Hello I am Mónica Angle of Rotarct Club of Bellavista Lima - Perù and I would
also like to know more of you and of the activities that you do in each one of
their clubs.

I have 1 year like rotaractiana and I like to belong to Rotaract, because I
learned the value of the friendship and the service.

Remember that you have a more friend ... Keep in touch

:) :)



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R.C. Bellavista
Lima - Perú
Tel. (511) 9725-3362
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Hi Ahmed

Completely agree with you regarding the English
thing!!!

But I have a feeling that some of our South American
friends may have difficulties in expressing themselves
in English

I do not see any way out of this

Arijit
--- Ahmad El Shoura <piratere@...> wrote:
> Guys,
>     Since we all know Rotaract is an International
> thing, let's keep all messages in English so others
> can understand them. I guess this is just about the
> normal.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> --Ahmad El Shoura
>
> "Be happy with what you got...
> So you can always have a hot dog!"
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Rosita
>   To: rotaractnet@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 6:27 PM
>   Subject: [rotaractnet] Hola desde el Perù
>
>
>   Hola , mi nombre es Rosita Gil Yturrioz y
> pertenesco a Rotaract Club Bellavista
>   en Lima- Perù , y me siento muy orgullosa de ser
> rotaractiana y el poder
>   comunicarme con gente que tiene los mismos anhelos
> de paz y servicio para con
>   el mundo.
>
>   Bueno he tenido lindas experiencias siendo
> rotaractiana , llegue a ser
>   presidenta de mi club y presidenta del Comite
> organizador de la Conferencia de
>   mi distrito , asi que si mi experiencia los
> pudiera ayudar en algo pues no
>   duden en escribirme.Y tengan por seguro hare lo
> mismo con ustedes si se me
>   presentaran dudas y/o sugerencias para las
> actividades que se puedan realizar
>   en mi club o en mi distrito 4450
>
>   Bueno espero tengan un lindo dìa , y si en algùn
> momento se animan a venir al
>   Perù , no duden que aca esperamos por ustedes!
>
>   un fuerte abrazo rotaractiano para todos ,
>
>
>   Rosita Gil Yturrioz
>   Lima - Perù
>
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: Rosita

To: rotaractnet@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 6:27 PM

Subject: [rotaractnet] Hola desde el Perù

Hola , mi nombre es Rosita Gil Yturrioz y pertenesco a Rotaract Club Bellavista
en Lima- Perù , y me siento muy orgullosa de ser rotaractiana y el poder
comunicarme con gente que tiene los mismos anhelos de paz y servicio para con
el mundo.

Bueno he tenido lindas experiencias siendo rotaractiana , llegue a ser
presidenta de mi club y presidenta del Comite organizador de la Conferencia de
mi distrito , asi que si mi experiencia los pudiera ayudar en algo pues no
duden en escribirme.Y tengan por seguro hare lo mismo con ustedes si se me
presentaran dudas y/o sugerencias para las actividades que se puedan realizar
en mi club o en mi distrito 4450

Bueno espero tengan un lindo dìa , y si en algùn momento se animan a venir al
Perù , no duden que aca esperamos por ustedes!

un fuerte abrazo rotaractiano para todos , 


Rosita Gil Yturrioz
Lima - Perù



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Hi

Just joined this group.

I am Rtr Arijit Mookerjee. I am a British national of
Indian origin, currently working in Muscat, Oman, in
the Middle East. I am RCT Club of Ballygunge,
Calcutta, India

Would like to know more about the folks here, who I
presume would all be current or ex-rotaractors?

Hope to hear from some people soon

Arijit


--- Rosita <rosita12@...> wrote:
> Hola , mi nombre es Rosita Gil Yturrioz y pertenesco
> a Rotaract Club Bellavista
> en Lima- Perù , y me siento muy orgullosa de ser
> rotaractiana y el poder
> comunicarme con gente que tiene los mismos anhelos
> de paz y servicio para con
> el mundo.
>
> Bueno he tenido lindas experiencias siendo
> rotaractiana , llegue a ser
> presidenta de mi club y presidenta del Comite
> organizador de la Conferencia de
> mi distrito , asi que si mi experiencia los pudiera
> ayudar en algo pues no
> duden en escribirme.Y tengan por seguro hare lo
> mismo con ustedes si se me
> presentaran dudas y/o sugerencias para las
> actividades que se puedan realizar
> en mi club o en mi distrito 4450
>
> Bueno espero tengan un lindo dìa , y si en algùn
> momento se animan a venir al
> Perù , no duden que aca esperamos por ustedes!
>
> un fuerte abrazo rotaractiano para todos ,
>
>
> Rosita Gil Yturrioz
> Lima - Perù
>
>
>
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Hola , mi nombre es Rosita Gil Yturrioz y pertenesco a Rotaract Club Bellavista
en Lima- Perù , y me siento muy orgullosa de ser rotaractiana y el poder
comunicarme con gente que tiene los mismos anhelos de paz y servicio para con
el mundo.

Bueno he tenido lindas experiencias siendo rotaractiana , llegue a ser
presidenta de mi club y presidenta del Comite organizador de la Conferencia de
mi distrito , asi que si mi experiencia los pudiera ayudar en algo pues no
duden en escribirme.Y tengan por seguro hare lo mismo con ustedes si se me
presentaran dudas y/o sugerencias para las actividades que se puedan realizar
en mi club o en mi distrito 4450

Bueno espero tengan un lindo dìa , y si en algùn momento se animan a venir al
Perù , no duden que aca esperamos por ustedes!

un fuerte abrazo rotaractiano para todos ,


Rosita Gil Yturrioz
Lima - Perù



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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Lewis [mailto:lewisch@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 10:59 PM
To: rotaractnet@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [rotaractnet] Romanian World Service Project

The Grand Rapids Rootaract club in partnership with the Grand Rapids
Sunrise Rotary club and a number of other Rotary Clubs
within Rotary District 6290 have embarked on an exciting international
project to develop a Life Skills/Vocational Center for orphans in
Romania.  Please read the attached brochure or visit the Grand Rapids
Sunrise website at: http://www.rotarydistrict6290.org/grrsunrise/

We encourage you to share this with your members and if you are looking
for a wonderful service opportunity, please contact Ron Windemuller at
rwindy3@... or me at lewisch@....


In Service!

Chris Lewis
District 6290 Rotaract Chairman



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The Grand Rapids Rootaract club in partnership with the Grand Rapids
Sunrise Rotary club and a number of other Rotary Clubs
within Rotary District 6290 have embarked on an exciting international
project to develop a Life Skills/Vocational Center for orphans in
Romania.  Please read the attached brochure or visit the Grand Rapids
Sunrise website at: http://www.rotarydistrict6290.org/grrsunrise/

We encourage you to share this with your members and if you are looking
for a wonderful service opportunity, please contact Ron Windemuller at
rwindy3@... or me at lewisch@....


In Service!

Chris Lewis
District 6290 Rotaract Chairman

***************** versión en español *************************


Hola a todos los amigos rotaractianos del mundo!! soy Carmen Gil
Erazo, del Club Rotaract Escazú, Costa Rica, Distrito 4240. Espero
por este medio poder compartir con ustedes actividades, inquietudes,
entre muchas otras cosas que podemos intercambiar...estoy dentro del
equipo de la Representación Distrital (Tesorera) del período que
está por iniciar y me gustaría tener contacto con otras
Representaciones Distritales de Latinoamerica y porque no del resto
del mundo. Cualquier cosa mi correo es:

carmengerazo@...

saludos, rotaractianamente

Carmen Gil Erazo
Tesorera
Representación Distrital Rotaract
Distrito 4240
Período 2003-2004

     ******************** version française *********************

Salut a tout les amis rotaracts du monde! Je suis Carmen Gil Erazo
du Club Rotaract Escazú, du Costa Rica, Distrit 4240. J éspere qu'on
peut se communiquer grâce a cette tecnologie et on pourra échanger
information sur les divers activités qu'on developpe, des nouvelles,
des inquietudes et beaucoup d'autres choses qu'on peut echanger...
je suis membre de l'équipe de la Representation Distrital Rotaract
(Trésorière) pour le period qui va commencer et je voudrait avoir
contact avec d'autres Representations Distritales de L'Amerique
Latine et pourquoi pas du rest du monde. Vous pouver me contacter à:

carmengerazo@...

Rotaractienement (je èspere qu'on dit comme ça!)

Carmen Gil Erazo
Trésorière
Representation Distrital Rotaract
Distrit 4240
Period 2003-2004

   *****************  english version ****************

Hi to rotaractors in all the world! I'm Carmen Gil Erazo from
Rotaract Club of Escazú, Costa Rica, District 4240. I hope that we
could exchange all kind of information as activities, news and
others things...I'm a member of the District Rotaract Representation
(Treasurer)for the next period and I would like to have contact with
others District Representations in Latin America and why not the
rest of the world. This is my e-mail:

carmengerazo@...

Yours in Rotaract,

Carmen Gil Erazo
Tresurer
District 4240
Period 2003-2004

Dear Rotaractors, ex-Rotaractors, and Rotarians,

I have been promising to fill everyone in about what I have discovered and
reached agreement with RI regarding rotaract.org. So here it is!

The list of people I am sending this to has grown considerably since the RI
Convention, as I have found numerous Rotarians who have given us their support
and would like to be kept up to date with the developments about rotaract.org.
These developments have far-ranging impact, as other Rotary sites that have a
similar nature to some of the services previously offered by rotaract.org will
also be affected.

My sincere apologies to anyone who receives several copies of this, but I want
this information to get out to as many people as possible (please Rotaractors,
forward this on!).

To avoid any more cross-posts, I have set up a new egroup purely to discuss
rotaract.org, as I know not all Rotaractors feel this issue affects them. So
all future discussion / information will be sent to the "rotaractdotorg"
egroup: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rotaractdotorg/

BACKGROUND
[From my perspective - if any rotaract.org webmasters would like to add or
amend anything, please do!]

The Global Rotaract Information Centre was set up around 8 years ago, and in
addition to being an information resource for all Rotaractors, offered
rotaract.org email addresses and URLs (both redirects).

RI has a policy of reclaiming any Rotary-related domains that are of a
"global" nature, ie those that are not qualified by the club or district name.
rotaract.org was one such domain that RI took control of (the domain only, not
the site itself). RI University is another.

Most Rotaractors would have been blissfully unaware of this change, until RI
turned the domain off on April 22nd this year. They informed the webmasters of
this 2 days later. The rest of us either discovered the loss the hard way, or
in some cases received an email from the webmasters of rotaract.org in early
May.

The reason for the loss of the site eventually received from RI was that on at
least one occasion (they have hinted that there were more), a non-Rotaractor
signed up for a rotaract.org email address, and used it for a fraudulent
purpose. The company at the receiving end of the fraud contacted RI, as the
owners of the domain, to try to track down this person. RI consequently shut
down the ENTIRE site so that such activities could not happen again.

[Note: by RI I am referring to the administrative staff in Evanston]

The consequences of this have been enormous: in addition to Rotaract's main
communication network disappearing, much time and money has been lost in the
promotion of rotaract.org addresses. It has also had an adverse affect on the
number of Rotaractors intending to join Rotary in the future, to name just a
few things.

Discussions with some of these administrative staff at RI reveals that they
had been in consultation with the webmasters of rotaract.org for quite some
time prior to this to endeavour to set up a "legal entity" so that if such a
situation as what did happen arose, this other entity would be responsible,
not RI. I gather a fair amount of work was done by the webmasters towards
this, but it was never finished. RI claim the webmasters stopped responding to
discussions about this 6 or so months ago.

In short, the situation appears to have arisen out of a lack of communication
and understanding. It is unfortunate that so many of us have suffered as a
result.

WHAT NOW?

During the Brisbane Convention, I met with Ed Futa, backed up by a past RI
Director (my dad!) and a member of the RI Technology Committee. We explained
that while we understood their reasoning for shutting down rotaract.org, the
way it was done was not acceptable, and in the interest of Rotary-Rotaract
relations, something needed to be done other than just telling us "we have
made a decision, live with it."

** Ed gave me verbal agreement that the URL redirects could be reinstated for
a short period (say 2 weeks) with a message to update you bookmarks as the
address would be changing. I have not yet discussed this with the CIO yet to
see if he agrees too. Do any of you think there would be merit in this?

(The old redirects still exist, but now with the address
www.rotaract-club.com)

** Ed appointed me the chair of a new committee reponsible for rotaract.org.
This committee will be representative of Rotaract worldwide, and will work
with the administrative staff at RI to set up a legal entity and work out a
licensing agreement in order for them to let us use rotaract.org again. This
includes a complete rewrite of the site and its content which RI wishes to
approve.

(Anyone with a programming background who is interested in taking an
administrative role in the website, please contact me! The new redevelopment
at rotaract.org.au looks like it will make an excellent blueprint for what is
required for rotaract.org and I urge everyone to check it out!)

I then met with Alan Jarvis (the Chief Information Officer) and Djenne Clayton
(legal) to discuss how to go from here. The outcomes of that meeting were:

** The formation of a legal entity and forming a subsequent licensing
agreement are the main priorities. I will liaise with Djenne further to sort
this out.

** Email redirection is something they are not likely to allow under the
licensing agreement. This is very, very sad. It looks like if anyone wants a
rotaract email address, it will be need to be done at a lower level (eg by
country, district, or club). Does anyone want me to continue to fight for it?
If rotarymail.net is allowed to continue as is while rotaract.org's email
cannot, I will certainly jump up and down a bit more.

** URL redirection is something that can be reinstated, but they advised
against for the exact reason I have been jumping up and down at them - if the
domain goes down, everything goes down. If URL redirects are used, they prefer
subdomains (clubname.rotaract.org) instead of the previous set up of
subdirectories (rotaract.org/clubname). There appears to be leeway there. What
do you think about this?

** Regarding the look and feel, RI wants a say in this, since they own the
Rotaract mark. They have requested it resemble rotary.org (*shudder*). I am
hoping they only mean in terms of look, because I personally think rotary.org
is a shocking site.

** RI want to approve the sitemap before the domain name is reinstated. It
does not appear that they are too worried about the content itself, only that
it remains up to date, is available in numerous languages (volunteers to
translate, please contact me!!), and is not dependent on a couple of people.

At the Rotaract Pre-Convention, a website committee was formed which has
already started thinking about content. I certainly encourage discussion about
this on the rotaractdotorg egroup.

Yours in service,
DRR Simone Collins
Rotaract Club of South Perth
District 9470
Western Australia

Hi everyone,

I thought I would elaborate on Marcus's earlier question regarding
rules for this list.

I have changed the description on the home page of this egroup to
reflect that it is fine for people to post in languages other than
english.

I have also mentioned that both joining and posting is unmoderated -
I want communication to be as free as possible.

Having said that, if someone abuses this group such as repeatedly
being offensive to other members of this group, or if someone spams
the group, and does not stop after being asked to, I feel that person
should be banned, rather than introducing moderation. Are you all
comfortable with that?

If you haven't checked out the "Links" section of the egroup home
page already (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rotaractnet/links) please
do, and be sure to add in links to you club, district, MDIO etc if it
is not there. I am slowly adding some more links there everyday.

Incidentally, I'm not sure if you are all aware that while the old
rotaract.org URL redirects do not work, if you change it to rotaract-
club.com/ the redirects DO still exist? Make sure you put a slash
after your club or district though, eg www.rotaract-
club.com/southperth/

Keep up the great information exchange!

YIR,
Simone

Hi everyone,

I only returned home to Perth late last night, and am now wading
through the 500+ emails on the 2 accounts I have checked so far
(still have others I haven't looked at yet)...

I will post you the info I have gathered about rotaract.org shortly,
but I want to clarify a couple of things via email with the CIO at RI
first just to make sure I have everything correct and in writing.

I will send a run down of the events when I get home from work
tonight so that I can send the one email to as many Rotaractors / key
Rotarians as possible. I gathered a lot of support from ROTI
(Rotarians on the Internet) and the RI IT Committee, as well as some
past RI Directors, who would all like to be kept informed of what is
happening. Now I need to sort through all the business cards I
collected during the Convention :)

Simone

Dear Rotaractors around the world.....!!!

Thanx to SIMONE, we are all able to communicate

and express our views thru this wonderful e-group THE "ROTARACTNET"

So lets make the best of this group and ineract with different Rotaractors from

different parts of the world.

Regards,

Rtr.PARAG MAKHECHA

CHAIRMAN IDR&EP, RI.DIST.3200

INDIA

--------- Original Message ---------

DATE: 4 Jun 2003 02:47:16 -0000

From: "Simone Collins" <organist@...>

To: rotaractnet@yahoogroups.com

Cc:

> I wish to express that a list that wants to grow worldwide must tolerate
> in their messages all the languages of the world. The other world list,
> managed by Rotaract Deutschland passes messages in different languages
> but the members of the list are very intolerant when that language is
> not English.

Sure... there is no language restriction on this list. I'm not sure why you
felt there was a restriction?

Please do invite as many people as possible to this list. I am still at the
Brisbane Convention, and have been making headway in regards to rotaract.org
...! I have a lot of information about it that I want to send out to as many
people as possible once I return home and have my full address book handy.

YIR,
Simone


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----- Original Message -----

From: Simone Collins

To: rotaractnet@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 12:47 PM

Subject: Re: [rotaractnet] Hi, some questions...

> I wish to express that a list that wants to grow worldwide must tolerate
> in their messages all the languages of the world. The other world list,
> managed by Rotaract Deutschland passes messages in different languages
> but the members of the list are very intolerant when that language is
> not English.

Sure... there is no language restriction on this list. I'm not sure why you
felt there was a restriction?

Please do invite as many people as possible to this list. I am still at the
Brisbane Convention, and have been making headway in regards to rotaract.org
...! I have a lot of information about it that I want to send out to as many
people as possible once I return home and have my full address book handy.

YIR,
Simone

> I wish to express that a list that wants to grow worldwide must tolerate
> in their messages all the languages of the world. The other world list,
> managed by Rotaract Deutschland passes messages in different languages
> but the members of the list are very intolerant when that language is
> not English.

Sure... there is no language restriction on this list. I'm not sure why you
felt there was a restriction?

Please do invite as many people as possible to this list. I am still at the
Brisbane Convention, and have been making headway in regards to rotaract.org
...! I have a lot of information about it that I want to send out to as many
people as possible once I return home and have my full address book handy.

YIR,
Simone

From: Flavio Morato Galvão (Yar Surus)

To: rotaractnet@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:16 PM

Subject: Re: [rotaractnet] Vector logos

Try www.omirbrasil.org.br

 

There you'll find several logos in vector formats... and in RI site, those EPS files are also vectorized...

 

C-ya

Flavio

----- Original Message -----

From: Marcos Raúl Carot

To: rotaractnet@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 10:11 AM

Subject: [rotaractnet] Vector logos

Hi!!!

My club designed the vector logos and are available for download (in
Corel Dra. 8 format) at www.rotaractparana.org.ar -> Archivos

All of course as defined in Rotaract handbook.

Marcos

----- Original Message -----

From: Marcos Raúl Carot

To: rotaractnet@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 10:11 AM

Subject: [rotaractnet] Vector logos

Hi!!!

My club designed the vector logos and are available for download (in
Corel Dra. 8 format) at www.rotaractparana.org.ar -> Archivos

All of course as defined in Rotaract handbook.

Marcos



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Hi!!!

My club designed the vector logos and are available for download (in
Corel Dra. 8 format) at www.rotaractparana.org.ar -> Archivos

All of course as defined in Rotaract handbook.

Marcos

----- Original Message -----

From: Simone Collins

To: rotaractnet@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:45 PM

Subject: [rotaractnet] Hello!

Hi everyone!

DRR Simone Collins from the Rotaract Club of South Perth, District
9470, Western Australia here. I think most of you know who I am now
after seeing the emails I have sent to RI about rotaract.org!

It's great to see that already we a variety of Rotaractors from a
variety of countries in this group. Admittedly most are Aussies,
since they are the main people I had non-rotaract.org addresses for,
but I really hope to see this group expand more in the coming weeks.

Shaun - I'm glad I finally know who made the logo!! David Koch sent
it to all last year's DRRs, and all I knew was someone in the Cairns
club made it ;) I have started putting together a new Rotaract
graphics library, and where possible I am providing details of the
source of the logos. Is it ok if I include that logo there? The
Graphic Library is still in development - I started building it
before the rotaract.org issue took over my time. Only a couple of
pages work fully at this stage, but if anyone is interested in taking
a look and giving me feedback on whether you think this is a useful
resource, please let me know.

I look forward to meeting some of you at the Rotaract Preconvention
in a couple of days time... and I look forward to continuing to
communicate with the rest of you when I return home in a week and a
half.

:)
Simone

----- Original Message -----

From: Simone Collins

To: irotaract@yahoogroups.com ; rotaractwa@yahoogroups.com ; aussie-rotaractors@yahoogroups.com ; rotaractaustralia@yahoogroups.com

Cc: kencollins@...

Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 12:01 AM

Subject: [iRotaract] FW: rotaract.org

Hi everyone,

Apologies for cross-posts, but this information is important.

I have confirmed with RI that THEY WILL NOT REINSTATE rotaract.org REDIRECTS
AGAIN.

I cannot believe that we cannot use a url like "www.rotaract.org/d9470" but
it is ok for us to PAY to use something like "www.rotaract9470.org"!!!

I am very, very disappointed with Rotary International. The disregard they
show for their partners in service is shocking.

Yours in service,

DRR Simone Collins


-----Original Message-----
From: Christine Wellner [mailto:wellnerc@...]
Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2003 6:14 AM
To: Simone Collins
Cc: Barry J. McConville
Subject: re: rotaract.org


Dear District Rotaract Representative Collins:

On behalf of Rotary International General Secretary Ed Futa, I provide a
response to your email of 5 May.  If you have any questions, please do not
hesitate to contact me.

Regards,

Christine Wellner

_____________________________
Christine Michonski Wellner
Supervisor, Community Programs
Rotary International
One Rotary Center
1560 Sherman Avenue
Evanston, IL 60201 USA
T: 847.866.3404
F: 847.866.6116
E: wellnerc@...
www.rotary.org

**********
      May 2003

      Dear District Rotaract Representative Collins:

      Thank you for your email inquiry about the status of www.rotaract.org. This
web site has been maintained by Rotaract and Rotarian volunteers to create a
centralized online resource for Rotaract clubs worldwide.

      Recently, potentially fraudulent activity was conducted by someone using an
"@rotaract.org" email address.  This situation was brought to the attention
of Rotary International, as owners of the www.rotaract.org domain name, and
required the temporary disabling of the site.  I am currently working with
the volunteers who maintain the site to ensure proper licensing and policy
compliance before reactivating the site.  In the meantime, entering
www.rotaract.org into a Web browser will direct users to the Rotaract
section of the RI Web site at www.rotaract.org.  This site has undergone
many recent improvements and includes an extensive variety of resources for
Rotaract clubs, including the Online Publications Catalog, club Web site
registry, searchable project databases, quarterly editions of Rotaract News,
documents for download, and enhanced Language Communities.

      When www.rotaract.org was established several years ago, the Internet was
still a new frontier with very few rules governing its use.  However, as the
Internet has become more accessible, many local governments have developed
regulations to help protect Internet users.  As the owner of
www.rotaract.org RI has a responsibility to ensure that the services offered
in conjunction with the domain name adhere to these burgeoning international
laws and policies.  RI also has a responsibility to protect and monitor the
use of its trademarks in order to minimize the organization's liability
should a claim or lawsuit arise.  The name Rotaract appearing in an email
address or URL without further qualifiers specifying the Rotaract club,
district, or approved multidistrict entity responsible for the user is
disallowed according to Board policy.  Accordingly, the email redirection
and Web site sub-domaining services that were offered on www.rotaract.org
place RI in a precarious legal position which could expose Rotarians and
ultimately Rotaractors to unforeseen costs.  Therefore, the email
redirection and Web site sub-domaining services will no longer be available
when the site is reactivated.

      Please update any materials created by your club to feature actual email
addresses and web sites that properly identify your club, district, or
multidistrict entity in the domains.  We also encourage you to register your
site on the RI Web site at:  www.rotary.org/membership/websites/index.html.
Additionally, if your incoming Rotaract club officer has already submitted,
or has yet to submit, his or her contact information for inclusion in the
2003-04 Worldwide Rotaract Directory, please provide any corrections and
information as soon as possible by email:  data@... or fax:
1-847-328-8554.

      Thank you for your patience and understanding as we work to strengthen the
presence of Rotaract clubs on the Internet.

      Regards,

      Edwin H. Futa
      General Secretary
      Rotary International


----- Original Message -----
From: "Simone Collins" <scollins@...>
To: <futae@...>
Cc: <ptrbb@...>; <kencollins@...>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:43 PM
Subject: rotaract.org


> Dear Mr Futa,
>
> I am writing to express my outrage at the disappearance of rotaract.org
> which I believe is a result of a decision made by Rotary International. No
> warning or notification was given. I discovered by luck that my URLs no
> longer worked, and found the rotaract.org website had been taken down, and
> after much questioning eventually found out what happened.
>
> I cannot believe that the actions of one Rotaractor has resulted in ALL
> Rotaractors worldwide being penalised. The loss of rotaract.org has meant
> all the advertising I have done for my club, district, and major projects
is
> all for nought. This has cost both my club, my district, and me
personally,
> hundreds if not thousands of dollars in wasted advertising. This does not
> include the hundreds of hours spent on promoting Rotaract. I doubt my club
> and district is the only one that will suffer in this way.
>
> Rotaractors worldwide have been using rotaract.org email and web addresses
> to present a professional, unified presence. The majority of clubs with an
> internet presence used a rotaract.org url to promote their website. In
> Australia, DRRs  have strongly promoted the use of rotaract.org email and
> web addresses.
>
> Perhaps Rotary International was not aware of the ramifications of this
> decision, as there is no Rotary equivalent of rotaract.org. Rotaract.org
was
> not just an informative website, but the hub of Rotaract's web presence.
> Could you imagine the outcry if all Rotary clubs lost their websites and
> email without any notice or explanation?
>
> The decision to shut down rotaract.org without any warning means I
> personally have had to throw out hundreds of now-useless business cards,
> which I had planned to hand out an interest meeting for a new Rotaract
club
> yesterday and at the Rotaract Preconvention. My district had also recently
> purchased 500 stickers which advertised my district email and web
> addresses - they are all useless now as well. The cost to replace the
> business cards alone will be a personal expense of around $250.
>
> All clubs in my distrct have mainly relied on sourcing new members through
> the internet, via our websites and a series of advertisements on volunteer
> sites, as it has proven to be the most effective method.  Prior to the
> removal of rotaract.org, I received around one enquiry a day about joining
> Rotaract, plus the websites generated a lot of media interest, including
> Discovery Channel wanting to do a story about one of our projects.
>
> My club's website currently ranks number 1 in Google for most relevant
> searches. It has taken hundreds of hours of work to achieve that - and now
> all that work has gone to waste. Next time Google reindexes, all my sites
> will disappear. As it is, if anyone clicks on the results returned by
> Google, they will receive a "This page not found" error.  I have no idea
how
> many prospective members may have tried to contact me about the clubs in
my
> district, who will never hear back from me.
>
> With the interest meeting yesterday, which only ended up having 3
> prospective members attend, the disappearance of rotaract.org could not
have
> come at a worse time.
>
> Rotaract has been struggling in Western Australia, primarily through a
lack
> of support from Rotary. The loss of rotaract.org may be the final nail in
> the coffin.
>
> I cannot begin to tell you how disenfranchised I was when I learnt that
this
> huge waste of time and money has been caused by Rotary International. Not
> only do we need to replace all our advertising materials, and start from
> scratch in promoting our clubs and major projects, we will have to
purchase
> our own domains. I don't think my district will recover from such a huge
> blow. We cannot afford to replace our advertising materials yet again.
>
> I urge Rotary International to reconsider the decision to remove
> rotaract.org, and reinstate the site and its services ASAP.
> Today's Rotaractors are tomorrow's Rotarians, but if they continue to
suffer
> extremely poor support from Rotary, the rate of Rotaractors deciding they
> never want to have anything to do with Rotary again will only increase.
>
> Yours in service,
> DRR Simone Collins
> District 9470
> Western Australia









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Hi!

I'm Marcos Carot, Rotaract Club de Paraná, District 4960, Argentina
(www.rotaractparana.org.ar)

I know that this mailing list was created someway as a response to the
shut down of Rotaract.org

Obviously, there are not rules for this list yet, especially regarding
allowed languages.

I wish to express that a list that wants to grow worldwide must tolerate
in their messages all the languages of the world. The other world list,
managed by Rotaract Deutschland passes messages in different languages
but the members of the list are very intolerant when that language is
not English.

I will strongly support this list redistributing invitations to join
worldwide (I reach about 10 thousands rotaractors of the world) only if
all the current members share that language freedom is a must if we are
talking about a worldwide and "tolerant" organization as Rotaract, and
then expressing this freedom of languages in the web of the group, as a
rule of it.

If you think that this argument is not good, then I think this is a
parallel list to the existing world list, so it has no reason to be.

To those who don't know, to subscribe to the world list you have to send
a mail to Majordomo@... and in the body of the message write:
subscribe list-world

Thank you!

In other news...

Visit the reaction of Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay to the shut down
of Rotaract.org: www.rotaract.org.ar -It is under construction-

Marcos Carot

Hi All,

My name is Gadsya ...

I'm from Jakarta and member of Rotaract Club semanggi jakarta and right now
I'm a Director of Club service period 2003 - 2004.

I also incharge as a mailing list moderator for
Rotaract_semanggi@yahoogroups.com.

Well, nice to join you all.......



Cheers,


Gadsya

EXECUTRAIN OF JAKARTA
SetiaBudi 2 Building, 6th Floor Suite 606
Jl. H.R Rasuna Said Kav. 62 - Jakarta 12920, INDONESIA
Phone  : (62-21)521-0793
Fax       : (62-21)521-0794
Email    : gadsya@...
Website : www.executrain.com

Hi everyone!

DRR Simone Collins from the Rotaract Club of South Perth, District
9470, Western Australia here. I think most of you know who I am now
after seeing the emails I have sent to RI about rotaract.org!

It's great to see that already we a variety of Rotaractors from a
variety of countries in this group. Admittedly most are Aussies,
since they are the main people I had non-rotaract.org addresses for,
but I really hope to see this group expand more in the coming weeks.

Shaun - I'm glad I finally know who made the logo!! David Koch sent
it to all last year's DRRs, and all I knew was someone in the Cairns
club made it ;) I have started putting together a new Rotaract
graphics library, and where possible I am providing details of the
source of the logos. Is it ok if I include that logo there? The
Graphic Library is still in development - I started building it
before the rotaract.org issue took over my time. Only a couple of
pages work fully at this stage, but if anyone is interested in taking
a look and giving me feedback on whether you think this is a useful
resource, please let me know.

I look forward to meeting some of you at the Rotaract Preconvention
in a couple of days time... and I look forward to continuing to
communicate with the rest of you when I return home in a week and a
half.

:)
Simone

Hello Group Members,

              Lets begin a new year in Rotaract with a little sunshine
and a little rain to create a beautiful Rainbow. Rotaract Club Of New
Bombay(RCNB), Dist 3140, invites you to jointly be a part of its
first bulletin for the year 2003-2004, called RAINBOW.

              Rainbow will be a bulletin published by RCNB , and
articles will be contributed by exactly 7 clubs all over the world.
This could be the best way to start our new year in Rotaract and to
know each other better. Each club will be contributing articles for
the bulletin as stated below:
1.Presidents Message.
2.Editors Message.
3.List of best projects of 2002-2003 and their details in brief.
4.Other miscellaneous articles contributed by members of the club.


                It would be a great honor for RCNB if your club wishes
to contribute for the Rainbow. The last date for receiving the
articles will be 5th July , 2003. Kindly reply back and confirm your
participation. Your contribution will be highly appreciated.

               Thanking You, and hoping for another good year in
Rotaract with your friendship and co-operation.



Yours In Rotaract,

Rtr. Mrunal Shah                   Shayonee Sengupta
     (President)                         (Editor)

its great to be a part of this group. I invite you to visit our club
website at www.rcnb.cjb.net.

Keep posting , and lets be in touch.

Regards,

Mrunal Shah
RCBN, 3140, India