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#31 From: "Gregory Isaac" <anitrain@...>
Date: Thu May 19, 2005 6:48 pm
Subject: Amazon Listing for L&S 2
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#30 From: Growly <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Wed May 18, 2005 3:21 pm
Subject: Reminder: New Episode on Friday
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This week's new episode is called "Retro".  TV Tome doesn't yet have a description for the episode, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.  4pm Eastern, 3pm Centra.
 
*Growly


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#29 From: "Gregory Isaac" <anitrain@...>
Date: Fri May 13, 2005 1:27 am
Subject: RE: New Episode
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"Hope everyone finds this helpful"

Very. Thanks. :)

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     To: "saveourstitch@yahoogroups.com"<saveourstitch@yahoogroups.com>
     Subject: RE: [saveourstitch] New Episode

     The episode slated to air on Friday is "Snooty" which
      is actually episode 49 and comes before "PJ", and
      "Ploot".

      Interestingly, the episode titled "Remmy" - number 48
      - is not on the airing schedule at all, currently,
      although they show as far ahead as "Link" which airs
      on June 17th.  The episode "Phoon" which had its
      airdate pushed back after the typhoon will also be
      airing in June.

      The current list of airdates for new episodes is:

      May 17th - Snooty (Episode 49)
      May 20th - Retro (Episode 53)
      June 3rd - Phoon (Episode 45)
      June 17th - Link (Episode 50)

      Also, "Rufus" (the crossover with Kim Possible) is
      listed at TV Tome as Episode #55, by the by.
      Production number 214.  "Spats", the crossover with
      The Proud Family is listed as episode 54, production
      number 213.

      Hope everyone finds this helpful.

      *Growly

      --- Gregory Isaac <anitrain@...>
      wrote:
      > Do you know the name of the episode yet? Not that it
      > matters, I'll watch it anyway, :D


      "If everyone else is beef ravioli and you're fettuchini alfredo, does that
make this question as ridiculous as it sounds?"

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#28 From: Growly <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Fri May 13, 2005 12:06 am
Subject: RE: New Episode
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The episode slated to air on Friday is "Snooty" which
is actually episode 49 and comes before "PJ", and
"Ploot".

Interestingly, the episode titled "Remmy" - number 48
- is not on the airing schedule at all, currently,
although they show as far ahead as "Link" which airs
on June 17th.  The episode "Phoon" which had its
airdate pushed back after the typhoon will also be
airing in June.

The current list of airdates for new episodes is:

May 17th - Snooty (Episode 49)
May 20th - Retro (Episode 53)
June 3rd - Phoon (Episode 45)
June 17th - Link (Episode 50)

Also, "Rufus" (the crossover with Kim Possible) is
listed at TV Tome as Episode #55, by the by.
Production number 214.  "Spats", the crossover with
The Proud Family is listed as episode 54, production
number 213.

Hope everyone finds this helpful.

*Growly

--- Gregory Isaac <anitrain@...>
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> Do you know the name of the episode yet? Not that it
> matters, I'll watch it anyway, :D


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#27 From: Jbatlady28@...
Date: Thu May 12, 2005 8:00 pm
Subject: Re: New Episode
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I  think  it's  Snooty  and  Has  VICTORIA  LILO"S new Friend  marcie

#26 From: "Gregory Isaac" <anitrain@...>
Date: Thu May 12, 2005 11:49 pm
Subject: RE: New Episode
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Do you know the name of the episode yet? Not that it matters, I'll watch it
anyway, :D

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     Subject: [saveourstitch] New Episode

     This friday they're playing a new episode of Lilo and Stitch.  Usual
      time, usual place, so this is my head's up for the group.

      *Growly



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#25 From: "sesshou_maru" <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Thu May 12, 2005 11:45 pm
Subject: New Episode
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This friday they're playing a new episode of Lilo and Stitch.  Usual
time, usual place, so this is my head's up for the group.

*Growly

#24 From: William Robinson <nvrworked@...>
Date: Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:21 am
Subject: Fwd: [Mission_Kim_Possible] Crossover....
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FYI, Mr. Schooley is the Executive Producer/Co-Creator of Disney's "Kim Possible".

 
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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:02 AM
To: Schooley, Robert
Subject: Crossover....

Hi, sorry to bother you again, but I was wondering if you guys have heard anything new about the Lilo and Stitch/Kim Possible crossover, such as title, tentative air date, etc.

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I think it's called "Rufus."  Don't know when it will air though.

 

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#23 From: Jbatlady28@...
Date: Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:53 pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: [preservethemagic] Lilo & Stitch
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In a message dated 4/13/2005 1:08:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sesshou_maru@... writes:

To Lilo &Stitch fans: I found a target you might aim at.

The April 17 issue of TV Guide gives special mention to this show on its "Weekday Highlights" page. Read it:

"LILO &STITCH The series about a Hawaiian orphan girl (Lilo) who adopts a precocious alien "pet" (Stitch) celebrates Earth Day's 35th anniversary. Lilo's taking part in an Earth Day cleanup activity when she meets another out-of-this world being named Ploot, who's here on a sludge-spreading mission. Stopping him is a yucky, smelly job, but Lilo and Stitch are determined to show the polluter the error of his ways- and maybe even educate him about how he can help beautify the planet.FRI. 4pm/ET DIS"


I just thought that since TV Guide has noticed this episode in some way, fans could write relevant letters to support your show. Remember, Lilo &Stitch is subject to the "65 Episode Policy".

Letters must include your name, address &home phone number.

letters@...

Letters Department
TV Guide
Radnor, PA 19088  THat;s  So  cool!  I klnow  they  like  the show .  i'll  write  Tv  guide!   MArCIE 


#22 From: Growly <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:03 pm
Subject: Fwd: [preservethemagic] Lilo & Stitch
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Take a look at this folks.  As Mr. Robinson so eloquently put it, this may be our chance to write in and tell the world just how much we love the show.  A lot of cartoons (and regular shows for that matter) don't get opportunities like this, so we should go ahead and take advantage of it.
 
*Growly

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From: William Robinson <nvrworked@...>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:45:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [preservethemagic] Lilo & Stitch

To Lilo & Stitch fans: I found a target you might aim at.

The April 17 issue of TV Guide gives special mention to this show on its "Weekday Highlights" page. Read it:

"LILO & STITCH The series about a Hawaiian orphan girl (Lilo) who adopts a precocious alien "pet" (Stitch) celebrates Earth Day's 35th anniversary. Lilo's taking part in an Earth Day cleanup activity when she meets another out-of-this world being named Ploot, who's here on a sludge-spreading mission. Stopping him is a yucky, smelly job, but Lilo and Stitch are determined to show the polluter the error of his ways- and maybe even educate him about how he can help beautify the planet. FRI. 4pm/ET DIS"


I just thought that since TV Guide has noticed this episode in some way, fans could write relevant letters to support your show. Remember, Lilo & Stitch is subject to the "65 Episode Policy". 

Letters must include your name, address & home phone number.

letters@...

Letters Department
TV Guide
Radnor, PA 19088


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#21 From: "sesshou_maru" <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:09 am
Subject: A Ray of Hope
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Well folks, I'm sure by now most of you have heard that they've chosen
a CEO to follow Eisner.  I, along with many others, was skeptical when
I heard who they had picked, but it seems that perhaps all hope is not
lost.

This article was cited on one of our sister groups - Mission Kim
Possible - and would seem to present some hope for the future of
Disney in general and the shows we love.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050318/q_a_robert_iger_2.html

Here are some some email addresses that can be used to contact Robert
Iger and show our support of L&S and the other Disney shows we've
grown to love.  Now is the time to act people, we've been given an
opportunity.  Let's not waste it.

Robert Iger - President/Upcoming CEO
robert.a.iger@...
robert.iger@...

Snail Mail addresses coming soon, I hope.

*Growly

#19 From: Jbatlady28@...
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2005 4:44 am
Subject: letter that I Plan to send to the PTB
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Mr. Michael Eisner
Chief Executive Officer
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500 South Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521

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Dear Mr.. Eisner:
      I am a long-term fan of Disney's Lilo and Stitch, not just of
the movies, but ABC/Disney chanael animated series.   I'm not a
member of what you think is the shows target audience 3-11 year
olds.  I am a woman in her 30s   with no children of my own; there
are many of us, male and female from all walks of life.
         Most of the fans I have encountered   have been in some
large and very active Yahoo-groups.  The members range in age from
their   teens   to there 50s.   It seems Disney is targeting teens
and   so-called   Tweens at the Disney channel   especially, but
young   Adults and people in Middle age have purchasing power, which
pleases advertisers.   They also buy Lilo and Stitch products for
their children and themselves, such as toys, mugs and clothes

     Lilo and Stitch is a wonderfully crafted   show with much
creative   potential.  Stitch has 625  "cousins." And   the
standard   65 episodes you give   your cable shows are not   enough
to explore the comic possibilities these loveable/mischievous
creatures have.  The talented writers the show has could have
stories for years to come.   If they keep the stories fresh the fans
will continue to watch and the show will attract more viewers.
  Respectfully yours, Marcie Ann Gore     ANY SUGUESTIONS?

#18 From: Jbatlady28@...
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2005 4:37 am
Subject: Re: Aloha 'Ohana
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--- In saveourstitch@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory Isaac"
<anitrain@s...> wrote:
> "Might be useful - and functional - for L&S fans to buy one or two
and
> wear them.  I'm quite sure if I saw someone wearing one - and I
> didn't know about the show or other adult fans - I'd sure be
curious."
>
>
>
> You know, that's a really good idea.
>
>
>YES  anything to   get the message   out  Marcie  BTW  thanks  for
the Welcome

#17 From: "rockin_starry628" <rockin_starry628@...>
Date: Tue Feb 1, 2005 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: Aloha 'Ohana
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--- In saveourstitch@yahoogroups.com, "michaeld_berger"
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>
> Aloha my fellow L&S fans... glad to finally get a chance to post
and
> say "aloha"!
>
> I also want to pass on a bit of advice about making people aware
of
> the situation with L&S... by first making them aware there are
other
> fans.
>
> Most of you may already know about the Disney Ink Shop, but just
in
> case, thought you all might like to see this:
>
> http://www.zazzle.com/collections/disneyinkshop/gallery.asp?
>
dsny_ctgy_type=story&general_category_id=196564527031520056&dsny_ctgy
_
> level=1&dsny_ctgy1=
>
> These are L&S t-shirts... kinda expensive (ranging from $20 to $25
> depending on what options you pick - sweatshirts and other kinds
of
> shirts are more).
>
> Might be useful - and functional - for L&S fans to buy one or two
and
> wear them.  I'm quite sure if I saw someone wearing one - and I
> didn't know about the show or other adult fans - I'd sure be
curious.
>
> A thought and some info I figure might be useful for our 'Ohana...
>
>
> - Mike
---------
Ya, I've heard of the disney inkshop. For my birthday I got a Stitch
hoodie from them:D I still want to get more stuff though...

#16 From: Growly <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Tue Feb 1, 2005 6:53 am
Subject: RE: Aloha 'Ohana
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--- Gregory Isaac <anitrain@...>
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> "Might be useful - and functional - for L&S fans to
> buy one or two and
> wear them.  I'm quite sure if I saw someone wearing
> one - and I
> didn't know about the show or other adult fans - I'd
> sure be curious."
> You know, that's a really good idea.

Ditto on that.  I would certainly do just that if I
could afford to spend that much money. @_@  Not having
a regular paycheck sucks sometimes.

*Growly

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#15 From: "Gregory Isaac" <anitrain@...>
Date: Tue Feb 1, 2005 6:11 am
Subject: RE: Aloha 'Ohana
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Might be useful - and functional - for L&S fans to buy one or two and
wear them.  I'm quite sure if I saw someone wearing one - and I
didn't know about the show or other adult fans - I'd sure be curious.

 

You know, that’s a really good idea.

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#14 From: "michaeld_berger" <bigshinydiamond@...>
Date: Tue Feb 1, 2005 5:32 am
Subject: Aloha 'Ohana
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Aloha my fellow L&S fans... glad to finally get a chance to post and
say "aloha"!

I also want to pass on a bit of advice about making people aware of
the situation with L&S... by first making them aware there are other
fans.

Most of you may already know about the Disney Ink Shop, but just in
case, thought you all might like to see this:

http://www.zazzle.com/collections/disneyinkshop/gallery.asp?
dsny_ctgy_type=story&general_category_id=196564527031520056&dsny_ctgy_
level=1&dsny_ctgy1=

These are L&S t-shirts... kinda expensive (ranging from $20 to $25
depending on what options you pick - sweatshirts and other kinds of
shirts are more).

Might be useful - and functional - for L&S fans to buy one or two and
wear them.  I'm quite sure if I saw someone wearing one - and I
didn't know about the show or other adult fans - I'd sure be curious.

A thought and some info I figure might be useful for our 'Ohana...


- Mike

#13 From: Wayne S <dmb1981@...>
Date: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:47 pm
Subject: Some people just don't know...
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...who is responsible for their favorite shows ending
with 65 episodes. This was posted by a 13 year old on
a TvTome forum to Mr. Jess Winfield, someone who works
on Lilo & Stitch.

"Jess, Are you guys gonna dump the show after 65
episodes?"

My response:
"Jess has nothing to do with "dumping" the series. Mr.
Eisner of Disney will dump the series, along with Kim
Possible, just as they did Even Stevens and Lizzie
McGuire. I know a bunch of folks at
http://www.savedisneyshows.org/ that would be more
than happy to explain it all to you. :-)"

I don't blame him. He is only 13 years old. I'm 24 and
I didn't even know about the 65 episode limit until I
found groups like this. I assume that most of us are
probably at least 16 years or older. But there's a
whole group of younger people out there who have
limited or no Internet access. Young teens and
pre-teens, who would probably just get as upset as us,
if they were only aware of the episode limit and who
the real enemy is. It's not Jess Winfield or Steve
Loter. But I can see why people who aren't educated in
this matter can blame the producers, writers, and
directors of these shows. And that's not fair. We have
to let everyone know from ages 6 to 96, who Mr. Eisner
really is!

Wayne

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#12 From: Growly <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:06 am
Subject: Re: I"M New
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I'm very glad to have you with us, and I hope that
more people will join from the other group as well.
The more of us there are, the bigger the difference we
can make.  If anyone else knows people who might be
interested, please be sure to let them know. ^.^

*Growly

--- Jbatlady28@... wrote:

> I'm  a  huge LILO AND  STITCH fan  have  been since
> I saw the first
> trailers.  I have a bed  full of  Plushies  and
> other  goodies.
> IThink thiss  Should  have more the  65  EPISODES
> STItch has  so
> many possiblites. I hope you don't Mind  i  shared
> the link to
> thisgroup  with  ANOTHER  VERY ACTIVE L&s FAN GROUP
> HOPEFULLY
> THATWILL GET mORE MEMBERS.  marcIE


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#11 From: Jbatlady28@...
Date: Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:07 pm
Subject: I"M New
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I'm  a  huge LILO AND  STITCH fan  have  been since I saw the first
trailers.  I have a bed  full of  Plushies  and other  goodies.
IThink thiss  Should  have more the  65  EPISODES STItch has  so
many possiblites. I hope you don't Mind  i  shared the link to
thisgroup  with  ANOTHER  VERY ACTIVE L&s FAN GROUP HOPEFULLY
THATWILL GET mORE MEMBERS.  marcIE

#10 From: Steve Mason <voiceactor_626@...>
Date: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:19 am
Subject: Re: Fwd: KP on L&S - Official info
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I have no problems with KP or Recess. I 've watched both of them. The only thing I have to say about it is to leave the Lilo and Stitch Universe ALNOE! It was heart whrenching enough to see Regis Philbin on it. (That made me so angry!!!) Other shows in the past that were DESPERATE did stuff like this, Flinstones meet the Jetsons ring a bell?
I'm sorry, I feel Strongly about my Stitch, he's the reason I want ot be a voice actor.

Growly <sesshou_maru@...> wrote:
More information.  Apparently one of the other
crossovers will be with Recess.  Two others are
slated, no word yet. 

For those who have the episode Cannonball on tape -
DON'T RECORD OVER IT.  Word is that they will no
longer be showing this episode after the tsunami
events.  Read the forwarded message for details.

*Growly

--- Wayne S <dmb1981@...> wrote:

> An update to my own message, apparently it is
> official. If I would have looked a few posts back I
> would have found this quote by Jess Winfield
> himself...
>
> "Regarding the upcoming crossover episodes...
> apparently the cat's out of the bag about the
> "Recess"
> crossover. That's one of four crossover episodes in
> season two. Another one is a Kim Possible crossover
> that I think anyone who likes both shows will really
> enjoy. As for the other two... I think I'll play
> hard
> to get for now."
>
> Any guesses on the other two? Also something he
> posted
> I found interesting is they are going to stop
> showing
> "Cannonball" because of the tsunami events. I can
> kind
> of understand that. Those that may have taped it
> though will be getting a lot of requests I'm sure
> for
> copies.
>
> Wayne

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#9 From: Growly <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:16 am
Subject: Fwd: KP on L&S - Official info
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More information.  Apparently one of the other
crossovers will be with Recess.  Two others are
slated, no word yet.

For those who have the episode Cannonball on tape -
DON'T RECORD OVER IT.  Word is that they will no
longer be showing this episode after the tsunami
events.  Read the forwarded message for details.

*Growly

--- Wayne S <dmb1981@...> wrote:

> An update to my own message, apparently it is
> official. If I would have looked a few posts back I
> would have found this quote by Jess Winfield
> himself...
>
> "Regarding the upcoming crossover episodes...
> apparently the cat's out of the bag about the
> "Recess"
> crossover. That's one of four crossover episodes in
> season two. Another one is a Kim Possible crossover
> that I think anyone who likes both shows will really
> enjoy. As for the other two... I think I'll play
> hard
> to get for now."
>
> Any guesses on the other two? Also something he
> posted
> I found interesting is they are going to stop
> showing
> "Cannonball" because of the tsunami events. I can
> kind
> of understand that. Those that may have taped it
> though will be getting a lot of requests I'm sure
> for
> copies.
>
> Wayne

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#8 From: Growly <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:12 am
Subject: Fwd: Kim Possible on Lilo & Stitch
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Just thought I'd forward this to the lists in case
anyone is interested.  I think this is as close to an
official notice we're likely to get until the episode
airs.

*Growly

--- Wayne S <dmb1981@...> wrote:
> Found this quote on TvTome by someone who works on
> Lilo & Stitch. It wasn't Jess Winfield who's been
> posting regularly, but someone who seems to be
> taking
> over at least temporarily. Never can be too trusting
> on the Internet, but it sounds promising. Here's the
> quote, and the link. By the way, heard no word yet
> of
> a date of release. They probably don't know either.
>
>
http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowForumPage/showid-14425/threadid-146257/\
page-11
>
> "Are the crossover characters animated in the L&S
> style or in their series' style?"
>
> "At the direction of our bosses, the crossover
> characters will remain in the style of their shows.
> When Kim goes into Lilo's world, the BG style is the
> same as the Lilo and Stitch movie. We did work
> closely
> with the crew of Kim to make sure everything that
> needs to remains consistent does."

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#7 From: Growly <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:08 am
Subject: Fwd: A New Disney/ABC Contact
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Got another new contact courtesy of the  Mission: Kim
Possible group.  Sending emails to this lady regarding
the fate of our beloved show would definitely be a
good idea.  ^.^

*Growly

--- michaeld_berger <bigshinydiamond@...>
wrote:
>
> New contact at Disney folks... this one is a VIP of
> sorts
>
> Eleo Hensleigh is the new Executive VP of Marketing
> & Brand Strategies
> at the Disney-ABC Television Group.

> Here's a portion of a recent article about her
> promotion:
>
> "In her new role, Hensleigh is charged with managing
> marketing and
> brand strategy initiatives, research departments and
> synergy efforts
> for the group, which includes the ABC Television
> Network (ABC Daytime,
> ABC News, ABC Primetime, ABC Latenight, and ABC
> Affiliate Marketing)
> and the entertainment cable television networks
> under the Disney-ABC
> Cable Networks Group banner, including Disney
> Channel Worldwide, Toon
> Disney, ABC Family and SOAPnet, as well as Walt
> Disney Television
> Animation."
>
> Researching brand marketing and strategy for all of
> Disney's
> television networks (here in the U.S. and abroad)
> and etc. - includes
> knowing what people want to see on the Disney
> Channel and ABC.
> Getting my drift here?
>
> Only contact info so far is this email address
> eleo.hensleigh@...


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#6 From: "sesshou_maru" <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Thu Jan 6, 2005 10:04 am
Subject: [Article] The Invisible 'Ohana
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This is from an article of sorts I was writing up for the
SaveDisneyShows forum - www.savedisneyshows.org - and I thought it
might be applicable here.

The Invisible 'Ohana
(A fan's view of the fandom)

I have been a fan of Lilo and Stitch for a long time, and I found the fact
that they planned to stop the show after only 65 episodes to be horrible
on many levels.  After all, they aren't exploring the full potential of the
show if they cut it off when it's only just begun.  The story also won't be
complete.  626 experiments were created (well, 627 if you want to get
technical).  How many experiments can you possibly find a place for in
only 65 episodes?

Then there is the fact that Disney is only doing this because of some rule
that says more than 65 episodes of a show is a bad idea, regardless of
what the fans may think.  Is it really fair to do things according to this
formula, when there are and will continue to be many fans who enjoy the
show and would continue to enjoy it past that magical number 65?

There are people who would counter with the fact that L&S doesn't
really seem to have any fans.  A fact that I find particularly intriguing,
considering that I myself *am* a fan.  I think pat of the problem may be
in the apparent disparity in the fan base. I can't say this for a certainty,
but I do have a few observations on the matter from what I've seen.

Firstly, that the younger fan base consists of children up to the age of
approx 10-12 (I'd say younger is more common) which is attracted by
the brightness of the show, the cute or cool experiments and the action
sequences.

Then you've got the older fans who enjoy the characterization - and for a
show that uses up a lot of time with pure mayhem, L&S has really good
characterizations.

Here's the rub - you have a rather large section right in the middle where
the show is either too kiddish or else they don't get the subtleties of the
non-action parts. Like it or not, there is quite a bit of humor in the show
that would go over the heads of younger children. So you end up with
sort of a "hit or miss" deal when it comes to fans.

I've heard stories from people in that middle range of fans,  mostly
mentioning the fact that it wasn't the action in Lilo and Stitch that turned
them off of the series.  But of course, the action/battle/experiment chasing
parts of Lilo and Stitch are really straight forward.   No, it's the idea of
'ohana, that they don't quite seem to get.  I just had to wonder about
that...

Why is it the concept of 'ohana that seems to bother people?

Whether we mean to or not, we absorb a lot of lessons about prejudice
and not accepting that we don't understand - most of it just from what
we hear and see day to day.

There is no definitive black and white in the concept, which makes it
difficult to accurately peg the lesson to be learned. This is bound to make
people uncomfortable. Besides, acceptance is a lesson which cannot be
taught immediately, but rather, one that needs to be absorbed over a
period of time. No matter how good the intentions, a person cannot
immediately overcome their perceptions of others. Trying to forcefeed it
down someone's throat would only backfire. But expose a person to it in
a positive manner long enough and they will often come around without
even realizing that there was a change happening.

For the same reason, this is a show that requires constant watching to
really begin to "get" what it's about, beyond the chase scenes and the cool
aliens. Notice that even the villains change and absorb some of the
lessons of 'ohana. They're not evil - or at least, they have the potential to
not be evil. Just as Lilo will sometimes do things which are far from being
definitively "good".

Younger children will absorb what they see with very little question -
adults will already have their opinions formed and therefore you'll
usually only see the ones that have similar beliefs watching it. For
teenagers there's all sorts of levels in between, determined by many
things - their own perceptions of themselves, pressure from others. It's
just one more bit of imput - and not a neccesarily popular one.

It was also noted several times that there is a clear disparity between the
number of Lilo and Stitch fans and the number of fan pages.   To put it
bluntly, there really aren't any.  The only one I know exists is my own,
and I made it solely to combat the absence of L&S fandom online.  I've
even heard people on the SaveDisneyShows forum doubting the
"saveability" of the show.

I know better, as does everyone else who has read and enjoyed a L&S
fanfiction, or created a piece of fanart.  The question is not whether the
fans exist, it is WHERE are they.  With the little evidence I have, I can
only draw a few speculative conclusions.

Younger fans are less likely to be active online - hence the lack of
webpages/activity from that sector - but they're also the ones that
Disney uses towards its summation of how well a show is doing. The
older fans - like myself - tend to be a bit more cautious about when and
where they go about treading on legal feet, and Disney has a rather bad
reputation for coming down hard for minor stuff in that regard. You build
it and they come, but often they won't build it themselves.  Disney has
put the fear in them, and it feels like they can only sit back and endure it
- making due with the occasional fanfic or artwork scattered here and
there across the net.

The truly sad thing is, in the eyes of Disney, we older fans don't really
count at all towards whether a show is doing well or not.   We are the
invisible audience, and Disney Corporation doesn't see that it is crippling
itself with its actions.

We deserve the right to say that we want more of the show we enjoy.
More to the point, we *possess* this right.  There is nothing preventing
us from writing in and letting them know exactly how we feel about the
matter.  Well, there are a few things.  Apathy.  Fear.  The belief that we
have already lost.  Of course, if we are feeling these things, then yes.  We
*have* already lost.

And then there's 'ohana... We all know what it means. It teaches
acceptance, love, and tolerance of our differences. The 'ohana in Lilo and
Stitch is built up of many diverse characters - most of whom aren't even
blood kin - but are a family nonetheless.  I enjoy the show the most for
the lessons it has taught me about the sheer scope of love that is
possible.  Everyone longs for acceptance at some point or another, and
the ideal of Lilo and Stitch appeals greatly to that little part inside that
has always wanted to be loved "just the way we are".

Yes, we all know what it *means*, but are have we really embraced it as
deeply as we claim?  To unashamedly steal a quote from Stitch (one that
never fails to bring tears to my eyes): "This is my family.  I found it all
by myself.  It's little and broken but still good.  Yes... still good."  Where
would any of the characters we know and love be if they had gone ahead
and given up on their little "broken" family?  We are also part of this
'ohana now, and we should not give up on our family just because
someone said it couldn't last.

"'Ohana means family.  Family means nobody gets left behind... or
forgotten."

*Growly

#5 From: "sesshou_maru" <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Thu Jan 6, 2005 5:23 am
Subject: Episode ideas
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Let's face it, the only good reason to cancel a show is if they run out of
ideas or interest.  We know they haven't lost the latter, otherwise we fans
wouldn't want to save the show.  But I also can't see how they might
have run out of the former already either.

By demonstration: Here's some potential story ideas that could be used if
they decide to run the show past the slated 65 episodes.  If anyone else
has any, feel free to suggest them.  Perhaps we can send them in as proof
that there is still a great deal of potential left in the show.

Episode Ideas:

"Happy" -

Experiment 333 is activated - also known as the "happy" experiment.
One touch from any of its three tails leaves people in a state of blissful
happiness. Unfortunately, it always wears off and leaves the person
wanting more and willing to do just about anything to continue being
"happy".


"Jeeves" -

Experiment 072 is activated. Designed to be Jumba's own personal little
butler, it seems great at first, always doing what needs to be done. It's
soon revealed that 072 was put away because it has a tendency to take
over the lives of the people it "serves", making it impossible for them to
be at all individualistic.


"Cypher" -

A leak in the roof of the music store leads to the activation of experiment
347, designed to translate any language, spoken or written.
Unfortunately, it uses this information to turn people against each other.


"Twist" -

Experiment 403 is activated during a rainstorm. Getting caught in its
swirly-eyed gaze causes a 180 degree twist in a person's attitude - so
responsible people become lazy bums, etc.


"Grandfather" -

Experiment 488 becomes active, causing rapid aging in living beings who
come into close contact with it.

*Growly

#4 From: Growly <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:36 pm
Subject: Re: Welcome to the list, Vixey
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Yeah, Jumba is uber cool - I love the character, even
though my favorite is Pleakley.  I've been collecting
addresses and emails that people who are interested in
helping save the show can use to contact the people at
Disney and let them know how much they enjoy Lilo and
Stitch and would like to see it continued for longer
than 65 episodes.

Our strength is gonna have to be in numbers, so if you
know anyone who might be interested in preserving the
show, please do point them over to the group.

*Growly

--- anne kirby <vixey_dimera@...> wrote:
>  I actually came from another L&S group called
> gayaliens.  there was a message i think from you im
> not sure about the disney rule about the limit of
> episodes.  I belong to a lot of groups and i get so
> many links to others site.  most of them i ignore
> but
> since i love the show so much( fav character is
> jumba
> btw) I had to join.  They cant stop now.  they have
> hardley scratched the surface of the experiment
> files.
>  maybe we'll do some good in this group.  later
> Vix

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#3 From: anne kirby <vixey_dimera@...>
Date: Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:54 am
Subject: Re: Welcome to the list, Vixey
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I actually came from another L&S group called
gayaliens.  there was a message i think from you im
not sure about the disney rule about the limit of
episodes.  I belong to a lot of groups and i get so
many links to others site.  most of them i ignore but
since i love the show so much( fav character is jumba
btw) I had to join.  They cant stop now.  they have
hardley scratched the surface of the experiment files.
  maybe we'll do some good in this group.  later
Vix

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#2 From: "sesshou_maru" <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:11 pm
Subject: Welcome to the list, Vixey
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I'm glad you decided to join us.  ^^ I'm Growly, btw.  Did you come here
from another list or the savedisneyshows site?  I'd like to know so I can
discover what the best way of getting word out of our cause is.  ^_^

*Growly

#1 From: "sesshou_maru" <sesshou_maru@...>
Date: Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:20 pm
Subject: S.O.S. (That's Save Our Stitch, btw)
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For those who aren't aware of Disney policy, the show Lilo and Stitch is
slated to be canceled after the airing of 65 episodes.  Surely I can't be the
only one out there who thinks that 65 episodes just isn't enough.  I love
the characters and the show, and I would love for the show to run 100
episodes, or even 626 episodes!

We're not alone in trying to abolish the 65 episode rule either - we have
some more people in our Ohana working to save other shows they enjoy,
such as Kim Possible.  They have created a site for saving disney shows
from eventual demise and oblivion.

Please folks, lend your support.  Visit www.savedisneyshows.org and let
people know that you care about the quality entertainment we've all
enjoyed.

*Growly

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