FAIREYS DON'T REALLY EXIST!!!!!

     (FX: Gritting teeth)
     I..must..not..answer...!

Anyway, back to the real world. Ruislip Operatic Society are performing
"Sweet Charity" from 29th Sept to 3rd Oct (next Week) and if any of you happen
to be in the area we would love to see you at the show. You all know most of the
cast, so it would be a great opportunity for a mini Ripon reunion. Any Riponite
who attends will be entitled to a free drink at the bar after the show!
     (...the things I do for my society...!).

     David,

     I hope the show goes well - sorry I shan't be coming down to see it (I've
got a good excuse, not just the distance, really!)

This is completely off topic, but I thought that some might be interested.

Dixons groups stores are currently giving away CDs for an ISP called FreeServe. 
That ISP promises free access to the internet, with no subscription or online
charges save for the cost of a local phone call.

Well, I'm using that service right now and much to my surprise it is very good. 
I get a far faster connection than I have ever managed with mt previous,
paid-for ISP.  How good the service will be when the world and his spouse is
signed up I don't know, but for now it's excellent.

However, if you're the sort of user that is frequently on the phone to the tech
help people at your ISP, this is not  for you - tech support is on a phone line
that costs £1 per minute!

regards,
//alan

PS there was an article in yesterday's Grauniad about how the ISP is financed -
basically they've cut a deal with the telephone operator, who gives them some
share of the local call costs.

Hello folks!  You may not remember me, but I was one of the huge contingent from
Ruislip at Ripon'98. I was a first timer this year and the whole thing was a
great experience, and well worth while. Working with Ray was a bit of a shock to
the system, but I don't think he was quite as scary as I had been lead to
believe. He's just a big old softy really!

Anyway, back to the real world. Ruislip Operatic Society are performing "Sweet
Charity" from 29th Sept to 3rd Oct (next Week) and if any of you happen to be in
the area we would love to see you at the show. You all know most of the cast, so
it would be a great opportunity for a mini Ripon reunion. Any Riponite who
attends will be entitled to a free drink at the bar after the show!
(...the things I do for my society...!).

Ticket details available on request. contact me via the mailing list.


Regards
              David Hampton.


P.S. I have enjoyed reading all the G & S stuff, but I haven't got the foggiest
idea what you're on about, and you are obviously all quite insane!

FAIREYS DON'T REALLY EXIST!!!!!

At Darlington our lighting guys (and girls) seem pretty good on the
whole (but we do get one tech run and one dress rehearsal in the
theatre). But there have been a few blind spots (no pun intended) in a
couple of productions I've been in, where there's something that's still
not right by the end of a fortnight's run.

In 42nd Street, there's a song (There's a sunny side to every situation)
where people are grouped together in different 'dressing rooms' and as
each group sings a line or two, the lights should come on over that
group, then go off as the next group or individual sing, and then
everyone would be lit for the bits that were sung by everyone (and so
on). When we did it, virtually every night some poor soul would be
plunged into darkness as they got to their moment of glory when they
sang their solo line! We were just about there by the second Saturday.

And in 'Me and My Girl' at the beginning of the final scene, the lights
were supposed to come up on the hunt ball as the cast were in the middle
of a lively dance. On several occasions the lights came up too soon,
catching everyone standing around just getting ready to fling themselves
into the 'middle' of the dance (and if we'd started early we'd have run
out of dance routine - I think this perhaps was a bit a production
fault), and other occasions we'd almost finished the dance completely
before the lights came on. The problem was also compounded by the fact
that most of the cast didn't seem to be able to recognise the musical
cue for starting to dance and relied on the lights coming up for the cue
- which was a big mistake - and caused chaos on several nights!

I certainly think we're very lucky at Ripon to have the quality of
lighting we get there - it makes all the difference when scenery is so
minimal. I've found it quite an eye-opener, particularly watching Ray
plot the lighting (something we never get to see at our society, if
you're in the cast).

Amanda
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Don't get me wrong - it wasn't a criticism, just a comment. I'm enjoying
the debate on the finer points of fairy law. And there seems to be
plenty of people with an interest in and knowledge of G&S stuff.

The only thing that's worrying me about the Desert Song at the moment is
how do you get a random (and rather small) bunch of men who are mainly
over 55 (with a couple under 18) to march and look convincingly like
they could be soldiers of the French foreign legion? Or even how you get
them to turn up to rehearsals?

And apparently we're not having a donkey this time (it proved a bit
messy last time Darlington did the show, since the donkey kept getting
stage fright - I feel sorry for the orchestra then, since there's quite
a severe rake on the Civic Theatre stage!).

Amanda
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Last night my society had the dress rehearsal for our Music Hall production
which opens tonight.  It's a low budget production (intended as a fund raiser
for future shows) but I think that it's a good, slick show. We are very
fortunate in that a wonderful 72 year-old director/choreographer came out of
retirement to help us out in a financial crisis - he was a professional dancer
in the original West End production of 'West Side Story' (and I think he still
remembers every step!).  Because of the financial restrictions, we did not get
into the theatre until yesterday, so last night was our only run-through.  The
company did incredibly well on an unfamiliar stage and with several costume
changes.  The band (myself on piano, plus bass and drums) were superb (of
course!).  The small amount of scenery changing was handled efficiently.  But
what let the whole thing down was the lighting which was all over the place -
lots of funny colours and choruses suddenly being plunged into darkness in the
middle of dance sequences.   This always happens at my Society and it is so
frustrating.  They keep assuring me that 'it'll be alright on the night' but I
would rather that they had been able to demonstrate this to me yesterday (as for
the first time in living memory, I have managed to sell some tickets at work,
and they are coming tonight).

What I'm wondering is whether this sort of thing happens anywhere else, or
whether my society is the only one which is afflicted with incompetent lighting
people who never seem to get to know the show until about half way through the
run.
Rachel

I do.  I keep them under my jacket, and only bring them out at parties.

Sorry about the G&S content - what else does anyone have to talk about.
Surely there's some inconsistencies in the "Desert Song".

Ask Christine how much it is for French.  She won't tell me.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rachel Keegan <keeganr@...>
To: ross-d@onelist.com <ross-d@onelist.com>
Date: 21 September 1998 12:15
Subject: [ross-d] Re: Iolanthe/fairy law


>From: "Rachel Keegan" <keeganr@...>
>
>I don't think that Strephon would acquire wings at the end of the opera -
he
>would have had them all along (although it's a moot point whether he would
>have one or two).  I suppose he keeps them hidden underneath his jacket to
>avoid embarassment.
>Rachel
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Amanda Blane <amandablane@...>
>To: ross-d@onelist.com <ross-d@onelist.com>
>Date: Monday, September 21, 1998 08:40
>Subject: [ross-d] Re: Iolanthe/fairy law
>
>
>>From: Amanda Blane <amandablane@...>
>>
>>My mum, who is also rehearsing for a production of Iolanthe at the
>>moment, came up with a point that has been puzzling her. Since various
>>male members of the cast sprout wings at the end, having been turned
>>into fairies, shouldn't Strephon get have wings as well? Especially
>>since it's his top half that's a fairy. Or her other suggestion was,
>>that he should have just one wing (rather than a full pair) since he's
>>only half a fairy. I suppose that would have inherent difficulties in
>>that if he actually tried to fly, he'd just go round in circles.
>>
>>Amanda
>>PS Should we rename this the G&S discussion group?
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I don't think that Strephon would acquire wings at the end of the opera - he
would have had them all along (although it's a moot point whether he would
have one or two).  I suppose he keeps them hidden underneath his jacket to
avoid embarassment.
Rachel
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From: Amanda Blane <amandablane@...>
To: ross-d@onelist.com <ross-d@onelist.com>
Date: Monday, September 21, 1998 08:40
Subject: [ross-d] Re: Iolanthe/fairy law


>From: Amanda Blane <amandablane@...>
>
>My mum, who is also rehearsing for a production of Iolanthe at the
>moment, came up with a point that has been puzzling her. Since various
>male members of the cast sprout wings at the end, having been turned
>into fairies, shouldn't Strephon get have wings as well? Especially
>since it's his top half that's a fairy. Or her other suggestion was,
>that he should have just one wing (rather than a full pair) since he's
>only half a fairy. I suppose that would have inherent difficulties in
>that if he actually tried to fly, he'd just go round in circles.
>
>Amanda
>PS Should we rename this the G&S discussion group?
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>he'd just go round in circles.

Hey!  I know some managers just like that...!

regards,
//alan

My mum, who is also rehearsing for a production of Iolanthe at the
moment, came up with a point that has been puzzling her. Since various
male members of the cast sprout wings at the end, having been turned
into fairies, shouldn't Strephon get have wings as well? Especially
since it's his top half that's a fairy. Or her other suggestion was,
that he should have just one wing (rather than a full pair) since he's
only half a fairy. I suppose that would have inherent difficulties in
that if he actually tried to fly, he'd just go round in circles.

Amanda
PS Should we rename this the G&S discussion group?
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Bryan
Since you seem to be so interested in the finer points of the plot of
Iolanthe, I assume that you have looked at the Iolanthe section of the G&S
archive which contains, among other things, a very scholarly article
entitled "Fairy Law" which deals at great length with the question of
whether the fairies have broken their newly amended law at the end of the
opera since Private Willis and the peers have just been converted into
fairies.
Rachel
-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Hallett <hallettb@...>
To: ross-d@onelist.com <ross-d@onelist.com>
Date: Saturday, September 19, 1998 10:28
Subject: [ross-d] Re: Hail Poetry


>From: "Bryan Hallett" <hallettb@...>
>
>So five and twenty is the most attractive age for a man to be ?  Tell that
>to Sean Connery fans !
>
>If Gilbert had any thought for the amateur stage, he should have made
>Strephon 40 at least, not given him any songs, and let Iolanthe do all the
>singing.   He should then have done away with the peers, and given their
>songs to the female, non 17 year olds.  That way, we might have been able
to
>cast it properly.
>
>So, can fairies breath underwater, or does Iolanthe have to come up for air
>?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan Potter <alan.potter@...>
>To: 'ross-d@onelist.com' <ross-d@onelist.com>
>Date: 18 September 1998 11:57
>Subject: [ross-d] Re: Hail Poetry
>
>
>>From: Alan Potter <alan.potter@...>
>>
>>Good suggestion.  Iolanthe is indeed eighteen, Strephon five-and-twenty.
>>
>>I always did wonder why those ages were picked to stop aging.  Why not
five
>>and a quarter, or something similarly appropriate?  I reckon you're right,
>>those are the best ages for attractiveness.  Or so Gilbert thought,
anyway.
>>He did have an eye for young ladies, as far as I know.
>>
>>regards,
>>//alan
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So five and twenty is the most attractive age for a man to be ?  Tell that
to Sean Connery fans !

If Gilbert had any thought for the amateur stage, he should have made
Strephon 40 at least, not given him any songs, and let Iolanthe do all the
singing.   He should then have done away with the peers, and given their
songs to the female, non 17 year olds.  That way, we might have been able to
cast it properly.

So, can fairies breath underwater, or does Iolanthe have to come up for air
?

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Potter <alan.potter@...>
To: 'ross-d@onelist.com' <ross-d@onelist.com>
Date: 18 September 1998 11:57
Subject: [ross-d] Re: Hail Poetry


>From: Alan Potter <alan.potter@...>
>
>Good suggestion.  Iolanthe is indeed eighteen, Strephon five-and-twenty.
>
>I always did wonder why those ages were picked to stop aging.  Why not five
>and a quarter, or something similarly appropriate?  I reckon you're right,
>those are the best ages for attractiveness.  Or so Gilbert thought, anyway.
>He did have an eye for young ladies, as far as I know.
>
>regards,
>//alan
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My society has just received some advertising blurb for the "MG Music Personal
Rehearsal System" which provides cassette tapes of the orchestral accompaniments
of the most popular G&S operas (prepared electronically).  They are of the
accompaniment only, with no vocal lines.
Perhaps I'm being a bit thick, but when I make teaching tapes for my people, I
always assume that it is the vocal lines which are of most interest to them and
they're not so bothered about the accompaniment!
The tapes are £7.50 each, but if you buy seven operas for £49 you get Trial by
Jury free.  A 30 minute demo tape is available for £1.
The phone no, if anyone is interested, is 01536-517350.
Rachel

An interesting question, Bryan.  While sitting through endless G&S rehearsals as
a rehearsal pianist, I have often tried to fathom out some of the finer points
and inconsistencies in the plots, but that is one which has never occurred to
me.  I think Amanda's explanation is as good as any.

It has reminded me of an article I read many years ago in a G&S Society magazine
which attempted to explain why in Pinafore the Captain and Ralph are apparently
of similar age and yet the Captain appears to be much older.  I can't remember
the details, but the gist was that both children were the product of marriages
between fairies and mortals - Ralph had a fairy (young-looking) upper half and
the Captain was also half a fairy but the other way round.  It was all very
cleverly worked out and supported by references in the libretto - for example
Ralph (who has old legs) cannot dance a hornpipe whereas the Captain (with young
legs) is reported to have danced one on the cabin table.
Rachel

Good suggestion.  Iolanthe is indeed eighteen, Strephon five-and-twenty.

I always did wonder why those ages were picked to stop aging.  Why not five
and a quarter, or something similarly appropriate?  I reckon you're right,
those are the best ages for attractiveness.  Or so Gilbert thought, anyway.
He did have an eye for young ladies, as far as I know.

regards,
//alan

In answer to your query about Strephon and Iolanthe's relative ages, I
wonder if it's something to do with what the optimum age is for men and
women? Do all women want to look 18 forever whilst men would like to
appear a little more mature? (I can't remember exactly what the ages
quoted in Iolanthe are! - Is it eighteen, and five and twenty??)

Just a thought, anyway. I hope this helps your motivation, Bryan.

Amanda



Bryan Hallett wrote:
>
> From: "Bryan Hallett" <hallettb@...>
>
> Thanks to everyone re. "Hail Pottery" (deliberate spelling error - perhaps
> it should really be in "The Card", with that title).  All very technical
> about resolving the chord and all that...but I'll certainly look at the
> first bass line for preference.
> Have downloaded the file, and will now probably set about changing the words
> !
> One more question - why does Strephon's top half appear older than
> Iolanthe's ?  If his top half is a fairy, then surely that shouldn't age at
> all, and still look the same age as Iolanthe.  I only ask, 'cos otherwise I
> won't be able to understand my motovation for the part.
>
> Hi Christine.  Who are you again ?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rachel Keegan <keeganr@...>
> To: ross-d@onelist.com <ross-d@onelist.com>
> Date: 16 September 1998 17:29
> Subject: [ross-d] Re: Hail Poetry
>
> >From: "Rachel Keegan" <keeganr@...>
> >
> >Alan
> >I'm not sure that you've given him the right answer, since what he actually
> >asked for was something called "Hail Pottery" which isn't in any of the
> >versions of Pirates which I've done (only joking, Bryan)
> >Bryan
> >I agree with Alan about the 1st bass line - even if you sing tenor for the
> >rest of the piece, try to sing 1st bass just for the last few bars of HP -
> >it's one of the most thrilling moments in the whole of G&S.  When I do
> >Pirates, I usually select one reliable person to sing that line, since
> >nobody ever seems to want to sing 1st bass in G&S (much the same applies to
> >2nd tenor).  I've checked the MIDI file and they have put both bass lines
> on
> >the same track, but the 1st bass is quite prominent so you should be able
> to
> >see what Alan is talking about.
> >Cheers
> >Rachel
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Alan Potter <alan.potter@...>
> >To: 'ross-d@onelist.com' <ross-d@onelist.com>
> >Date: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 09:06
> >Subject: [ross-d] Re: Digest Number 2
> >
> >
> >>From: Alan Potter <alan.potter@...>
> >>
> >>Bryan,
> >>
> >>Hail Poetry comes from the finale of Act one of Pirates, which starts "O
> >men
> >>of dark and dismal fate".
> >>
> >>Do me a favour - try to learn the first bass line, if poss!  Very few of
> >the
> >>men sing this, very few men know it.  And yet it's key to the last word of
> >>the hymn.  It's the line that creates, then resolves, the dischord.  This
> >>year, I had so badly oversung before it that I had no voice left
> whatsoever
> >>to belt out that line :-)
> >>
> >>regards,
> >>//alan
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>I'm not sure that you've given him the right answer, since what he actually
>asked for was something called "Hail Pottery" which isn't in any of the
>versions of Pirates which I've done (only joking, Bryan)


Good heavens, I never even noticed.  Hmm... I've just sent out some CVs in
which I claimed that 'reviewing documentation' was a skill.  Guess I'm
chancing my arm on that one :-)

Maybe 'Hail Pottery' is someone saying 'hello' to me!

regards,
//alan

Thanks to everyone re. "Hail Pottery" (deliberate spelling error - perhaps
it should really be in "The Card", with that title).  All very technical
about resolving the chord and all that...but I'll certainly look at the
first bass line for preference.
Have downloaded the file, and will now probably set about changing the words
!
One more question - why does Strephon's top half appear older than
Iolanthe's ?  If his top half is a fairy, then surely that shouldn't age at
all, and still look the same age as Iolanthe.  I only ask, 'cos otherwise I
won't be able to understand my motovation for the part.

Hi Christine.  Who are you again ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Rachel Keegan <keeganr@...>
To: ross-d@onelist.com <ross-d@onelist.com>
Date: 16 September 1998 17:29
Subject: [ross-d] Re: Hail Poetry


>From: "Rachel Keegan" <keeganr@...>
>
>Alan
>I'm not sure that you've given him the right answer, since what he actually
>asked for was something called "Hail Pottery" which isn't in any of the
>versions of Pirates which I've done (only joking, Bryan)
>Bryan
>I agree with Alan about the 1st bass line - even if you sing tenor for the
>rest of the piece, try to sing 1st bass just for the last few bars of HP -
>it's one of the most thrilling moments in the whole of G&S.  When I do
>Pirates, I usually select one reliable person to sing that line, since
>nobody ever seems to want to sing 1st bass in G&S (much the same applies to
>2nd tenor).  I've checked the MIDI file and they have put both bass lines
on
>the same track, but the 1st bass is quite prominent so you should be able
to
>see what Alan is talking about.
>Cheers
>Rachel
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan Potter <alan.potter@...>
>To: 'ross-d@onelist.com' <ross-d@onelist.com>
>Date: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 09:06
>Subject: [ross-d] Re: Digest Number 2
>
>
>>From: Alan Potter <alan.potter@...>
>>
>>Bryan,
>>
>>Hail Poetry comes from the finale of Act one of Pirates, which starts "O
>men
>>of dark and dismal fate".
>>
>>Do me a favour - try to learn the first bass line, if poss!  Very few of
>the
>>men sing this, very few men know it.  And yet it's key to the last word of
>>the hymn.  It's the line that creates, then resolves, the dischord.  This
>>year, I had so badly oversung before it that I had no voice left
whatsoever
>>to belt out that line :-)
>>
>>regards,
>>//alan
>>
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Hi

Does anyone out there remember me?  You'd know me by my
maiden name - 'Whiteside".

Last time I was at Ripon was for '42nd Street' - which is about
3-Ripons ago.

I haven't been able to make it for the last couple of years - due
to various family weddings including my own - to Roger - who I
met at Ripon when we did 'Billy'!  So, be warned - Ripon can be
dangerous to your single life!!  But then I guess you all know
that anyway!!!

Well, I'll wait and see if anyone remembers me - Bryan Hallett
excluded (nothing personal Bryan - but I know you know me!).

Christine

Alan
I'm not sure that you've given him the right answer, since what he actually
asked for was something called "Hail Pottery" which isn't in any of the
versions of Pirates which I've done (only joking, Bryan)
Bryan
I agree with Alan about the 1st bass line - even if you sing tenor for the
rest of the piece, try to sing 1st bass just for the last few bars of HP -
it's one of the most thrilling moments in the whole of G&S.  When I do
Pirates, I usually select one reliable person to sing that line, since
nobody ever seems to want to sing 1st bass in G&S (much the same applies to
2nd tenor).  I've checked the MIDI file and they have put both bass lines on
the same track, but the 1st bass is quite prominent so you should be able to
see what Alan is talking about.
Cheers
Rachel

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Potter <alan.potter@...>
To: 'ross-d@onelist.com' <ross-d@onelist.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 09:06
Subject: [ross-d] Re: Digest Number 2


>From: Alan Potter <alan.potter@...>
>
>Bryan,
>
>Hail Poetry comes from the finale of Act one of Pirates, which starts "O
men
>of dark and dismal fate".
>
>Do me a favour - try to learn the first bass line, if poss!  Very few of
the
>men sing this, very few men know it.  And yet it's key to the last word of
>the hymn.  It's the line that creates, then resolves, the dischord.  This
>year, I had so badly oversung before it that I had no voice left whatsoever
>to belt out that line :-)
>
>regards,
>//alan
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Bryan,

Hail Poetry comes from the finale of Act one of Pirates, which starts "O men
of dark and dismal fate".

Do me a favour - try to learn the first bass line, if poss!  Very few of the
men sing this, very few men know it.  And yet it's key to the last word of
the hymn.  It's the line that creates, then resolves, the dischord.  This
year, I had so badly oversung before it that I had no voice left whatsoever
to belt out that line :-)

regards,
//alan

OK- this is going to sound really dumb from a Riponite - but what is the
first line of the number in "Pirates" that has "Hail Pottery" in it ?  I
really ought to make an effort to learn it, so that I'm not struck dumb on
Saturday night next year ...
I'm a G&S newbie - and although I could probably sing all of Iolanthe for
you - I've never done "Pirates" (OK - strike me off the mailing list now,
Alan), so it's all new to me.  Given the first line, I can download the Midi
file and lyrics from Savoy net.  All my seraches so far have been in vain.
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Date: 07 September 1998 10:18
Subject: [ross-d] Digest Number 2


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>      1. New photos on the web site
>           From: "Marie and Alan Potter" <the.potters@...>
>
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
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>___________________________________________________________________________
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>
>Message: 1
>   Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 14:24:24 +0100
>   From: "Marie and Alan Potter" <the.potters@...>
>Subject: New photos on the web site
>
>I've stuck a few new photos on the web site today, courtesy of Rachel
>Keegan - thanks, Rachel!
>
>    http://www.atp.clara.net/ripon
>
>regards,
>//alan
>
>Alan and Marie Potter in Polmont, Falkirk, Scotland
>the.potters@...
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I think it was Saturday 5th - I remember the date because I told Carl that
the weather was sure to be good since my Society had a Saturday rehearsal.
  The sun came out right on cue as I set off for this, so it should have
been OK for them.

I took my Ripon photos to rehearsal last week and one of our members is
very interested - she would be an asset to any of the performing classes so
I'm pleased about this.  It really is up to all of us to spread the word
about ROSS.

Last night our chairman phoned me (in the middle of Coronation Street which
annoyed me) to tell me that we have to reduce the running time of the Music
Hall of which I am MD next week.  Tonight he will be told that his solo
number is one of the things which is going to be cut.  They don't teach you
this sort of thing on the NODA MDs course.
Cheers
Rachel
I think it was Saturday 5th - I remember the date because I told Carl that
the weather was sure to be good since my Society had a Saturday rehearsal.
  The sun came out right on cue as I set off for this, so it should have
been OK for them.

I took my Ripon photos to rehearsal last week and one of our members is
very interested - she would be an asset to any of the performing classes so
I'm pleased about this.  It really is up to all of us to spread the word
about ROSS.

Last night our chairman phoned me (in the middle of Coronation Street which
annoyed me) to tell me that we have to reduce the running time of the Music
Hall of which I am MD next week.  Tonight he will be told that his solo
number is one of the things which is going to be cut.  They don't teach you
this sort of thing on the NODA MDs course.
Cheers
Rachel


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Subject:  [ross-d] Congratulations!

From: Amanda Blane <amandablane@...>

Talking of Riponites getting married, I think it must have been this
weekend that Carl and Jackie were tying the knot, so congratulations to
them and I hope it all went well.

Maybe hoping for good weather for their honeymoon (in the Lakes I
believe) is wishful thinking, but I'm sure we'd all appreciate a bit of
an Indian summer, so here's hoping!

Amanda
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Talking of Riponites getting married, I think it must have been this
weekend that Carl and Jackie were tying the knot, so congratulations to
them and I hope it all went well.

Maybe hoping for good weather for their honeymoon (in the Lakes I
believe) is wishful thinking, but I'm sure we'd all appreciate a bit of
an Indian summer, so here's hoping!

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To Christine Mumford (aka Whiteside), an old Riponite who married another
(Roger Mumford).  Make her feel welcome, and tell her she was great in "Best
Little Whorehouse".

If anyone else knows some alumni, please help sign them on.  The more the
merrier.

I've stuck a few new photos on the web site today, courtesy of Rachel
Keegan - thanks, Rachel!

     http://www.atp.clara.net/ripon

regards,
//alan

Alan and Marie Potter in Polmont, Falkirk, Scotland
the.potters@...
http://www.atp.clara.net/

So, it looks as if the £10 idea has been accepted.  Here's hoping it will
help put the school onto a slightly more secure footing.  Of course, those
of us in Class C who returned our scores should maybe claim a rebate :-)

I've sent a note to Kay Perversi asking her to put some info about this list
into the newsletter when it comes out.

Also, Rachel has very kindly sent some photos from rehearsal, so I shall be
putting them up some time over the weekend - they should certainly be there
by Sunday evening.  I'll post a note to the list when they've been added!
Thanks, Rachel

All the best for now,

regards,
//alan

Alan and Marie Potter in Polmont, Falkirk, Scotland
the.potters@...
http://www.atp.clara.net/

Hi, everyone - especially the hard working Potters .... hope your all back
and working on shows at the normal pedestrian pace !  I'll be in touch
soon...

Bryan Hallett

For those who've asked for it - the words of "Merino"

Oh dark the night, when first I met Merino, Merino
I've seen no fairer looking breed of sheep
AB So woolly
SATB Not like all the others
S As_______ into her field I'd creep
ATB Count her and you'd fall asleep

I blushed, she smiled, and baa'd "My name's Merino"
Merino, a scene no lover of the flock forgets
I took time to stroke her
I then played my joker, and showed her a poker, and told her to stoke up my
fire
She chomped on a daisy, the rest of it's hazy, but soon we began to
perspire____
   Merino, I once knew a sheep named Merino

Oh I got high when I caught the eye
Of soft and sweet Merino
Black faced sheep Merino
Sh'd follow where e'er I led
To hear her bleat would turn you on
Oh what a sweet ovine
So pick up your wellies and go, and get in line
It's living your life in a show
By Rogers and Hammerstein

SA High on a hill stood a lonely goatherd, lay oodle lay oodle lay ee oo

A shepherd I
  A shepherd he
Friends call me Dai
  Friends call him Dai
Bethrothed are we
  Betrothed are they
And mean to be espoused today

TB Oh my dear how awful, that's disgusting
  How's he gonna stop his helmet rusting ?

Jacobs, Jacobs
Romsey
Black Fell, Black Fell
Swaledale
Wensleydale, Black faced, West Suffolk, Ew_e
Baa baa black sheep have you any wool
Gloucester old spot, Gloucester old spot
Baa_____ Baa Barbara Ann
Lamb Chop
T Gloucester Old Spot

Too sheepish to ever say no, sends shivers right down your spine
Now for the kill, we put the ram in with marjoram
Rosemary, salt and an oeuf
TB Bay leaf as well
Just add the water, then chuck out the giblets and stir it like hell
Just smell
This Lancashire dish will sell

A shepherd's pie
  A shepherd's pie
My love and I
  His love and Dai
Betrothed were we
  Betrothed were they
And meant to be espoused today

Ewe and Dai
We ate tit all, washed down with blood red wine
But we go on pretending
Lamb's tales  like ours
Have happy endings
  Mint sauce anyone ?
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Date: 30 August 1998 10:39
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Hello everyone
This is a test message to see if my attempts to subscribe to the list have been
successful.
Since most (if not all) of the addressees in Alan's message were in Class C, I'd
like to thank the members of Class C for making my week at Ripon so enjoyable. 
Although it wasn't my first time at the school, I didn't really get to know many
people last year when I was in Class E.
I'm looking forward to keeping in touch with people via this list
Cheers
Rachel