Hi all, Everything I have ever read, or any picture I have ever seen, indicates that the bow in Rev 6:2 was the bow of a bow and arrow. A person in another...
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Ed Garcia
egarcia66604
Oct 17, 2002 9:03 pm
Interesting. But how would that type of bow (and I'm picturing something like a girl would wear in her hair or something atop a gift)fit in with the idea of...
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Alan Fuller
rocsy
Oct 17, 2002 9:09 pm
Hi Ed, Thanks for your help. I had that thought too, about the conquering. Tying someone up with a bow wouldn't help much would it? By the way, I read your...
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Georg S. Adamsen
gsaatmenighe...
Oct 17, 2002 9:10 pm
Alan, The whole context and the warfare imagery in Revelation make sure that this bow is a weapon. Georg S. Adamsen PS: Please, use scholarly tools such as...
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Alan Fuller
rocsy
Oct 17, 2002 9:20 pm
Thank you Mr. Adamsen. I will check it out. I hope everything went well with your dissertation. AF ... that...
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Ed Garcia
egarcia66604
Oct 17, 2002 9:23 pm
Yes, I also believe that the return of Christ is a theme of Revelation but not, in my opinion, is not the dominant theme. Ed Garcia ... From: Alan Fuller...
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Alan Fuller
rocsy
Oct 17, 2002 9:29 pm
Have you, or would you be willing to elaborate on that view, or is this not the proper list for that? AF ... Revelation but ... conquering. ... re- ... the ......
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Ed Garcia
egarcia66604
Oct 17, 2002 9:31 pm
No problem. I shall collect my thoughts and respond when I am able. Ed Garcia Topeka, KS USA ... From: Alan Fuller [mailto:rocsy@...] Sent: Thursday,...
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Lastday
lastday@...
Oct 18, 2002 1:07 am
Alan, Have you considered that with this bow, the White Horseman not only conquers, but continues to conquer? Note that the word *bow* has the thought of a...
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coates
jasonnola@...
Oct 18, 2002 11:00 am
David Chilton points out that Habakkuk 3:9 is the OT scriptural basis for Revelation 6. (The Days of Vengeance, Tyler, Texas: Dominion Press, 1987 p.186.)...
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Ian Paul
revdrianpaul
Oct 18, 2002 4:27 pm
I have not read Chilton's work--but I have read Allen Kerkeslager (Apollo, Greco-Roman Prophecy, and the Rider on the White Horse in Rev 6.2.¹ JBL 112.1,...
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Lastday
lastday@...
Oct 18, 2002 4:33 pm
Jason, David Chilton believes Rev.6 was fulfilled in the first century. If you agree that Christ is the One who brought peace to the world, when do you think...
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Ed Garcia
egarcia66604
Oct 18, 2002 4:37 pm
I have not read Kerkeslager but I do agree that the rider on the white horse represents false teaching. He conquers but does not kill. However I see no need...
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Ian Paul
revdrianpaul
Oct 18, 2002 4:48 pm
... horse represents false teaching. He conquers but does not kill. ... Kerkeslager argues that the depiction of the rider resembles symbols asociated with...
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John C. Poirier
poirier@...
Oct 18, 2002 4:55 pm
The rider on the white horse is neither Christ, the anti-Christ, nor Apollo. In message 253 (in the archives), I called attention to my own contribution: "I...
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Juan Stam
juanstam2001
Oct 18, 2002 5:14 pm
Rev 6:1-2 is a difficult passage where the textual data in themselves do not permit a definitive interpretation. But I agree with Jason Coates (I must look...
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Otto Erlend Nordgreen
otton@...
Oct 18, 2002 7:38 pm
How should we translate Greek "ge" in the Apocalypse -- "land" or "(known) world"? Any takers? Best wishes O. E. Nordgreen ...
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coates
jasonnola@...
Oct 18, 2002 9:50 pm
"The War against terrorism", as suggested by Mel Miller is certainly an apocalyptic event, but not as in the minds of those who attempt to interpret scripture...
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Joel and Rachel Wilhelm
joelandrachel@...
Oct 19, 2002 3:11 pm
John and list, This raises an interesting question of what our presuppositions are regarding revelation, inerrancy, etc. In my mind, when John says what he saw...
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Gareth Powell
garethrevlist@...
Oct 19, 2002 4:15 pm
John, Although I agree that John did see some form of revelation, I do however think that it is clear that he ÅadaptedĀ¹ the vision he saw in the light of his...
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Steve Black
steveblack44
Oct 19, 2002 4:20 pm
... [snip] I am curious. Would would also say that the writer of Enoch also "saw/had" a vision? -- Steve Black Vancouver School of Theology Vancouver, BC ... ...
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Juan Stam
juanstam2001
Oct 19, 2002 5:26 pm
... From: "Juan Stam" <juanstam@...> To: revelation-list@... Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [revelation-list] Question...
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Ian Paul
revdrianpaul
Oct 19, 2002 7:15 pm
... regarding revelation, inerrancy, etc. In my mind, when John says what he saw was a "vision" "in the Spirit" that would rule out someone consciously and ...
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Joel and Rachel Wilhelm
joelandrachel@...
Oct 19, 2002 7:22 pm
I don't know who the question is addressed to, but from my point of view, the canonicity of Enoch vs. Revelation would mean that I really can't say what the...
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Joel and Rachel Wilhelm
joelandrachel@...
Oct 19, 2002 7:33 pm
Ian, From your perspective John's saying what he "saw" was "a vision" is just so much poetic talk then? Joel ... From: Ian Paul To:...
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Steve Black
steveblack44
Oct 19, 2002 7:39 pm
... Holy special pleading, batman... ... -- Steve Black Vancouver School of Theology Vancouver, BC ... Strangers stopping strangers just to shake their hand......
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Steve Black
steveblack44
Oct 19, 2002 7:48 pm
... I just realized this reference to the TV series "batman" might not be very clear to anyone born after 1972 or so. What I meant by this criptic reference...
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Joel and Rachel Wilhelm
joelandrachel@...
Oct 19, 2002 7:58 pm
Steve Black wrote: I just realized this reference to the TV series "batman" might not be very clear to anyone born after 1972 or so. What I meant by this ...
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Steve Black
steveblack44
Oct 19, 2002 10:52 pm
... My concerns are not with this point of view, as such - but rather how do we engage people who hold views other than our own. In other words, is an given...
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John W. Marshall
j_william_ma...
Oct 21, 2002 2:07 pm
Steve and Joel, I guess the question circulating between Steve Black and Joel Wilhelm is what are communally accepted presuppositions for "scholarly...
