In a message dated 98-10-23 01:42:42 EDT, you write:

<< http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi/mb61398
   >>
i like your brother's web site    It's www.theodishbelief.com   better for
manuverablilty is is more user friendly.

btw I was teasing you, trying to get you to improve it a bit. I hope you
caught that "come on guys" bit.

In Frith,

Sheila

I purchased a hammer about a year ago from  an ad in the back of "Yggdraisal"
a company with "dragon" in the name. I dont get the publication. Anyone know
what i am taking about? The hammer i am looking to find again is about 1 inch
and is silver, looks rather like an ornate anchor to those who are not Heathen
or Pagan. Does anyone know of any jewlery sites if they dont get Yggdraisal or
know how i can get in touch with that publication again?

Wassail!
sheila

<FontFamily><param>Times New Roman</param>Wesað eall hal!


Thought I'd try to get some talk going on this list again. And what a
better subject than Anglo-Saxon poetry.  No not <italic>Deor's Lament</italic>
or
<italic>Beowulf</italic>, but modern compositions.


I have been composing in Anglo-Saxon for about for years now.
Winifred Hodge of the Ealdriht does also, and I understand that
Theodish Belief has quite the corpus of Anglo-Saxon material.  And if
course the Theodsman Ælfric has even recorded two albums of beautiful
songs in A-S.


Below is an example of one of my poems.  I have also written prayers and
songs.

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Wóh ic séo - wranges wer mara láðlic,

gód ne tó cuman - Godu aweg hwéofað,

sícað fréondas wærum - wuniað on hira scyldig.

Ne blisse fulfremednes - híwbeorht,

Wyrd bist stán ceald - wræc bist líf,

geræce lyfte - od forawere lufe.

Styrme heofonríce - ond gespurne God,

líf bist láð - lufu bist lyre.

Ésageard ic cume - cígende godum,

andswarum ic wille -Wóden sprec!

Hwæt ic tellan - frécennes geearnian,

ic þéowe gód -ic bidde godu,

ne Hæðen fremmeð mára - ne hæleð cwic.

Onlæt mé - onlys mé,

befóf lufu - þurfe líf,

ne wræc - ne wóh,

heofen ic cume -heretoga ic ceall!<FontFamily><param>Arial</param>
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Baby if he really loves you more than me
Maybe it's the best thing
Maybe it's the best thing for you
But it's the worst that could happen to me
"The Worst That Culd Happen"
Brooklyn Bridge

Wassail All!

---Llaiwyn@... wrote:
>
> From: Llaiwyn@...
>
> In a message dated 98-10-23 01:42:42 EDT, you write:
>
> << http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi/mb61398
>   >>
> i really think it is bad to have a web page that is only a
questionaire.  If
> you want a new look you need to offer somthing as well. I think it
is rather
> rude, to send for somone ask them a lot of questions ans offer them
nothing,
> dont you?  Pehaps you should revise it. I know you guys have a
wealth of
> poetry and art in your archives, so why not put it up?  I run real
estate ads
> that are more interusting.  Come on guys show us your stuff!

Actually, if I recall, the Ealdriht does have a web site separate from
the forum which can be reached from the forum, with some interesting
stuff on it. Of course, being who I am, I prefer the Theodish Belief
web site. It's www.theodishbelief.com (please forgive the plug, but
sibling rivalry forces me to make it).

Eric Wodening

From:            Llaiwyn@...
Date sent:       Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:22:25 EDT
To:              saxontroth@onelist.com
Send reply to:   saxontroth@onelist.com
Subject:         [saxontroth] Re: Ealdriht Froum


Only a questionaire???? It's a forum for gods' sake, if you follow the
link back to my page you get more stuff, and can then surf over to
the Ealdriht page.  Both addresses are in my sig, below.



> From: Llaiwyn@...
>
> In a message dated 98-10-23 01:42:42 EDT, you write:
>
> << http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi/mb61398
>   >>
> i really think it is bad to have a web page that is only a questionaire.  If
> you want a new look you need to offer somthing as well. I think it is rather
> rude, to send for somone ask them a lot of questions ans offer them nothing,
> dont you?  Pehaps you should revise it. I know you guys have a wealth of
> poetry and art in your archives, so why not put it up?  I run real estate ads
> that are more interusting.  Come on guys show us your stuff!
>
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In a message dated 98-10-23 01:42:42 EDT, you write:

<< http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi/mb61398
   >>
i really think it is bad to have a web page that is only a questionaire.  If
you want a new look you need to offer somthing as well. I think it is rather
rude, to send for somone ask them a lot of questions ans offer them nothing,
dont you?  Pehaps you should revise it. I know you guys have a wealth of
poetry and art in your archives, so why not put it up?  I run real estate ads
that are more interusting.  Come on guys show us your stuff!

Has a new look, check it out at:

http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi/mb61398


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Merry Winternights

That's because you have to view it in Netscape (-:  Should work okay then.


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On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 MDEHNERS@... wrote:

> From: MDEHNERS@...
>
> In a message dated 10/6/98 9:55:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> bcanote@... writes:
>
> << <cite>Verse Indeterminate Saxon</cite>
>  <dl compact>
>  <dt></dt>
>  <dd>
>  Gemyne &eth;u, mucgwyrt,  &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;  hw&aelig;t &thorn;u
> ameldodest,
>  hw&aelig;t &thorn;u renadest  &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;  &aelig;t
> Regenmelde.
>  Una &thorn;u hattest,  &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;  yldost wyrta.
>  &eth;u miht wi&eth; <em>III</em>  &#160; &#160; &#160; &#1 >>
> All I got was gibberish. BTW, Runa ( British Asatru Mag) has been doing
> installments of the Nine Herb Charm. They're Identifying Mayweed as Anthemis
> Cotula and Wergulu as Urtica Dioica. Stinging Nettle is fairly easy to get
> here in the States, but Stinking Chamomile isn't.
> In troth,
> PTD
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In a message dated 10/6/98 9:55:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
bcanote@... writes:

<< <cite>Verse Indeterminate Saxon</cite>
  <dl compact>
  <dt></dt>
  <dd>
  Gemyne &eth;u, mucgwyrt,  &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;  hw&aelig;t &thorn;u
ameldodest,
  hw&aelig;t &thorn;u renadest  &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;  &aelig;t
Regenmelde.
  Una &thorn;u hattest,  &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;  yldost wyrta.
  &eth;u miht wi&eth; <em>III</em>  &#160; &#160; &#160; &#1 >>
All I got was gibberish. BTW, Runa ( British Asatru Mag) has been doing
installments of the Nine Herb Charm. They're Identifying Mayweed as Anthemis
Cotula and Wergulu as Urtica Dioica. Stinging Nettle is fairly easy to get
here in the States, but Stinking Chamomile isn't.
In troth,
PTD

Sorry about all the typos in the4 last post. I got a copy and was horrified as
i didn't "proof" it. I am a mortgage appraiser and  I am swamped been typing
all night. I have worn out my keyboard and have some sticky keys too!  I just
don't want you all to think I am one neuron short of a synapse.  This list is
also tricky in that I thought I was replying to one person and did not expect
it to post to everyone or I would have been more careful.

When things get a little less busy around here I wil contribute more to the
list of interest.

Wassail!

i didnt get teh attachment. Can yuou send it to me Dirrectly. I am a Member O
Thorsson's Rune Gild. thanks

Wesath eall hal!!!


Just to let you know i have on my website the Anglo-Saxon rune poem in
Anglo-Saxon and English translation.  CHeck it out at
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/6910/rune1.html
ANd let me know what you think.


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Wesath eall hall!

Attached is the Nine Worts Gealdor, which I hope to start a discussion
about.  For those of you not knowing A-S don't feel left out in the dark,
I will provide a translation in a day or two.

For those of you that do, I would like to know if anyone else has seen a
similarity to the Rune Song of the Havamal.  In the Gealdor, Woden hung in
the sky, took the worts and sent them to man.  In the Rune Song, Woden won
the runes and sent them to the various races.  Anyone see a similarity
beyond this???

Swain

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Wassail!


---Gerd Groenewold <venator@...> wrote:
>
> From: Gerd Groenewold <venator@...>
>
> Wassail!
>
> I don't wish to quibble, but, as to the name Freja, I seem to remember
> that this spelling is correct in at least modern Swedish, if not in
> other modern Scandinavian languages.  Of course, in modern Swedish,
they
> also have "Tor," and "Oden."  Other than that, I don't have much to
add.
>
> GERD

Don't know much about modern Swedish, so the spelling might be correct
for it. No offence to the modern Swedes, but I personally prefer Old
Norse!

Eric

Wassail!

I don't wish to quibble, but, as to the name Freja, I seem to remember
that this spelling is correct in at least modern Swedish, if not in
other modern Scandinavian languages.  Of course, in modern Swedish, they
also have "Tor," and "Oden."  Other than that, I don't have much to add.

GERD

saxontroth@onelist.com wrote:

> Don't know what you mean by "Freja," but if you mean "Freyja," she is
> not an aspect. She is a full blown goddess. She is one of the Vanir,
> daughter of NjordhR and sister of FreyR. She governs, among other
> things, love, war (she gets half the battle slain), and seidhR.
> Besides Frigg, she is probably the most powerful goddess in the
> Germanic pantheon.
>
> Eric Lord

--
"Thinking begins only when we have come to know that reason,
glorified for centuries, is the most stiff-necked adversary
of thought." - Martin Heidegger

Wassail!

---Herbgirlzz@... wrote:
>
> From: Herbgirlzz@...
>
> Can you please explain to me the aspect Freja?
> Thanks.

Don't know what you mean by "Freja," but if you mean "Freyja," she is
not an aspect. She is a full blown goddess. She is one of the Vanir,
daughter of NjordhR and sister of FreyR. She governs, among other
things, love, war (she gets half the battle slain), and seidhR.
Besides Frigg, she is probably the most powerful goddess in the
Germanic pantheon.

Eric Lord

In a message dated 9/27/98 9:06:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
MatthewBIO@... writes:

<< Actually, most Asatru, not just the Folkish,  do not claim that the gods
are
  simply aspects of a greater God. That is called wicca, not Asatru. Because a
  person is not Folkish, does not mean they practice a watered down version of
  Asatru.  >>
True, only that Folkish Asatru tend to be a little more blunt about the
insult(IMO)<G>. I was lucky. The Celtic Wiccan Trad I found/joined in 81 was
polytheistic, not Duotheistic or Monist like most Wiccan Trads so I didn't
have to unlearn a lot of nonsense. Still, The politicing and poor
scholasticism in Wicca brought me to Reconstructionist Druidism(ar naDraiocht
Fein) in 90 and finally to Asatru this yr.Even though I have a strong mystical
bendt, I temper it with research. If something comes up in meditation that
strongly contradicts surviving documentation, documentation wins(for me...).
In Frith,
PTD

In a message dated 9/27/98 6:30:48 PM Central Daylight Time, MDEHNERS@...
writes:

>  Can you please explain to me the aspect Freja? >>Freyja is the Vanic
>  Goddess(sorry, used to the Norse spelling..) associated with
>  prosperity,magick, pleasure,battle and the strength of Womanhood(as opposed
> to
>  Motherhood) amongst others.
>  BTW, many folks believe that the Goddesses and Gods are individuals, not
>  aspects of some "One" and can take the calling of their Patron(ness)s as
> part
>  of a hive being as an insult, esp some of the Folkish...
>  In Frith,

Actually, most Asatru, not just the Folkish,  do not claim that the gods are
simply aspects of a greater God. That is called wicca, not Asatru. Because a
person is not Folkish, does not mean they practice a watered down version of
Asatru.

In a message dated 9/26/98 12:54:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
Herbgirlzz@... writes:

<<
  Can you please explain to me the aspect Freja? >>Freyja is the Vanic
Goddess(sorry, used to the Norse spelling..) associated with
prosperity,magick, pleasure,battle and the strength of Womanhood(as opposed to
Motherhood) amongst others.
BTW, many folks believe that the Goddesses and Gods are individuals, not
aspects of some "One" and can take the calling of their Patron(ness)s as part
of a hive being as an insult, esp some of the Folkish...
In Frith,
PTD

Can you please explain to me the aspect Freja?
Thanks.


Herbgirlzz@...

Felt a little funny when you wrote what? No, didn't feel it.

Wassail All!

This is Eric Lord Wodening.

To me explaining why one feels closest to the gods that he does is not
unlike trying to explain why his friends are his friends--rather
difficult in that much of the relaitonship is based on rather elusive
qualities of which the person might not ever be aware. Anyhow, I
suppose I will give it a try.

I have always felt closest to Woden and Freyja (in Old English Freo).
I believe I am closest to Woden because he is the god of wisdom,
galdor, runecraft, and so on--as a scholar he is then the god who most
resembles myself. I am closest to Freyja for similar reasons. Freyja
is also a god of the metaphysical arts, and while Woden is god of
wisdom, Freyja is goddess of love (I hate to admit it, but I am a
romantic at heart). Beyond these reasons I can't really explain why I
feel closest to Woden and Freya, and not for instance Tiw (that's TyR
in Old Norse) or Frige (that's Frigg in Old Norse) or other gods.

Of course, I must point out that I do not have an "exclusive
relationship" with Woden and Freyja. I can and do talk to the gods
very often. In fact, I am rather close to Thunor (ThorR in Old Norse).
This is as it should be. In ancient times among the Germanic peoples
we didn't see people dedicating themselves to one god to the exclusion
of all others.

Godspeed,
Eric Lord

Merry Meet yes im here in Cleveland Ohio and i felt it

I thought I felt a little funny when I sent that.  We had an earthquake here
in Michigan:)  Anyone elese feel it?

I feel closest to Freyja, as she makes me feel beautiful and sexy.  I also am
close to Sif, and grow my hair long and lighten it to the color of grain to
emulate her. It ia my way of also worshiping Thor, by emulating Sif.  Over a
perriod of 20 years, as i have been with my Patrion goddesses since I was 15,
Ithink this has had an effet on my person.  What do you think?

Sheila Clark

I feel closest to Diana, the moon Goddess.  She may not be a saxon goddess,
but she is the only one I feel comfortable talking to.  Any other would be
false.

Lets start a new topic:  What God or Goddess do you feel closest to and how
does it affect you, in other words in any way do you emulate them?

Branga, Ronald wrote:

> From: "Branga, Ronald" <Ronald.Branga@...>
>
> Hail Folk
> The tribal/kindred discussion is interesting. How many of you
> contributing to this thread belong to a Kindred or Tribe etc?
> I am not talking about being a mailorder member.
> I was just wondering how the opinion differed from a lone Asatruar as
> opposed to an Asatruar who belongs to a Tribe/Kindred.
> Wes Thu Hal
> Ronald Branga ~Raven Kindered North-Massachusetts~
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Fare with the Gods


Heimdall (Steve)
Himinbjorg Hearth

Heilsa Saff. Its good to have you on the list.