Happy birthday Blake, God your getting
old.<br><br>Mallon, and all; Sign up for the Free SunFood E-zine get
it here <a href=http://www.sunfood.net/index.html.
target=new>http://www.sunfood.net/index.html.</a> This is a
very good E-zine, and its FREE. This week had an
article on Hybrids and here it is;<br><br>- Most of the
foods found on the store shelves, even organic foods,
are <br>extremely hybridized, and must be eaten with
precaution, understanding <br>principles of balance and body
ecology. Hybridized fruit is too sweet <br>and less rich
in minerals. Hybridized foods are easier to overeat
<br>because they have lost some of their natural "barrier"
mechanism. Wild <br>or natural fruit give a distinct "taste
change" that clearly tell us <br>when to stop eating.
These foods then become astringent, bitter, or too
<br>harsh to continue eating. Understanding that we have
strayed away from <br>the wild, we must be more careful
when eating hybridized foods. <br><br>- Overeating of
any foods causes more problems than undereating of
<br>regular, cooked foods. Excess with any food: fruit, nuts,
seeds, fats, <br>salads, etc., will cause problems.
Undigested foods will ferment in the <br>gut and produce
poisons that will acidify us. <br><br>- Being overly
concerned with food, and/or not taking in consideration
<br>other factors of health, such as mental, social, and
spiritual aspects <br>of our lives, will cause great
imbalances, that are too often attributed <br>to diet.
<br><br>- Environmental factors play an important part in
the onset of disease. <br>A raw-foodist working at a
nuclear power plant is nobody's idea of a <br>healthy
lifestyle. Even though we may not have such exposure to
<br>dangerous pollutants, unseen toxins can come at play. When
designing a <br>healthy lifestyle that can work for us for
the rest of our lives, we <br>must also look at other
factors than diet such as: the air we breathe, <br>the
water we drink, the place where we live, the materials
in our house, <br>our clothing, etc. <br><br>I hope
that with what I have just written, you will be able
to find your <br>own answers to these questions.
<br><br>In case you haven't done it, I also recommend
reading the following <br>books <br><br>Conscious Eating,
by Dr. Gabriel
Cousins<br><a href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1556432852/sunfood02/
target=new>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1556432852/sunfood02/</a><br><\
br>Living Foods for Optimum Health, by Brian Clement
<br><a href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0761514481/sunfood02/
target=new>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0761514481/sunfood02/</a><br><\
br>The Sunfood Diet Success System, by David
Wolfe<br><a href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0965353362/sunfood02/
target=new>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0965353362/sunfood02/</a><br><\
br>"Sick and Tired! Reclaiming your Inner Terrain," Dr.
Robert O. Young
<br><a href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1580540562/sunfood02/
target=new>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1580540562/sunfood02/</a><br><\
br><br>enjoy; Doug

--- JOEL FUHRMAN, M.D. ON VEGANS AND
B-12:<br><br> In recent years the evidence has become
irrefutable--the<br>majority of long-term vegans develop elevations
in<br>methylmalonic acid (MMA), documenting damage to
nervous<br>tissue from B12 deficiency. I have already seen
multiple<br>hygienic/vegans with paralysis and nerve damage from
B12<br>deficiency and others with heart damage from B12 deficiency.
<br><br> Furthermore, the high folate content of the diet
masks<br>the macrocytic anemia that physicians expect to see
in B12<br>deficiency. It is entirely irresponsible
for a health<br>professional not to recommend B12
supplementation in some<br>form or frequent monitoring of MMA
with blood tests for<br>those who do not consume any
animal products in their<br>diets. No controversy
exists.<br> <br> No unsupplemented plant food has adequate
B12 to assure<br>adequacy. However, our B12 needs are
very small. One<br>multivitamin or one B12 supplement
(lowest dose available<br>is still overkill) per week
will do it. <br><br> The only reason a person would
need more would be in<br>pernacious anemia (a lack of
intrinsic factor.) In that<br>unusual condition, patients
need larger doses of B12,<br>monthly injections or B12
1000 multiple times per week.--<br>Excerpted from a
posting on Dr. Fuhrman's Online
Forum<br><br><a href=http://www.DrFuhrman.com/
target=new>http://www.DrFuhrman.com/</a>

I seem to recall that Vegemite is a good source
for B-12 and that it would be acceptable to vegans,
although it might not qualify as raw? Does anyone know for
sure if that's the case? It seems like a fairly simple
solution to the problem for those who don't consume meat
and especially those who also don't like taking
supplements<br><br>Doug, I signed up for the eZine from Sunfoods. For
those interested, I was unable to link to the
.../index.HTML link in Doug's message. But I did link to
www.sunfoods.net and was able to sign up there. So try that if
you're interested.<br><br>So are there any good methods
to avoiding hybridized foods? It sounds like the
only way is to take long walks in the woods and look
for wild fruit. A person would be pretty darn skinny
doing that in my neck of the woods.<br><br>Mallon

Dear raw fooders,<br><br>As I was searching for
nutrition journal articles I decided to see what I could
find in the area of raw foods, I was actually able to
find nine. The following are the titles of the
studies, if anyone wants more information about any of the
studies just ask and I can post
it.<br><br>Blake<br><br>1. An uncooked vegan diet shifts the profile of
human fecal microflora: Computerized analysis of direct
stool sample gas-liquid chromatography profiles of
bacterial cellular fatty acids.<br><br>2. Vitamin B-12
status of long-term adherents of a strict uncooked vegan
diet ("living food diet") is compromised.<br><br>3.
Antioxidant status in long-term adherents to a strict
uncooked vegan diet.<br><br>4. Coumarin 7-hydroxylation in
long-term adherents of a strict uncooked vegan
diet.<br><br>5. Divergent changes in serum sterols during a
strict uncooked vegan diet in patients with rheumatoid
arthritis.<br><br>6. Dental erosions in subjects living on a raw food
diet.<br><br>7. Consequences of a long-term raw food diet on body
weight and menstruation: results of a questionnaire
survey.<br><br>8. Metabolic vitamin B-12 status on a mostly raw
vegan diet with follow-up using tablets, nutritional
yeast, or probiotic supplements<br><br>9. Vegan Diet and
Rheumatoid Arthritis.

hi<br>      Yes just post all the info<br>                              Thanks
<br>                                   Tom

16 raw diet relates study abstracts??<br><br>If you do reply with your email
address, or email me, and I will email it to you!!<br><br>Blake

Blake,<br><br>I read the abstracts and found most
to have positive conclusions about raw food. Only
negatives I noticed were the concern about weight loss
(debatable) and B-12 and dental cavities. Seems to me B-12 is
easy to supplement, and brushing your teeth more often
would offset any concerns about tooth decay.<br><br>A
couple of articles I didn't understand the point. E.g.
the comments about fecal bacteria being different in
raw fooders, I didn't get the significance of. In
other words, I didn't understand if the authors were
asserting that's a good or bad thing.<br><br>I found the
ones about rheumatoid arthritis sufferers showing
improvment to be interesting, although the authors took
pains to note their improvement was mainly subjective
rather than objectively measurable.<br><br>Did you read
anything that concerned you?<br><br>Mallon

It seems that rheumatoid arthritis is due to the acidity levels on blood.
Normally, most proteic food can cause acidity on blood. Nuts too.

Can you say, "urban legend" ?

I'm new to raw & am ready to invest in
appliances. I'd like a juicer, but don't know if i need a
separate one if i get a vitamix. if i get a vitamix, do i
need a food processor??? any advice would be
appreciated. thanks!

Dear Galapugust,<br><br>I would be pleased to receive your raw food abstracts
at:<br><br>falstaff@...<br><br>Thanks very much,<br>Victor.

You definitely do not need a food processor. I
have never used one and never plan to get
one.<br><br>Idealy we would use no appliances and eat 100% whole
foods, remember juices are refined foods, but I can see
a benefit of juicing vegetables, not fruits, as
most people do not eat enough of the right veggies for
good nutrition such as dark leafy greens. Dark leafy
greens are very nutrient dense per calorie but they are
so low calorie density that you need to eat a lot of
them, maybe 1 or even 2 pounds a day.<br><br>A juicer
is by no means essential by any means.<br><br>I
don't know about different juicers sorry.<br><br>Blake

Thanks, Blake, for the advice. i will consider going 100% raw 100%.  i think
there is something to a very simplistic approach.<br><br>Micha

Misha,<br><br>You're probably smart to try and
get the raw food thing going first before you spend a
lot of money on juicers, processors, etc. It's human
nature to spend money on the gadgets looking for
salvation, then oftentimes they collect dust and take up
space.<br><br>But if you decide to get a juicer, I highly recommend
the Champion Juicer brand. I originally had another
brand (Miracle Juicer mfg in Poland) that was touted as
easy to clean - 1 minute. I paid $125 for it, but it
was not heavy duty, and worse it takes about 15
minutes to clean each time.<br><br>A friend turned me on
to Champion. He bought one in 1975 and it still
works! I bought one off the internet about a year ago
for $190 and have been real happy with it. It's got a
powerful motor and only take about 2-3 minutes to clean
after each use (clean it or any juicer immediately
after use for easier cleanup).<br><br>I have read one
complaint about Champion juicers that claim that it
sometimes heats up whatever you're juicing and may destroy
some enzymes in the process. On average, enzymes are
destroyed at 117 degrees farenheit (there's a little
variability either way as a function of temperature and time
at that temperature). I've found that, although the
machine gets a little warm juicing hard items like
carrots, it has never produced juice warmer than luke warm
(well below 117 degrees) and I doubt any significant
enzyme loss occurs.<br><br>Good luck on your quest, and
with whatever juicer you may eventually
buy.<br><br>Mallon

I would like some abstract...selenium@...<br><br>Mike

Where does one get the seeds and nuts to sprout?
You mean you can just walk into a health food store
and ask for almonds and rice that can be sprouted?
Please help me...<br><br> Mike

The following article released today by the
media:<br><br>Wednesday May 23 1:14 PM ET <br><br> Bacteria Study Gives
New Meaning to 'Dirty Money'<br><br> By E. J.
Mundell<br><br> ORLANDO (Reuters Health) - A dollar may not go as
far as it used to, but it could buy you a trip to<br>
your local hospital.<br><br> ``Paper currency is
commonly contaminated with bacteria and this may play a
role in the transmission<br> of potentially harmful
organisms,'' concludes Dr. Peter Ender of the Medical Center
at<br> Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. Findings
from his study into the true filthiness of
``filthy<br> lucre'' were presented here Wednesday at the
annual meeting of the American Society for<br>
Microbiology.<br><br> It stands to reason that paper money, passed
hand-to-hand dozens of times a day, might pick up some<br>
bacteria along the way. But just how dirty is our money?
To find out, Ender asked cashiers at two<br> Dayton,
Ohio retail outlets--a concession stand at a high
school sports event and a grocery store--to<br> exchange
68 old one-dollar bills for crisp new ones. They
then took the old bills back to the lab for<br>
analysis.<br><br> According to Ender, 64 (94%) of the bills were
contaminated with bacteria known to cause either<br> serious
or mild illness. ''Five bills (7%) were found to be
contaminated with bacteria which can cause<br> infections in
healthy people,'' he reported. Those bacteria included
Staphylococcus aureus and<br> Klebsiella pneumoniae, both of
which can cause pneumonia or blood
infections.....<br><br>Mallons comments: To all concerned citizens, please send
me your dirty money to help contain this plague.
I'll convert those obnoxious notes to raw food to
increase my immune system health so I don't have to worry
about such nonsense articles. I'm also banking on raw
food to prevent me developing dementia, the kind of
disease which causes wannabe scientists to go looking up
each others butts for menancing bacteria and
unnecessarily scaring the general populace. The stronger these
microscopes get, the more stupid applications they find for
them. I saw one bacteria hunter covered by Time
magazine check public toilets, kitchen sinks and salad
bars. His conclusion was the toilets were ok, the
kitchen sink was filthy and God forbid you ever eat fresh
salad from a public restaurant. P.S. I saw his
photograph and he looked like crap. 'Nough said! Go ahead,
irradiate the money supply. Just leave our fresh food out
of this!

Hey Mike-<br><br>I don't think you can sprout any
nuts. I do soak mine though, minus macadamias and pine
nuts. Seeds are obviously sproutable and you can get
them in the health food store. Rice and other grains
are sproutable and can also be found in health food
stores. Good luck. -Micha

Mallon, thanks. I've also been recommended Green
Power, which though is a bit out of my price range.
People seem to like the Champion as well. <br><br>I have
really been enjoying raw food preparation and I think I
am going to get a food processor and dehydrator as
well. <br><br>I hope they don't end up sitting and
collecting dust! -Micha

When I first went raw, I went out and bought a Green Power jucer, a processor,
and a dehydrator.They are all collecting dust now, but its RAW dust.<br><br>Doug

Yes... my dehydrator is collecting dust too.  I use my green power juicer all
the time.  My latest favorite contraption is a Orange X citrus juicer.  Love
that fresh OJ in the morning.

Leafy,<br><br>You have got to tell me about your
orange juicer. I love fresh, unpasteurized OJ but it is
hard to find and expensive. When I was in Toronto
once, I went to a sandwich shop that had a machine you
dropped oranges into and out came juice. I've never seen
one in the USA.<br><br>What did yours cost, and what
brand is it, etc.? And how easy/difficult is it to use
and clean up afterwards and do you recommend
it?<br><br>Thanks, Mallon

<a href=http://www.vegsource.com/harris/raw_vs_cooked.htm
target=new>http://www.vegsource.com/harris/raw_vs_cooked.htm</a>

I am beginning the long process of my senior
project, and I have decided<br> that I want to do an
activist magazine. I would like to model it after the<br>
format<br> (not content) of Bust, where each issue has a
theme. The theme for my first<br> issue<br> is going to
be food and politics. The reason I am writing you is
because I<br> wanted<br> to see if any of you would be
interested in entering submissions. This could<br> include
photos, drawings, well-reported articles, poetry and
essays. You can<br> write about anything that relates to
food, and if you have an idea you can<br> e-mail<br> or
call me so we could talk about it. The following is a
list of subjects I<br> hope<br><br> to cover, let me
know if any of them interest you.<br><br> 1. Body
Issues (Anorexia, Bulimia, Fat Activism etc.)<br> 2.
Starvation/Prosperity a global look a food and who has access to
food<br> 3. Genetically engineered food<br> 4. Food life
style choices (Vegetarianism, Veganism, Raw Foodism
etc.)<br> 5. Coffee/Free Trade<br> 6. Nutrition and
Health<br> 7. Fast Food (a good reference is a book called
Fast Food Nation)<br> 8. Food Service from the servers
point of view<br> 9. Who grows our food?<br> 10.
Gourmet...what qualifies? What is it?<br> 11. Food for medicinal
purposes<br><br> Thanks for your time and consideration. I hope to
hear from you soon.<br><br><br> (510) 763-6629<br>
gromit@...

So, how many of you are 100% raw that have dusty
appliances? Mostly my cravings are for carbs, like pasta and
rice, BUT when I have raw breads and crackers around,
the cravings aren't there. <br>Talk to me,
experienced raw foodists. is it really a waste? My goal is to
be 100% raw. Please share with me your opinions on
the best approach to this goal. Thanks! -MichaShines

How do these work? Does it allow you to just drop
in citrus fruits with the rinds? I've juiced oranges
in the little juiceman but i guess they were always
peeled. insight appreciated. gracias. <br><br>michashines
:)

Mallon,<br>This juicer does not juice the peel.  You cut the orange in half then
press it.<br>I love it.  Takes 15 seconds to clean.<br><a
href=http://www.orangex.com/us/ target=new>http://www.orangex.com/us/</a>

MichaShines, <br>There is supposedly a
'transition' phase of going raw where complicated recipes can
be prepared and eaten. Like the recipes in the "Raw
Gourmet" uncook book. These recipes require the fancy
kitchen equipment - dehydrator, food processor, etc.
<br>My body quickly sickened of these excessively
complex dishes. They actually give me a stomache ache.
Simple fruits, veggies, nut, and seeds are the only way
I eat now. Tho I love juice. I sustain myself on
it. I have the Orange X
juicer:<br><a href=http://www.orangex.com/us/
target=new>http://www.orangex.com/us/</a><br>And the Green
Power:<br><a href=http://www.greenlife.com/
target=new>http://www.greenlife.com/</a><br><br>I have heard a good Vitamix
Blender makes fresh
juice as well as raw soups. It seems to me the Vitamix
may be your first purchase.

Did your stomach ever blow up as if it were stuffed?<br>Perhaps it is because
the fibre of the fruit...<br>Anything to say?<br>See you later !

that happens to me when I eat too many fiber rich grains....