I think Carling's rug is probably an Indo-Persian. I've been doing a lot of
in-home inspections lately, and MANY inexpensive Indo-Persians purchased by
a local store have been transferring dye to the underlying wall-to-wall
carpet. It is not bleeding wefts, it is literally crocking dyes OR painted
on dyes. I have encountered both lately. They are being imported (at this
store) from Fiezy. Look out for them.
I also agree with the post about Woven Legends. I just picked up two while
in Turkey, and they are fantastic! We had the pleasure of touring both their
repair facility in Izmir, as well as their dyeing/finishing facility.
Wonderful rugs and great people to deal with.
Nathan K.
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> 1. Dye bleeding badly from new rug
> From: carlylake@...
> 2. Re: Dye bleeding badly from new rug
> From: cfager@...
> 3. Re: Dye bleeding badly from new rug
> From: Chris.j.mountain@...
> 4. some photos
> From: mahdi dyn <mahdi_dyn@...>
> 5. Re: some photos
> From: cfager@...
> 6. Re: some photos
> From: Laura E Diggs <lediggs@...>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:27:40 -0500
> From: carlylake@...
> Subject: Dye bleeding badly from new rug
>
> Hello All,
>
> I am in the process of buying a new handmade rug for our home. We brought
one home on trial yesterday and after spreading it out on our floor,
rotating it once or twice, we noticed that our hands were blue!
> I took a moistened paper towel and ran it along the navy blue edge, and so
much dye came off that you'd think I'd wiped up spilled ink with the towel.
I tested the center areas that were various colors, including this blue, and
very little dye came off there.
>
> I'll return this rug, of course, but I'm curious as to why so much dye
would have been applied to the edges like this. Would a reputable dealer
handle such rugs, or could he not have been aware of it? I like this fellow
I'm dealing with (an Iranian) and I can see he's struggling to make a living
selling rugs from a storefront (just opened two months ago), and I'd like to
buy from him eventually. But... maybe I need to learn more before buying :)
>
> In the future when we visit rug dealers would it be out of place to test
the dyes with a damp towel? Should a rug be rejected if any dye bleeds out?
>
> Thanks for any help with this.
>
> Carling Lake
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:07:42 -0800
> From: cfager@...
> Subject: Re: Dye bleeding badly from new rug
>
> Carling,
>
> Great story. You should run away from the guy with the bleeding blue dye
as
> fast as you can. We've all made mistakes in our early selection of
dealers.
> You've had a great break in testing the carpet. It means you're being
> offered very cheap goods. (If the dye runs, its likely the warp contains
> nylon and the wool is inferior quality as well.)
>
> In a day when amazingly high quality new pieces are easily and
inexpensively
> available from such reputable sources as Woven Legends and Art Resources
> --to name just two-- its incredible how much junk there is out there. You
> didn't say what size carpet you are looking for, but keep in mind that if
> you check out consignment stores and other dealers, you're liable to find
an
> old rug in reasonable shape for about the same price as a new piece. For
> me, the hunt is always a lot of fun. Good luck. Chris.
>
> > From: carlylake@...
> > Reply-To: rug-fanatics@egroups.com
> > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:27:40 -0500
> > To: rug-fanatics@egroups.com
> > Subject: [rug-fanatics] Dye bleeding badly from new rug
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I am in the process of buying a new handmade rug for our home. We
brought one
> > home on trial yesterday and after spreading it out on our floor,
rotating it
> > once or twice, we noticed that our hands were blue!
> > I took a moistened paper towel and ran it along the navy blue edge, and
so
> > much dye came off that you'd think I'd wiped up spilled ink with the
towel. I
> > tested the center areas that were various colors, including this blue,
and
> > very little dye came off there.
> >
> > I'll return this rug, of course, but I'm curious as to why so much dye
would
> > have been applied to the edges like this. Would a reputable dealer
handle
> > such rugs, or could he not have been aware of it? I like this fellow I'm
> > dealing with (an Iranian) and I can see he's struggling to make a living
> > selling rugs from a storefront (just opened two months ago), and I'd
like to
> > buy from him eventually. But... maybe I need to learn more before
buying :)
> >
> > In the future when we visit rug dealers would it be out of place to test
the
> > dyes with a damp towel? Should a rug be rejected if any dye bleeds out?
> >
> > Thanks for any help with this.
> >
> > Carling Lake
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:44:57 GMT
> From: Chris.j.mountain@...
> Subject: Re: Dye bleeding badly from new rug
>
>
> Yes. avoid the rug and the seller. There is no excuse for dye to be
leaking from the rug like that. He may be a nice chap but his rugs are not
nice. Blue is a colour more likely to leak than many others. I would not
mind if you used a damp cloth. Hope this helps
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> >I am in the process of buying a new handmade rug for our home. We brought
one home on trial yesterday and after spreading it out on our floor,
rotating it once or twice, we noticed that our hands were blue!
> >I took a moistened paper towel and ran it along the navy blue edge, and
so much dye came off that you'd think I'd wiped up spilled ink with the
towel. I tested the center areas that were various colors, including this
blue, and very little dye came off there.
> >
> >I'll return this rug, of course, but I'm curious as to why so much dye
would have been applied to the edges like this. Would a reputable dealer
handle such rugs, or could he not have been aware of it? I like this fellow
I'm dealing with (an Iranian) and I can see he's struggling to make a living
selling rugs from a storefront (just opened two months ago), and I'd like to
buy from him eventually. But... maybe I need to learn more before buying :)
> >
> >In the future when we visit rug dealers would it be out of place to test
the dyes with a damp towel? Should a rug be rejected if any dye bleeds out?
> >
> >Thanks for any help with this.
> >
> >Carling Lake
> >
> >
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:34:25 -0800 (PST)
> From: mahdi dyn <mahdi_dyn@...>
> Subject: some photos
>
> Hi all, I want to show to you some photos of mosques
> with carpets: this is the way in Iran carpets have
> been used for over centuries: as big prayer carpets!
> Best regards, Mahdi from Iran.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:12:08 -0800
> From: cfager@...
> Subject: Re: some photos
>
> Thank you Mahdi. Nice picture. Chris
>
> > From: mahdi dyn <mahdi_dyn@...>
> > Reply-To: rug-fanatics@egroups.com
> > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:34:25 -0800 (PST)
> > To: rug-fanatics@egroups.com
> > Subject: [rug-fanatics] some photos
> >
> > Hi all, I want to show to you some photos of mosques
> > with carpets: this is the way in Iran carpets have
> > been used for over centuries: as big prayer carpets!
> > Best regards, Mahdi from Iran.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:52:16 -0700
> From: Laura E Diggs <lediggs@...>
> Subject: Re: some photos
>
> Please remove me from this list
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> On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:12:08 -0800 cfager@... writes:
> > Thank you Mahdi. Nice picture. Chris
> >
> > > From: mahdi dyn <mahdi_dyn@...>
> > > Reply-To: rug-fanatics@egroups.com
> > > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:34:25 -0800 (PST)
> > > To: rug-fanatics@egroups.com
> > > Subject: [rug-fanatics] some photos
> > >
> > > Hi all, I want to show to you some photos of mosques
> > > with carpets: this is the way in Iran carpets have
> > > been used for over centuries: as big prayer carpets!
> > > Best regards, Mahdi from Iran.
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