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#27572 From: Erin Kelly <tupan4@...>
Date: Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: Archery
tupan4
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If you are in range of Pennsic, there's a vendor there called Yumi who
specializes in Japanese archery. Also, many of my colleagues in Clan
YamaKaminari have experience with Japanese archery, both in target
shooting and in SCA combat - stop by our camp if you make it to
Pennsic and we can find someone to talk with you about it.

ERIN

#27573 From: David Holt <kenjutsuka@...>
Date: Wed Feb 2, 2011 6:02 am
Subject: RE: [SCA-JML] Re: Archery
jdmcowan
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I've done ZNKR Kyudo (at the Indiana Kyudo Renmei), Heki Ryu Bishu Chikurin-ha
Kyudo, and modern western-style sport archery. I still practice them all, but am
not currently taking instruction in any. I did enjoy my training in Indiana, but
it was a long drive from Chicago. For someone with not much patience, it might
be a good way to learn and practice patience.

Kyujutsu is theoretically more combat oriented than Kyudo, but it's not a hard
and fast rule. With no enemies to shoot at for the past 400 years, all the
-jutsu arts have become very similar to the -do arts. I have been working on
removing the ritual from the Kyudo I know to see how it might work as a martial
art.

I disagree that western and Japanese archery are so different. So many of the
basics are the same (relax your shoulders and hands, use your back instead of
your arms, be consistent in your movements, don't hurry your movements, etc.).
The differences are in the details (use your fingers or your thumb, arrow on the
left or on the right, pull to the midbody or full arm length, pull from the
front or from above, etc.). If I shoot both western and Japanese on the same
day, it takes me a moment to get used to each one, but then I can easily switch
back and forth. I particularly don't like the modern Kyudo glove, though. I wear
a thick leather gardening glove now. I wouldn't have to remove it if I had to
switch to my sword and if I decided to remove it, it would take 2 seconds
instead of 2 minutes. I hear the Yabusame gloves are much softer, thinner, and
more flexible, so I might see if I can find one of those the next time I'm in
Japan.

But I can't speak to how any of it works for historical accuracy or SCA
purposes.

#27574 From: "macvkiller" <macvkiller@...>
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 7:47 am
Subject: Armor 4 sale
macvkiller
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List,
My name is Robert Rodgers and I have what I would consider a dress armor for
sale. Made about 4 years ago by the Samurai Store in Japan, the only problem
with it is the storage box was damaged during shipment. The armor is 13th to
14th century and made mostly from handmade steel. Laced correctly and painted
properly. The armor is a bit small for me. It was listed as better fitting for
someone under 5' 11" and less than 200 lbs. I am listing it at 600.00 or best
offer. Photos on request. Please email me at macvkiller@... if interested.
Thanks a bunch
Regards,
Robert Rodgers

#27575 From: "chagin1" <chagin1@...>
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 9:40 pm
Subject: Re: Archery
chagin1
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--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, Chibasama Ryúichiro <chiba@...> wrote:
>
> While they are very well used kneeling, the design of the yumi was for use
> on a horseback.
>
> Live, Love, Learn!
> -Chiba

This I doubt.  Archeological evidence shows asymmetrical bows buried in graves
before the horse was introduced into Japan.  The design predates the horse.

Takanofuji Jutte

#27576 From: JL Badgley <tatsushu@...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2011 3:48 am
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Archery
tatsushu
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On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:40 AM, chagin1 <chagin1@...> wrote:
>
> This I doubt.  Archeological evidence shows asymmetrical bows buried in graves
before the horse was introduced into Japan.  The design predates the horse.
>
Can you come up with dates and cites?  I'd be interested in what you
have, because that isn't a claim I recall seeing before.

From what I can see, the assymetric bow occurs across central Eurasia,
in one form or another--I'm not sure what the oldest dates of bows and
horses are, though.  I've also seen some theories that it has more to
do with power generation than it has to do with horseback riding.


-Ii

#27577 From: richard johnson <rikjohnson39@...>
Date: Tue Feb 8, 2011 10:31 pm
Subject: Totally off-topic
rikjohnson39
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But still beautiful!

Mother Nature remains the consummate artist.

http://Rick-Johnson.webs.com/ice.htm <http://rick-johnson.webs.com/ice.htm>


--
Rick Johnson
http://Rick-Johnson.webs.com
"Those who give up a little freedom in return for a little imagined security
will soon find that they have neither."


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#27578 From: John Lyon <toramassa@...>
Date: Wed Feb 9, 2011 9:56 pm
Subject: Cooking a SCA feast with Japanese Flair
toramassa
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My question is a pretty simple one right out of the gate. My shire is going
to be hosting a Japanese event in November, and I don't really have any good
ideas as to what would go into a Feast appropriate for a Japanese themed
Event. I don't have any real experience cooking but know many good cooks,
who only are familiar with Western dishes. So if you could point me in the
right direction to start looking for recipes, ideas for courses, etc. I
would be very greatful.

--
"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I
thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible
things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I
take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."
-Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5

John Lyon
aka The Ugly Dragon
aka Kita Jiru Toramassa


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#27579 From: Ben Overmyer <manatrance@...>
Date: Wed Feb 9, 2011 9:59 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Cooking a SCA feast with Japanese Flair
ssjcrono
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justhungry.com is one of my favorite resources for Japanese recipes.

YIS,
Godric
--
Godric Alburne | Keythong Herald of Northshield

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:56 PM, John Lyon <toramassa@...> wrote:

>
>
> My question is a pretty simple one right out of the gate. My shire is going
> to be hosting a Japanese event in November, and I don't really have any
> good
> ideas as to what would go into a Feast appropriate for a Japanese themed
> Event. I don't have any real experience cooking but know many good cooks,
> who only are familiar with Western dishes. So if you could point me in the
> right direction to start looking for recipes, ideas for courses, etc. I
> would be very greatful.
>
> --
> "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I
> thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible
> things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I
> take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the
> universe."
> -Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5
>
> John Lyon
> aka The Ugly Dragon
> aka Kita Jiru Toramassa
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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#27580 From: "LJonthebay" <wodeford@...>
Date: Wed Feb 9, 2011 10:41 pm
Subject: Re: Cooking a SCA feast with Japanese Flair
wodeford
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--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, John Lyon <toramassa@...> wrote:
>
> My question is a pretty simple one right out of the gate. My shire is going
> to be hosting a Japanese event in November, and I don't really have any good
> ideas as to what would go into a Feast appropriate for a Japanese themed
> Event.

http://fibers.destinyslobster.com/Japanese/Food/japfood.htm may be a good place
to start looking.

Saionji no Hana
West Kingdom

#27581 From: "merlyn_elzebeth" <athanasiaseraphina@...>
Date: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:38 pm
Subject: Re: Cooking a SCA feast with Japanese Flair
merlyn_elzebeth
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My barony just held a Japanese event back in late October. Our feast was much
talked about for some time afterwards as one of the best many had had. (To toot
my feast stewards' horn, not my own as my cooking makes my cats cry.) If you
would like, I can try to get the menu and recipes (or at least the sources).

Himitsu

#27582 From: "merlyn_elzebeth" <athanasiaseraphina@...>
Date: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: Cooking a SCA feast with Japanese Flair
merlyn_elzebeth
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To add: Here is the online site flyer. The menu is posted towards the bottom.
http://www.brynmadoc.org/danelaw19.html

Himitsu

--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, "merlyn_elzebeth" <athanasiaseraphina@...>
wrote:
>
> My barony just held a Japanese event back in late October. Our feast was much
talked about for some time afterwards as one of the best many had had. (To toot
my feast stewards' horn, not my own as my cooking makes my cats cry.) If you
would like, I can try to get the menu and recipes (or at least the sources).
>
> Himitsu
>

#27583 From: Michelle Touketto <ladygwenhwyvar@...>
Date: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Cooking a SCA feast with Japanese Flair
gwenhwyvar...
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I would be interested in source material(s) for future reference for A&S
documentation and what not!

Gwen

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:41 AM, merlyn_elzebeth <
athanasiaseraphina@...> wrote:

>
>
> To add: Here is the online site flyer. The menu is posted towards the
> bottom.
> http://www.brynmadoc.org/danelaw19.html
>
> Himitsu
>
>
> --- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, "merlyn_elzebeth" <athanasiaseraphina@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > My barony just held a Japanese event back in late October. Our feast was
> much talked about for some time afterwards as one of the best many had had.
> (To toot my feast stewards' horn, not my own as my cooking makes my cats
> cry.) If you would like, I can try to get the menu and recipes (or at least
> the sources).
> >
> > Himitsu
> >
>
>
>



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"All knowledge is worth having."  Anafiel Delaunay, Kushiel's Dart.


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#27584 From: "LJonthebay" <wodeford@...>
Date: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:31 pm
Subject: Re: Cooking a SCA feast with Japanese Flair
wodeford
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I do not own this book, but it sounds like it might be worth acquiring in the
near future.

Japanese Foodways, Past and Present, Edited by Eric C. Rath and Stephanie
Assmann
http://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/catalog/58gbc6aa9780252035630.html

Saionji no Hana
West Kingdom

#27585 From: Solveig Throndardottir <nostrand@...>
Date: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:46 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Cooking a SCA feast with Japanese Flair
drnostrand
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Noble Cousin!

Greetings from Solveig! The basic outline for a honzen style feast can be seen
in Yama no Uchi Ryori Sho which is in ZGR 19.3. Rath reprints part of this stuff
in one of his two just released books, but I forget which one at the moment. The
most important tray is of course the first one.

On the first tray is a bowl of Rice (left front - near the diner) and Soup
(right front - near the diner) and 3 or 5 additional dishes arranged away from
the diner. Each tray should have a soup. The menu must include Japanese pickles
(e.g., pickled daikon and pickled eggplant).

The honzen banquet (with a collection of trays all sitting in front of each
individual diner) is an ideal. Regardless, rice, soup, and pickled vegetables
are pretty much required.

If you are looking for a modern Japanese cookbook. Japanese Cooking: A Simple
Art by Shizuo Tsuji is the best one out there.

Your Humble Servant
Solveig Throndardottir
Amateur Scholar

#27586 From: Solveig Throndardottir <nostrand@...>
Date: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:53 pm
Subject: ISBN for ZGR 19.3
drnostrand
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Noble Cousins!

Greetings from Solveig! I forgot to mention the ISBN for ZGR 19.3 it is
4-7971-0077-X
ZGR is one of the standard manuscript collections used in Japanese studies.

Your Humble Servant
Solveig Throndardottir
Amateur Scholar

#27587 From: "LJonthebay" <wodeford@...>
Date: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: Cooking a SCA feast with Japanese Flair
wodeford
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--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, Solveig Throndardottir <nostrand@...> wrote:
> If you are looking for a modern Japanese cookbook. Japanese Cooking: A Simple
Art by Shizuo Tsuji is the best one out there.

This one I DO have and it's a great resource on modern Japanese cuisine.

Saionji no Hana

#27588 From: Michelle Touketto <ladygwenhwyvar@...>
Date: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:45 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Cooking a SCA feast with Japanese Flair
gwenhwyvar...
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I'll have to look for this one, but for modern, I greatly enjoyed Japanese
Women Don't Get Old or Fat by Naomi Moriyama.  My husband, the one
supposedly so interested in Japanese culture, etc, couldn't handle all the
"fishy" stuff, that's such a large part of Japanese food.

Gwen

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:27 PM, LJonthebay <wodeford@...> wrote:

>
>
> --- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, Solveig Throndardottir <nostrand@...>
> wrote:
> > If you are looking for a modern Japanese cookbook. Japanese Cooking: A
> Simple Art by Shizuo Tsuji is the best one out there.
>
> This one I DO have and it's a great resource on modern Japanese cuisine.
>
> Saionji no Hana
>
>
>



--
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#27589 From: "Carey Gorla" <agnesvonh@...>
Date: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:40 pm
Subject: Under Kasode sleaves?
agnesvonh
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Ok so I am making my boyfriend, the actual Japanese persona, an under kasode to
give him an extra layer for when it's cold. I have made him 1 regular outfit so
far and it came out ok. What I'm wondering is when I'm making an inner layer to
wear what should I do with the sleeves? I'm not sure if I should make it so it
is similar to the regular Kasode sleeves or if I should make them more like a
modern long sleeve. Does anyone have any suggestions? I appreciate any help you
can provide.
Anges von Heidelberg

#27590 From: "LJonthebay" <wodeford@...>
Date: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: Under Kosode sleeves?
wodeford
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--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, "Carey Gorla" <agnesvonh@...> wrote:
> What I'm wondering is when I'm making an inner layer to wear what should I do
with the sleeves?

Make them the same size/shape as the outer layer. They should nest inside the
layer(s) over them.

(Besides, having things you can swap around as inner/outer layers gives you a
much more versatile wardrobe!)

Saionji no Hana
West Kingdom

#27591 From: JL Badgley <tatsushu@...>
Date: Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:02 am
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Under Kosode sleeves?
tatsushu
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On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:12 AM, LJonthebay <wodeford@...> wrote:
>
> --- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, "Carey Gorla" <agnesvonh@...> wrote:
>> What I'm wondering is when I'm making an inner layer to wear what should I do
with the sleeves?
>
> Make them the same size/shape as the outer layer. They should nest inside the
layer(s) over them.
>
> (Besides, having things you can swap around as inner/outer layers gives you a
much more versatile wardrobe!)
>

I'm going to complicate things (sorry ahead of time): What outfit does
he currently have?

Generally speaking, follow Saionji-hime's advice--make the sleeves the
same as the ones you currently have.  "Tube" sleeves are appropriate
(especially for late period fighting or lower class garments), but it
depends on what you are making (and what he currently has).

-Ii

#27592 From: Carey Gorla <agnesvonh@...>
Date: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Under Kosode sleeves?
agnesvonh
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Thanks. This is meant to be moderate court garb. I forget what the name of the
outer layer is that goes over his kasode, it looks sort of like a vest. But I'm
also making him a new set of garb with hakama and Hitatare that this may go
under as well. I'll go ahead with the matched sleeves. But it is good to know
where "tube" sleeves belong.
Agnes




________________________________
From: JL Badgley <tatsushu@...>
To: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 7:02:47 PM
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Under Kosode sleeves?


On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:12 AM, LJonthebay <wodeford@...> wrote:
>
> --- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, "Carey Gorla" <agnesvonh@...> wrote:
>> What I'm wondering is when I'm making an inner layer to wear what should I do
>>with the sleeves?
>
> Make them the same size/shape as the outer layer. They should nest inside the
>layer(s) over them.
>
> (Besides, having things you can swap around as inner/outer layers gives you a
>much more versatile wardrobe!)
>

I'm going to complicate things (sorry ahead of time): What outfit does
he currently have?

Generally speaking, follow Saionji-hime's advice--make the sleeves the
same as the ones you currently have.  "Tube" sleeves are appropriate
(especially for late period fighting or lower class garments), but it
depends on what you are making (and what he currently has).

-Ii






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#27593 From: JL Badgley <tatsushu@...>
Date: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:43 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Under Kosode sleeves?
tatsushu
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On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Carey Gorla <agnesvonh@...> wrote:
> Thanks. This is meant to be moderate court garb. I forget what the name of the
> outer layer is that goes over his kasode, it looks sort of like a vest. But
I'm
> also making him a new set of garb with hakama and Hitatare that this may go
> under as well. I'll go ahead with the matched sleeves. But it is good to know
> where "tube" sleeves belong.

For kataginu sugata (any outfit with the sleeveless "kataginu"--looks
like a vest, but it isn't sewn up the sides) then you would have the
standard kosode and and under kosode with the rounded sleeves, I
suspect.  Ditto for the hitatare sugata, unless it is a hitatare for
going under armour (which can vary, depending on time and place).

-Ii

#27594 From: "faherman2003" <faherman@...>
Date: Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:49 pm
Subject: Purchasing Japanese garb
faherman2003
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For those of us who are really, really terrible at sewing, are there any good
sources from which to purchase Japanese garb?  (I'm specifically thinking of
commoner/peasant-style clothing, rather than armor, possibly Nara-era.)

Thanks.

Fredrick the Dark

#27595 From: Charles Dodge <greek_nakos@...>
Date: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:06 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Purchasing Japanese garb
greek_nakos
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Takara Hayashida recently started doing Japanese Garb commisions under Firefly
Designs. Hopefully she will see this and reply as well.
 
Nakos


--- On Mon, 2/14/11, faherman2003 <faherman@...> wrote:


From: faherman2003 <faherman@...>
Subject: [SCA-JML] Purchasing Japanese garb
To: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 1:49 PM


 



For those of us who are really, really terrible at sewing, are there any good
sources from which to purchase Japanese garb? (I'm specifically thinking of
commoner/peasant-style clothing, rather than armor, possibly Nara-era.)

Thanks.

Fredrick the Dark











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#27596 From: "JESSICA DODGE" <kaythiarain@...>
Date: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:08 am
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Purchasing Japanese garb
kaythiarain
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You may contact me at firefly_designs@...
you can also find firefly designs on facebook.
I do all types of non armor japanese clothing and costumes.
Yis,
Helena Panier (aka Takara Hayashida)
-----Original Message-----
Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:07:36 am
To: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
From: "Charles Dodge" <greek_nakos@...>
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Purchasing Japanese garb

Takara Hayashida recently started doing Japanese Garb commisions under Firefly
Designs. Hopefully she will see this and reply as well.
 
Nakos


--- On Mon, 2/14/11, faherman2003 <faherman@...> wrote:


From: faherman2003 <faherman@...>
Subject: [SCA-JML] Purchasing Japanese garb
To: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 1:49 PM


 



For those of us who are really, really terrible at sewing, are there any good
sources from which to purchase Japanese garb? (I'm specifically thinking of
commoner/peasant-style clothing, rather than armor, possibly Nara-era.)

Thanks.

Fredrick the Dark











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#27597 From: "onewringgold@..." <onewringgold@...>
Date: Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:19 pm
Subject: Wokou/wako question
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Just curious if anyone knows of any good resources on Japanese pirates, also
known as "wokou" or "wako".  Thanks,Aoyama
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#27598 From: "onewringgold@..." <onewringgold@...>
Date: Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:42 pm
Subject: Salt trade article
onewringgold@...
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Hope this comes through, as for some reason I can only post through email and
can't upload via the website. This is an article on the salt trade between Japan
and Korea that I've stumbled across and wanted to share.
http://oregonstate.edu/dept/IIFET/2000/papers/matsuda.pdf Aoyama Narime
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#27599 From: JL Badgley <tatsushu@...>
Date: Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:58 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Wokou/wako question
tatsushu
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Unfortunately, not really.  Japanese source don't tend to focus on
them that much, and most of what I've come across so far is the
official notices from China and elsewhere requesting that Japan stop
their pirates from preying on foreign vessels.  That said, I also ran
across some indications that not all Japanese pirates were
Japanese--that is, at least in SE Asia, "Japanese pirates" became
enough of a stock phrase for just about any foreign Asian pirates
whose identity you didn't know (quite the reputation, when you think
about it).

You may also want to search on "kaizoku".

-Ii

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> Just curious if anyone knows of any good resources on Japanese pirates, also
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#27600 From: barontakeda@...
Date: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:11 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Wokou/wako question
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Just finished reading "When China Ruled the Seas" by Louise Lavathes; ISBN
0-19-511207-5.
The Wako are mentioned several times in the book.


sayonara,
Takeda Yoshinaka Danshaku



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#27601 From: Randy Shughart <randall_shughart@...>
Date: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Wokou/wako question
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This website: http://www.chineselongsword.com/
has videos and sword manuals from the time when the Wokou/Wako attacked China
during the Ming Dynasty


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From: barontakeda@... <barontakeda@...>
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Wokou/wako question
To: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 19 February, 2011, 9:11 PM


 



Just finished reading "When China Ruled the Seas" by Louise Lavathes; ISBN
0-19-511207-5.
The Wako are mentioned several times in the book.

sayonara,
Takeda Yoshinaka Danshaku

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> Just curious if anyone knows of any good resources on Japanese pirates, also
>known as "wokou" or "wako". Thanks,Aoyama
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