Dear list members Recently I read a journal article (if my memory serves me) on Rev 9:1 in one of the scholarly journals to which we subscribe. It was recently...
I am wondering if there is anyone who has done a history of interpretation on the identity of the lamblike beast in Rev. 13. Any help will be greatly...
Hyunsok Doh
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Oct 26, 2001 4:25 pm
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... interpretation on the identity of the lamblike beast in Rev. 13. Any help will be greatly appreciated.>>> Dear Hyunsok Doh, Chapters 12 and 13 of the...
ksmith@...
Oct 28, 2001 11:25 pm
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Kym, I am wondering, in your response you say "the first beast, this second beast most likely is/will be a person". I agree. But what leads you to that...
... second beast > most likely is/will be a > person". I agree. But what leads you to that conclusion? I have read others > who say that we should not think of...
ksmith@...
Oct 30, 2001 12:12 am
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Dear Kym ... It feels as though this is moving some way from the text itself to appeal to other realms of logic. In discerning whether the text (or its writer)...
Ian Paul
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Oct 30, 2001 3:14 pm
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... to ... A reference to the Trinity here seems anachronistic, unless you're dating Revelation really late; the first clear extant reference to the Trinity...
RSBrenchley@...
Oct 30, 2001 9:23 pm
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Contrary to Mr. Paul, I agree with Kym, I believe that the beasts of Revelation refer to both individuals as well as empires/systems/groups of people. This is...
... as ... Maybe to you or me, but again, the fundamental question is surely what makes sense for John? In personifying the four empires, Daniel appears to...
Ian Paul
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Oct 30, 2001 10:16 pm
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Ian Paul writes: "In personifying the four empires, Daniel appears to have no need for the individual leaders" Whether this is the case or not I cannot say....
... you're dating > Revelation really late; the first clear extant reference to the Trinity being in Theophilus of Antioch, around the 160's AD. >>> Dear...
ksmith@...
Oct 30, 2001 11:35 pm
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Dear Ian, In reference to my post #120, you said, ... itself to appeal to other realms of logic. In discerning whether the text (or its writer) is envisaging a...
ksmith@...
Oct 31, 2001 2:02 am
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Dear Ian, in your discussion with Kym and Ed, you wrote: "Revelation is making particular use of the animal images in Daniel, all of which appear to refer to...
Otto Erlend Nordgreen
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Oct 31, 2001 4:56 pm
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Ed Garcia writes: "Systems can be judged but how do you throw a system into the lake of fire? Individuals, however, can be thrown into the lake of fire." But...
Dave Mathewson
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Oct 31, 2001 7:35 pm
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PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THE MAILING LIST THANK YOU ... available in about a month. Contributors are: Chris Rowland, E. Schussler Fiorenza, Dabid Barr, Steve...
Stettler Alliance Chu...
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Oct 31, 2001 8:41 pm
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please take me off the mailing list thank you ... into ... birth ... both ... http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp...
Stettler Alliance Chu...
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Oct 31, 2001 8:42 pm
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Revelation is indeed filled with metaphor and symbols and one could possibly even argue symbols of symbols. I do understand that. But don't get me wrong, I am...
Hi Alan Two monts ago we discussed Rev 11:13. Then I had to concentrate on other issues. I remain unconvinced that Rev 14:7 and 15:4 supports that 11:13 refers...
Ian, As regards your first reason I and many others have also noticed this development from a partial judgment in ch. 6ff to the complete judgment in 15f....
Dear Georg Thanks for your comments on the above issue. I certainly agree that the argument for 11:13 referring to conversion is open to debate. However, your...
Dear Alan As regards your first question, your question presupposes that proskunew means "worship". If you translate proskunew differently (and I argued in my ...
Georg, Let me say a bit more about my second reason involving Rev 10:6-7. Rev 10:6-7 exhibits the construction OUKETI . . . ALLA . . . showing a strong ...
irbrown@...
Nov 4, 2001 2:50 pm
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Hi Ian I agree that there is a contrast in the OUKETI ... ALLA construction, but not that this proves your point. First, that the delay will end only expresses...
... refers to ... I've been wondering if this is the right question for this verse. For me the thing to note is that there seems to be at least an opportunity ...
I realized when I sent my last post that I should probably have introduced myself first. My interest in Revelation has been in finding ways to communicate its ...
I am Merritt Spencer and have not posted yet. I also am a lay person who has written an unpublished book on Revelation. Ken I would appreciate your emailing ...
merritt spencer
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Nov 5, 2001 3:09 pm
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Ken I received your book and have begun to read it. I decided not to wait until I finished to begin to comment. I agree with so much and will not go into...
merritt spencer
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Nov 7, 2001 1:56 am
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I think this spiritualization of Revelation is suspect and the reasoning
offered here escapes me. Jesus is the firstborn from the spiritually
dead? He died a...
How is Jesus the first born from physcial death since He raised others from physical death before He died physically?...
merritt spencer
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Nov 7, 2001 3:10 pm
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At 09:09 AM 11/7/01 -0600, you wrote: How is Jesus the first born from physcial death since He raised others from physical death before He died physically? I...
