Assaalmu alaikum,

Here is an email I received from NUUN Labs. They develop Java
Arabization tools. They are interested in helping us (and possibly
participating in Gitex). Check their site and let's know if their
products can help us.

	 - Khaled

> >we will be more than glad to provide Dr. Khalid all the tools
available
> >from
> >nuun at no cost.
> >for the list of tools please have him visit our 'under development
site"
to
> >review and read about these tools.
> >  the site :    http://www.nuun.net/nems/NuunLabs/
> >
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Dear Sir,
It is very nice. May I suggest removing the part

مع برامج تطبيقية متنوعة
"
Thanks and best regards.

						 Sincerely Yours
						 A. Sharaf Eldin
						 IS Dept.
						 CCIS, KSU,
				 P.O. Box 51178, Riyadh 11543
						 Saudi Arabia


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Khaled Al-Ghoneim, PhD.
> Sent: 18 جمادى الاولى, 1420 11:31 ص
> To: saudi_linux@egroups.com
> Subject: [saudi_linux] FW: Design
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tarek A. Al-Ghonaim [SMTP:me@...]
> > Sent: 15 جمادى الاولى, 1420 08:05 م
> > To: Khaled Al-Ghoneim, PhD.
> > Subject: Design
> >
> > Dear brother abo Abdulaziz
> >  
> >    This is a draft design for the CD cover .. Please foreward it to
> > SLUG.
> >  
> >    <<All.doc>>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/saudi_linux
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>
>  << File: All.doc >>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tarek A. Al-Ghonaim [SMTP:me@...]
> Sent: 15 جمادى الاولى, 1420 08:05 م
> To: Khaled Al-Ghoneim, PhD.
> Subject: Design
>
> Dear brother abo Abdulaziz
>  
>    This is a draft design for the CD cover .. Please foreward it to
> SLUG.
>  
>    <<All.doc>>

Dear Br. Ahmed,

A.A.W.W.

"Ahmed Sharaf Eldin Ahmed, PhD." wrote:
>
> Dear Sirs,
> It is a good idea but what will be the role of SCC?.

Dr. Khalid is contacting SCC  (Dr. Abdullah Al-Slamah) to
coordinate with him in this matter.


> .. What will be the "price" we have to pay?

Up to now it looks "free", I hope. We have not discussed all
the details.

> Thanks and best regards.
>
>                                                 Sincerely Yours
>                                                 A. Sharaf Eldin
>                                                 IS Dept.
>                                                 CCIS, KSU,
>                                 P.O. Box 51178, Riyadh 11543
>                                                 Saudi Arabia
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Abdulaziz Al-Zoman [SMTP:zoman@...]
> > Sent: 17 جمادى الاولى, 1420 10:06 ص
> > To:   Linux Group
> > Subject:      [saudi_linux] GITEX 99
> >
> > Dear Brothers,
> >
> > I have talked with Alalamih if they could help OSS on
> > participating in GITEX 99. Initially, they do not
> > mind but before I go officially with them does any
> > one have suggestion/objection/problem with this
> > direction?
> >
> > Please give you feed back ASAP (As you read it).
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Abu Omar
> > __________________________________________________________
> > Abdulaziz H. Al-Zoman, Ph.D.,      Tel: +966 1 481 3208
> > Internet Services Unit, KACST      Fax: +966 1 481 3254
> > POBox 6086, Riyadh 11442,        email: zoman@...
> > Saudi Arabia                          zoman@...
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Best regards,

Abu Omar
__________________________________________________________
Abdulaziz H. Al-Zoman, Ph.D.,      Tel: +966 1 481 3208
Internet Services Unit, KACST      Fax: +966 1 481 3254
POBox 6086, Riyadh 11442,        email: zoman@...
Saudi Arabia 		 zoman@...
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Dear Sirs,
It is a good idea but what will be the role of SCC?. What will be the
"price" we have to pay?
Thanks and best regards.

						 Sincerely Yours
						 A. Sharaf Eldin
						 IS Dept.
						 CCIS, KSU,
				 P.O. Box 51178, Riyadh 11543
						 Saudi Arabia


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abdulaziz Al-Zoman [SMTP:zoman@...]
> Sent: 17 جمادى الاولى, 1420 10:06 ص
> To: Linux Group
> Subject: [saudi_linux] GITEX 99
>
> Dear Brothers,
>
> I have talked with Alalamih if they could help OSS on
> participating in GITEX 99. Initially, they do not
> mind but before I go officially with them does any
> one have suggestion/objection/problem with this
> direction?
>
> Please give you feed back ASAP (As you read it).
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Abu Omar
> __________________________________________________________
> Abdulaziz H. Al-Zoman, Ph.D.,      Tel: +966 1 481 3208
> Internet Services Unit, KACST      Fax: +966 1 481 3254
> POBox 6086, Riyadh 11442,        email: zoman@...
> Saudi Arabia 		 zoman@...
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
>
> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/saudi_linux
> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
>

Dear Brothers,

I have talked with Alalamih if they could help OSS on
participating in GITEX 99. Initially, they do not
mind but before I go officially with them does any
one have suggestion/objection/problem with this
direction?

Please give you feed back ASAP (As you read it).

--
Best regards,

Abu Omar
__________________________________________________________
Abdulaziz H. Al-Zoman, Ph.D.,      Tel: +966 1 481 3208
Internet Services Unit, KACST      Fax: +966 1 481 3254
POBox 6086, Riyadh 11442,        email: zoman@...
Saudi Arabia 		 zoman@...
----------------------------------------------------------

Here are some comments:
	 - The navigation sidebar has some wrong links, some of them
	   point to scs.org.sa
		 * Home should point back to www.linux.org.sa
		 * Others which are nor ready should give
			 "Under construction" message, not "Not found"

	 - The four main points (General Information,
	   Why Linux is grate, ...) are repeated.

	 - I think, the introduction part should contain the
	   some thing about Saudi Computer Society and
	   the Open Source Group.
		 -> If you allow me, I would suggest that
		    Dr. Khalid draft this introduction part
	  	    and send it to the group.

	 - Would be good if the web page put some information
	   about OSS meetings and the upcoming participation
	   on the KSU exhibition. And announce that there will
	   be FREE CDs distributed on the exhibition.

Yesterday I visited linux4arab.com. It is a good site.
Do we have to compete with it or what? To me they provide
the information that I think we want to disseminate. I think
we have to define our objectives (e.g., what type of infromation
and services that we want to provide on our Linux web site).

yusuf@... wrote:
>
> Salam Brothers,
>
>         Please provide your comments, on the what areas should be
>         present on our website and who would be ready to work on those
>         areas.
>
>         The website is: http://www.linux.org.sa
>
>         Salaam,
>
> Yusuf J. Mansuri
>
> ___________________________________________________
> Yusuf Mansuri,   Executive Director,  Internet Unit
> Saudi Telecom Company, P.O.Box: 6086, Riyadh  11442
>
> Saudi Arabia. Ph: 9661 452 9426  Fax: 9661 452 9465
> Email: yusuf@...  Web: http://www.stc.com.sa
> ---------------------------------------------------

--
Best regards,

Abu Omar
__________________________________________________________
Abdulaziz H. Al-Zoman, Ph.D.,      Tel: +966 1 481 3208
Internet Services Unit, KACST      Fax: +966 1 481 3254
POBox 6086, Riyadh 11442,        email: zoman@...
Saudi Arabia 		 zoman@...
----------------------------------------------------------

First Thank you very much Dr.khaled for your replay on the meeting ,,

   About the Arabic instructions, it was good but too short and not in
details, it focus on the partion part of the installion only, not given
any instruction on the system configuration (VGA , Mouse ,, ), in other
word , It needs some improvement.

Waiting For The Meeting Report
Fahad Al-Jalajel

-----Original Message-----
From: "Khaled Al-Ghoneim, PhD." <Khaled@...>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:26:58 +0300
Subject: [saudi_linux] Arabic instructions

> Assalamu alaikum,
>
> Here is a small word file which contains some basic instructions in
> Arabic. Suggestions are welcome. This file was created by two of my
> students.
>
>  - Khaled
>  <<خطوات تجهيز.doc>>
>
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>
>
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>
>
>

Assalamu alaikum,

I checked the site this morning and it gave an error message (saying
that you have no permissions to access / or something like this.). I
checked it again from a different place now, and it is working.

Anyway, the first page is great. I followed some links. I suggest that
instead of using some material from other sites, we just put a link to
the other site. For example, the page about why linux is great seems to
be from another site (as indicated by the notice at the end).

Anyway, Let's here what you all think. Please check the site and send
your comments to the whole list. Thanks.

	 - Khaled

> -----Original Message-----
> From: yusuf@... [SMTP:yusuf@...]
> Sent: 13 جمادى الاولى, 1420 04:35 م
> To: saudi_linux@egroups.com
> Subject: [saudi_linux] www.linux.org.sa
>
> Salam Brothers,
>
>  Please provide your comments, on the what areas should be
>  present on our website and who would be ready to work on those
>  areas.
>
>  The website is: http://www.linux.org.sa
>
>  Salaam,
>
>
>
> Yusuf J. Mansuri
>
> ___________________________________________________
> Yusuf Mansuri,   Executive Director,  Internet Unit
> Saudi Telecom Company, P.O.Box: 6086, Riyadh  11442
>
> Saudi Arabia. Ph: 9661 452 9426  Fax: 9661 452 9465
> Email: yusuf@...  Web: http://www.stc.com.sa
> ---------------------------------------------------

Assalamu alaikum,

Here is a small word file which contains some basic instructions in
Arabic. Suggestions are welcome. This file was created by two of my
students.

	 - Khaled
  <<خطوات تجهيز.doc>>

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			 Email: kag@...

Salam Brothers,

	 Please provide your comments, on the what areas should be
	 present on our website and who would be ready to work on those
	 areas.

	 The website is: http://www.linux.org.sa

	 Salaam,



Yusuf J. Mansuri

___________________________________________________
Yusuf Mansuri,   Executive Director,  Internet Unit
Saudi Telecom Company, P.O.Box: 6086, Riyadh  11442

Saudi Arabia. Ph: 9661 452 9426  Fax: 9661 452 9465
Email: yusuf@...  Web: http://www.stc.com.sa
---------------------------------------------------

Oops! Sorry. It seems that this list is already not moderated. Please
ignore this posting. Thanks.

	 - Khaled




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Khaled Al-Ghoneim, PhD.
> Sent: 11 جمادى الاولى, 1420 11:15 ص
> To: saudi_linux@egroups.com
> Subject: [saudi_linux] Should the list be moderated?
>
> Assalamu alaikum,
>
> What do you think about moderation of the list? I suggest that we make
> list unmoderated so that your posting is sent immediately to all
> members. We should all observe some self-restraint, and if problems
> show
> up in the future, we can switch back to a moderated list.
>
> What do you think? Prepare your vote for tomorrow.
>
>  - Khaled
>
>
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>
>

Asslamo Alikom,,

I’m sorry, I can not be in the meeting today because I’m sick these
days, and I hope that I’ll be fine next meeting and I’ll be there,,

   I hope that one will read his e-mail before he goes to the meeting,,
my assignment was Publication , and I’ve collect some of them and I’ll
continue in this progress , I think that some of us has some material
in this subject , So please who has any send it to me or the group to
have a good collection  ,,

I’m waiting for the meeting report ,, “Allah Ma’akom”

Fahad Al-Jalajel


-----Original Message-----
From: "Khaled Al-Ghoneim, PhD." <Khaled@...>
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:07:35 +0300
Subject: [saudi_linux] Reminder: Tomorrow's meeting

>
>  Monday at 8:30PM.
>
> 	 - Khaled
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/saudi_linux
> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>

Assalamu alaikum,

The following domain names has been registered:

linux.org.sa
oss.org.sa
opensource.org.sa


	 - Khaled


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			 Email: kag@...

Assalamu alaikum,

What do you think about moderation of the list? I suggest that we make
list unmoderated so that your posting is sent immediately to all
members. We should all observe some self-restraint, and if problems show
up in the future, we can switch back to a moderated list.

What do you think? Prepare your vote for tomorrow.

	 - Khaled


-----------------------------------------------+------------------------
----
Dr. Khaled Al-Ghoneim  | Switch to Linux,
P.O.Box 3866 	 |   the free
Riyadh 11481 	 |     operating system
Saudi Arabia 	 |        for ordinary PCs.
Ph: 	  467-8917  | Fax: 9661-467-5630
			 Email: kag@...

Monday at 8:30PM.

		 - Khaled

Jazzak Allah khairan.

	 - Khaled


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abdulaziz Al-Zoman [SMTP:zoman@...]
> Sent: 10 جمادى الاولى, 1420 11:40 ص
> To: Linux Group
> Subject: [saudi_linux] RedHat ftp site is mirrored by ISU/KACST
>
> Dear brothers,
>
> Assalamo alaikum wr. wb.
>
> ISU/KACST is mirroring some ftp sites such as RedHad.
> Here is a list of mirrored sites:
>
> Directory of ftp://ftp.isu.net.sa/pub/mirrors/
>
>  contrib.redhat.com
>  du.sort
>  ftp.freebsd.org
>  ftp.isi.edu
>  ftp.openbsd.org
>  ftp.redhat.com
>  ftp.simtel.net
>  ftp.uk.debian.org
>  ftp.xemacs.org
>  master.kernel.org
>  prep.ai.mit.edu
>  saens.debian.org
>  updates.redhat.com
>
> You can suggest other ftp sites to ISU.
> See  http://www.isu.net.sa/forms/request.cgi?t=f
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Abu Omar
> __________________________________________________________
> Abdulaziz H. Al-Zoman              Tel: +966 1 481 3208
> Internet Services Unit, KACST      Fax: +966 1 481 3254
> POBox 6086, Riyadh 11442,        email: zoman@...
> Saudi Arabia
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
>
> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/saudi_linux
> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
>

Salam,

    Please Tarik, Could you send me your Email. We need to arrange a time
to meet for the CD-ROM design.

Best Regards,
Wael,

Dear brothers,

Assalamo alaikum wr. wb.

ISU/KACST is mirroring some ftp sites such as RedHad.
Here is a list of mirrored sites:

Directory of ftp://ftp.isu.net.sa/pub/mirrors/

	 contrib.redhat.com
	 du.sort
	 ftp.freebsd.org
	 ftp.isi.edu
	 ftp.openbsd.org
	 ftp.redhat.com
	 ftp.simtel.net
	 ftp.uk.debian.org
	 ftp.xemacs.org
	 master.kernel.org
	 prep.ai.mit.edu
	 saens.debian.org
	 updates.redhat.com

You can suggest other ftp sites to ISU.
See  http://www.isu.net.sa/forms/request.cgi?t=f

--
Best regards,

Abu Omar
__________________________________________________________
Abdulaziz H. Al-Zoman              Tel: +966 1 481 3208
Internet Services Unit, KACST      Fax: +966 1 481 3254
POBox 6086, Riyadh 11442,        email: zoman@...
Saudi Arabia
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LUG 2nd Meeting
				     6/5/1420
				 ---------------

  The second meeting of the Linux user group (LUG) was held in the SCS office,
and we decided to hold the next meeting in the same place the coming Monday
at 8:30pm. The progress on the action items of the previous meeting were
reviewed. There are rumors that Gitex is sold out. Dr. Khaled has reserved a
booth in the local Internet show. The following tasks were added:

  - Establishing a web page under SCS site (Yusuf Mansouri).
  - Fahad Al-Jalajel will take care of the publications.
  - Preparing the CD cover and the group logo (Tarik Alghoneim).
  - Preparing the documentation pages for the CD (Abdulaziz Almhmeed).
  - Contacting international companies for sponsorship (Dr. Tawfig Alrabiah).
  - Press release?? (currently on hold for Gitex).

END.

-- AbdulRahman

LUG 2nd Meeting
				     6/5/1420
				 ---------------

  The second meeting of the Linux user group (LUG) was held in the SCS office,
and we decided to hold the next meeting in the same place the coming Monday
at 8:30pm. The progress on the action items of the previous meeting were
reviewed. There are rumors that Gitex is sold out. Dr. Khaled has reserved a
booth in the local Internet show. The following tasks were added:

  - Establishing a web page under SCS site (Yusuf Mansouri).
  - Fahad Al-Jalajel will take care of the publications.
  - Preparing the CD cover and the group logo (Tarik Alghoneim).
  - Preparing the documentation pages for the CD (Abdulaziz Almhmeed).
  - Contacting international companies for sponsorship (Dr. Tawfig Alrabiah).
  - Press release?? (currently on hold for Gitex).

END.

-- AbdulRahman

Salaam Brothers,


	 A sample website for linux has been created at
	 http://www.scs.org.sa/linux

	 Please note that most of the links will not work.
	 They are meant to be place holders and to attract
	 discussion on what topics need to go on the
	 left or right.

	 Critical comments, suggestions welcome.


Yusuf J. Mansuri

___________________________________________________
Yusuf Mansuri,   Executive Director,  Internet Unit
Saudi Telecom Company, P.O.Box: 6086, Riyadh  11442

Saudi Arabia. Ph: 9661 452 9426  Fax: 9661 452 9465
Email: yusuf@...  Web: http://www.stc.com.sa
---------------------------------------------------

Here is a summary of the first meeting:

-- AbdulRahman


			 LUG Meeting 1/5/1420
			   Gitex Preparation
			 --------------------

1. Three goals were discussed:
	 a) Increasing the awareness in Linux.
	 b) Finding other interested people in Linux.
	 c) Introducing the IT managers to the existing Linux support.

2. The audience we target are:
	 a) People who are not aware of Linux.
	 c) People who are skeptical of Linux.
	 d) Users of Linux.

3. A list of what could be presented was discussed which includes:
	 a) Distributing Linux CDs.
	 b) Arabic Installation guide.
	 c) Collecting the different news clips about Linux.
	 d) Showing Linux on different platforms: IBM, SUN, Mac etc.
	 e) Presenting seminars.
	 f) Showing books about Linux and Linux Journal.
	 g) Showing Alidreesi running on Linux from Sakhr.
	 h) Presenting different applications on Linux such as: Arabic, Database..
	 i) Pictures from KSU's Linux lab.
	 j) Live Linux Installation show which is repeated every three hours or so.
	 k) A running presentation about Linux on a data show.
	 l) A comparison between Linux and NT.
	 m) Gifts: Mugs, T-shirts..
	 n) Inviting a well known person in the Linux community.

4. The following items were assigned to specific people:
	 a) Contacting SCS and Gitex, (Dr. Khaled)
	 b) Web page, mailing list and slide presentation (Esam Al-wagait)
	 c) Linux CD (Alghamdi)
	 d) Publication (Rayed Alrashed)
	 e) Shows (AbdulRahman Aljadhai)

   In addition the following will be provided by CCIS of KSU:
	 a) Printing the brochure.
	 b) Sponsoring two people to attend Gitex.
	 c) Providing two computer machines.
	 d) Providing secretarial services.


END.

This is a test message. Sorry! Please don't reply.

	 - Khaled

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