Please indulge me another newcomer question...

We would like to become official SCA members, but how important is it that we
wait until we have chosen a name?  I see there is an optional slot for it on the
membership page.  I did not want to use our mundane names only and then forever
have all official documents and correspondence in those names.

Gratefully,
Shelley

Quoting Shelley <sheteaches@...>:

> Please indulge me another newcomer question...
>
> We would like to become official SCA members, but how important is
> it that we wait until we have chosen a name?  I see there is an
> optional slot for it on the membership page.  I did not want to use
> our mundane names only and then forever have all official documents
> and correspondence in those names.
>

All Official Documents with the registry Office are always in your
modern name.  Any SCA documents like awards scrolls would be in your
SCA name.  In the archives on this group, there's a "don't list" --
things not to do in your first year -- picking a name is on it; but
that's personal preference.  Some people come into the SCA knowing
what they want their name to be; others it takes a little longer.  And
some folks change their names!

jerusha
-----
Susan Farmer
sfarmer@...
Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College
Division of Science and Math
http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/

If it's *official*, you're probably better off having it addressed to your
legal names (saves the postal carrier a headache).  My experience is that
most forms, documents, &c. that pertain to your persona ask for both your
name and your persona (or society, or period, &c.) name.  To kind of put it
in perspective: you can register and use multiple persona names (meaning
that you're not stuck with a name).

YiS,
Ciaran

On 22 February 2010 13:15, Shelley <sheteaches@...> wrote:

> Please indulge me another newcomer question...
>
> We would like to become official SCA members, but how important is it that
> we wait until we have chosen a name? I see there is an optional slot for it
> on the membership page. I did not want to use our mundane names only and
> then forever have all official documents and correspondence in those names.
>


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It is not a required field for membership.  I have seen many cards at Troll that
don't have an actual SCA name on them.  In fact on the membership form itself it
specifically states "SCA Name: (Optional - For reference only. Society names are
registered through the College of Heralds.)

Once you have a name, you can either get a reprint of your card with your new
name on it or when you renew.

Sian
---- ui Cainnech <ocainnech@...> wrote:

=============
If it's *official*, you're probably better off having it addressed to your
legal names (saves the postal carrier a headache).  My experience is that
most forms, documents, &c. that pertain to your persona ask for both your
name and your persona (or society, or period, &c.) name.  To kind of put it
in perspective: you can register and use multiple persona names (meaning
that you're not stuck with a name).

YiS,
Ciaran

On 22 February 2010 13:15, Shelley <sheteaches@...> wrote:

> Please indulge me another newcomer question...
>
> We would like to become official SCA members, but how important is it that
> we wait until we have chosen a name? I see there is an optional slot for it
> on the membership page. I did not want to use our mundane names only and
> then forever have all official documents and correspondence in those names.
>


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Am I the only person that makes up names historical, or humorous or other wise
and fills them in on the sca name - for reference only line and has them printed
on my card ? I read several articles about choosing and sca name and being a
FOOL learned nothing except that they will print what ever you write in that
blank whither it is actually your registered sca name or not.

Vinco Viridis Sus 

Padhraig O' Cellachain




It is not a required field for membership. I have seen many cards at
Troll that don't have an actual SCA name on them. In fact on the
membership form itself it specifically states "SCA Name: (Optional -
For reference only. Society names are registered through the College of
Heralds.)



Once you have a name, you can either get a reprint of your card with your new
name on it or when you renew.



Sian

---- ui Cainnech <ocainnech@gmail. com> wrote:



============ =

If it's *official*, you're probably better off having it addressed to your

legal names (saves the postal carrier a headache).  My experience is that

most forms, documents, &c. that pertain to your persona ask for both your

name and your persona (or society, or period, &c.) name.  To kind of put it

in perspective: you can register and use multiple persona names (meaning

that you're not stuck with a name).



YiS,

Ciaran



On 22 February 2010 13:15, Shelley <sheteaches@comcast. net> wrote:


 
Please indulge me another newcomer question...


 
We would like to become official SCA members, but how important is it that
 
we wait until we have chosen a name? I see there is an optional slot for it
 
on the membership page. I did not want to use our mundane names only and
 
then forever have all official documents and correspondence in those names.





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Just to add fuel to the fire, I joind six years ago, and submitted my name four
years ago. My name became mine this past summer.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Shelley" <sheteaches@...>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:15:12
To: <scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [SCA Newcomers] SCA Membership

Please indulge me another newcomer question...

We would like to become official SCA members, but how important is it that we
wait until we have chosen a name?  I see there is an optional slot for it on the
membership page.  I did not want to use our mundane names only and then forever
have all official documents and correspondence in those names.

Gratefully,
Shelley




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On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 23:55 +0000, Callahan Patrick wrote:
> Am I the only person that makes up names historical, or humorous or
> other wise and fills them in on the sca name - for reference only line
> and has them printed on my card ? I read several articles about
> choosing and sca name and being a FOOL learned nothing except that
> they will print what ever you write in that blank whither it is
> actually your registered sca name or not.


Because the applications are processed by computer software (I know
because I helped write some of it), and the software doesn't recognize
the difference between real and humorous names.

"This damned computer! I wish they'd sell it.
Won't do what I want, just what I tell it!"

Justin

--
()xxxx[]::::::::::::::::::>                  <::::::::::::::::::[]xxxx()
Maistor Justinos Tekton called Justin (Scott Courtney)
Gules, on a bezant a fleam sable and on a chief dovetailed Or two keys
fesswise reversed sable.

justin@...                              http://4th.com/sca/justin/

Hello Fellow SCA Members.

I would like to know if it is ok .. to join a group outside of where you reside.
I was told last year that it was "correct" for you to join the grop where which
you live. But, my group is not a good group at all. I find them very rude. and
not nice to be around. and, i am afrid if this is the face of the sca .. then i
dont want to join the SCA.

You can play where ever you want. When you actually join you'll be
counted amongst your local group for census, but you certainly don't
have to play there. My GF lives in the Shire of Trinovantia Nova but
plays in the Barony of Ramshaven and rarely joins in on Shire meetings
or practices, primarily because Ramshaven is just where she is more
comfortable. I myself (also of the Shire) often go to Ramshaven
practices. It doesn't really matter where you play just that you enjoy
the game.

I have heard some say that you should only attend meetings in the area
you live, but have yet to see any SCA rules on this.

Cú Allaidh
Heavy Fighter, Sometimes Fencer, Occasional Archer, MBCIT
Mazer, working on being a Calligrapher, Maker of Torcs and Circlets
Member of the Bookbinders Guild of Ealdormere
Crewmember of the Good Ship Crimson Star
  From The Shire of Trinovantia Nova, in the great land of Ealdormere
mka Jeff Johnston


On 23-Feb-10, at 1:30 PM, anne_shisler78 wrote:

> Hello Fellow SCA Members.
>
> I would like to know if it is ok .. to join a group outside of where
> you reside. I was told last year that it was "correct" for you to
> join the grop where which you live. But, my group is not a good
> group at all. I find them very rude. and not nice to be around. and,
> i am afrid if this is the face of the sca .. then i dont want to
> join the SCA.
>
>
>


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Go play where you have fun. If you join your number will be counted among the
local group, but you are by no means required to talk to them.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "anne_shisler78" <anne_shisler78@...>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:30:41
To: <scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [SCA Newcomers] Northern IL

Hello Fellow SCA Members.

I would like to know if it is ok .. to join a group outside of where you reside.
I was told last year that it was "correct" for you to join the grop where which
you live. But, my group is not a good group at all. I find them very rude. and
not nice to be around. and, i am afrid if this is the face of the sca .. then i
dont want to join the SCA.




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You can play with whomever you wish to play with.

Hillary
Middle Kingdom Chatelaine






-----Original Message-----
From: anne_shisler78 <anne_shisler78@...>
To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 23, 2010 12:30 pm
Subject: [SCA Newcomers] Northern IL


Hello Fellow SCA Members.
I would like to know if it is ok .. to join a group outside of where you reside.
  was told last year that it was "correct" for you to join the grop where which
ou live. But, my group is not a good group at all. I find them very rude. and
ot nice to be around. and, i am afrid if this is the face of the sca .. then i
ont want to join the SCA.

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Ah, ha ha ha ha!!!  I never thought of that; and I'm usually a brat, that
way....   I left mine blank for several years while I 'tried on' personas and
garb, until I finally settled on a North African persona and had registered the
name...  Now my cards come with my 'official' SCA name on it, but I don't think
it's on the envelope sent via the post office...  Will have to LOOK at that,
next time...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Callahan Patrick" <callahanpatrick@...>
To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:55:11 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: Re: [SCA Newcomers] SCA Membership

 




Am I the only person that makes up names historical, or humorous or other wise
and fills them in on the sca name - for reference only line and has them printed
on my card ? I read several articles about choosing and sca name and being a
FOOL learned nothing except that they will print what ever you write in that
blank whither it is actually your registered sca name or not.

Vinco Viridis Sus 

Padhraig O' Cellachain

It is not a required field for membership. I have seen many cards at
Troll that don't have an actual SCA name on them. In fact on the
membership form itself it specifically states "SCA Name: (Optional -
For reference only. Society names are registered through the College of
Heralds.)

Once you have a name, you can either get a reprint of your card with your new
name on it or when you renew.

Sian

---- ui Cainnech <ocainnech@gmail. com> wrote:

============ =

If it's *official*, you're probably better off having it addressed to your

legal names (saves the postal carrier a headache). My experience is that

most forms, documents, &c. that pertain to your persona ask for both your

name and your persona (or society, or period, &c.) name. To kind of put it

in perspective: you can register and use multiple persona names (meaning

that you're not stuck with a name).

YiS,

Ciaran

On 22 February 2010 13:15, Shelley <sheteaches@comcast. net> wrote:

 
Please indulge me another newcomer question...

 
We would like to become official SCA members, but how important is it that
 
we wait until we have chosen a name? I see there is an optional slot for it
 
on the membership page. I did not want to use our mundane names only and
 
then forever have all official documents and correspondence in those names.

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Greets!

I am by no means an experienced member of the SCA, but can answer this based
upon my own experiences, hopefully.

I am heavily involved within my own local group but I do participate with other
groups as well as the neighboring Kingdom and a few groups there. I am on each
of the groups' emails lists for communication purposes and have received local
awards/thank you's within the neighboring groups as well as my own home group.

When it comes down to belonging to the group where you reside, then you are
pretty much a member via residence. That does not mean that you must play with
said group. I also know of many others who live elsewhere but come to play with
our local group. I also know that you can become an 'honorary member' of another
group through your participation in said groups.

I hope this helps. And I pray it did not confuse anyone who reads this as well.
(I tend to confuse people easily at times. LOL) If you have any questions,
please feel free to ask and I am more than happy to explain further.

Wishing you all a great day/night!
YIS,
-Dawn


From: anne_shisler78
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:30 PM
To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SCA Newcomers] Northern IL



Hello Fellow SCA Members.

I would like to know if it is ok .. to join a group outside of where you reside.
I was told last year that it was "correct" for you to join the grop where which
you live. But, my group is not a good group at all. I find them very rude. and
not nice to be around. and, i am afrid if this is the face of the sca .. then i
dont want to join the SCA.





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You don't have to choose your SCA name before you become a member.
 
YIS,
Kristen

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, Shelley <sheteaches@...> wrote:


From: Shelley <sheteaches@...>
Subject: [SCA Newcomers] SCA Membership
To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 12:15 PM


 



Please indulge me another newcomer question...

We would like to become official SCA members, but how important is it that we
wait until we have chosen a name? I see there is an optional slot for it on the
membership page. I did not want to use our mundane names only and then forever
have all official documents and correspondence in those names.

Gratefully,
Shelley











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Every organization has a few unsavory people.  I think it would be unfair to
judge the SCA as a whole, based upon those few individuals.  I would definitly
recommend trying another group before making a decision not to join...

Just my 2 cents...

Robert Bohler
"Ulrich of Greyfells"
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: anne_shisler78
   To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:30 PM
   Subject: [SCA Newcomers] Northern IL



   Hello Fellow SCA Members.

   I would like to know if it is ok .. to join a group outside of where you
reside. I was told last year that it was "correct" for you to join the grop
where which you live. But, my group is not a good group at all. I find them very
rude. and not nice to be around. and, i am afrid if this is the face of the sca
.. then i dont want to join the SCA.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello

Just wondering if  for my official SCA name, I have to have a first and last
name.  OR, can I just call myself "Ulrich of Greyfells", as I play within the
canton of Greyfells where nobody else is named Ulrich?

Thanks
Robert Bohler
"Ulrich ..............."



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On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 18:30 +0000, anne_shisler78 wrote:
> I would like to know if it is ok .. to join a group outside of where
> you reside. I was told last year that it was "correct" for you to join
> the grop where which you live.


You don't officially join a group; SCA membership is at the corporate
level, at least for the U.S. So your SCA membership is valid at any
kingdom and any local group.

There are certain situations, such as when the populace is polled by the
kingdom or by corporate to approve things like land boundary changes,
when your group-of-residence matters as to where you are eligible to
vote. Usually, even that situation has some flexibility if you can
attest that you "live over here but play over there."

Attendance at SCA activities in any group is open to any person who
complies with SCA and kingdom policy. That rule is in the Governing
Documents at the corporate level, in fact.


>  But, my group is not a good group at all. I find them very rude. and
> not nice to be around. and, i am afrid if this is the face of the
> sca .. then i dont want to join the SCA.


I'm sorry to hear you have had a bad experience. Different local groups,
being made up of different individuals, can have differing personalities
and group dynamics.

You are certainly welcome to play with any local group within whatever
driving distance you find reasonable. In fact, around here it is not
uncommon for someone to play with more than one group, because people go
where the activities are that you like to do. Our shire has a lot of A&S
and service-junkie types, but as yet only a few fighters and dancers.
But we have a lot of beekeepers. So someone wanting to dance might play
in a neighboring shire where they dance frequently, but might play with
us for the [unofficial] beekeeping guild.

Another thing to consider is whether you've met a full cross-section of
the populace of your local group. Maybe the people with whom you aren't
getting along are just a minority. It happens.

There are also cases in the SCA where people who are basically decent
folk simply have poor social graces around newcomers. Believe it or not,
I've encountered situations in which I felt unwelcome even though I was
an SCA veteran...and the reason was that the local group was full of
people who just didn't know how to welcome outsiders. They were nice
people, but it never occurred to them to introduce themselves or go out
of their way to welcome newcomers, because they were too comfortable
within their own circle of acquaintances. They didn't mean to be
unwelcoming; they just didn't know any better and didn't realize they
were giving that impression.

I won't presume to second-guess you on your experiences with the group.
As someone else said, within *any* large organization there are going to
be some bad apples. I find that the SCA is about 98% nice people and 2%
jerks -- but with 30,000 members, that translates to 600 jerks! Maybe
you have encountered a few of them. In that case, by all means find a
nicer circle of friends and avoid the bad apples. My intent here is not
to contradict you, but only to suggest that it may be more complex than
just people being intentionally rude. Perhaps they are rude without
intending to be, out of social ineptness.

But, returning to your original question, you are welcome to play in any
local group to which you are willing to commute.

Kind regards,

Justin

--
()xxxx[]::::::::::::::::::>                  <::::::::::::::::::[]xxxx()
Maistor Justinos Tekton called Justin (Scott Courtney)
Gules, on a bezant a fleam sable and on a chief dovetailed Or two keys
fesswise reversed sable.

justin@...                              http://4th.com/sca/justin/

I'm not a hearld, but I think or placename name works.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Robert Bohler" <robler2@...>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:13:15
To: <scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [SCA Newcomers] SCA names question

Hello

Just wondering if  for my official SCA name, I have to have a first and last
name.  OR, can I just call myself "Ulrich of Greyfells", as I play within the
canton of Greyfells where nobody else is named Ulrich?

Thanks
Robert Bohler
"Ulrich ..............."



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Hello,
You can use one or the other.  We have several people in my barony with names
like Michael of Seleone.  So it's perfectly acceptable.  Hope this helps.
 
Kristen

--- On Tue, 2/23/10, Robert Bohler <robler2@...> wrote:


From: Robert Bohler <robler2@...>
Subject: [SCA Newcomers] SCA names question
To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:13 PM


 



Hello

Just wondering if for my official SCA name, I have to have a first and last
name. OR, can I just call myself "Ulrich of Greyfells", as I play within the
canton of Greyfells where nobody else is named Ulrich?

Thanks
Robert Bohler
"Ulrich ............ ..."

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On 23 Feb 2010, at 12:30 PM, anne_shisler78 wrote:

> Hello Fellow SCA Members.
>
> I would like to know if it is ok .. to join a group outside of where you
reside. I was told last year that it was "correct" for you to join the grop
where which you live. But, my group is not a good group at all. I find them very
rude. and not nice to be around. and, i am afrid if this is the face of the sca
.. then i dont want to join the SCA.

As it's been told to me, your geography places you in Kingdom A, Barony B, Shire
C. Your heart may place you in Kingdom X, Barony Y, Shire Z. You have the right
to play anywhere that you enjoy, though for practical reasons, it's wise to play
with a group that you can join physically at least a few times a year -- no use
calling yourself a member of Lochac (Australia and New Zealand) if you live in
Drachenwald (Europe)!

All that said, though, I hope it's not northern Illinois that you find rude.
Admittedly I'm new and I don't know very many people in this area, but the
people that I have met (I'm in northern Illinois, Chicago to be exact) were
uniformly polite, welcoming, enthusiastic, and knowledgeable and/or trying to
become more so. I hope that you and I haven't met, so that I wouldn't be one of
the ones contributing to your current impression of us. I also hope that you get
a chance to meet more people so that whoever the rude ones are can be shown to
be in the minority.
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Quoting Robert Bohler <robler2@...>:

> Hello
>
> Just wondering if  for my official SCA name, I have to have a first
> and last name.  OR, can I just call myself "Ulrich of Greyfells", as
>  I play within the canton of Greyfells where nobody else is named
> Ulrich?
>

Absolutely.  The concept of "surname" is really only a late period
concept.  "Ulrich the tailor of Greyfells" -- I'm not a herald, but
it's my understanding that by-names and place-names were the rule
rather than the exception for most of the SCA period.

jerusha (who originally started out as Jerusha of Kilgore and then
turned it into a surname)
-----
Susan Farmer
sfarmer@...
Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College
Division of Science and Math
http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/

> I would like to know if it is ok .. to join a group outside of where you
reside. I was told last year that it was "correct" for you to join the grop

I had the same problem when I tried to get together with the local group in the
new are we moved to.


I talked to my daughters who have been in the SCA 20 years and they said go to
another group.

The local SCA group in the are we moved is a want to be group, not establish.

The couple have been in SCA a while and have their top recognition in what ever
it is they do.  They have tried to organize a group with no success.

Problem I found is they give a double faced invitation.  Like "drop by to see us
any time, but we are busy most of the time."    Trying to schedule a meeting
with them was the pits. They would give us a day only to cancel and this
happened many times.

We do not mind helping people when we can but the first time we met they
eyeballed what we had and asked for us to help them do this and that.

I was so disappointing I did not even join the SCA.   Then we had some major
changes in our lives and had a lot to do and no  time for the SCA.  Now that our
lives are settled we are burned out by the local group and would love to just
join the group in the adjoining state.

We came from a group were our daughter ran the local group and had many
activities planned.  Always had a group of SCA members at the house.   Had a
monthly get together.  She also said when she started the old people were set in
their ways and did not want to change them.  That she had to form her own group
of the younger ones who still had life in them.

So back to the question can a new SCA member join out of the area where the new
SCA member lives?

I should read ahead as maybe this has been answered.

Shelley asked:

<<< Please indulge me another newcomer question...>>>

Certainly. I believe that answering such questions is one of the
purposes of this group and I'm sure that for whatever question you are
asking there are others here who might like to ask it, but don't know
they have that question or are afraid to speak up.

<<< We would like to become official SCA members, but how important is
it that we wait until we have chosen a name?  I see there is an
optional slot for it on the membership page.  I did not want to use
our mundane names only and then forever have all official documents
and correspondence in those names. >>>

As others have explained, your SCA persona stuff is separate from your
21st Century membership. This is because, among other things, it can
take a year for your name or your device to wind it's way through the
procedure, even if it gets approved the first time.

I do recommend that folks work on their first name fairly soon after
beginning to play. This keeps folks from first learning your regular
name and then quickly having to learn another. You don't however need
a full name or even that first name serve as an officer or get an
award. Your AOA (Award of Arms) is likely to be the first SCA award
you get. My AOA scroll is made out to "Stephen of Bryn Gwlad" because
I hadn't registered or even figured out the rest of my name, much less
its correct spelling at that time. I believe I had already been or was
about to be my barony's Minister of A&S.

For more on AoAs:
Earng-Your-AoA-art (6K)  4/18/02  "Earning your AoA in the SCA" by Lady
                                       Meliora Leuedai de Ardescote.
http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/Earng-Your-AoA-art.html
Getting-an-AoA-art (9K)  6/22/98  "How to Get an AoA" by Gunnora
Hallakarva.
http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/Getting-an-AoA-art.html

Stefan
--------
THLord Stefan li Rous    Barony of Bryn Gwlad    Kingdom of Ansteorra
     Mark S. Harris           Austin, Texas          StefanliRous@...
**** See Stefan's Florilegium files at:  http://www.florilegium.org ****

Hello again,
As I've been told the only stupid question is the one left unasked - I'll go
ahead and ask this one.
Could I get an overview and explanation of the SCA. I know the SCA website
probably has the information, but it's so much easier to understand and has so
many more details when you get info straight from the source. Thanks for any
help!

Elizabeth

Has anyone ever heard of or done business with Bald Mountain Moccasins in
Forestville, CA? My friend and I came by a pair by inheritance, so I looked up
the name on the tag. My computer didn't want to access the web-address I found;
so I'm looking for any info. Suggestions on other good places for boots and
clothes are appreciated as well.

Elizabeth

I used to be a Chatelain in the Northern, IL area.  I'm now back in the Middle
Kingdom in South Central Indiana.

First of all as you have already been told, you are more than welcome to play in
the SCA where ever you would like.  If you wish you may contact me off list and
I will be happy to make contacts for you in the other groups in Northern
Illinois.

Secondly, having been in the SCA off and on for some many years it has been my
experience that most groups are good groups but not all groups are proactive
about welcoming newcomers and instead some choose to let the newcomer "warm-up"
to them.  This of course in my opinion is the wrong way to go about it. And then
of course there can just be personality conflicts.

As I said, please feel free to contact me and I will be happy to make contacts
for you in the Northern Illinois area.

Lord Ian the Green

--- In scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com, "anne_shisler78" <anne_shisler78@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello Fellow SCA Members.
>
> I would like to know if it is ok .. to join a group outside of where you
reside. I was told last year that it was "correct" for you to join the grop
where which you live. But, my group is not a good group at all. I find them very
rude. and not nice to be around. and, i am afrid if this is the face of the sca
.. then i dont want to join the SCA.
>

http://www.scademo.com/index.php  Give this a look, I have found it to be
very helpful.

Baavgai Monh (Ron Osceola)

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:24 AM, caring4thelittlethings <
caring4thelittlethings@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hello again,
> As I've been told the only stupid question is the one left unasked - I'll
> go ahead and ask this one.
> Could I get an overview and explanation of the SCA. I know the SCA website
> probably has the information, but it's so much easier to understand and has
> so many more details when you get info straight from the source. Thanks for
> any help!
>
> Elizabeth
>
>
>



--
Ron Osceola

http://ronsmagic.com
804.385.0485


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Bald Mountain Moccasins are a RenFaire vendor - they sell their custom made
moccasins at Renaissance faires around the country - I've seen them at
Bristol, near Chicago/Milwaukee, and at the Sarasota Medieval Faire in
Florida.
I believe I saw them at Jubilee RenFaire/SCA event, one year.

They make moccasins to order, custom fit to your feet - I'm given to
understand that they are very comfortable.
They support their merchandise, and will re-sole their moccasins as the
soles wear out, according to their manufacturer's warrantee, which I do not
know any details about - only what friends have told me.
Because their moccasins are custom made to one person's foot, I would be
cautious about wearing them - if they don't feel quite right, they may have
accommodated some peculiarity of the original owner's foot - that's one of
the reasons they are so very popular.

What they are not, as far as I can tell, is in any way period to any time or
region that the SCA covers.

All my info is second hand, observed from friends and acquiantances who have
purchased Bald Mt Moccasins; I don't have a pair myself.
(When I wanted them, I didn't have the money, once I had the money, I wanted
more period looking shoes.)
Any other Ex-rennies out there with more info?

Tabitha Pennywarden
Ravenslake, Midlands
Middle Kingdom

   -----Original Message-----
   From: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of caring4thelittlethings
   Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 12:28 AM
   To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [SCA Newcomers] Bald Mountain Moccasins



   Has anyone ever heard of or done business with Bald Mountain Moccasins in
Forestville, CA? My friend and I came by a pair by inheritance, so I looked
up the name on the tag. My computer didn't want to access the web-address I
found; so I'm looking for any info. Suggestions on other good places for
boots and clothes are appreciated as well.

   Elizabeth






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Greetings,

I'd have to say, yes, it is okay.  In fact, when I first joined I played with a
group that was 50 miles away from the group I technically belonged to.  I did so
because I had fun with the second group, and learned quite a bit from them.

The main thing is: this is a hobby.  If you are with a group that is making it
difficult to enjoy the hobby, then find some people you want to be around. 
Start hanging around them, and enjoy!

In Service to the West,
Staffan Arffuidsson


--- In scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com, "mry.wlsn" <mry.wlsn@...> wrote:

< I would like to know if it is ok .. to join a group outside of where you
reside. I was told last year that it was "correct" for you to join the grop >

I had the same problem when I tried to get together with the local group in the
new are we moved to.


I talked to my daughters who have been in the SCA 20 years and they said go to
another group.

The local SCA group in the are we moved is a want to be group, not establish.

The couple have been in SCA a while and have their top recognition in what ever
it is they do.  They have tried to organize a group with no success.

Problem I found is they give a double faced invitation.  Like "drop by to see us
any time, but we are busy most of the time."    Trying to schedule a meeting
with them was the pits. They would give us a day only to cancel and this
happened many times.


We do not mind helping people when we can but the first time we met they
eyeballed what we had and asked for us to help them do this and that.

I was so disappointing I did not even join the SCA.   Then we had some major
changes in our lives and had a lot to do and no time for the SCA.  Now that our
lives are settled we are burned out by the local group and would love to just
join the group in the adjoining state.

We came from a group were our daughter ran the local group and had many
activities planned.  Always had a group of SCA members at the house.   Had a
monthly get together.  She also said when she started the old people were set in
their ways and did not want to change them.  That she had to form her own group
of the younger ones who still had life in them.

So back to the question can a new SCA member join out of the area where the new
SCA member lives?

I should read ahead as maybe this has been answered.

Greetings,

I have not used them, but found information regarding their web site.  According
to the following link, they have closed.  There is someone using their patterns
(with permission), but that company is not running any more.

http://www.wench.org/forums/showthread.php?t=29051

In Service to the West,
Staffan Arffuidsson


--- In scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com, "caring4thelittlethings"
<caring4thelittlethings@...> wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever heard of or done business with Bald Mountain Moccasins in
Forestville, CA? My friend and I came by a pair by inheritance, so I looked up
the name on the tag. My computer didn't want to access the web-address I found;
so I'm looking for any info. Suggestions on other good places for boots and
clothes are appreciated as well.
>
> Elizabeth
>