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Motion: Commitment to Contribute at least a Tithe of a Tithe   Message List  
Reply Message #338 of 984 |
Laura says:

> I see your point Sterling, but we are already suppose to be contributing
> as a "matter of conscience," right? If a person is "required" to pay
> (indicating that there is a penalty for non-payment) then it DOES become
> a "matter of bureaucratic enforcement," does it not? Either it is a free
> will offering or it is not. I vote for a free will offering :)

I'm not proposing that it be a matter of being "required" so much as being a
matter of committment, which is a free-will choice. I'm proposing that if a
person wishes to be a part of the guild, they need to be willing to commit
as a bare minimum to contribute either 1% of their income or 1% of their
time and talents, or a combination thereof. That is not too much to ask,
and it is not going to break anyone's bank, nor is it asking more time from
them that what is reasonable.

There are 1440 minutes in a day (cool number). 1% is 14.4 minutes each day,
or 7.2 hours per month.

What I'm proposing is that each person commit to contribute on an ongoing
basis a tithe of a tithe, either in the form of funds, or time, or talents.
15 minutes a day, or 1% of your net income, or a combination of both -- as a
bare minimum.

No one can say that is unreasonable. Most members will give far more than
this.

The reason it does not enter into a beurocratic oversight is becuase of the
way it is expected of each member. What we are asking is that each member
give their word that they will commit to this, and that they keep their
word.

What marriage would last if there were no committments? no sacrifices?

What I am proposing is that unless a person agrees to make this commitment,
they will not be able to be a member of the organization. It's not a matter
of penalty for non-payment. It's a matter of conscience -- of keeping one's
word to live up to a minimal standard to which they have agreed.

At least a tithe of a tithe, to suport the guild.

Doug has seconded this motion.

Any further comments before we bring the matter to a vote?

Sterling




Sat Jan 26, 2002 5:12 pm

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... I'm not proposing that it be a matter of being "required" so much as being a matter of committment, which is a free-will choice. I'm proposing that if a ...
Sterling D. Allan, fa...
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Jan 26, 2002
5:18 pm

I don't think your request/suggestion of a tithe of a tithe is unreasonable at all, Sterling. It's the approach that I disagree with. It's like trying to...
Laura S Shortridge
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Jan 26, 2002
6:59 pm

Again, I do not think it is a matter of legislating the issue. It's a matter of people committing to an organization and keeping their commitment. ... From:...
Sterling D. Allan, fa...
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Jan 27, 2002
8:28 am

Then why ANOTHER vote??? Love, Laura On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 01:26:22 -0700 "Sterling D. Allan, facilitator" ... ...
Laura S Shortridge
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Jan 27, 2002
8:14 pm

The vote would be for the purpose of coming to an agreement as a guild that a condition for membership would be a person's committing to give at least a tithe...
Sterling D. Allan, fa...
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Jan 27, 2002
9:07 pm

We seem to be going around in circles here. If we already voted that a condition of membership is to pay a minimum of $10 a month (or an equal amount of labor...
Laura S Shortridge
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Jan 27, 2002
10:10 pm

This motion could be all "academic." It seems that it is only three of us who cares enough to share ideas. Doug ... From: Laura S Shortridge...
Douglas Schell
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Jan 27, 2002
10:50 pm

Hi Laura, In my mind there is a very big difference between the way we currently word the contributions expectation, and how we propose to word it. Right now,...
Sterling D. Allan, fa...
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Jan 27, 2002
10:51 pm

I agree, Doug. It has been quite disconcerting that there has not been more participation in this debate. But, I trust that those who are staying quiet are...
Sterling D. Allan, fa...
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Jan 27, 2002
11:34 pm

On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:28:02 -0500 "Douglas Schell" ... Yeah, where is everyone??? I know Todd is busy caring for his wife & kids since Carrie is expecting...
Laura S Shortridge
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Jan 28, 2002
12:04 am

Thank you, Sterling, for taking the time to spell out your position like this. I now understand where you're coming from and would support your proposal. I...
Laura S Shortridge
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Jan 28, 2002
12:04 am

[sterling's reply follows] I always tend to prefer something voluntary than mandatory. Noted it is harder generally to get funds that way. I prefer freedom to...
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