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Mr. Smith Goes to Washington -- RSICC Oath of Office   Message List  
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Re: [rs_public] Mr. Smith Goes to Washington -- RSICC Oath of Office

Hello Brother Sterling, Here is my Public Oath Confirmation. MY PUBLIC
AFFIRMATION

I, Bernhardt N. Arnold, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support
the
development of a constitution for the entire world as well as for nations,
states and communities, that will protect the freedom and fundamental rights
of all mankind; that I will defend this cause against all enemies, foreign
and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to this cause; that
I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of
evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the
office to which I am called to fulfill as my conscience directs: So help me
God.
Take care and God Bless you, your family and all Patriot Saints, Benny,
Christian patriot Saint



>From: "Sterling D. Allan, Facilitator" <sterling.d.allan@...>
>Reply-To: rs_public@yahoogroups.com
>To: "Remnant Saints Inter-Continental Congress egroup \(public\)"
><rs_public@yahoogroups.com>, "RSICC Special Notices egroup"
><rs_special@yahoogroups.com>, "RSICC Newsletter"
><rs_newsletter@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [rs_public] Mr. Smith Goes to Washington -- RSICC Oath of Office
>Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 02:10:39 -0700
>
>EXTREMELY IMPORTANT * EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
>EXTREMELY IMPORTANT * EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
>
>Re: Proposed RSICC O a t h o f O f f i c e
>
>============
>
>Remnant Saints Inter-Continental Congress
>NEWSLETTER
>Volume 1 Number 12
>February 27, 2002 2:00 am MST
>
>To: Full RSICC Membership and Friends
>
>http://www.rsicc.org/Newsletter/2002/Feb27MrSmith_Affirmation.htm
>
>
>This evening my wife and I watched the timeless classic "Mr. Smith Goes to
>Washington" -- a truly inspiring moving.
>
>I saw it while attending BYU years ago, but I must have slept through it
>because I didn't remember anything about it, other than the idea that a
>brave man takes on the corrupt powers that have infiltrated the Nation's
>Capital.
>
>The role Jimmy Stewart played epitomizes the "weak and simple things of the
>earth who thrash the nations by the power of the Spirit." I like to think
>that we here at RSICC are to world governance what "Mr. Smith" was
>portrayed
>to be to Congress. We are idealists -- simpletons, really; and we have the
>plain truth on our side. We are being pitted against a system that is
>deeply entrenched and very corrupt. And we are going to win, though it
>will
>be anything but easy. We might not have half the "brains" that the powers
>that be put on airs to possess, and certainly none of the connections, none
>of the "friends in high places" that enable things to happen or not to
>happen. But what we do possess is a commitment to common decency and
>common
>sense.
>
>As we start out, and even late in the game, we are going to be made to look
>the fool in the eyes of the world; like we are the ones in error, not those
>who are seeking to silence or destroy us because they know we possess
>enough
>knowledge to expose them and ruin their plans. Even they know that what we
>have is actually the truth, and many of those watching on know it too;
>while
>the big question will be whether or not we will be able to hang in there
>long enough to prevail, even though it would appear that all is lost --
>when
>the sentiment of those we are supposed to represent is even turned against
>us. It will be in that darkest of hours, that our unyielding devotion to
>the truth we possess will carry us and will carry the day.
>
>It was at that crucial moment, when Mr. Smith proclaims that he will
>continue to fight, even as he collapses to the floor of the Senate in sheer
>exhaustion, that God steps in and moves on the hearts of what goodness
>remains in those who had become corrupted. I can't help but think that
>there is a prophetic overtone in that depiction, as it parallels both the
>Crucifixion of Jesus Christ as well as the marring of the servant (a body
>of
>ones mighty and strong) prophesied to happen in the latter days as well.
>
>One of the things that struck me more than almost anything else in the
>movie
>was the oath of office, which "Mr. Smith" obviously took very seriously.
>
>"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the
>Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
>domestic;
>that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this
>obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion;
>and
>that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which
>I am about to enter: So help me God."
>
>The thought occurred to me was that we as a guild ought to implement a
>preliminary form of this when inducting new members (and those who are
>current members would also be required to take such an affirmation to
>continue as members). The difference is that rather than affirming that we
>will support and defend the Constitution (which we do anyway), we affirm
>that we will support and defend the development of a new constitution that
>will have as its object the protection of freedom and of the fundamental
>rights of all mankind on this planet.
>
>Joining RSICC should not be viewed lightly, as if it were something one can
>just leave at any time if they decide it's not for them, like a party they
>come in and visit for a few minutes before departing on the slightest whim.
>We need people to realize what they are up against, what we are aiming for,
>and then to commit to be a part of this and to stick with it.
>
>Leaving RSICC ought to be as difficult, and carry as much of a stigma, as
>divorce; or as resigning from a political office. It should not be easy.
>
>MY PUBLIC AFFIRMATION
>
>I, Sterling D. Allan, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the
>development of a constitution for the entire world as well as for nations,
>states and communities, that will protect the freedom and fundamental
>rights
>of all mankind; that I will defend this cause against all enemies, foreign
>and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to this cause;
>that
>I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of
>evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the
>office to which I am called to fulfill as my conscience directs: So help me
>God.
>
>END OF PUBLIC AFFIRMATION
>
>I hold no malice towards those of my compatriots who wish to take a similar
>oath without evoking acknowledgement of their trust in God to assist in
>carrying out this charge. While I hold such a trust and reliance deeply in
>my faith, I also believe it a crucial tenet of freedom to allow others to
>believe otherwise and yet be devoted to the common cause of freedom.
>
>As for RSICC, this acknowledgement and reliance upon God is an inseparable
>element that we embrace. It is one of the distinguishing factors of our
>mission.
>
>I hope others of you will join with me in proclaiming such a pledge. Feel
>free to do so by sending it to the guild. You may send it directly, or you
>can send it through myself or Joe Eldred so we can forward it to the entire
>guild.
>
>Any such declaration ought to be spoken before the entire guild.
>
>Perhaps we ought to standardize the wording of the affirmation. If any of
>you have reason to alter the wording I have chosen above, then we can bring
>the matter to a discussion and vote on it. Otherwise, let us presume that
>this wording will suffice for adoption by the guild. The absence of
>recommendations for altered wording during the next 72 hours will be viewed
>as guild approval of the above wording.
>
>Also, unless a contrary opinion is stated within the next 72 hours, the
>taking of such an oath publicly before the entire guild will henceforth be
>required for membership in RSICC. If a contrary opinion is voiced, then we
>can discuss the matter and bring it before the guild for a vote. Current
>members can be granted a space of one month in which to make such an
>affirmation before the guild.
>
>We need such a commitment -- not to the organization, but to what the
>organization is set out to accomplish; an ideal that is timeless and very
>timely. And because RSICC as an organization is focused on this cause, the
>oath of allegiance to this cause should have enough overlap with our
>organization that joining the organization should only be done with the
>most
>solemn of commitment intended, and leaving the organization should only be
>under the most extreme of circumstances.
>
>To those of you who have left, I invite you to reconsider. To those who
>are
>yet members or considering becoming such, I invite you to probe deeply and
>see if you have in your heart of hearts this solid commitment that will be
>so important in enabling us as a body to accomplish what is set before us.
>
>Sincerely, your brother in the cause of freedom,
>
>Sterling D. Allan
>
>


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While I understand where you're coming from, Sterling, it is against my personal beliefs to swear an oath to man no matter how "good" it seems at the time....
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