
if you have had conventional CPR training.

   New CPR Technique

   You may have heard there is a new way to do CPR, but you may not have heard
the "why" behind it. This is a very important video regarding the latest CPR
procedure.....it is much simpler. Please take the time to watch and forward to
your friends and family if you haven't already done so. You never know, a life
may be saved utilizing this new procedure.

   http://tinyurl.com/2fx8r59










[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

That was my take on it too.  Thanks.


--- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, "Barb Zepp" <bzepp@...> wrote:
>
> This technique is only for untrained lay people.  The best thing for you to do
is to find an American Heart Association CPR class and be fully trained.  This
hands-only CPR was created to get people to at least give compressions, instead
of walking away, thereby increasing the chances of survival of the victim.
> Barbz
> AHA instructor
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Bill
>   To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 6:04 PM
>   Subject: [Scouter_T] New CPR Technique
>
>
>
>   The video is very well done. All should benefit from this training.
Especially if you have had conventional CPR training.
>
>   New CPR Technique
>
>   You may have heard there is a new way to do CPR, but you may not have heard
the "why" behind it. This is a very important video regarding the latest CPR
procedure.....it is much simpler. Please take the time to watch and forward to
your friends and family if you haven't already done so. You never know, a life
may be saved utilizing this new procedure.
>
>   http://tinyurl.com/2fx8r59
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

The long-awaited—and much anticipated—new Guide
to Advancement is finally finished. Your electronic copy
can be accessed via this link: https://rcpt.yousendit.com/
1248434208/aa3b5cf4b81427d26dabf4562825f940 .
It is currently on the press and will be delivered for
sale at Scout shops in the fall. The guide has been
reorganized for easy reference and features a list
of the questions most often asked of the national
Advancement Team. It is a complete rewrite of the
Advancement Committee Policies and Procedures,
which it replaces.

Councils may choose to make a transition over the next
few months from the former advancement publication
to the new Guide to Advancement. After January 1,
however, the new guide must be consulted for all
advancement procedures. Until January 1, Eagle Scout
candidates may choose to use either the new Eagle
Scout Service Project Workbook or the one we have
been using. The new workbook in fillable PDF will
be added shortly to www.Scouting.org. A nonfillable
version is attached. See the article in this issue on the
new workbook.

Because the new guide has been completely rewritten,
it is difficult to cite specific differences. However, a
number of sections merit close review. These can be
found in the guide under section 1.0.2.0, "Significant
Changes." Note that the contents pages and index
based on the new section numbering system should
make it more efficient to find various references on
advancement procedures.

How does one go about accessing this link?

MHomrighaus

Click on this link then click on the square with PDF in it

https://rcpt.yousendit.com/
<https://rcpt.yousendit.com/1248434208/aa3b5cf4b81427d26dabf4562825f940>
1248434208/aa3b5cf4b81427d26dabf4562825f940


--- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, Mike Homrighaus <mhomrigh@...> wrote:
>
> How does one go about accessing this link?
>
> MHomrighaus
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Here is a smaller link to the document:
http://tinyurl.com/3dwhjr8



--- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <bnelson45@...> wrote:
>
>
> Click on this link then click on the square with PDF in it
>
> https://rcpt.yousendit.com/
> <https://rcpt.yousendit.com/1248434208/aa3b5cf4b81427d26dabf4562825f940>
> 1248434208/aa3b5cf4b81427d26dabf4562825f940
>
>
> --- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, Mike Homrighaus <mhomrigh@> wrote:
> >
> > How does one go about accessing this link?
> >
> > MHomrighaus
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Thanks so much for this. Being the RT commissioner, I love getting info I can
send out to my Scoutmasters. 
Quick question, what about a scout that starts the process in the fall and will
not be finished until after January? I suppose the answer is easy enough, make
sure he starts in the new book. But what with the speed word gets handed down
from alot of Council Advancement Committees (NOT). 
Or a scout that started even further back......you know how sometimes a scout
starts the process and then for some reason there is a long stall...........  
Thanks

Connie

--- On Sun, 10/9/11, Bill <bnelson45@...> wrote:

The long-awaited—and much anticipated—new Guide
to Advancement is finally finished. Your electronic copy
can be accessed via this link: https://rcpt.yousendit.com/
1248434208/aa3b5cf4b81427d26dabf4562825f940 .



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Info from an advancement newsletter that came out Friday:

The new workbook as a illable PDF document will be available shortly at
http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/BoyScouts/AdvancementandAwards/resources.asp\
x. Like the Guide to Advancement, it has been completely
rewritten. The new workbook supports the revised wording in Eagle Scout
requirement 5, which calls for a project proposal to be approved by the council
or district, rather than "the project plan."
Scouts have a choice to use either the new workbook or the one it is replacing.
If they have already had their Eagle Scout service project approved by the
council or district under the current wording of requirement 5, using the
current workbook, they should continue with
the same workbook. If their project has not yet been approved by the council or
district, they may elect to use the new wording and the new workbook. For Scouts
who choose to use the new workbook, those approving Eagle Scout service projects
must evaluate projects accordingly, using the procedures outlined in the Guide
to Advancement, and judging candidates' project proposals.

Those responsible for council or district project approval do not have the
authority to require use of the previous workbook edition if Scouts have elected
to use the new requirement and the new workbook.
We are aware of issues some Eagle Scout candidates have encountered using
fillable PDF workbooks. Though we have taken some measures to improve the
fillable PDF, some may still experience difficulties with it. As a solution, we
are currently working toward a new approach to the workbook that may involve an
online, interactive, downloadable application. If testing proves it to be a
superior document, fully functional on virtually any operating system, we will
abandon the fillable PDF version. Regardless, the workbook will continue to be
available for printing a hard copy that can be completed by hand or with a
typewriter.

--- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, Connie Knie <cknie23100@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks so much for this. Being the RT commissioner, I love getting info I can
send out to my Scoutmasters. 
> Quick question, what about a scout that starts the process in the fall and
will not be finished until after January? I suppose the answer is easy enough,
make sure he starts in the new book. But what with the speed word gets handed
down from alot of Council Advancement Committees (NOT). 
> Or a scout that started even further back......you know how sometimes a scout
starts the process and then for some reason there is a long stall...........  
> Thanks
>
> Connie

What is this advancement newsletter are ya'll talking about and what website can
this be found on?


Yours in Scouting,




Ben Ward





Eagle Scout Class 1999
Heart of Virginia Council # 602


________________________________
From: Bill <bnelson45@...>
To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 12:53 PM
Subject: [Scouter_T] New Eagle Project Workbook was: Introducing the Guide to
Advancement


 
Info from an advancement newsletter that came out Friday:

The new workbook as a illable PDF document will be available shortly at
http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/BoyScouts/AdvancementandAwards/resources.asp\
x. Like the Guide to Advancement, it has been completely
rewritten. The new workbook supports the revised wording in Eagle Scout
requirement 5, which calls for a project proposal to be approved by the council
or district, rather than "the project plan."
Scouts have a choice to use either the new workbook or the one it is replacing.
If they have already had their Eagle Scout service project approved by the
council or district under the current wording of requirement 5, using the
current workbook, they should continue with
the same workbook. If their project has not yet been approved by the council or
district, they may elect to use the new wording and the new workbook. For Scouts
who choose to use the new workbook, those approving Eagle Scout service projects
must evaluate projects accordingly, using the procedures outlined in the Guide
to Advancement, and judging candidates' project proposals.

Those responsible for council or district project approval do not have the
authority to require use of the previous workbook edition if Scouts have elected
to use the new requirement and the new workbook.
We are aware of issues some Eagle Scout candidates have encountered using
fillable PDF workbooks. Though we have taken some measures to improve the
fillable PDF, some may still experience difficulties with it. As a solution, we
are currently working toward a new approach to the workbook that may involve an
online, interactive, downloadable application. If testing proves it to be a
superior document, fully functional on virtually any operating system, we will
abandon the fillable PDF version. Regardless, the workbook will continue to be
available for printing a hard copy that can be completed by hand or with a
typewriter.

--- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, Connie Knie <cknie23100@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks so much for this. Being the RT commissioner, I love getting info I can
send out to my Scoutmasters. 
> Quick question, what about a scout that starts the process in the fall and
will not be finished until after January? I suppose the answer is easy enough,
make sure he starts in the new book. But what with the speed word gets handed
down from alot of Council Advancement Committees (NOT). 
> Or a scout that started even further back......you know how sometimes a scout
starts the process and then for some reason there is a long stall...........
 
> Thanks
>
> Connie




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

It is a newsletter that went out to the council advancement committees.  You can
request a copy from your council advancement committee.  But the important
things for this month have been posted already.

Bill

--- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, Ben Ward <troop555eaglescout@...> wrote:
>
> What is this advancement newsletter are ya'll talking about and what website
can this be found on?
>
>
> Yours in Scouting,
>
>
>
>
> Ben Ward
>
>
>
>
>
> Eagle Scout Class 1999
> Heart of Virginia Council # 602
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bill <bnelson45@...>
> To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 12:53 PM
> Subject: [Scouter_T] New Eagle Project Workbook was: Introducing the Guide to
Advancement
>
>
>  
> Info from an advancement newsletter that came out Friday:
>
> The new workbook as a illable PDF document will be available shortly at
>
http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/BoyScouts/AdvancementandAwards/resources.asp\
x. Like the Guide to Advancement, it has been completely
> rewritten. The new workbook supports the revised wording in Eagle Scout
requirement 5, which calls for a project proposal to be approved by the council
or district, rather than "the project plan."
> Scouts have a choice to use either the new workbook or the one it is
replacing. If they have already had their Eagle Scout service project approved
by the council or district under the current wording of requirement 5, using the
current workbook, they should continue with
> the same workbook. If their project has not yet been approved by the council
or district, they may elect to use the new wording and the new workbook. For
Scouts who choose to use the new workbook, those approving Eagle Scout service
projects must evaluate projects accordingly, using the procedures outlined in
the Guide to Advancement, and judging candidates' project proposals.
>
> Those responsible for council or district project approval do not have the
authority to require use of the previous workbook edition if Scouts have elected
to use the new requirement and the new workbook.
> We are aware of issues some Eagle Scout candidates have encountered using
fillable PDF workbooks. Though we have taken some measures to improve the
fillable PDF, some may still experience difficulties with it. As a solution, we
are currently working toward a new approach to the workbook that may involve an
online, interactive, downloadable application. If testing proves it to be a
superior document, fully functional on virtually any operating system, we will
abandon the fillable PDF version. Regardless, the workbook will continue to be
> available for printing a hard copy that can be completed by hand or with a
typewriter.
>
> --- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, Connie Knie <cknie23100@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks so much for this. Being the RT commissioner, I love getting info I
can send out to my Scoutmasters. 
> > Quick question, what about a scout that starts the process in the fall and
will not be finished until after January? I suppose the answer is easy enough,
make sure he starts in the new book. But what with the speed word gets handed
down from alot of Council Advancement Committees (NOT). 
> > Or a scout that started even further back......you know how sometimes a
scout starts the process and then for some reason there is a long
stall...........  
> > Thanks
> >
> > Connie
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Connie ive been trying to go to that link and it keeps telling me there is no
such file? did BSA remove it already?


From: Bill <bnelson45@...>
To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 11:53 AM
Subject: [Scouter_T] New Eagle Project Workbook was: Introducing the Guide to
Advancement


 
Info from an advancement newsletter that came out Friday:

The new workbook as a illable PDF document will be available shortly at
http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/BoyScouts/AdvancementandAwards/resources.asp\
x. Like the Guide to Advancement, it has been completely
rewritten. The new workbook supports the revised wording in Eagle Scout
requirement 5, which calls for a project proposal to be approved by the council
or district, rather than "the project plan."
Scouts have a choice to use either the new workbook or the one it is replacing.
If they have already had their Eagle Scout service project approved by the
council or district under the current wording of requirement 5, using the
current workbook, they should continue with
the same workbook. If their project has not yet been approved by the council or
district, they may elect to use the new wording and the new workbook. For Scouts
who choose to use the new workbook, those approving Eagle Scout service projects
must evaluate projects accordingly, using the procedures outlined in the Guide
to Advancement, and judging candidates' project proposals.

Those responsible for council or district project approval do not have the
authority to require use of the previous workbook edition if Scouts have elected
to use the new requirement and the new workbook.
We are aware of issues some Eagle Scout candidates have encountered using
fillable PDF workbooks. Though we have taken some measures to improve the
fillable PDF, some may still experience difficulties with it. As a solution, we
are currently working toward a new approach to the workbook that may involve an
online, interactive, downloadable application. If testing proves it to be a
superior document, fully functional on virtually any operating system, we will
abandon the fillable PDF version. Regardless, the workbook will continue to be
available for printing a hard copy that can be completed by hand or with a
typewriter.

--- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, Connie Knie <cknie23100@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks so much for this. Being the RT commissioner, I love getting info I can
send out to my Scoutmasters. 
> Quick question, what about a scout that starts the process in the fall and
will not be finished until after January? I suppose the answer is easy enough,
make sure he starts in the new book. But what with the speed word gets handed
down from alot of Council Advancement Committees (NOT). 
> Or a scout that started even further back......you know how sometimes a scout
starts the process and then for some reason there is a long stall...........
 
> Thanks
>
> Connie




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Ernest, the sentence before the link says "will be available shortly at:"

Rick


On 10/9/2011 8:30 PM, Ernest Schmidt wrote:
>
> Connie ive been trying to go to that link and it keeps telling me
> there is no such file? did BSA remove it already?
>
> From: Bill <bnelson45@... <mailto:bnelson45%40hotmail.com>>
> To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 11:53 AM
> Subject: [Scouter_T] New Eagle Project Workbook was: Introducing the
> Guide to Advancement
>
>
> Info from an advancement newsletter that came out Friday:
>
> The new workbook as a illable PDF document will be available shortly at
>
http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/BoyScouts/AdvancementandAwards/resources.asp\
x.
> Like the Guide to Advancement, it has been completely
> rewritten. The new workbook supports the revised wording in Eagle
> Scout requirement 5, which calls for a project proposal to be approved
> by the council or district, rather than "the project plan."
> Scouts have a choice to use either the new workbook or the one it is
> replacing. If they have already had their Eagle Scout service project
> approved by the council or district under the current wording of
> requirement 5, using the current workbook, they should continue with
> the same workbook. If their project has not yet been approved by the
> council or district, they may elect to use the new wording and the new
> workbook. For Scouts who choose to use the new workbook, those
> approving Eagle Scout service projects must evaluate projects
> accordingly, using the procedures outlined in the Guide to
> Advancement, and judging candidates' project proposals.
>
> Those responsible for council or district project approval do not have
> the authority to require use of the previous workbook edition if
> Scouts have elected to use the new requirement and the new workbook.
> We are aware of issues some Eagle Scout candidates have encountered
> using fillable PDF workbooks. Though we have taken some measures to
> improve the fillable PDF, some may still experience difficulties with
> it. As a solution, we are currently working toward a new approach to
> the workbook that may involve an online, interactive, downloadable
> application. If testing proves it to be a superior document, fully
> functional on virtually any operating system, we will abandon the
> fillable PDF version. Regardless, the workbook will continue to be
> available for printing a hard copy that can be completed by hand or
> with a typewriter.
>
> --- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Connie Knie <cknie23100@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks so much for this. Being the RT commissioner, I love getting
> info I can send out to my Scoutmasters.Â
> > Quick question, what about a scout that starts the process in the
> fall and will not be finished until after January? I suppose the
> answer is easy enough, make sure he starts in the new book. But what
> with the speed word gets handed down from alot of Council Advancement
> Committees (NOT).Â
> > Or a scout that started even further back......you know how
> sometimes a scout starts the process and then for some reason there is
> a long stall........... Â
> > Thanks
> >
> > Connie
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Nope, if ya watch the video again please, it says this is better than the old
way; this new method when done correctly, they say, maintains constant blood
flow to the brain, and does not allow "interruption" as does tradition CPR
which, allegedly stops blood flow to the brain when breathing is done?
 
Understand we maintain an "alliance" with Red Cross, but everything they offer,
to include training, certifications, literature is NOT free, so any "options"
that work are a great idea, I'm thinkin???   This new method also seems easier
to teach as it's ONLY compressions; again, I'm not a doctor, but it is
"endorsed" already by many doctors themselves who should know, and really have
no specific "financial" conflict of interest as the Red Cross has.
 
Food for thought??? 
 

- Art
--- On Sun, 10/9/11, Bill <bnelson45@...> wrote:

From: Bill <bnelson45@...>
Subject: [Scouter_T] Re: New CPR Technique
To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 9, 2011, 9:41 AM



 




That was my take on it too. Thanks.

--- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, "Barb Zepp" <bzepp@...> wrote:
>
> This technique is only for untrained lay people. The best thing for you to do
is to find an American Heart Association CPR class and be fully trained. This
hands-only CPR was created to get people to at least give compressions, instead
of walking away, thereby increasing the chances of survival of the victim.
> Barbz
> AHA instructor
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill
> To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 6:04 PM
> Subject: [Scouter_T] New CPR Technique
>
>
>
> The video is very well done. All should benefit from this training. Especially
if you have had conventional CPR training.
>
> New CPR Technique
>
> You may have heard there is a new way to do CPR, but you may not have heard
the "why" behind it. This is a very important video regarding the latest CPR
procedure.....it is much simpler. Please take the time to watch and forward to
your friends and family if you haven't already done so. You never know, a life
may be saved utilizing this new procedure.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2fx8r59
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I have uploaded it to this Yahoo group.
Look under Files > The Training Continuum


--- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <bnelson45@...> wrote:
>
> The long-awaited—and much anticipated—new Guide
> to Advancement is finally finished. Your electronic copy
> can be accessed via this link: ...???

Thanks for that i missed it, went right over my head, But i am looking for a
Power point briefing on "Cyber bully" I am puting a class together for my 1st
Class soon to be scouts.


From: Rick Rambo <rickrambo58@...>
To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Scouter_T] New Eagle Project Workbook was: Introducing the Guide
to Advancement


 
Ernest, the sentence before the link says "will be available shortly at:"

Rick

On 10/9/2011 8:30 PM, Ernest Schmidt wrote:
>
> Connie ive been trying to go to that link and it keeps telling me
> there is no such file? did BSA remove it already?
>
> From: Bill <bnelson45@... <mailto:bnelson45%40hotmail.com>>
> To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 11:53 AM
> Subject: [Scouter_T] New Eagle Project Workbook was: Introducing the
> Guide to Advancement
>
>
> Info from an advancement newsletter that came out Friday:
>
> The new workbook as a illable PDF document will be available shortly at
>
http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/BoyScouts/AdvancementandAwards/resources.asp\
x.
> Like the Guide to Advancement, it has been completely
> rewritten. The new workbook supports the revised wording in Eagle
> Scout requirement 5, which calls for a project proposal to be approved
> by the council or district, rather than "the project plan."
> Scouts have a choice to use either the new workbook or the one it is
> replacing. If they have already had their Eagle Scout service project
> approved by the council or district under the current wording of
> requirement 5, using the current workbook, they should continue with
> the same workbook. If their project has not yet been approved by the
> council or district, they may elect to use the new wording and the new
> workbook. For Scouts who choose to use the new workbook, those
> approving Eagle Scout service projects must evaluate projects
> accordingly, using the procedures outlined in the Guide to
> Advancement, and judging candidates' project proposals.
>
> Those responsible for council or district project approval do not have
> the authority to require use of the previous workbook edition if
> Scouts have elected to use the new requirement and the new workbook.
> We are aware of issues some Eagle Scout candidates have encountered
> using fillable PDF workbooks. Though we have taken some measures to
> improve the fillable PDF, some may still experience difficulties with
> it. As a solution, we are currently working toward a new approach to
> the workbook that may involve an online, interactive, downloadable
> application. If testing proves it to be a superior document, fully
> functional on virtually any operating system, we will abandon the
> fillable PDF version. Regardless, the workbook will continue to be
> available for printing a hard copy that can be completed by hand or
> with a typewriter.
>
> --- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Connie Knie <cknie23100@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks so much for this. Being the RT commissioner, I love getting
> info I can send out to my Scoutmasters.Â
> > Quick question, what about a scout that starts the process in the
> fall and will not be finished until after January? I suppose the
> answer is easy enough, make sure he starts in the new book. But what
> with the speed word gets handed down from alot of Council Advancement
> Committees (NOT).Â
> > Or a scout that started even further back......you know how
> sometimes a scout starts the process and then for some reason there is
> a long stall........... Â
> > Thanks
> >
> > Connie
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Hi,

Does anyone have access to PowerPoint slides for the new "Introduction
to Leadership Skills for Troops
<http://www.scouting.org/filestore/training/pdf/ILST%20FINALS%202011%20-%20Item%\
20Number%20511-016.pdf>"
(ILST) training.

Thanks in advance.

Rich Perlman
CTC
WPC-BSA





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As a firefighter/emt, and a first aid/CPR instructor, I would urge that keeping
yourself updated is great, but that only qualified professionals should actually
be teaching these skills. And there are plenty of us who do this for free :)

Walking Softly,
Chris Pearson
Trainer/Consultant
Pearson Outdoor Education
www.pearsonoutdooreducation.com
(425) 686-9175


On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:14 AM, "A. Dukovic" <artdukovic@...> wrote:

> Nope, if ya watch the video again please, it says this is better than the old
way; this new method when done correctly, they say, maintains constant blood
flow to the brain, and does not allow "interruption" as does tradition CPR
which, allegedly stops blood flow to the brain when breathing is done?
>
> Understand we maintain an "alliance" with Red Cross, but everything they
offer, to include training, certifications, literature is NOT free, so any
"options" that work are a great idea, I'm thinkin???   This new method also
seems easier to teach as it's ONLY compressions; again, I'm not a doctor, but it
is "endorsed" already by many doctors themselves who should know, and really
have no specific "financial" conflict of interest as the Red Cross has.
>
> Food for thought???
>
>
> - Art
> --- On Sun, 10/9/11, Bill <bnelson45@...> wrote:
>
> From: Bill <bnelson45@...>
> Subject: [Scouter_T] Re: New CPR Technique
> To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, October 9, 2011, 9:41 AM
>
>
>
> That was my take on it too. Thanks.
>
> --- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, "Barb Zepp" <bzepp@...> wrote:
> >
> > This technique is only for untrained lay people. The best thing for you to
do is to find an American Heart Association CPR class and be fully trained. This
hands-only CPR was created to get people to at least give compressions, instead
of walking away, thereby increasing the chances of survival of the victim.
> > Barbz
> > AHA instructor
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bill
> > To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 6:04 PM
> > Subject: [Scouter_T] New CPR Technique
> >
> >
> >
> > The video is very well done. All should benefit from this training.
Especially if you have had conventional CPR training.
> >
> > New CPR Technique
> >
> > You may have heard there is a new way to do CPR, but you may not have heard
the "why" behind it. This is a very important video regarding the latest CPR
procedure.....it is much simpler. Please take the time to watch and forward to
your friends and family if you haven't already done so. You never know, a life
may be saved utilizing this new procedure.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/2fx8r59
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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Understood, but some councils/camps require the Red Cross "certification" and if
ya want that card, ya gotta pay for the books and course fees to be "legal"; as
a retired police officer, I taught this stuff too but again, if Red Cross was
going to "bless" my training, ya had to use THEIR materials which were pretty
expensive.
 
Lifesaving is one thing, but if it's NOT BSA approved, then you're on your
own IF there's a problem; now if it was me and I had a problem, I don't care
what saved my life as long as it works, but not everyone's like me folks??

- Art
--- On Mon, 10/10/11, Chris Pearson <ChristopherCPearson@...> wrote:

From: Chris Pearson <ChristopherCPearson@...>
Subject: Re: [Scouter_T] Re: New CPR Technique
To: "scouter_t@yahoogroups.com" <scouter_t@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, October 10, 2011, 1:01 PM



 



As a firefighter/emt, and a first aid/CPR instructor, I would urge that keeping
yourself updated is great, but that only qualified professionals should actually
be teaching these skills. And there are plenty of us who do this for free :)

Walking Softly,
Chris Pearson
Trainer/Consultant
Pearson Outdoor Education
www.pearsonoutdooreducation.com
(425) 686-9175

On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:14 AM, "A. Dukovic" <artdukovic@...> wrote:

> Nope, if ya watch the video again please, it says this is better than the old
way; this new method when done correctly, they say, maintains constant blood
flow to the brain, and does not allow "interruption" as does tradition CPR
which, allegedly stops blood flow to the brain when breathing is done?
>
> Understand we maintain an "alliance" with Red Cross, but everything they
offer, to include training, certifications, literature is NOT free, so any
"options" that work are a great idea, I'm thinkin??? This new method also seems
easier to teach as it's ONLY compressions; again, I'm not a doctor, but it is
"endorsed" already by many doctors themselves who should know, and really have
no specific "financial" conflict of interest as the Red Cross has.
>
> Food for thought???
>
>
> - Art
> --- On Sun, 10/9/11, Bill <bnelson45@...> wrote:
>
> From: Bill <bnelson45@...>
> Subject: [Scouter_T] Re: New CPR Technique
> To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, October 9, 2011, 9:41 AM
>
>
>
> That was my take on it too. Thanks.
>
> --- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, "Barb Zepp" <bzepp@...> wrote:
> >
> > This technique is only for untrained lay people. The best thing for you to
do is to find an American Heart Association CPR class and be fully trained. This
hands-only CPR was created to get people to at least give compressions, instead
of walking away, thereby increasing the chances of survival of the victim.
> > Barbz
> > AHA instructor
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bill
> > To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 6:04 PM
> > Subject: [Scouter_T] New CPR Technique
> >
> >
> >
> > The video is very well done. All should benefit from this training.
Especially if you have had conventional CPR training.
> >
> > New CPR Technique
> >
> > You may have heard there is a new way to do CPR, but you may not have heard
the "why" behind it. This is a very important video regarding the latest CPR
procedure.....it is much simpler. Please take the time to watch and forward to
your friends and family if you haven't already done so. You never know, a life
may be saved utilizing this new procedure.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/2fx8r59
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I am a Red Cross Instructor and I am an Authorized Provider for our local
council which means that I can teach the classes at a significantly lower price.
The Red Cross has restructured their Health and Safety group and with these
changes have made all of the materials available on line at no charge.  Now you
do not need the material.  They have even done away with the written test if the
instructor feels that the class has demonstrated the skills effectively

Rod

-----Original Message-----
From: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scouter_t@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
A. Dukovic
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 4:48 PM
To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Scouter_T] Re: New CPR Technique

Understood, but some councils/camps require the Red Cross "certification" and if
ya want that card, ya gotta pay for the books and course fees to be "legal"; as
a retired police officer, I taught this stuff too but again, if Red Cross was
going to "bless" my training, ya had to use THEIR materials which were pretty
expensive.

Lifesaving is one thing, but if it's NOT BSA approved, then you're on your own
IF there's a problem; now if it was me and I had a problem, I don't care what
saved my life as long as it works, but not everyone's like me folks??

- Art
--- On Mon, 10/10/11, Chris Pearson <ChristopherCPearson@...> wrote:

From: Chris Pearson <ChristopherCPearson@...>
Subject: Re: [Scouter_T] Re: New CPR Technique
To: "scouter_t@yahoogroups.com" <scouter_t@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, October 10, 2011, 1:01 PM







As a firefighter/emt, and a first aid/CPR instructor, I would urge that keeping
yourself updated is great, but that only qualified professionals should actually
be teaching these skills. And there are plenty of us who do this for free :)

Walking Softly,
Chris Pearson
Trainer/Consultant
Pearson Outdoor Education
www.pearsonoutdooreducation.com
(425) 686-9175

On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:14 AM, "A. Dukovic" <artdukovic@...> wrote:

> Nope, if ya watch the video again please, it says this is better than the old
way; this new method when done correctly, they say, maintains constant blood
flow to the brain, and does not allow "interruption" as does tradition CPR
which, allegedly stops blood flow to the brain when breathing is done?
>
> Understand we maintain an "alliance" with Red Cross, but everything they
offer, to include training, certifications, literature is NOT free, so any
"options" that work are a great idea, I'm thinkin??? This new method also seems
easier to teach as it's ONLY compressions; again, I'm not a doctor, but it is
"endorsed" already by many doctors themselves who should know, and really have
no specific "financial" conflict of interest as the Red Cross has.
>
> Food for thought???
>
>
> - Art
> --- On Sun, 10/9/11, Bill <bnelson45@...> wrote:
>
> From: Bill <bnelson45@...>
> Subject: [Scouter_T] Re: New CPR Technique
> To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, October 9, 2011, 9:41 AM
>
>
>
> That was my take on it too. Thanks.
>
> --- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, "Barb Zepp" <bzepp@...> wrote:
> >
> > This technique is only for untrained lay people. The best thing for you to
do is to find an American Heart Association CPR class and be fully trained. This
hands-only CPR was created to get people to at least give compressions, instead
of walking away, thereby increasing the chances of survival of the victim.
> > Barbz
> > AHA instructor
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bill
> > To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 6:04 PM
> > Subject: [Scouter_T] New CPR Technique
> >
> >
> >
> > The video is very well done. All should benefit from this training.
Especially if you have had conventional CPR training.
> >
> > New CPR Technique
> >
> > You may have heard there is a new way to do CPR, but you may not have heard
the "why" behind it. This is a very important video regarding the latest CPR
procedure.....it is much simpler. Please take the time to watch and forward to
your friends and family if you haven't already done so. You never know, a life
may be saved utilizing this new procedure.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/2fx8r59
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Rod, thanks for the update and I'm really glad they made the changes; we've had
an awful lot of folks that just could NOT afford it and this will certainly
help!!



- Art
--- On Mon, 10/10/11, Hotmail Rod <owlelope@...> wrote:

From: Hotmail Rod <owlelope@...>
Subject: RE: [Scouter_T] Re: New CPR Technique
To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 10, 2011, 7:23 PM



 



I am a Red Cross Instructor and I am an Authorized Provider for our local
council which means that I can teach the classes at a significantly lower price.
The Red Cross has restructured their Health and Safety group and with these
changes have made all of the materials available on line at no charge. Now you
do not need the material. They have even done away with the written test if the
instructor feels that the class has demonstrated the skills effectively

Rod

-----Original Message-----
From: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scouter_t@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
A. Dukovic
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 4:48 PM
To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Scouter_T] Re: New CPR Technique

Understood, but some councils/camps require the Red Cross "certification" and if
ya want that card, ya gotta pay for the books and course fees to be "legal"; as
a retired police officer, I taught this stuff too but again, if Red Cross was
going to "bless" my training, ya had to use THEIR materials which were pretty
expensive.

Lifesaving is one thing, but if it's NOT BSA approved, then you're on your own
IF there's a problem; now if it was me and I had a problem, I don't care what
saved my life as long as it works, but not everyone's like me folks??

- Art
--- On Mon, 10/10/11, Chris Pearson <ChristopherCPearson@...> wrote:

From: Chris Pearson <ChristopherCPearson@...>
Subject: Re: [Scouter_T] Re: New CPR Technique
To: "scouter_t@yahoogroups.com" <scouter_t@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, October 10, 2011, 1:01 PM

As a firefighter/emt, and a first aid/CPR instructor, I would urge that keeping
yourself updated is great, but that only qualified professionals should actually
be teaching these skills. And there are plenty of us who do this for free :)

Walking Softly,
Chris Pearson
Trainer/Consultant
Pearson Outdoor Education
www.pearsonoutdooreducation.com
(425) 686-9175

On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:14 AM, "A. Dukovic" <artdukovic@...> wrote:

> Nope, if ya watch the video again please, it says this is better than the old
way; this new method when done correctly, they say, maintains constant blood
flow to the brain, and does not allow "interruption" as does tradition CPR
which, allegedly stops blood flow to the brain when breathing is done?
>
> Understand we maintain an "alliance" with Red Cross, but everything they
offer, to include training, certifications, literature is NOT free, so any
"options" that work are a great idea, I'm thinkin??? This new method also seems
easier to teach as it's ONLY compressions; again, I'm not a doctor, but it is
"endorsed" already by many doctors themselves who should know, and really have
no specific "financial" conflict of interest as the Red Cross has.
>
> Food for thought???
>
>
> - Art
> --- On Sun, 10/9/11, Bill <bnelson45@...> wrote:
>
> From: Bill <bnelson45@...>
> Subject: [Scouter_T] Re: New CPR Technique
> To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, October 9, 2011, 9:41 AM
>
>
>
> That was my take on it too. Thanks.
>
> --- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, "Barb Zepp" <bzepp@...> wrote:
> >
> > This technique is only for untrained lay people. The best thing for you to
do is to find an American Heart Association CPR class and be fully trained. This
hands-only CPR was created to get people to at least give compressions, instead
of walking away, thereby increasing the chances of survival of the victim.
> > Barbz
> > AHA instructor
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bill
> > To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 6:04 PM
> > Subject: [Scouter_T] New CPR Technique
> >
> >
> >
> > The video is very well done. All should benefit from this training.
Especially if you have had conventional CPR training.
> >
> > New CPR Technique
> >
> > You may have heard there is a new way to do CPR, but you may not have heard
the "why" behind it. This is a very important video regarding the latest CPR
procedure.....it is much simpler. Please take the time to watch and forward to
your friends and family if you haven't already done so. You never know, a life
may be saved utilizing this new procedure.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/2fx8r59
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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If any of you are planning to be in the heart of the USA on Saturday,
November 5, 2011, you might consider dropping by the Heart of America
Council University of Scouting.  Complete information can be found at

http://www.hoac-bsa.org/Programs/Training/AdultLeaders/SupplementalTraining/Univ\
ersityofScouting.aspx

Would love to see you there.  You might even win a door prize - we give
away stuff all day long.

Judy Yeager
HOAC Training Chair

The Heart of American Council University of Scouting will have an
amateur radio station set up on November 5, 2011 with the call sign WOU
(W zero U).  Get on your radio and give us a call between 9:30 am and
2:30 pm, Central time.  We'd love to hear from you and you will receive
a QSL card following the event.

Judy Yeager
HOAC Council Training Chair

See if there is anything here you can use:
http://scouting.org/filestore/ppt/BULLYINGPREVENTION.ppt

--- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, Ernest Schmidt <eaglewarr7@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that i missed it, went right over my head, But i am looking for a
Power point briefing on "Cyber bully" I am puting a class together for my 1st
Class soon to be scouts.
>