drat - meant to trim the bottom of that message. :-( sorry

  -Jennifer





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�"�"にちは! (konnichi wa-Good afternoon)

I'm a brand new SCA participant and am interested in fashioning my persona into
a Japanese one. I haven't even chosen a name yet though. I have a modern
Japanese name that I like to use, Choukou (寵幸), but where might I look for a
name that would be fitting for use in the SCA too?

敬具, (Keigu-Sincerely yours)
Anna

--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, "josta7" <grizzy7@...> wrote:
>
> �"�"にちは! (konnichi wa-Good afternoon)
>
> I'm a brand new SCA participant and am interested in fashioning my persona
into a Japanese one. I haven't even chosen a name yet though. I have a modern
Japanese name that I like to use, Choukou (寵幸), but where might I look for a
name that would be fitting for use in the SCA too?

First of all, welcome!

Second of all, please be sure to visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sca-jml/
and click on the "Links" and "Files" at the left of your screen. They include
name resources and a number of other things that should be useful to you.

When choosing a name, be sure to think about gender, social class and period you
want to have your persona from. That will help.

Saionji no Hanae
West Kingdom

Noble Cousins!

Greetings from Solveig! Tables of named seasonal two color
combinations are available from several different reference works.
Such tables frequently show up with color illustrations in kogojiten
and guides to classical literature. The general consensus among
sources is that there were color combinations for Summer just like
other seasons.

Here are color combinations for Summer: http://www.demoivre.org/Japan/
textiles/combinations/Summer/
Here are color combinations for all year: http://www.demoivre.org/
Japan/textiles/combinations/AllYear/

Regardless, there is ample reason to believe that court ladies were
colorful during the Summer.

Your Humble Servant
Solveig Throndardottir
Amateur Scholar

Noble Cousin!

Greetings from Solveig! Welcome to the "mad house" err conversation
yes that's it. Anyway. You could ask your local herald if they know
someone with a copy of "Name Construction in Medieval Japan". Heralds
are generally more friendly than they are given credit for and often
try to be helpful. You can even consult with an online consulting
community called the Academy of St. Gabriel. Regardless, I very much
agree with the first piece of advice that you already received from
this mailing list. Think about the when and who you are and use that
as a springboard for designing your name. You may want to check out
the costume museum for clothing ideas while you are doing this.
Generally speaking, women in the Society prefer to recreate the late
Heian and early Kamakura period while men tend more toward the late
Muromachi period. That said. There are plenty of exceptions. Date
dono is from the early Muromachi and I believe that Ii dono is from
the Heian period.

Your Humble Servant
Solveig Throndardottir
Amateur Scholar

Throndardottir-sensei, Saionji-sama,

Haikei! I am sad to see that the hiragana and kanji didn't translate well over
the email. /sigh/

I'm glad that I've been directed to the resources on the left; I hadn't realized
they were actually listed here on the group list site! ^^

I am considering trying to form a name from my profession... this would be
appropriate, yes? Is there a particular period that I should look to for this? I
am also asking our herald, when I can get a hold of him; but there is an event
coming up this month (the 19th).  I'm told if I don't have a name chosen by the
time I present myself, I'm in danger of possibly having one assigned to me. E!

I am looking forward to studying all the many resources you all have made
available here! Doumo arigatou gozaimasu!

Kashiko,
Anna

--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, Solveig Throndardottir <nostrand@...> wrote:
>
> Noble Cousin!
>
> Greetings from Solveig! Welcome to the "mad house" err conversation
> yes that's it. Anyway. You could ask your local herald if they know
> someone with a copy of "Name Construction in Medieval Japan". Heralds
> are generally more friendly than they are given credit for and often
> try to be helpful. You can even consult with an online consulting
> community called the Academy of St. Gabriel. Regardless, I very much
> agree with the first piece of advice that you already received from
> this mailing list. Think about the when and who you are and use that
> as a springboard for designing your name. You may want to check out
> the costume museum for clothing ideas while you are doing this.
> Generally speaking, women in the Society prefer to recreate the late
> Heian and early Kamakura period while men tend more toward the late
> Muromachi period. That said. There are plenty of exceptions. Date
> dono is from the early Muromachi and I believe that Ii dono is from
> the Heian period.
>
> Your Humble Servant
> Solveig Throndardottir
> Amateur Scholar
>

--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, "josta7" <grizzy7@...> wrote:

> Haikei! I am sad to see that the hiragana and kanji didn't translate well over
the email. /sigh/

It's possible Yahoogroups can't handle it.

> I'm told if I don't have a name chosen by the time I present myself, I'm in
danger of possibly having one assigned to me. E!

Don't you believe it. Don't let anyone bulldoze you into rushing or getting
stuck with something you do not absolutely love. If necessary, go politely and
selectively deaf when someone addresses you by something you do not care to
answer to. ;-D

I don't know how much you know about Japan before 1600, but having an idea of
time period and social class will help when it comes to researching names. Is
there anything in particular that attracts you? Clothing styles? Literature?
Fighting?

In the meantime, this link is a good place to start:
http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/miscellany/miscellany.html

Saionji no Hanae
West Kingdom

This is the lead story in Google about the Washington DC snowstorm,
courtesy of the Times of Asia.

http://www.timesasia.net/state-of-emergency-pennsylvania-heavy-snow-fall-washing\
ton-dc-snowfall-updated-59531639.htm

All the Mid-Atlantic States are beneath the emergency accompaniment due
to astringent snow abatement from Friday. The places beneath the
emergency action are Maryland, Ohio, Delaware and Pennsylvania. People
in these areas are adversity a lot of as they are heavily abased on the
accustomed gas food and heating oil.

The ballsy snowstorm has alongside brought the activity into arrest in
Pennsylvania. The letters of alley accidents accept as well added due to
this affectionate of bad acclimate condition. A ancestor and son died
calm in alley blow on bright artery in Southwestern Virginia while
allowance addition motorist. According to Virginia accompaniment police,
a lot of of acclimate accompanying accidents appear aboriginal in the
morning. In artery 81 in Wythe County, car came to larboard biking lane
as it spun out of ascendancy in arctic lanes.

According to acclimate forecast, 20 ??“ 30 inches of blast is accepted
in this season. A lot of of the Government offices in Washington
bankrupt 4 hours aboriginal that appointed time today due to affliction
acclimate conditions. Situation is absolutely bad in southern New Jersey
and a lot of of the areas in Virginia. Airlines casework were abominably
afflicted and even some railway casework were canceled due to snowfall.

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And people wonder why there is confusion in th world...




Dr. Raymond Zentz

It is better to die a free man, than to live, a slave.





-----Original Message-----
From: Sonny Scott <onesoni@...>
To: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2010 12:59 pm
Subject: [SCA-JML] In the News





This is the lead story in Google about the Washington DC snowstorm,
courtesy of the Times of Asia.

http://www.timesasia.net/state-of-emergency-pennsylvania-heavy-snow-fall-washing\
ton-dc-snowfall-updated-59531639.htm

All the Mid-Atlantic States are beneath the emergency accompaniment due
to astringent snow abatement from Friday. The places beneath the
emergency action are Maryland, Ohio, Delaware and Pennsylvania. People
in these areas are adversity a lot of as they are heavily abased on the
accustomed gas food and heating oil.

The ballsy snowstorm has alongside brought the activity into arrest in
Pennsylvania. The letters of alley accidents accept as well added due to
this affectionate of bad acclimate condition. A ancestor and son died
calm in alley blow on bright artery in Southwestern Virginia while
allowance addition motorist. According to Virginia accompaniment police,
a lot of of acclimate accompanying accidents appear aboriginal in the
morning. In artery 81 in Wythe County, car came to larboard biking lane
as it spun out of ascendancy in arctic lanes.

According to acclimate forecast, 20 ??“ 30 inches of blast is accepted
in this season. A lot of of the Government offices in Washington
bankrupt 4 hours aboriginal that appointed time today due to affliction
acclimate conditions. Situation is absolutely bad in southern New Jersey
and a lot of of the areas in Virginia. Airlines casework were abominably
afflicted and even some railway casework were canceled due to snowfall.

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It was a ballsy snowstorm, indeed.

Kuro/Danabren


> The ballsy snowstorm has alongside brought the activity into arrest in
> Pennsylvania. The letters of alley accidents accept as well added due to
> this affectionate of bad acclimate condition.

So I was wondering, did warriors in Period Japan have common battle crys?  I'm
pretty sure "Bonzai!" is not period, anyone know?

  In Honor and Service,
Uesugi no Ryujuichiro Uchiyasu
House Chiburi





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--- On Sat, 2/13/10, Bryant Richards <ninjalikereflex@...> wrote:

       So I was wondering, did warriors in Period Japan have common battle crys? 
I'm pretty sure "Bonzai!" is not period, anyone know?

Uesugi no Ryujuichiro Uchiyasu

First, I suggest you are actually asking about the exclamation "Banzai" (ten
thousand years) as opposed to "bonzai" (miniature trees).

And indeed, I believe the exclamation "banzai" is period, and very similar to  
the latin "vivat" (singular) or "vivant" (plural) used in East Kingdom courts
(and in medieval sources).

I can't lay my hands any definitive documentation for "banzai" at the moment,
but perhaps someone more versed in Japanese language history can cite something.

Ki no Izumi

On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Jennifer Kobayashi >
> I can't lay my hands any definitive documentation for "banzai" at the moment,
but perhaps someone more versed in Japanese language history can cite something.
>
I could swear I've seen it... don't know if it was for the Emperor at
the time.  The cry means "10,000 Years", and is a wish for longevity,
so I imagine it would appropriate for many people.

The biggest problem I could see is that its appropriation in the early
20th century has possibly laid various meanings upon it beyond the
original, which may not present favorably to a modern audience.

-Ii

--- On Sat, 2/13/10, JL Badgley <tatsushu@...> wrote:
__________________________
From: JL Badgley <tatsushu@...>
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Battle Cry
To: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:03 AM

I could swear I've seen it... don't know if it was for the Emperor at
the time.  The cry means "10,000 Years", and is a wish for longevity,
so I imagine it would appropriate for many people.
______________________________

Well I have found a period use, but not as a battle cry.

It is used in the Rohei text "Kashin Reigetsu", which is sometimes attributed to
the Chinese poet Hsieh Yen of the T'ang dynasty or sometimes to Minamoto no
Hideaki (811-950)
This information is from _Rohei: The Medieval Court Songs of Japan_ by Eta
Harich-Schneider Sophia University Press, Tokyo 1965
The song is a court song of congratulation.

Ki no Izumi

Happy Chinese New Year!
新年快樂!
Chúc Mừng Năm Mới!
สวัสดีตรุษจีน!
お正月明けましておめでとうございます！

Welcome to the Year of the Tiger!

ー井伊勝盛

Another foray into women's headgear in Japan!

I don't remember previous discussion of these ladies in Maple Viewers.
http://www.tnm.jp/en/servlet/Con?&pageId=E16&processId=01&col_id=A10470&img_id=C\
0042444&ref=&Q1=&Q2=&Q3=&Q4=&Q5=&F1=&F2=
(If that doesn't work, try this URL: http://tinyurl.com/yl3omm8)
The woman in plaid and the woman in orange stripes are wearing hats that look
like white eboshi with long, untied ties.  Anyone know what those are?

The woman (?) in black seems to be a nun, so her headgear is out for me.  There
are women in straw hats, but I need more hair coverage.

See, I'm trying to go all Japanese for Gulf Wars. (It's remarkable how many more
accessories you need when you're switching cultures with your outfits!) Normally
I don't have a problem with my gaijin hair hanging out, but at the moment it's
dyed colors not naturally found in hair, and that just strikes me as too overtly
modern for an SCA event.  Not in the proper spirit of things.  My European
outfits all have head coverings, but Japanese, not so much.

I've worn the "standard" black eboshi with my "boy clothes" but that doesn't
seem right when I'm dressed as a woman.  I have a reasonable facsimile of a
sando-gasa for sun protection, but I don't have a good way to transport it to
Gulf Wars, and anyway it doesn't cover all my hair.

So, these maple viewing ladies - does that hat mean anything? I've never noticed
it before*, and don't remember seeing it elsewhere.  I don't want to make one
and then find out it means I'm a prostitute or something....

ERIN

* Admittedly, maybe I'm not very observant - I never noticed that one of the
women is breast-feeding either!  I've even seen this painting in real
life...sigh.

To me, they don't look so much like the black lacquered eboshi as they do the
katsura-tsusumi, as in this picture:
http://www.iz2.or.jp/english/fukusyoku/busou/25.htm
Aoyama Narime

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "ErinK" <tupan4@...>
To: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SCA-JML] Women's Hats (again)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:15:27 -0000


Another foray into women's headgear in Japan!

I don't remember previous discussion of these ladies in Maple Viewers.
http://www.tnm.jp/en/servlet/Con?&pageId=E16&processId=01&col_id=A10470&img_id=C\
0042444&ref=&Q1=&Q2=&Q3=&Q4=&Q5=&F1=&F2=
(If that doesn't work, try this URL: http://tinyurl.com/yl3omm8)
The woman in plaid and the woman in orange stripes are wearing hats that look
like white eboshi with long, untied ties. Anyone know what those are?

The woman (?) in black seems to be a nun, so her headgear is out for me. There
are women in straw hats, but I need more hair coverage.

See, I'm trying to go all Japanese for Gulf Wars. (It's remarkable how many more
accessories you need when you're switching cultures with your outfits!) Normally
I don't have a problem with my gaijin hair hanging out, but at the moment it's
dyed colors not naturally found in hair, and that just strikes me as too overtly
modern for an SCA event. Not in the proper spirit of things. My European outfits
all have head coverings, but Japanese, not so much.

I've worn the "standard" black eboshi with my "boy clothes" but that doesn't
seem right when I'm dressed as a woman. I have a reasonable facsimile of a
sando-gasa for sun protection, but I don't have a good way to transport it to
Gulf Wars, and anyway it doesn't cover all my hair.

So, these maple viewing ladies - does that hat mean anything? I've never noticed
it before*, and don't remember seeing it elsewhere. I don't want to make one and
then find out it means I'm a prostitute or something....

ERIN

* Admittedly, maybe I'm not very observant - I never noticed that one of the
women is breast-feeding either! I've even seen this painting in real
life...sigh.



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--- On Mon, 2/15/10, onewringgold@... <onewringgold@...> wrote:

> To me, they don't look so much like
> the black lacquered eboshi as they do the katsura-tsusumi,
> as in this picture:
> http://www.iz2.or.jp/english/fukusyoku/busou/25.htm

>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
http://www.tnm.jp/en/servlet/Con?&pageId=E16&processId=01&col_id=A10470&img_id=C\
0042444&ref=&Q1=&Q2=&Q3=&Q4=&Q5=&F1=&F2=
> (If that doesn't work, try this URL: http://tinyurl.com/yl3omm8)
  Anyone know what those are?
>
--- On Mon, 2/15/10, onewringgold@... <onewringgold@...> wrote
in reply:

> To me, they don't look so much like
> the black lacquered eboshi as they do the katsura-tsusumi,
> as in this picture:
> http://www.iz2.or.jp/english/fukusyoku/busou/25.htm


They appear to me to be a less exaggerated (and so probably real life) form of
the headgear that men playing women wear in kyogen - the "binan-boshi":
http://www2.ntj.jac.go.jp/unesco/noh/en/kg_plays/kg_plays03.html

As I understand it, they are basically long broad bands of white tied around the
head with trailing ends.

-Ki no Izumi

Noble Cousins!

Greetings from Solveig!
> First, I suggest you are actually asking about the exclamation
> "Banzai" (ten thousand years) as opposed to "bonzai" (miniature
> trees).
I believe that the miniature trees are called bonsai.
> And indeed, I believe the exclamation "banzai" is period, and very
> similar to   the latin "vivat" (singular) or "vivant" (plural) used
> in East Kingdom courts (and in medieval sources).
Banzai is a cheer which was particularly popular in the imperial army
and navy. If you are looking for a more medieval cheer, then go with
"HAY HAY HOE" which is the cheer that you hear in the movie Kagemusha.

When meeting on the battlefield, you can engage in nanori, followed
by an exchange of arrows, followed by an exchange on horseback, and
possibly culminating on foot. This is the sort of thing enshrined in
Noh plays such as Atsumori which is in turn based on an incident in
Heike Monogatari. The nanori is declaring your name. You may choose
to not declare your name if you consider your opponent to likely be
unworthy. During actual combat, you should expect such typical shouts
such as "HAH!" and what nought that you might encounter during a
kendou match. Banzai did not show up in the kogojiten I just
consulted. The term "banzairaku" (if I am recalling it correctly) is
a technical term in gagaku music.

Your Humble Servant
Solveig Throndardottir
Amateur Scholar

Ki no Izumi hime!

Greetings from Solveig!

> They appear to me to be a less exaggerated (and so probably real
> life) form of the headgear that men playing women wear in kyogen -
> the "binan-boshi":
> http://www2.ntj.jac.go.jp/unesco/noh/en/kg_plays/kg_plays03.html


You stole my thunder. That is precisely what they look like to me.
Can I talk you into kyogen this Summer at Pennsic or will you be too
busy with Bill the Bard?

Your Humble Servant
Solveig Throndardottir
Amateur Scholar

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Solveig Throndardottir
<nostrand@...> wrote:

> Banzai is a cheer which was particularly popular in the imperial army
> and navy. If you are looking for a more medieval cheer, then go with
> "HAY HAY HOE" which is the cheer that you hear in the movie Kagemusha.

"Ei! Ei!  Ooooooooo!" is how I've always heard it.  Make sure that you
lead the first two cheers and then the host (everyone else) should
yell the last "Oooooooooo!" together. (Note for non-Japanese speakers:
  "Ei" rhymes with "Day" and "O" rhymes with "Oh".

> When meeting on the battlefield, you can engage in nanori, followed
> by an exchange of arrows, followed by an exchange on horseback, and
> possibly culminating on foot. This is the sort of thing enshrined in
> Noh plays such as Atsumori which is in turn based on an incident in
> Heike Monogatari. The nanori is declaring your name. You may choose
> to not declare your name if you consider your opponent to likely be
> unworthy. During actual combat, you should expect such typical shouts
> such as "HAH!" and what nought that you might encounter during a
> kendou match.

Do you think that you would have heard the formalized kiai on the
ancient battlefield?  I've often wondered about that.  I do several
arts, and they all have slightly different takes on kiai.

-Ii

Ii dono!

Greetings from Solveig! I suspect that they did engage in kiai due to
the psychological and physiological effects of engaging in kiai.
Note. A good kiai is really only one or two sounds. Physiologically,
they help focus your breathing. The psychological aspects are equally
obvious. Among other things, banzai is just two long. It has four
count them four mora! Maybe you can shout banzai when running, but
not when actually fighting. The same goes for hei hei hoooo. These
are actually cheers and not something you would shout while actually
engaged in combat. As for "formalized kiai". I doubt that they would
be formalized. Shouting things would be more a matter of personal
habit. As for calling blows like in kendou, NAH! That is just about
unthinkable on the battlefield.

Your Humble Servant
Solveig Throndardottir
Amateur Scholar

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Solveig Throndardottir
<nostrand@...> wrote:
> Note. A good kiai is really only one or two sounds. Physiologically,

But it can be a prolonged yell, held through multiple attacks, or no
sound at all.  Depending on the school, some teach to vocalize a kiai,
and others to internalize it.  This, in part, makes me wonder where it
comes from and whether we have evidence of early kiai vocalizations.
I'll have to check Yagyu and Miyamoto to see if either of them contain
reference to it; Takuan may also be useful.  Though post-period, I
would take a lack of  their discussion of it as a point against,
though not entirely ruling it out.  Draeger might say something on the
subject.

I suspect people yelled on the battlefield; I just wonder if they would kiai.


-Ii

--- On Mon, 2/15/10, Solveig Throndardottir <nostrand@...> wrote:

Can I talk you into kyogen this Summer at Pennsic or will you be too
busy with Bill the Bard?
______________________________

I'm hoping we will actually be at Pennsic this year assuming college schedules
allow. I'm certainly interested in kyogen and would love to do it. I will
probably be doing I Sebastiani (the greatest commedia dell'arte troupe in the
entire world) and possibly Knowne World Chorus (which rehearses every day
usually) so it depends on the schedule...but I'll see what I can do.

Ki no Izumi/Gwendolyn/Jennifer

Awesome, they do look like those. Thanks!

Do we have any other evidence that regular ladies wore them?  (Do I need any
other evidence?)

The reason I said eboshi is because I think the pattern is similar - a center
seam down the top of the head and a front band.  My clan wear a lot of floppy
eboshi, so I'm used to seeing them flat.  This hat is obviously more roomy.

ERIN

--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, Solveig Throndardottir <nostrand@...> wrote:
>
> Ki no Izumi hime!
>
> Greetings from Solveig!
>
> > They appear to me to be a less exaggerated (and so probably real
> > life) form of the headgear that men playing women wear in kyogen -
> > the "binan-boshi":
> > http://www2.ntj.jac.go.jp/unesco/noh/en/kg_plays/kg_plays03.html
>
>
> You stole my thunder. That is precisely what they look like to me.
...
>
> Your Humble Servant
> Solveig Throndardottir
> Amateur Scholar
>

Since the subject is about...
has anyone any clue as to where to get a Japanese straw hat, the wide and short
ones?
Rather than the smaller, pointier Vietnamese style?

And now the difficult part... any idea where to get them in Australia?

much appreciated

Kenji

Yamamoto Kenjiro Yoshimitsu

call me coyote, call me raven, call me something else
youd be right, youd be wrong!
Find something worth dying for, and LIVE for it!







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That's the perennial question!  Here is the stock answer.

You're probably talking about a san-do gasa, that seems to be the hat we all
lust after these days. (Like Samurai Jack wears, if you had that show in your
country.)

This company offers them online, but they are quite pricey:
http://www.shop-japan.co.jp/english-boku/warring5-s.htm

In Australia, you must have friends traveling to Japan all the time, right?
There are tons of Australians there!  But actually I don't know for sure where
to buy one in Japan ... I think there is a costume shop near Sensoji in Asakusa
(Tokyo), but prices are similar (and I didn't find that shop when I was there
last year).

I found some cheap ones in Soko Hardware in San Francisco several years ago, but
since they don't have a web site that probably doesn't help you.

ERIN

--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, coyote Silverpaw <ancientone@...> wrote:
>
> Since the subject is about...
> has anyone any clue as to where to get a Japanese straw hat, the wide and
short ones?
> Rather than the smaller, pointier Vietnamese style?
>
> And now the difficult part... any idea where to get them in Australia?
>
> much appreciated
>
> Kenji
>
> Yamamoto Kenjiro Yoshimitsu

You can also try the e-budostore.com site.
gerard




________________________________
From: ErinK <tupan4@...>
To: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 1:22:32 PM
Subject: [SCA-JML] Re: Talking of hats...

 
That's the perennial question! Here is the stock answer.

You're probably talking about a san-do gasa, that seems to be the hat we all
lust after these days. (Like Samurai Jack wears, if you had that show in your
country.)

This company offers them online, but they are quite pricey: http://www.shop-
japan.co. jp/english- boku/warring5- s.htm

In Australia, you must have friends traveling to Japan all the time, right?
There are tons of Australians there! But actually I don't know for sure where to
buy one in Japan ... I think there is a costume shop near Sensoji in Asakusa
(Tokyo), but prices are similar (and I didn't find that shop when I was there
last year).

I found some cheap ones in Soko Hardware in San Francisco several years ago, but
since they don't have a web site that probably doesn't help you.

ERIN

--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups .com, coyote Silverpaw <ancientone@ ...> wrote:
>
> Since the subject is about...
> has anyone any clue as to where to get a Japanese straw hat, the wide and
short ones?
> Rather than the smaller, pointier Vietnamese style?
>
> And now the difficult part... any idea where to get them in Australia?
>
> much appreciated
>
> Kenji
>
> Yamamoto Kenjiro Yoshimitsu







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Anyone have any thoughts about how to create this headgear? I've just been
winging it by just wearing a white kerchief in the Western style but if I can
wear a better "hat"...

--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, "onewringgold@..." <onewringgold@...> wrote:
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> To me, they don't look so much like the black lacquered eboshi as they do the
katsura-tsusumi, as in this picture:
> http://www.iz2.or.jp/english/fukusyoku/busou/25.htm
> Aoyama Narime
>

--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, "booknerd9" <Booknerd9@...> wrote:
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> Anyone have any thoughts about how to create this headgear? I've just been
winging it by just wearing a white kerchief in the Western style but if I can
wear a better "hat"...

http://vixenvintage.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-to-tie-40s-headscarf.html shows how
to do a basic "Rosie the Riveter" tie with the knot at the crown of the head and
it's quite easy to do (if you have long hair, pin it up first). To replicate the
look of the katsura-me on the KCM site, I would simply suggest you use a much
larger square of fabric.

Saionji no Hanae
West Kingdom