Greetings, Juan - and list members! The question about the narrative function of the earthquake is a good one. Bauckham wrote an article, which is included (in...
Georg S. Adamsen
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Sep 2, 2001 3:54 pm
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Hi Jon The title of your thesis and the topics you intend to study may require more than the available time for a PhD thesis. Perhaps you could elaborate on...
Georg S. Adamsen
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Sep 2, 2001 3:54 pm
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Dear list members I am not sure that Babylon should be equated with Jerusalem or Rome. One of the obstacles to both interpretations is the the structure of ...
Georg S. Adamsen
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Sep 2, 2001 3:54 pm
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Georg You comment concerning the Two Witnesses, It is therefore questionable whether their prophecy is an act of evangelistic testimony. I also doubt whether...
Alan Missen
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Sep 2, 2001 10:02 pm
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Dear Don, Thanks for your continued pushing. It is god for all. Once again I have had to find several periods to put an answer together. I am sure that you are...
ksmith@...
Sep 2, 2001 11:46 pm
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Dear Georg, My position is that the Revelation is (at least) double layered. There was a fulfilment - or partial fulfilment - of the Rev'n which those to whom...
ksmith@...
Sep 3, 2001 5:13 am
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Dear Georg & others, ... Could you be more specific with regard to the relationship of NJ and the (glorified) people of God? Would you equate the two (as some...
Marko Jauhiainen
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Sep 3, 2001 9:19 am
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... The question here is where are you locating your interpretation? Is it in the mind of the writer, the first audience, or the 21st century reader? For John,...
Ian Paul
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Sep 3, 2001 10:58 am
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... Yes, but using one part of the NT for the exegesis of the other has to overcome one important problem: suppose 'John' disagreed with Paul and Matthew? Or...
Ian Paul
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Sep 3, 2001 10:58 am
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In a message dated 9/2/2001 11:55:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, georg.adamsen@... writes: << I also doubt whether the results in 11:13 are different from...
profram@...
Sep 3, 2001 1:38 pm
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Dear Ian: Yes and amen. Or to put it another way, before we start comparing texts between books, is it not necessary to establish the literary structure of ...
John M. Sweigart
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Sep 3, 2001 2:51 pm
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Thanks for your replies, Ramsey and Alan. I do not say that it is not perhaps a possible interpretation. I just say that I am unconvinced. As far as I can see,...
Georg S. Adamsen
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Sep 4, 2001 7:25 am
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Yes, the New Jerusalem is equated with the Bride of the Lamb (21:9f) and she comes down from/out of heaven (21:2; cf. 3:12). Since 21:1 has just announced the...
Georg S. Adamsen
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Sep 4, 2001 7:25 am
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I hesitate to say that "for John, something would surely have ..." when this is the very issue under discussion. This is an exegetical issue. It is the text...
Georg S. Adamsen
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Sep 4, 2001 7:50 am
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... Thanks for the clarification, Georg. I do not wish to address Gundry's article here, but let me explain what I had in my mind when I asked you to be more...
Marko Jauhiainen
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Sep 4, 2001 11:29 am
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Ian, has raised good questions of course, but not, in my view, questions that are unanswered. First, we have Paul's statement that he and John, who I would...
Don K. Preston
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Sep 5, 2001 2:03 pm
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Don There is an interesting question here on where the burden of proof lies. If I understand correctly, then for your argument to be valid you need a number of...
Ian Paul
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Sep 5, 2001 10:26 pm
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Greetings! I am curious and am still intrigued by something. If we say, as so many do, that the beast with the seven heads is Nero then what would be the ...
Ed Garcia
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Sep 6, 2001 4:07 pm
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Ian, I will try to address some of the issues that you have raised. Thanks for the input and comments. My thoughts interjected below. Don K ... From: "Ian...
Don K. Preston
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Sep 6, 2001 7:20 pm
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In Rev. Paul's response to Mr. Preston he says: "Hmmm. And how clear is substitutionary atonement in Revelation?" More often than not the book of Revelation...
Ed Garcia
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Sep 6, 2001 8:37 pm
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Georg, I find it difficult to identify the earthquake in 11:13 with those in 6:12 and 16:18. First, the whole city is affected in 16 and all the cities of the...
IAN BROWN
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Sep 6, 2001 9:09 pm
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That is why I referred to Rv. 5, and 7 due to the referents to the redeeming shed blood. Atonement is very much present. I probably did not communicate what I...
Don K. Preston
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Sep 6, 2001 10:50 pm
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Dear Ed, <<<If we say, as so many do, that the beast with the seven heads is Nero then what would be the significance? Of what value is such a conclusion? This...
ksmith@...
Sep 6, 2001 11:36 pm
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... There are Nero-like characters in every age; I actually knew one, now thankfully dead. His name was Solomon AJ (SAJ) Musa, he was responsible for a fair...
RSBrenchley@...
Sep 7, 2001 8:46 am
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In response to Ed Garcia's question: Is there value in finding a reference to Nero? Given the character of a figure like Nero, could not Nero serve as a ...
Dave Mathewson
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Sep 7, 2001 2:03 pm
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Kym, Thank you for your response. I think one main point of difference between us is that you accept a date of 62 for Revelation, I go with the mid to late...
Ed Garcia
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Sep 7, 2001 4:17 pm
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I agree with you in as far as Nero is as good a metaphorical image as any other cruel ruler we could name--Hitler or Stalin for instance. I recall when Nicolae...
Ed Garcia
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Sep 7, 2001 5:27 pm
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Has anyone on the list read the new Mitchell Reddish commentary on Revelation (Smyth & Helwys series). Any evaluations? Thanks Greg Clarke ...
Greg Clarke
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Sep 11, 2001 1:03 pm
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... I have read large chunks of it; I find it sensible, wide-ranging, in dialogue with other scholars and concerned about real issues (such as John's ethical...
David L. Barr
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Sep 11, 2001 5:01 pm
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Dear Rev. listers, My book, "Redating the Revelation and…" has arrived. The bad news is that the printers made the covers too small and trimmed the book to ...
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