Dear folks, I am currently preparing a syllabus for an undergraduate course on Apocalyptic Literature. I am hoping to include a unit on Apocalyptic and...
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irbrown@...
Jun 4, 2003 7:32 pm
Dear List Members, My comments refer specifically to issues raised by the portion of Don's post quoted below. It is one thing to say that that Old Testament...
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Don K
dkpret@...
Jun 4, 2003 11:39 am
Kym, I always enjoy your thoughts, even if/when I don't agree. :-) I full concur with the posit that John was using the "prophetic vernacular" of the day, and...
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Kym Smith
kymhsm
Jun 4, 2003 5:04 am
Dear Alan, <<<So should we understand that the imagery is borrowed from previous literature to describe John's situation, or do you think the symbols and...
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Alan Fuller
e_s_c_h_a_t_o_n
Jun 3, 2003 2:54 pm
Hi Kym, Thanks for your response. So should we understand that the imagery is borrowed from previous literature to describe John's situation, or do you think...
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Kym Smith
kymhsm
May 28, 2003 1:02 am
Dear Alan, <<<My question is, if Revelation is talking about first century persecutions and kings, why are symbols from the Old Testament and from apochryphal...
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Alan Fuller
e_s_c_h_a_t_o_n
May 27, 2003 9:22 pm
Whenever the Book of Revelation is discussed it is inevitable that the date of its writing comes up, and then which seven kings are represented in chapter 17. ...
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Kym Smith
kymhsm
May 26, 2003 1:05 am
Dear Aleksander, Thank you for drawing my attention to Slater's article. The Revelation never appeals to apostolic authority (Slater, p. 253), I think, because...
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mloftus955
May 25, 2003 9:46 am
Hi Ed, See my answer to Otto's post, basically I read the scripture itself and not rely on outside sources. The ancient sources may be "christian" but they are...
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mloftus955
May 25, 2003 9:46 am
Hi Otto, I believe that John wrote the book for other reasons, not because of Irenaeus, I don't think he's a reliable source. I think it is safer to trust the...
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Otto Erlend Nordgreen
otton@...
May 24, 2003 12:49 pm
Mark, ... Why? ... ...but does not Irenaeus also indicate that the apostle John wrote the Apocalypse. Do you consider Irenaeus reliable here? (Perhaps Irenaeus...
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Otto Erlend Nordgreen
otton@...
May 24, 2003 12:26 pm
Slater's article is interesting. I do, however, think that his previous works on the date of Revelation are more convincing. I also think that Slater...
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Ed Garcia
egarcia66604
May 23, 2003 9:02 pm
I am curious, what are your reasons for accepting the apostle John as the writer of Revelation? Thank you. Ed Garcia ... From: mloftus955...
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mloftus955
May 23, 2003 8:52 pm
I agree with much of what Slater wrote, except that I believe that the apostle John wrote the Revelation. I think that the statement from Irenaeus is very weak...
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Aleksandar Milanovic
amilanov@...
May 23, 2003 5:40 pm
Dear friends, Have you read Slaters' article about the date of Revelation (T. B. Slater, Dating the Apocalypse to John, Biblica 84(2003) 252-258....
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Ralph Korner
r_korner@...
May 15, 2003 5:12 pm
Georg, Does perhaps Jan Fekkes III address this in Isaiah and the Prophetic Traditions in the Book of Revelation (JSNTSup93)? I do not presently have access to...
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Greg Clarke
gjcmatthias
May 15, 2003 2:16 am
Fekkes seems to think it is not an allusion. Isaiah and Prophetic Traditions (JSOT Sheffield), p. 166. Anyway, someone told me that this verse was just...
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jonp
jonp@...
May 14, 2003 1:41 pm
Beale's work does appear to be the best scholarly outline of this position. In his new commentary (Revelation of Jesus Christ, Andrews University Press, 2002,...
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Georg S. Adamsen
gsaatmenighe...
May 14, 2003 10:00 am
Are any of you aware of scholarly articles or even books which discuss whether Rev 16:12 perhaps alludes to Cyrus in Isaiah 40ff? So far I have found a quite...
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Alan Fuller
rocsy
May 6, 2003 6:29 pm
Dear Kym, Thanks for your insight. I have gone back and re-read your earlier post, and I think it makes a lot of sense. It is intresting to compare...
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kymhsm
May 6, 2003 1:03 am
Dear Alan, In your response to Pere Porta Roca you mention 2 Pet 1:19 and say <<<I'm sure you're already familiar with this, but I'll mention it since you...
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Don K
dkpret@...
May 5, 2003 6:52 pm
Thank you, John, I will get it via inter-library if at all possible. Don K. Preston ... From: <john.marshall@...> To: <revelation-list@yahoogroups.com>...
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john.marshall@...
j_william_ma...
May 5, 2003 3:53 pm
Don and others, I've convinced at least myself that my treatment of the 144k in _Parables of War: Reading John's Jewish Apocalypse_ (WLU press, 2001) pp....
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Don K
dkpret@...
May 5, 2003 3:38 pm
Thanks very much, Dave, I appreciate it. Don K ... From: "Dave Mathewson" <d_mathewson@...> To: <revelation-list@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 05,...
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Dave Mathewson
d_mathewson@...
May 5, 2003 1:15 pm
On the 144,000 in Rev. 7 and 14 check Richard Bauckham's The Climax of Prophecy (T. & T. Clark) chap. 8, pp. 215-32. Dave Mathewson ...
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Don K
dkpret@...
May 5, 2003 1:03 pm
Hello, Alan, and by the way thanks for your comments on the other post. Very much appreciated. I would only add this. I think that the star referent goes back...
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Bob MacDonald
drmacdonald_...
May 3, 2003 3:35 am
This article Thomas B. SLATER Biblica 84 (2003) 252-258 may be of interest to the list http://www.bsw.org/?l=71841&a=Ani04.html Bob ...
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Bob MacDonald
drmacdonald_...
May 3, 2003 2:52 am
Hi Pere Morning star here is not exactly the same word as in 2 Peter though it may have similar sense. 2 Peter 1:19 is phosphoros - bearer of light - lucifer...
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Alan Fuller
rocsy
May 2, 2003 7:02 pm
Hi Pere Porta Roca, I'm sure you're already familiar with this, but I'll mention it since you didn't. Second Peter 1:19 describes Christ as the morning star ...
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Pere Porta Roca
pporta@...
May 2, 2003 4:55 am
Dear all, I'm particulary interested, here and now, in knowing which real sense have Jesus' words in the final part of Re 22:16: EGO EIMI ... O ASTER O LAMPROS...
