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Sanguinarius News & Updates - 2 March, 2005
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Hello, again, from Sangi-Land. It's time for the News at Night.

This month's crisis was when I tried to install a program, and when I
rebooted, Windows could not be loaded. I was offline for a few days,
but was eventually able to run the Windows Recovery Disk without
having to do a full format and reinstall (and lose literally
everything on my hard drive in the format). The only thing is, is
that all the programs are still *technically installed on the hard
drive and listed in the Start Menu, but Windows doesn't know they're
installed because their info is not written in the registry and where
ever else a program writes to when one installs it); some programs
work, others don't. I've been reinstalling them on an as-needed
basis, because I don't want to have to reinstall everything and then
end up turning around in a few weeks and doing it ALL over again once
I can get a new hard drive (my current drive is slowly going bad).

For anyone wsanting to read what a rather hellish vamp out is like,
click over to my Live Journal at
http://www.livejournal.com/users/sanguinarius/11457.html

Please check out the following link:

Sanguinarius' VampFangs Store -- Don't get caught fangless! We've
got a variety of fangs & veneers to choose from: Scarecrow fangs,
corpse veneers, Lost Boys, chrome, more. Also, we've got custom
teeth: Austin Powers, gold teeth & fangs, skeleton teeth, hillbilly
teeth, etc. Plus other cool stuff like Blood Vial fang necklaces &
earrings, FX horns, Bloody Mary makeup, clothing, scary Softflex
masks, thermoplastic molding kits, and more. We even have Werewolf
Fangs and sterling silver Fangs! Go check these out! Sanguinarius'
VampFangs Store: http://www.vampfangs.net/shop/index.php?ref=33

--Sanguinarius

Sanguinarius.org for Real Vampires /
Sanguinarius: The Vampire Support Page
http://www.sanguinarius.org/


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HAPPENINGS IN THE NEWS:
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Young blood helps old bodies regenerate
Boston Globe - Feb 21, 2005

Call it the Vampire Effect. Scientists announced last week that they
have found a mysterious factor in blood that can give elderly bodies
the power to regenerate as if they were young again.

Full article at:
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2005/02/22/yo
ung_blood_helps_old_bodies_regenerate/

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Strange corpse has some muttering the word 'chupacabra'
By: Reed Upton, 02/10/2005 11:15:05 PM

Some New Mexicans say it's the weirdest thing they've ever seen: a
creature – and that's the best word to describe it – found on
Albuquerque's West Mesa.

To some, it's simply intriguing. To others, it's downright scary.
The creature belongs to Robert Wheeler.

"It was found out on the West Mesa," says Wheeler. "A friend of mine
was out there shooting and kicked it out of the dirt."

"It looks like a gargoyle" said Wheeler's friend Steve Garcia. "It
has these sponge-like lips."

Garcia and Wheeler say Hispanics seem most affected by the creature –
and what it might be.

Full article at: http://www.kob.com/index.cfm?
viewer=storyviewer&id=17037&cat=HOME

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Many say goth label doesn't paint the right picture
BY JUSTIN WALDEN
Press & Sun-Bulletin, Sunday, February 20, 2005

Jason Ramey grudgingly accepts being labeled a "goth."

At first glance, the 17-year-old Johnson City resident seems to fit
the general description of the gothic subculture. Ramey -- who likes
to call himself J'son -- dresses in all black, and sports black
eyeliner and red nail polish. He listens to heavy metal music.

Now a junior at Johnson City High School, he was removed from a class
in the eighth grade because he had too much makeup on.

Being considered a goth used to bother Ramey, who now considers
it "just a label." But it's a label fraught with stereotypes, many of
which are untrue, he said.

Full article at:
http://www.pressconnects.com/special/schools/stories/022005-
149641.shtml

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Crown ready to retry Johnathan case
Colin Perkel
Canadian Press - Friday, February 18, 2005

TORONTO -- A date has been set for the next stage in the Johnathan
murder case in Toronto.

The Crown and defence met with a judge Friday morning and the case
was put over to March 16.

The Crown has no plans to alter the charges when it retries a
sensational murder case even though the first trial ended in a
mistrial over the possible perjury of its key witness, a senior
prosecutor said Thursday.

That would mean the three teens accused of killing a 12-year-old boy
in a case that featured tales of vampires and bloodsucking will again
have to face a potentially lengthy first-degree murder trial.

Full article at: http://www.canada.com/fortstjohn/story.html?
id=bc66a501-c1ae-455b-a894-a03523a9c58a

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Deal possible in Johnathan case
'When everybody's ready, we'll sit down and talk': Crown Defence
lawyers say teens in limbo — the `hardest situation'
PETER SMALL, STAFF REPORTER
TheStar.com - Feb. 18, 2005. 06:52 AM

Full article at: http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?
pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1108680612955&call
_pageid=970599119419

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'Vampire case' ends in mistrial
'Bizarre stuff' led to teen's horrific death
By CP
Winnipeg Sun - Thu, February 17, 2005

TORONTO -- Teenage vampires, a lust for blood sucking and an alleged
murder plot that left an innocent 12-year-old dead of 71 knife
wounds. But what might at first appear to be the ghoulish imagination
of a B-movie scriptwriter has been playing out in a downtown
courtroom, where a startling twist left a 2 1/2-month trial in
shambles.

Full article at:
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegSun/News/2005/02/17/933695-
sun.html

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'Vamp' attack arrest
ic Birmingham.co.uk, UK - Feb 8, 2005
By Justine Halifax, Evening Mail.

Police have arrested a man who is believed to have sparked an urban
vampire myth throughout Birmingham.

The man was wanted for biting three members of a family in
an "isolated incident" at Christmas before fleeing the scene.

The incident sparked fear of a crazed vampire on the loose and led to
a spate of reports of further random attacks in Alum Rock and Small
Heath.

Full article at:
http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/mail/tm_objectid=15166260
&method=full&siteid=50002&headline=-vamp--attack-arrest-name_page.html


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COMMUNITY NEWS & ANNOUNCEMENTS:
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Lord D'Drennan Dead

Lord D'Drennan committed suicide on Valentine's Day, 14 February.
The elders in New York City (a.k.a. Gotham) planned a memorial
service. A formal memorial ceremony and gathering was held Sunday,
February 27th at 28 East 23rd Street to create a peaceful sanctuary
where all manner of family expressed freely amongst one another. For
more information on memorials, visit http://www.st-eve.net/d/

From Father Sebastian Todd:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/discodoll/13246.html

Dear friends and family of the vampyre/vampire community,

Today Father Vincent called me around 5pm EST to notify me of some
horrible news. Lord D'Drennan, the long time Regent of the Court of
Gotham and the legendary metal manipulator who gave us the aesthetic
inspiration of the first Legacy Ankh design passed away sometime on
this Sunday February 20th, 2005.

I do not have many details as of yet.

His most famous piece of art, the "Legacy Ankh" has set the standard
for the world wide vampyre community to design their own house ankhs.
He is also an outstanding leader, vampyre, brother, friend and
mentor. He will be remembered with love and passion as one of
the "founding fathers" of the Sanguinarium and vampyre community in
Gotham.

Please light a candle for him tonight to help send his soul on the
journey to the hereafter. No memorial service has been set, so please
be patient and await any news. Community leaders have been made aware
of this worldwide. His concort Lady Susie needs positive energy as
well as his dayside family.

More details will be posted as made available.

Hail Elorath,
Father Sebastian
Magister, House Sahjaza

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Michelle Belanger informed Sanguinarius, "D'Drennan requested all his
art be destroyed as well. To me that's an even bigger tragedy -- it
erases him more completely than anything else could do." I inquired
whether this included the sanguine "Legacy" ankh of Sanguinarium
fame, and she said, "No -- things people already own are ok,
apparently. Just whatever was in his studio, unsold works, unfinished
works, etc."

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DarkIceV Dead of Leukemia

There has been a recent rumor that DarkIceV was dead. I regret to
inform that this the rumor true. He passed on from leukemia on
January 14th. DarkIceV was a longtime member of the community and,
at one time, a regular and an Op in #Sanguinarius IRC channel on
dal.net. He went on to become an administrator on the ForeverChat
IRC network. He will be missed by many.

His home page is still online at http://www.darkicev.com

Here is a message from Gorath:

This is going to be a short post but an important one to me and Raven.

Last night I recieved a call from raven while I was visiting my
father. She called me to inform me that a friend of ours just passed
away from leukemia. I dont know if many of you know him but I want
him to be remembered

On-line he was known as DarkIce V his real name was Charles.

We had known that he was sick but thought that he was getting
better....obviously that was not the case. I wish I got to know
Charles better and will regret not doing so sooner. Raven and I had
planed to surprised him with a visit this summer. For the time that I
did know him, I got to know someone that had a good heart and was
someone you could call friend from the get go.

He was my friend.

A piece of me died last night with the lose of DarkIce V because i
love all my friends.

I hope and pray that he is remembered as fondly if not more fondly as
I remember him....I hope thouse of you that knew him...if even for
and instant remember him to. Dont let a good soul fade in the
obscurity of forgetfulness

This is to you Charles...may you have the peace and happyness in the
afterlife that you didnt in life...and if you come back to live a new
life, may it be one that a good soul like yours deserves.

From Ravenfire and Myself, All our heart and condolences to Charles
family and friends.

You will be missed and loved my friend.

signed with sorrow: Gorath

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State merges with religion: An arrest within the community
Posted: Friday, August 15 @ 09:31:57 CEST

OcculticKerri writes "Recently a 'cult' was featured on local news
around the Central region of Alabama. Footage revealed a police raid
of the alledged 'satanic Gathering' and all of the altar equipment
was confiscated for further percecution of the 'perpetraters'. It
was a small house in Saint Clair County where a coven of Occultists
and vampires gathered on a regular basis for practition. The clan
head and 2 other 'criminals' were arrested. Ultimatly the police
could not find anything to charge them on except 'disturbing the
peace' when in reality they were a discreet and peaceful group of
people. A police officer was interviewed and spoke of how 'such
things should be against the law because satanism is wrong'. Nice to
see that Religious ignorance is still alive and well in Alabama."

Posted to the National Vampire Association website at
http://members.lycos.co.uk/xnvax/

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Masquerade Ball

The Cincinnati Vampire Meet-up Group is happy to announce the first
ever Masquerade Ball to take place at the historic Southgate House in
Newport, KY on October 1, 2005. Door open at 7 PM and the event runs
until Midnight. Tickets are on sale now. You must be 21 or older to
attend.

The planning committee is still excepting requests from merchants who
are interested in vending -- space is very limited.

Ads are available in the event program. For ad rates please contact
Za'El or Bladzheart.

For more information or to purchase tickets follow the link to:
http://www.angelfire.com/goth2/creationsbyzael/vampyre_ball.htm

Skye
Hostess of the Masquerade Ball

For more information about the Cincinnati Vampire Meet-up Group,
contact Skye or visit the site at: http://vampires.meetup.com/128/

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V-Magazine Issue #6 Published!

This issue has the Original New York Vampyr Theatre writeup and
reviews, Vampire Movie and Book reviews, some Danse Macabre Art, and
advertising. As always, this is a free download for two weeks. This
issue only has 39 pages as opposed to the larger volumes of weeks
past. Rhaven will be reposting true vampire facts in the next issue
with more information added, in case you cannot get the first issue
that had all that. Enjoy!

If you wish to have some of your work in published form in the next
issue, let Rhaven know.

Rhaven Blackwood publishes V Magazines on www.lulu.com. Issues are
available for download or print version orderable by mail. Due to
immense popularity, lulu.com has demanded that Rhaven enter a royalty
on all past issues so that they can get a commission. Current Issues
are always free for two weeks.

V Magazine #6 (free download) -- http://www.lulu.com/content/108461
The darkness in performing arts is seductive and well worth
exploring, as it reflects the darkness of the human psyche, and we
must know ourselves. In this issue is the New York Original Vampyr
Theatre - La Commedia Del Sangue, Movie reviews, book reviews,
vampire comics, and different vampire meetup groups. All for your
distraction. ($10.38 for printed version)

Back Issues ($1.25 for download):

V Magazine #5 -- http://www.lulu.com/content/104735
Art and Information Issue. Art and Vital Information for vampires,
included, as usual is The Buzz, Vampire Legends, News, and the Urban
Legend of Bloody Mary. ($12.98 for printed version)

V Magazine #4 -- http://www.lulu.com/content/102988
The History Of Vampirism in all of its forms. ($13.66 for printed
version)

V Magazine #3 -- http://www.lulu.com/content/101842
Special Edition on Vampire Hunters and our opinions on them. D ark
Poetry, Lilith Studies, and Graveyards and Gargoyles Pictures.
($13.43 for printed version)

V Magazine #2 -- http://www.lulu.com/content/100104
Second Edition of V-Magazine, created by vampires for vampires. Even
more material in the second edition than the first. If you are one
of us, learn more about yourself. If you are not sure, delve into
the world of human living vampires, or HLV's. We are real, not
immortal or superhuman. We are simply a separate breed. ($13.73 for
printed version)

V Magazine #1 -- http://www.lulu.com/content/100111
Vampires are not superhuman or immortal, we are real, what is called
Human Living Vampires. Disregard whatever you think you know and
delve into our world. ($11.93 for printed version)

Download and enjoy.

This magazine does include some of our more non-personal discussions,
with no names included, topics relevant to our ways, and artwork,
models and such. To be in a V-Magazine Issue, email Rhaven Blackwood
at rhavenblackwood@...
Use any material to your heart's desire, that is not an issue with me.

See Rhaven's published writings page at http://www.lulu.com/sarapope

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Working on Future Issues

Rhaven Blackwood needs models, artwork, poetry/verse, whatever you
have on hand. Even your own thoughts on vampirism is welcome. As
always it will be a free download. Raven hopes you enjoyed the first
four, those of you who have downloaded them so far, that is, and
would love some feedback, ideas, etc. If you want to advertise that
is fine, too. Rhaven created a yahoo group called vampmarket for any
of you who wish to join, no matter who you are. It's discussion,
free trade, advertising, whatever you wish. The URL is:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vampmarket/ -- Even if you want to talk
roleplaying it is okay, you are all invited.

* * *

Dividian resigns from vamp community completely

--- In losthouseofenki@yahoogroups.com, "Dividian" wrote:

It is with great regret I come to you all this morning. Fearful I've
made the gravest mistake any one man can.

Letting people put their trust in him.

Over the past week I have had enought traumatic experiences that
could kill a small city off. It's just too much for one man to handle.

Since the fall of my original group the NAVP, there have been
circumstances to start a new group. Those circumstances were simple:
to help other in their struggle for self-awareness, and to give them
the chance I never had. Over the past year I have had hundreds of
great people come into my life. I've had the opportunity to watch
them grow into what I wish I could be: Strong, Intellegent,
Unshakable "PEOPLE". I use the word "people" because it encompasses
everything they are, whether it be vampire, otherkin, witch, and
human.

Coral has become the epitome of everything I've ever wanted to be.
Her quest for knowledge is great, and she has the kindness I wish I
had. She is a true Elder in my opinion. No matter what, she is always
there.

This is why I am about to give [the group] to her.

Effective immediately I am resigning my position in the LHOE [Lost
House of Enki] and the Entire Vampire community. My life with Aliana
has suffered greatly this evening over all of this, and it will
suffer no more. I love this woman with all my heart and soul, and
without her I'm not me.

Coral..... Keep your head up, Stay strong, and keep the wind at your
back. You are loved by everyone here.

I Give You
The Lady Coral
Elder / Moderator / Owner
The Lost House Of Enki.

One more thing and I will be on my way.

It's been great knowing you all and watching you grow as individuals
and people. I ask that you all not message me. I will be creating all
new Yahoo IDs. I will be running a hack program on all the Dividian
IDs I have so no one can log onto them. Please donot try to find or
contact me. Those of you part of the communtiy that have me on
MySpace or Live Journal know that I will be deleting you. I apologise
for this but it is a necessary evil. I am taking my leave so I may
live my life with the one I love.

I love you all.
Thank You For Everything.
Dividian
Human Being

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Vampires Meetup

Meet up with other vampires in your area each month. Meetups allow
you to gather at a venue each month in your city or area to meet in,
and up to 545 other cities, including international. Click through
to http://vampires.meetup.com/ for more information and to find on
what day your local Vampire Meetup is held. There is also a wide
variety of other Meetups to choose from, including Gothic, Teen
Vampires, Wiccan, Otherkin, and many more.

Other Meetups you may be interested in:

Teen Vampire Meetup: http://teenvampire.meetup.com/
Goth Meetup: http://goth.meetup.com/
Goth Parents Meetup: http://gothparents.meetup.com/
Otherkin Meetup: http://otherkin.meetup.com/
Pagan Meetup: http://pagan.meetup.com/
Witches Meetup: http://witches.meetup.com/

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Sanguinarius News & Updates Needs Your Help

I need "sniffers" who can scout around for vampire-community-related
stories, events, news, and other community goings-on for me. If
you're interested in contributing an article, information, etc., or
helping out on a regular basis, please contact me at Sang-
News@...

If anyone has any news or events they have planned and want me to
include the information in the next Sanguinarius News & Updates, or a
special announcement / time-sensitive release if it is before the end
of the month (you'll need to specify this), please send me the
information (who, what, when, where, why, etc.) in a brief write-up
to Sang-News@... and don't forget to post the
information on the Community Events Calendar, dang it. *smile*
That's what it's there for!

*** Also, if anybody wants to help me out with the Calendar, PLEASE
let me know! ***


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SITE UPDATES:
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Added new material to Problems Vampires Have (
http://www.sanguinarius.org/problems-01.shtml ).

Added new material to Fun Vampires Have (
http://www.sanguinarius.org/vampfun-01.shtml ).

The Real Vampire Directory ( http://www.sanguinarius.org/cgi-
bin/links/pages/ ) is still down.

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#Sanguinarius ( http://www.sanguinarius.org/~irc/ ).

Join us in IRC on dal.net for vampire support & paranormal-related
chat topics. Scheduled chat times: Wednesdays and Saturdays from
9pm to 11pm Eastern, 8pm to 10pm Central, 7pm to 9pm Mountain, and
6pm to 8 pm Pacific; and anytime throughout the day or night, you
will find someone in the channel to talk to.

Interested in visiting channel #Sanguinarius?

IRC users can visit the channel by connecting to: mesra.kl.my.dal.net
(preferred server) and typing "/join #sanguinarius" (without the
quotes). For those without a mIRC client, you can access the
chatroom via the web at:
http://www.sanguinarius.org/~irc/irc-chat/javachat.htm

* * *

The Vampiric Community Message & Support Board (
http://p206.ezboard.com/bsanguinarius )

- "The VCMB" currently has 1,432 registered members!

* * *

Teen Vampires ( http://www.sanguinarius.org/teen_vampires.shtml )

- Added a bit of info to "A Few Tips for Awakening Vampires".

- Added some awakening stories.

* * *

Vampire Guide, Tips & Advice (
http://www.sanguinarius.org/guide.shtml )

- Nothing new this month. Go and re-read some of the tips and advice
already there. :)

- Also check out the Vampiric Community Message Board (see above),
which has many tips and helpful advice archived in the messages, plus
current discussions with lots of good information.

* * *

New Articles ( http://www.sanguinarius.org/articles.shtml )

- Created a new section, "General Vampire Articles", which contains
information for and about vampires that isn't type-specific;
populated this section with a number of existing articles previously
categorized elsewhere.

- Added "Shielding 101". Article by SphynxCat contains some basic
information about psychic shields for beginners. (Added: 28 February,
2005)

- Added "Donor-Vamp Relations 101", by SphynxCat. The basic
foundations of a good donor-vampire relationship, issues that impact
a pre-existing relationship, and questions both the donor and the
vampire should ask. All donors and vampires should read this article.
(Added: 28 February, 2005)

- Added "Review: A Preliminary Review of The Psychic Vampire Codex".
Sarah Dorrance's review of Michelle Belanger's Psychic Vampire Codex.
(Added: 28 February, 2005)

- Added "Empathy". Article by Grampa-E contains information designed
to help those who are dealing with empathy. (Added 1 March, 2005)

More articles on the way, so stay tuned. I'm seeking articles about,
for and by donors.

* * *

Dreamland Gallery ( http://www.sanguinarius.org/store/ )

Get your Official Sanguinarius.org T-Shirts, look cool, and help
spread the word about Sanguinarius. "Have A Nice Night" and "I
(heart) Sangi" shirts. All (adult) sizes ranging from Small to 3X-
Large.

I am working on adding some new items, including making available
nicely done reprints of selected articles from Sanguinarius.org.

We accept credit cards securely through 2checkout.com (no
registration required)! No credit card? No problem! We also accept
PayPal, personal checks, and money orders. Place your order, and
upon checkout, select your preferred payment method, and you will
recieve instructions on what to do and where to send your payment.
It's fast and easy.

I also have some Sanguinarius Wear in a variety of styles (including
t-shirts and sweatshirts) at http://store.99dogs.com/sangi/ featuring
4 new designs: Sanguinarius Logo Wear (Blazing Ankh with Site Name),
the Blazing Ankh, Night Waters, and Bloodwine.

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Don't forget to stop by Sanguinarius' VampFangs Store at
http://www.vampfangs.net/shop/index.php?ref=33


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BOOK PICK OF THE MONTH:
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Bloody Fabulous! Recipes for the Sanguinary
By Ronin Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.vampire-awakening.com/voen/index2.htm

Recipes to help you curb the hunger that accompanies a sanguinary
lifestyle. These recipes consist of raw meats and/or real blood.
Always use caution in the cooking and partaking of raw meats and
blood!


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SITES TO CHECK OUT:
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Vampires of Eternal Night (VOEN)
A real vampire and therian community. This site is full of
information on many aspects of vampirism, as well as therians and
otherkin.
http://vampire-awakening.com/voen/

Vampyre Society
The purpose of the Vampyre Society is to offer a home for real
Vampyres and like-minded individuals, to share with others the
experiences of this life, and also to learn from one another. The
Vampyre Society works for, and with, the vampyre community to assist
those who are less fortunate than ourselves, and to provide the
support and guidance which is sometimes required. We work on keeping
our community clean of misconception, ignorance and persecution by
informing people of the reality of vampyrism whenever appropriate.
http://www.vampyresociety.org/

PSykic Fangs - Custom Fitted Acrylic Fangs
I am a newer fangsmith in the Southern California area. I create
custom made and fitted fangs made of dental acrylic at a better price
than many of the fangsmiths around.
http://www.freewebs.com/Psykicfangs

Crimson Connections
Do you linger on the outskirts of the "norm?" Do your desires run
deeper than the "average?" Do you seek something or someone who will
understand these darker passions? Then you have found your
crossroads... Dark, vampiric and gothic classifieds.
http://p197.ezboard.com/bvcclassifieds


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Sanguinarius accepts tips. If you have found this resource helpful
and would like to make a donation, even a few dollars, please follow
this link: http://www.sanguinarius.org/donations.shtml for
information on helping to defray Sanguinarius.org's operational costs.

SANGUINARIUS SEEKING SUBMISSIONS:

I'm looking for articles on and for vampires / vampirism: blood,
psychic vampires, the Vampyre lifestyle, donors, etc.; contributions
to "Problems Vampires Have" (seeking stories and anecdotes, not just
problem lists), "Fun Vampires Have", the "Vampire Guide, Tips, &
Advice", and "Teen Vampires" -- send them in to
submissions@...! I'll give you credit and an email/page
link if you want, just let me know what to put and who to credit, and
include the section it's for in the Subject line.

If you have any news tidbits or announcements that you feel would be
a useful inclusion for the next newsletter (out next month), please
feel free to pass them on to me at Sang-News@... . I
can't possibly be aware of everything that is going on, or of
interest to my newsletter subscribers. Thanks!

The cutoff date for sending items to be included in the next edition
is two (2) days before the end of the month. Unless it is a special
announcement meant for immediate release (please say so). If you're
planning an event or gathering, please send in your information /
announcement at least three (3) months prior to the event date. This
will allow enough time for people to make plans and/or save up to
attend after the notice is released. (And don't forget to add it to
the Vampiric Community Events Calendar, too!)

If anybody is willing to help out with translating and mirroring
translated information from Sanguinarius: The Vampire Support Page,
please get in touch with me at Sanguinarius@... so we
can talk about this.


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