Kym, just a brief note or two. I fully agree that Peter has in mind vindication of the martyrs at the parousia. However, I do not believe that Peter's concept...
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Don K. Preston
dkpret@...
Aug 29, 2001 10:21 pm
Wish I had more time to weigh in on this fascinating discussion. However, just a note. Vincent's Word Studies says that Jerusalem did sit on 7 hills. Perhaps...
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Ed Garcia
Ed.Garcia@...
Aug 29, 2001 9:24 pm
Dave Mathewson just wrote concerning a coin from about 71 A.D.: "The reverse of the coin depicts the goddess Roma sitting on Rome's seven mountains/hills....
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Dave Mathewson
d_mathewson@...
Aug 29, 2001 8:51 pm
One more go at the Rome-Babylon debate. David Aune, in his commentary on Rev 17-22, includes a depiction of a coin which he claims was minted in 71 A.D....
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Ed Garcia
Ed.Garcia@...
Aug 29, 2001 2:42 pm
Dear Rev. Paul, I've enjoyed our discussion, but I think it has run its course. Though unpersuaded, I am bowing out for now. "Iron sharpens iron, so one man...
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Ian Paul
ian.b.paul@...
Aug 29, 2001 10:32 am
Dear Ed ... Er, unless it was of profound siginificance to John and his audience, and the evidence suggests it was. ... ...except that Roman Imperial power is...
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ksmith@...
Aug 29, 2001 1:19 am
Dear Ian, You wrote, ... composition of > Revelation to explain the disagreements about date. He postulates that the > different sections of Revelation were...
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Ed Garcia
Ed.Garcia@...
Aug 28, 2001 10:58 pm
Dear Rev. Paul, Thanks for responding. The Misuse of enumeration is not my point. My point is that just about any name can be pulled out of just about any...
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Ian Paul
ian.b.paul@...
Aug 28, 2001 9:41 pm
... is ... Indeed. But why should misuse of enumeration by others rule out its proper use if that was a possibility for the author or first audience? As you...
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Ed Garcia
Ed.Garcia@...
Aug 28, 2001 5:13 pm
(I apologize if this response appears twice, I wasn't sure if my first posting worked. --Ed Garcia) ... Could you say a little more about this? Gladly! One of...
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Ed Garcia
Ed.Garcia@...
Aug 28, 2001 3:33 pm
... Could you say a little more about this? Gladly! One of the problems with using isopsephia or gematria to solve the riddle is that you can get just about...
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Ian Paul
ian.b.paul@...
Aug 28, 2001 1:51 pm
... "Babylon". I am very attracted by David Aune's understanding of the composition of Revelation to explain the disagreements about date. He postulates that...
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Ian Paul
ian.b.paul@...
Aug 28, 2001 1:51 pm
... Could you say a little more about this? The solution of 'Nero[n] Caesar [Kaisar]' has powerful exegetical credentials, in that: 1. It follows the...
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Ed Garcia
Ed.Garcia@...
Aug 27, 2001 9:54 pm
Dear Otto, Thank you for your additional comments. I honestly appreciate the input. Concerning (1): I can understand why people see the seven mountains as ...
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Ed Garcia
Ed.Garcia@...
Aug 27, 2001 8:11 pm
Thank you for your comments. I'll see if I can track down Beagley. In passing, I too accept the late date. Thanks again! Ed Garcia ... From: Phil Mayo...
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Ed Garcia
Ed.Garcia@...
Aug 27, 2001 7:22 pm
Mr. Nordgreen, I found your comments interesting. Bravo on your response in point (1) it was very clever! You caught me tripping on my own two feet. However, I...
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Otto Erlend Nordgreen
otto.nordgreen@...
Aug 27, 2001 7:03 pm
Dear Ed, just some additional remarks to your understanding of Rev 17 etc. (1) I guess you see that it's possible (even if you do not find it likely...) that...
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Phil Mayo
pjmayo@...
Aug 27, 2001 6:53 pm
Dear Ed, I think maybe you are placing too much weight here on the word "oros" in Rev. 17.9 et. al. There is some fluidity in its translation--hill, mount, ...
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Otto Erlend Nordgreen
otto.nordgreen@...
Aug 27, 2001 6:26 pm
Regarding the on-going debate on the identity of 'Babylon (the great)' I would like to present some (critical) comments of my own -- here in response to Ed...
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Ed Garcia
Ed.Garcia@...
Aug 27, 2001 2:27 pm
A response to my earlier post mentioned that I had said nothing of chapter 17. Here are some of my thoughts on a few of these topics. The harlot sits on seven...
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ksmith@...
Aug 27, 2001 6:53 am
Dear Ed, ... always struck me as too pat, too clean. I am suspicious. Rome as a solution is obvious but maybe too obvious. >>> Perhaps we make it too difficult...
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ksmith@...
Aug 27, 2001 4:25 am
Dear Don, Sorry if this response is a bit disjointed. I have had about four goes at completing it. I might be starting to spread myself a bit thin! I agree...
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John M. Sweigart
jsweiger@...
Aug 26, 2001 1:40 pm
Dear Otto: Good to see that you are still active and I am glad the list has become active again. Interestingly, I heard Grant Jeffrey say this past December ...
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Aug 25, 2001 8:03 pm
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Aug 25, 2001 4:49 pm
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Don Myers
dmyers@...
Aug 25, 2001 3:33 pm
I would like to recieve it. Don Myers ... From: Alan Missen [mailto:westhaven@...] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:32 PM To:...
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ksmith@...
Aug 25, 2001 4:47 am
Dear Alan, Thank you for your article. It was a good read. Not sufficiently good, hwever, to dissuade me from a date of 62. I do wish I had seen your work...
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Phil Mayo
pjmayo@...
Aug 24, 2001 9:15 pm
... From: "Don K. Preston" <dkpret@...> To: <revelation-list@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [revelation-list]...
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Phil Mayo
pjmayo@...
Aug 24, 2001 9:13 pm
The arguments as to the identity of Babylon based on Jerusalem's role in persecution of the saints vs. Rome are interesting. I was wondering, however, why no...
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Don K. Preston
dkpret@...
Aug 24, 2001 2:42 pm
Of course, I concur with Ed Garcia. One of the things that strikes me as odd with the Rome/Babylon posit is the fact that Babylon is depicted as having filled...
