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The speakers are practically in the room corners with what I'd judge to be about 30 to 40 degrees of separation from the listening seat.  Not my idea of an ideal set up for any speakers, much less speakers with omni bass and probably lots of soundstage depth capability.   


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See: http://forums.avguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=4173 The speakers are practically in the room corners with what I'd judge to be about 30 to 40 degrees of...
Tom Mallin
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Aug 9, 2008
8:50 pm

There seems to the be a tradition of loudspeaker placement and listening location that puts things as you say, speakers near the walls, a long way from the...
Ted Rook
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Aug 10, 2008
12:27 am

While I absolutely agree in both the matter of what I like and the matter of what I think is in effect correct with the view below of how to listen--as I guess...
Robert Greene
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Aug 10, 2008
3:09 am

I'm not really sure there are these two camps. Or maybe "camp 1" is a tiny minority -- the number of 90-degree home setups I've seen is zero, and the number...
Hugh Pyle
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Aug 10, 2008
5:32 am

Just so we're clear, this is Robert Harley's set up, not Harry Pearson's. It also appears to be a dedicated audio/video room. Yes, for current commercial...
Tom Mallin
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Aug 10, 2008
1:57 pm

I think there is a lot of truth in the final sentence, I include myself as one so described. Ted...
Ted Rook
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Aug 10, 2008
7:22 pm

Apologies for confusing the two men's initial letters and thanks for the corrections. Ted...
Ted Rook
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Aug 10, 2008
10:43 pm

Some argumentation from camp 2 Roy Allison in his 1995 AES paper "Imaging and Loudspeaker Directivity: To ... You-are-There vs.They-are-Here "In a traditional...
Uli Brueggemann
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Aug 10, 2008
6:37 am

... Directivity: To ... the ... other ... arriving ... field) ... groups ... approximately ... part ... and also ... voices ... hall ... response") of ... the ...
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... Directivity: To ... the ... other ... arriving ... field) ... groups ... approximately ... part ... and also ... voices ... hall ... response") of ... the ...
abomwell Offline Send Email Aug 10, 2008
7:49 am

Al ??? I see two responses from you but no message inside except the original text. Can you explain? Uli...
Uli Brueggemann
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Aug 10, 2008
7:56 am

Sorry for the last two non-messages. I don't know what happend? Related to the idea of imaging, it would be interesting to know "how" composers "hear" their...
abomwell Offline Send Email Aug 10, 2008
8:07 am

Actually, this is incorrect in my opinion, that the composers do not hear in their inner ear the sound as it will blend in the hall. I am surprised that anyone...
Robert Greene
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Aug 10, 2008
3:47 pm

These are great points that make sense! Thanks, Al ... not ... am ... may ... sound ... of ... the ... to ... past ... actual ... would ... hear ... worry ... ...
abomwell Offline Send Email Aug 10, 2008
8:43 pm

Thank you Uli. I take a different view from both Beranek and Allison. This is probably familiar already I can't claim these are original thoughts. Beranek...
Ted Rook
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Aug 10, 2008
7:20 pm

... Indeed it is. Of course, sometimes what is on the recording turns out to stink pretty bad. But other times, it's just lovely! Ken Holder Just a Poor, Old,...
Ken Holder
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Aug 11, 2008
5:52 am

RH says his room is 14.5'W x 21'L x 9'H. He says his listening position is 7' from the back wall. Based on the tape markings on the floor and the Alexandria...
hoganbo Offline Send Email Aug 10, 2008
5:51 pm

Photos can be quite deceptive. For example, it really looked to me as though Tony was sitting a long way back from his speakers (in the photos in the tonycdk...
Robert Greene
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Aug 10, 2008
6:12 pm

If your dimensional assumptions are correct, then the subtended angle between the two speakers is about 44 degrees. If the angle between the speakers isn't...
Tom Mallin
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Aug 11, 2008
2:04 am

I'm wondering, if one is using measurements such as the Tact provides, one is safe in assuming that the optimal location for speakers in a room is the ...
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Aug 10, 2008
7:12 pm

For stereo reproduction, you need to place your speakers in such a way that the spatial qualities on the recordings are well reproduced. That is usually not...
Tom Mallin
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Aug 11, 2008
1:45 am

Thanks, Tom. I do care something about stereo-spatial presentation and have arrived at a set-up that does this well (90 degreee/near-field). Fortunately, I...
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Aug 11, 2008
8:15 pm

What do you mean by "improved the measurements significantly," Ned? Do you mean flatness of the graphed uncorrected response? Or do you mean how good it...
Tom Mallin
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Aug 11, 2008
8:57 pm

P.S.: Add: (8) Construct the target curve so that it lies below the measured unequalized response at all points. Never boost any frequency. ... What do you...
Tom Mallin
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Aug 11, 2008
9:03 pm

Hi Tom, Thanks very much for your reply and your suggestions for properly using the Tact for measurements. What I meant by improved measurements is that by...
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Aug 12, 2008
1:31 pm

Since I didn't see you say it, I'll just reiterate that to hear what the microphone is hearing and thus to make any target curve correction work correctly at...
Tom Mallin
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Aug 12, 2008
1:51 pm

Ok, Tom. When I do my 50 pulse average, I'll check my target curve and make sure it's below all peaks. Ned **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun...
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Aug 12, 2008
1:33 pm

The target curve should also be below all dips, or below the lowest spot in the curve if there is nothing you'd call a "dip." Below I'm copying what I wrote a...
Tom Mallin
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Aug 12, 2008
2:01 pm

Tom, don't fool yourself. You have to consider a correction as a relative correction first. An example: you have a perfect horizontal target curve. Thus the...
Uli Brueggemann
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Aug 12, 2008
2:34 pm
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