Dear All,

I did not expect a discussion on this forum about Telangana /samaikya Andhra as
moderators usually do not allow debates of a political nature. Thanks for making
an exception this time.

For what its worth, I have blogged about this issue at:
http://kumarsbol.blogspot.com/

My take: A new SRC, followed by public debate of its recommendations is a
sensible way to approach the issue of small states. However, small states do
not necessarily correlate with better governance. The problem lies primarily
with the broken nature of district, mandal and village level local governance.

cheers,
Kumar




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From: mohammed hussain ali syed <mailsyedhyd@...>
To: racchabanda@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 12:45:52 PM
Subject: Re: [racchabanda] Re: Telangana

 
Writer must know the big difference .. GAP between 1969 and 2009.

Anyone's writings something on a issue the contents are purely basing on his
mental maturity and social involvement. Much of 70% 3 star to 5
star growth oriented businesses are owned by Andhra people in Twin cities
today ((employees of these businesses includes both KCR homeland (i dont want
to use their seperate state name) and from Andhra region. )).

Basing on these separatists comments like.. Andhra Waallani Lungilu ooda
deesi parigistamu. .. etc etc what about their future.. what about
their efforts to reach this stage etc etc will be a big question. 

Information Technology and Agriculture ... Parents - From whom the Andhra
people born are well settled and continuously contributing their efforts in twin
cities for growth of Andhra Pradesh.

So, all these has to be considered and the loss of each individual.. . each
individual by visiting his home and recording his comments.. then the
writer has to write something.

Otherwise, these uneducated man's comments are ignorable.

Regards,
 
Syed Hussain
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

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From: J. K. Mohana Rao <jkmrao@yahoo. com>
To: racchabanda@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 7:22:23 PM
Subject: Re: [racchabanda] Re: Telangana

Telangana isn’t scary!

Nice article here.  Anybody can throw more light and some of its contents about
the book mentioned in this article?  Regards!  -  mOhana

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Telangana-isn-t-scary/H1-Article1-485141.aspx

 

     

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--- In racchabanda@yahoogroups.com, "cvenella" <csrinivas@...> wrote:

> Practically speaking, separate State may bring any great changes in the
day-to-day lives of ordinary people. But what a separate State will make a
tangible difference is in guaranteeing certain amount of water resources and
economic resources for development of the region. And maybe, maybe a promise of
preserving Telangana language and identity. Both are not insignificant, by any
means. Even after discounting for the corrupt and incompetence of any new
administration - think, people will get more than what they are today.  For this
reason - many like me, were reluctantly, forced to support the separate State
slogan. Today, I am not convinced no other option offers this promise.
>

> So, the question I am unable to find satisfying answer to is -
> Why is that, even after many corrective legislations in place, the same issues
have cropped up again and again? Is it purely because of the "corrupt" and
"selfish" politicians and bureaucracy, as the author reduces it to, or there is
some thing else?
>

I do not disagree with many points that Srinivas garu made. However, I still
fail to understand how a separate state changes the status quo.

Consider this: There was a gentlemen's agreement, a six point formula, and so
on, that were never implemented. In the past 50 years, was there ever an
unanimous resolution or a demand by the 40% of the legislature (roughly the
strength from Telangana region) to implement them, only to be overridden by the
rest of the legislators? Was it ever followed up with the same fervor as the
separate state movement?

If the Telangana legislators were 'bought' by the 'Andhra politicians', what
makes them immune for a similar enticement in a separate state? Why haven't the
separate state movement leaders ever tried to light fire under the seats of the
legislators of the region to force the implementation of the agreements? What
TRS could never even come close to, the TPS did in 1971 by winning 11
parliamentary seats in Telangana (78%!) during the mid-term elections. That was
viewed by most as a referendum. What followed is history. If the one who was not
even elected could make them jump the ship and ignore the basis for their
election, a separate state would change their hearts?

What is going to be different when a separate state is carved? If not the
Telangana region, it will be northern vs Eastern, Western, or Southern Telangana
that faces the discrimination. Whether you keep it as one state or divide it
into three states, as long as the politicians/leaders representing the area do
not act in the best interest of their electorate, history is going to repeat
itself. If the separate movement leaders are altruistic about the development of
the region and well-being of its people, they have not demonstrated anything in
that direction yet. If any, they have been openly cavalier in their attitude by
ignoring the right questions and igniting mass hysteria.

No one genuinely interested in the well-being of Telangana people would oppose a
separation, if that is well thought out and has a reasonable chance of success
at least in theory rather than sheer utopia. A good civil discussion to identify
the root causes and an approach to resolve them in the most amicable way is what
is needed rather than simple rabble rousing. Perhaps there were discussions and
the plan is well thought out but to my knowledge there was no attempt to
generate as much fervor in holding their leaders accountable for their failure
to implement the agreements. May be they are not as sexy or advantageous to the
leaders.

Krishna Rao

--- In racchabanda@yahoogroups.com, "cvenella" <csrinivas@...> wrote:
>
>
> Practically speaking, separate State may bring any great changes in the
day-to-day lives of ordinary people.

Sorry for the typo. The sentence should read....
Practically speaking, separate State may NOT bring any great changes in the
day-to-day lives of ordinary people.

--- In racchabanda@yahoogroups.com, "J. K. Mohana Rao" <jkmrao@...> wrote:
>
> Here is an article by Jayaprakash Narayan on Telengana.  Interesting to note
that some points raised by Krishna Rao gAru five years ago are mentioned here
also.
>
> Nineteenth Century politics over Telangana
>
>
> http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2009/12/12/stories/2009121250290800.htm
>
> Regards!  -  mOhana
>

Interesting question. Why is that people seem to resort to 19th century politics
in 21st century. Are they so irrational?

And Interesting reasoning. Misgovernance, "local" politicians, bureaucrats are
the problem.
Not any issues related to resource sharing, regional imbalances, power
relations,
not vested interests  and not institutionalized biases. Separatism shouldn't be
the answer.

It is interesting that the author doesn't even bother to talk about
why and how corrective legislations/processes  put in place to compensate for
regional imbalances
(be it Gentleman's agreement, 610 GO, six-point formula) have been consistently
violated. And how "local" politicians incompetence alone can explain the
discrimination in water sharing or the non-completion of irrigation and
infrastructure projects in the region.
So, all we get for a solution is - Growth, decentralization, empowerment, equity
of opportunities - lots of noble and glossy words, but nothing in concrete to
solve the issues fueling
separatism. And most importantly, nothing to challenge the status quo.

[ I find it similar to the love for improved school education amongst middle
class intellgensia whenever the issue of Dalit/OBC reservations flares up.
Reservations don't solve the problems, the right solution is improve the basic
education, rural economy etc. Fair enough. Nothing to disagree with. But slowly,
you start to realize that all this lip service for noble thoughts is to
sidetrack the issue at hand -  in practice, to maintain the status quo ].

And also seem to base his argument on the hope that, just because the united
state has more resources, they will be shared and get used for common good. 
Think there is enough evidence out there, from within the state and other
states,  to show that this assumption need not be true.

And for some one who seem to promote decentralization, I find it ironic that
that the author is bogged down by on how it effects the Hyderabad investments
(as if overnight being part of State A or State B makes it unattractive to live
or invest in, or the people don't feel
comfortable to reside there anymore). And even presents a new and strange
argument that two of three regions have no resources  and primarily are
dependent on other region resources for a viable existence. And pooh-poohs any
irrigation projects, in these regions, as being wasteful. I wish he writes the
same in telugu newspapers too, for us to atleast to hear the counter arguments.

Certainly, like many, I too believe that if there was some forward-looking
governance by the governments of around five decades - things wouldn't have
taken such a polarizing and sharp turn. Yes,  things shouldn't come to this end
- if there was responsible governance and politics.

But again, after repeated disappointments, what choices are the people of
Telangana are left with. Or for that matter, tomorrow some other "backward"
region?

Practically speaking, separate State may bring any great changes in the
day-to-day lives of ordinary people. But what a separate State will make a
tangible difference is in guaranteeing certain amount of water resources and
economic resources for development of the region. And maybe, maybe a promise of
preserving Telangana language and identity. Both are not insignificant, by any
means. Even after discounting for the corrupt and incompetence of any new
administration - think, people will get more than what they are today.  For this
reason - many like me, were reluctantly, forced to support the separate State
slogan. Today, I am not convinced no other option offers this promise.

By no means, this is to agree with the polarizing language and logic of the
separatists of either side. (If I find the crude language of the separatist
crowd, also the slogan "Samkhya Andhra" for me today sounds more like a call for
status quo discrimination [similar to the "merit" slogan on reservation issue]
than a call for unity and equality of people).

Certainly, it will be a painful process for all of to go thru the separation
process, if that is the choice we end up with finally. As someone like me who
grew up the optimism of "Vishalandhra lo Prajarajyam", it is much more painful.
Telanganites cannot deny and have to respect the immense sacrifices and
contributions made by thousands from Andhra and Rayalseema in the fight against
Nizam. And to date, apart rich and influential - as it is their capital city -
millions of ordinary people have migrated from Andhra, Rayalseema to Hyderabad.
And also to Telangana small and big towns. Like anybody else, they too have
their day-to-day struggles and contribute in several ways (economical,
intellectual, social, cultural) to the larger society. And all of us, in all
three regions, share more than forty years of common history and struggles. So,
in that sense, it is a nervous time and very painful to be forced to go thru
this. As a friend from Rajamundry, supporting separate Telangana, emails,
"...But it is heart-wrenching to those of us who share affinity with both
regions.".

I wish there was a progressive movement fighting for the rights of all the
backward regions. If I have to work with the choices we have,
atleast the movement for separate state - despite having a strong moral
legitimacy - should have done a better job in arguing from a progressive and
broad human rights and development rights perspective of the people of
Telangana. What I mean is, if done right, many more fair-minded people from
Andhra and Rayalseema would have easily supported the cause. In my conscience,
fight for Telangana cause is diametrically opposite from that of any "sons of
soil" argument, like that of Raj Thackeray. As a developmental rights issue, it
is no different from that of dalits or women's struggles.

(When I first met Balagopal in 1998, he took me to the "Telangana Jana Sabha"
meeting, where he was a speaker. Then, I was not impressed with about their
separatist tone. I told him the same and he laughed. Later on, I remember the
articles he wrote about equitable sharing of water resources. He mooted a very
practical idea in 2002 - to create an independent authority, along the lines of
Bachawat Tribunal, to oversee the redistribution among the three regions in the
State. And warned that, inter-regional rivalry could crop up without a rational
redistribution of Krishna and Godavari waters.

It may be worth remembering that the current separatist movement has it's
beginnings in the wide-spread farmer suicides in late 90s...

And so I ask myself today - why is it that, sincere supporters of united AP
(including the ones on Left etc.) - atleast to take the steam out of the
separatist kind - have not positively fought to address the issues of
backwardness and development. Why is that they couldn't build enough awareness
amongst all of us to create a sense of unity and being to sensitive to the needs
and the cultures of each other?

]...

So, the question I am unable to find satisfying answer to is -
Why is that, even after many corrective legislations in place, the same issues
have cropped up again and again? Is it purely because of the "corrupt" and
"selfish" politicians and bureaucracy, as the author reduces it to, or there is
some thing else?

There may not to be anything common to discuss with folks who see this issue as
a purely property rights issue. And equally there is nothing to argue, except to
disagree, with folks who say that there is no regional backwardness or that the
differences are primarily because people from some regions are industrious
,culturally advanced and others are lazy, primitive etc. So, the discussion is
with the ones who seem to acknowledge the facts and say yes, that there are
disparities; and that there is economical backwardness in Telangana areas -
along with in Northern Andhra and Rayalaseema. And are ready to go beyond the
standard answers of that  "corrupt" politicians and bureaucrats or the "local
conditions" etc. For any one interested, I would refer to a non-partisan
analysis by Ch. Hanumantha Rao ,economist.

If it doesn't target and demonize ordinary people from any of the regions - as
separatist movements have a tendency to - why shouldn't the separate state
option be given a try?

That way, may be some time in the future, all telugu speaking people will feel
the need and be confident about recommitting to a common state on better
negotiating terms, rather than shot gun marriages and separations..

Srinivas

Dear Friends,
              In a hearing the solicitor General of India has submitted to the
honorable court that the the government is unable to control or to curb the
prostitution as it was an ancient institution in India. Then the honorable
judges have asked the Government " If you can not control it why can't you
legalize it and provide all Aminities like medical health Etc.That has taken me
in to a journey in to History.

             During the days of Mouryan Perid and Vijayanagara Empire
prostitution was a legalized profession.It is written in History that the
revenue derived for that profession as Tax was sufficient to meet the salaries
of the police department then. In Mythology also prostitutes enjoyed special
status as Devadassis.In Amukthmalyadaha SriKrishnadeva Raya described about the
prostitutes in thepoems" Vevina medapai vallabhi venika chanta vahinch
vippaga,"Savalayadhwani gaga sale veyu nadhalapu",and Alivachakarpanyam". He
said they were capable to write classics in south Indian Languages.That is also
correct becuase after him Muddupalani wrote "Radhika Swanthanamu" and Rangajamma
wrote "Mannarudasa Vilasamu" which were available now.Dhurjati was very soft and
concerned abot prostitutes.He says Rajardhathurudinacho---rupajeevalikinedi
dikku" Of course as times have passed that profession has changed and took a
different shape. The Soliciter General
  submitted to the SC that he will place the matter before the court.What will
happen we  have to wait and see.

                             Karavadi Raghava  Rao





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--- In racchabanda@yahoogroups.com, Padmaja G <padmajaavvaru@...> wrote:
>
> What I would like to know is how TRS got defeated in the elections
> but could impress the centre as in High Command(Yikes)in a matter
> of 11 days in getting a favorable response in the mid of the
> night.

  It pains to talk/reply. Firstly, extreme generousness of moderators to
  allow bringing in political party names here. We should remember all
  parties not just TRS, supported Telangana in elections and naturally
  votes get split to whoever they chose. (Even few days ago all parties
  declared support for resolution if tabled- ongoing drama now) I cringe
  to bring in names, but JP seems a rare species that at least speaks
  truth. Why don't folks speak what they do, and do what they speak?!

....
> We never had leaders or visionaries who lead the country to freedom
> and its high time experts looked at Indian Constitution !

  Agree fully. We have more eye specialists and few visionaries.
----------------------
  Regards
  -Srinivas

Here is an article by Jayaprakash Narayan on Telengana.  Interesting to note
that some points raised by Krishna Rao gAru five years ago are mentioned here
also.

Nineteenth Century politics over Telangana









http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2009/12/12/stories/2009121250290800.htm

Regards!  -  mOhana






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Lyla garu,

Glad you liked my articles. Thanks for your compliments.
"nA rAmuDu" link given by Sayee garu works fine. You have to click the
"Chapters" link in that page (not the "nA rAmuDu" link). You can see the content
properly only in IE, not in Firefox.

regards,
Kameswara Rao.

Hatsoff Hanuma gAru! It is really very inspiring. It reminded me of the poem:
#
AraMbhiMparu nIca mAnavulu vighnayAsasaMtrastulai
AraMbhimci parityajiMtu ruru vighnAyattulai madhyamul
dhIrul vighnanihanyamAnulagucun dhRtyunnatOtsAhulai
prArabdArthamu lujjagimparu sumI praj~nA nidhul gAvunan
#

regards,
Kameswara Rao

--- In racchabanda@yahoogroups.com, "Hanuma Kodavalla" <hanumak@...> wrote:
>
> Even at the risk of sounding self-promoting, I want to share my excitement
> with others as I have referred to this project before. I've long dreamed of
> having a library in my village, Ravinuthala. I'm happy to announce that I
> sponsored building one, named after my late father Kodavalla Venkateswarlu,
> and it is nearing completion!

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>

Writer must know the big difference .. GAP between 1969 and 2009.

Anyone's writings something on a issue the contents are purely basing on his
mental maturity and social involvement. Much of 70% 3 star to 5
star growth oriented businesses are owned by Andhra people in Twin cities
today ((employees of these businesses includes both KCR homeland (i dont want
to use their seperate state name) and from Andhra region. )).

Basing on these separatists comments like.. Andhra Waallani Lungilu ooda
deesi parigistamu... etc etc what about their future.. what about
their efforts to reach this stage etc etc will be a big question. 

Information Technology and Agriculture ... Parents - From whom the Andhra
people born are well settled and continuously contributing their efforts in twin
cities for growth of Andhra Pradesh.

So, all these has to be considered and the loss of each individual... each
individual by visiting his home and recording his comments.. then the
writer has to write something.

Otherwise, these uneducated man's comments are ignorable.

Regards,
 
Syed Hussain
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.




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From: J. K. Mohana Rao <jkmrao@...>
To: racchabanda@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 7:22:23 PM
Subject: Re: [racchabanda] Re: Telangana

Telangana isn’t scary!

Nice article here.  Anybody can throw more light and some of its contents about
the book mentioned in this article?  Regards!  -  mOhana

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Telangana-isn-t-scary/H1-Article1-485141.aspx








 






     

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Priyamaina andariki,



Mana rastranni manam kapadukundam. Mukkalu kanivvaddu.

http://www.petitiononline.com/1andhra/

e-mail ni forward cheandi please.


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Mohammed Hussain Ali Syed garu :
 
You are a very sensitive person.Telugus  dont have any pride in their
language ,music or literature or their culture.I think its true in a great
extent not just to telugus but all Indians .
Indians dont learn their lessons and national integration is something that they
talk about.
All talk ,no action.
 
Regards,
 
Padmaja
--- On Wed, 12/9/09, mohammed hussain ali syed <mailsyedhyd@...> wrote:


From: mohammed hussain ali syed <mailsyedhyd@...>
Subject: [racchabanda] With deep sorrow....
To: racchabanda@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:02 PM


 



On this minute...

No words to express ....

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=lkcJyVbYtiY

Regards and Good luck from...

A Heart broken family....

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Interesting ! What I would like to know is how TRS got defeated in the elections
but could impress the centre as in High Command(Yikes)in a matter of 11 days in
getting a favorable response in the mid of the night.Funny ,does she even have
any authority to be the decision maker for such an important constitutional
change ?High Command ?Are we in Germany?Adolf Hitler is now Sonial Gandhi as in
"High command"?Who knows ,its India and this is what Indians do to India.Lets
invite British !
 
Telengana is backward ,so is Srikakulam,many parts of Andhra and most parts of
Rayalaseema.Just because a political figure as in KCR who lost  in
Telengana,threatens to go on hunger strike,flares up emotions and couple of
thousand student take to streets ,that somehow gives the right to High Command
and 2 more people to decide to break up a state and that too in the mid of the
night ?And what audacity so many have to say its her birthday present ! Is India
really a democracy ?Veerappa Moily ,from Karnataka and Chidambaram from
Tamilnadu and High Command get to decide with the core committee ?Who are the
members on the core committee and in what way legally speaking is this so
called "high command" has the right to make the decision?Hello ,do we a PM ,the
puppet in the High Command`s hands somewhere in India ?Is India one of the
largest democracies of the world or just a feudal society?Who are the vested
interests here and what is that we really dont
  know in this whole mess ! We never had leaders or visionaries who lead the
country to freedom and its high time experts looked at Indian Constitution ! I
hear the words "adhishTAnam" and "high command ",less said the better what I
really feel like.Something like ,Yikes !
 
Padmaja

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From: J. K. Mohana Rao <jkmrao@...>
Subject: Re: [racchabanda] Re: Telangana
To: racchabanda@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 10:22 AM


 



Telangana isn’t scary!

Nice article here.  Anybody can throw more light and some of its contents about
the book mentioned in this article?  Regards!  -  mOhana

http://www.hindusta ntimes.com/ Telangana- isn-t-scary/ H1-Article1- 485141.aspx

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--- In racchabanda@yahoogroups.com, Vadrevu Murthy <vadrevumurthy@...> wrote:
>
> Decease must be cured by diagnostic analysis ----   why people are demanding
separate states. How a separate state helps people ---- jobs, standard of
living, productivity, growth


Here is one diagnostic analysis that was posted on RB in 2004:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racchabanda/message/8640

Krishna Rao (again!)

Telangana isn’t scary!

Nice article here.  Anybody can throw more light and some of its contents about
the book mentioned in this article?  Regards!  -  mOhana

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Telangana-isn-t-scary/H1-Article1-485141.aspx

















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--- In racchabanda@yahoogroups.com, Vadrevu Murthy <vadrevumurthy@...> wrote:
>
> Disease must be cured by diagnostic analysis ----   why people are
> demanding separate states. How a separate state helps people ----
> jobs, standard of living, productivity, growth in the revenue of
> state after expenses of the government etc

  This is the most thoughtful response I read so far amidst much
  emotional outbursts.

  How many writers analyse it and which singer sings diagnosis, and
  what poet dares to describe causes?! Except one or two, where are the
  leaders that ask such questions?! These are the days of numerous
  books on leadership more than ever before in human history, and too
  few leaders.

  All said, formation of states is a means, not end, for development.
  ----------------
  Regards
  -Srinivas

#
drAviDa ChaMdassulO konni viSEshAlu

ee rOju drAviDa ChaMdassulOni konni mukhya vishayAlanu, viSEshAlanu mIku
chebutAnu. reMDuvEla saMvatsarAla kAlaMlO avicChinnaMgA tamiLa sAhityaM mUDu
puvvulu aa~ru kAyalu kAstunnAyi. tamiLamulO moTTamodaTi vyAkaraNa SAstra
graMthamaina tolgAppiyaMlO ChaMdassu elA vrAyAlO anE vishayaM vivariMcabaDinadi.
taruvAta amRtasAgarulu vrAsina yApparuMgalaMlO ee vishayAlu iMkA vivaraMgA
vivariMcabaDinAyi. migilina bhAratIya bhAshalalOni ChaMdassulu saMskRta namUnAnu
tIsikoni vATiki dESIyatanu kalpiMchAyi. kAni tamiLa ChaMdassu svataMtraMgA
vardhilliMdi.  konni padAla vivaraNanu kriMda istunnAnu.

ChaMdassu - chaMdaM, yAppu
gaNamu - SIr
aksharamu -  eLuttu
yati - mOnai
prAsa - edugai
pAdamu - aDi
toDai - alaMkAramu (toDugu anE padaM ee toDainuMDi puTTinadE)
accu - uyir eLuttu (jIvAksharamu)
hallu - mey eLuttu (nijAksharamu)
padyamu - pA
vRttamu - viruttaM

saMskRtamulO, migilina bhAshalalO ChaMdassu guru laghuvulapaina aadhArapaDinadi.
kAni tamiLamulO adi aSai paina aadhArapaDinadi. aSai reMDu vidhAlu - nEraSai SIr
, niraiyaSai SIr. nEraSai oka guruvu lEka oka laghuvu. niraiyaSai eppuDU
laghuvutO prAraMbhamavutuMdi. anagA idi lagamu  (laghuvu-guruvu) lEka lalamu
(reMDu laghuvulu). oka guruvu lEka reMDu laghuvulanu aadhAraM chEsikoni brahma
(sUrya), vishNu (iMdra), rudra (chaMdra) gaNAlu puTTAyO adE vidhaMgA ee nEraSai,
niraiyaSai nuMDi gaNAlanu sRshTiMcavaccu. nEraSainu oka gItatO (-) niraiyaSainu
reMDu gItalatO (#=#) gurtiMcaDamu vADuka. maroka vishayaM. manaku pA, pal, pAl
ivannI guruvulu.  vITini pratyEkamugA gurtiMcamu. kAnI tamiLamulO ivannI vEru
vEru SIrulu.

reMDu aSai SIrulu -
tEmA - -, kUviLaM - #=#, puLimA #=# -, karuviLaM #= =#
 
vITiki kramENA - chEristE manaku kAy^ SIrulu labhistAyi. adE vidhamugA vITiki
#=# chEristE kani SIrulu labhistAyi. ilA manaku mUDu aSai SIrulu puTTutAyi.
alAgE 16 vidhamulaina nAlugu aSai SIrulu labhistAyi. oka gaNamu maroka gaNamutO
chErE vidhAnAnni taLai aMTAru. modaTi gaNapu chivari SIr reMDava gaNapu modaTi
SIr okE vidhamugA uMTE (  - - lEka #= =#) dAnini oN~riya taLai (sAmya saMdhi)
aMTaru. avi vEruvErugA uMTE (- #=# lEka #=# -) dAnini oN~rAda (bhinna saMdhi)
aMTAru.

toDai anEdi alaMkAramu. aMdulO modaTidi prathamAkshara yati. reMDavadi edugai.
idi dvitIyAkshara prAsa. iyaipu anEdi aMtyaprAsa.  muran anEdi dhvanipaina
aadhArapaDinadi
kAdu. idi padAlalOni vairuddhyamupaina aadhArapaDinadi (pedda, chinna ityAdulu)
chivarigA aLapEDai anEdi accu kAnI hallu kAni okE kAlavyavadhilO
uccariMcabaDEdigA uMDAli.

a, aa, ai, au laku, i, ee, e, ae laku, u, oo, o, oe laku yati chellutuMdi. cha,
ta laku, ma, va laku, na, ~ma laku, a ya laku, ri, rI, re, rE, li, lI, le, lE
laku yati chellutuMdi. okE pAdamulO okaTikaMTe ekkuva yatulu kUDA uMTAyi. konni
samayAlalO prAsayati kUDA uMTuMdi.  telugulO aksharasAmya yati tamiLamunuMDi
puTTinadani nA ooha.

anniTikaMTe drAviDa ChaMdassulO nAku nacchEdi aemaMTE padAlu gaNAlugA
viragaDamu. aMTE okE padamu reMDu gaNAlalO uMDavu.  dInivalla
SravaNasubhagatvamu siddhistuMdi. kannaDa telugu kavulu mAtrAgaNAlu vADETappuDu
kUDA ee niyamAnni pATiMcakapOvaDaM chiMtanIyamE.  aruNagirinAthar^ vaMTi kavulu
ChaMdassuku saMgItAniki nATyAniki avinAbhAva saMbaMdhAnni kaligiMchAru.  tamiLa
kavula padyAlu, vRttAlu nEDu kUDA daiva pUjalO oka bhAgamE.  telugu padyAlu
iMtagA vADutunnArA anEdi saMdEhamE.  

vidhEyuDu - jejjAla kRshNa mOhana rAvu
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--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Hanuma Kodavalla <hanumak@...> wrote:

> Even at the risk of sounding self-promoting, I want to share my
> excitement with others as I have referred to this project before. I've
> long dreamed of having a library in my village, Ravinuthala. I'm happy
> to announce that I sponsored building one, named after my late father
> Kodavalla Venkateswarlu, and it is nearing completion!

> I'll post the initial list of books we ordered - 2000 titles, two copies
> each. This might be of interest to book lovers and also those who want
> to do similar projects. Please suggest other titles.

Hats off Hanuma garu for making reality a magnanimous venture. I also wish
very much it sparks and spreads enthusiasm and support for even more.

What big government could not do for over sixty years, is done by
individual effort in few years. While US has no child left behind policy,
its hightime for India to have no village left behind policy.
-----------
Regards
-Srinivas

Decease must be cured by diagnostic analysis ----   why people are demanding
separate states. How a separate state helps people ---- jobs, standard of
living, productivity, growth in the revenue of state after expenses of the
government etc





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--- In racchabanda@yahoogroups.com, "Hanuma Kodavalla" <hanumak@...> wrote:
>
> Even at the risk of sounding self-promoting, I want to share my excitement
> with others as I have referred to this project before. I've long dreamed of
> having a library in my village, Ravinuthala. I'm happy to announce that I
> sponsored building one, named after my late father Kodavalla Venkateswarlu,

The project undertaken by sri Kodavalla hanumatharao garu to have a library in
his village is laudable.There is the great necessity to make  library facility
avaialable to rural literates.But the government or localbodies are not in a
position to create the facility in many villages due to pausity of
funds.Philonthrophers who are interested to promote the idea of inculacting 
reading habit among the rural folks may help to establish village libraries
taking queue from Sri Hanumantha rao garu.I thank Sri Hanumantharao garu for
having coordinated and mobilized all resources ,in addition to his personal
donation, in getting his longdreamt project completed.
Regards,
Jabalimuni

--- In racchabanda@yahoogroups.com, "Hanuma Kodavalla" <hanumak@...> wrote:

>
> Even at the risk of sounding self-promoting, I want to share my excitement...


# sebhAsh# H! Congratulations! Hope to read some books in that library. Make
sure there is a nice garden all around:-)

lyla

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mvmachavaram <mvmachavaram@...>

Even at the risk of sounding self-promoting, I want to share my excitement
with others as I have referred to this project before. I've long dreamed of
having a library in my village, Ravinuthala. I'm happy to announce that I
sponsored building one, named after my late father Kodavalla Venkateswarlu,
and it is nearing completion!



I thank:

.        Dr. Karusala Ramanjaneyulu, of SERC, Chennai, for drawing a plan
for the building

.        Members of Gautham Rural and Educational Development Society, in
particular, Moparthy Venkata Rao, Kanugala Vijaya Kumar, Karusala
Brahmanandam and Kodavalla Poorna Chandra Rao, for overseeing the
construction

.        The villagers, specially the teachers, for their encouragement

.        TANA Foundation for facilitating the sponsorship

.        Ramamohan Rao of Navodaya and Ravi Sarada of AP Library Association
for their help in procuring the books and training the librarian

.        And my family for letting me spend the time and the money



I'll post the initial  list of books we ordered - 2000 titles, two copies
each. This might be of interest to book lovers and also those who want to do
similar projects. Please suggest other titles.



Writer Chandra Latha will inaugurate the library on December 27th 2009. If
you plan to be in the area (my village is six miles from Medarametla which
is between Ongole and Guntur), you are welcome to attend the function.



Kodavalla Hanumantha Rao











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Dear Friends,
                   The Government of India has given green signal for starting
the process of formation of separate Telangana State.As a lover of Telugu
Language and Culture I am feeling very much for this unfortunate happening. But
what can not be cured must be endured. But this will open a Pandora's Box in
India  for similar demands.

                          Karavadi Raghva Rao

 





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--- In racchabanda@yahoogroups.com, mohammed hussain ali syed <mailsyedhyd@...>
wrote:
>
> Today our Andhra Putrulu are discremenating Sri Potti sri
> ramulu garu and demolishing his statues... Changing the names of
> Andhra Bank as Telangana Bank, Andhra Bhoomi as Telangana Bhoomi
> and even attacking Andhra Mess businesses to shutdown in
> Hyderabad. These are hurting a lot...
>
> Does anyone support todays acts of Andhra Putrulu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  No tax payer supports any violence, be it by people on properties,
  or by police on peaceful protests, whatever the cause(s).

  Please forgive me, but I never understood why we have statues!
  Unnecessarily we have statues, and then we complain some body is
  desecrating them. Bird and animals desecrate them all the time.
  Only on anniversaries or special days, we clean up bird droppings
  etc. from the statues! Isn't it?!

  True, there are statues like Lincoln Memorial and in all temples,
  but they are cared for and periodically cleaned, not once a year.
  If we can't care for color fading, cracks-forming, unclean and
  littered statues, isn't it better not to have them?!
  ============
  Regards
  -Srinivas

>
> --- On Sat, 12/5/09, lylayer <lylayfl@...> wrote:
> #
> > viSvanAtha "kalpavRksha rahasyamulu" caduvukuMTunnA....#

--- In racchabanda@yahoogroups.com, "Sesha Vadapalli \(VSTSayee\)"
<seshavadapalli@...> wrote:

> #vIri "nA rAmuDu"nu kriMdichOTa chaduvagalaru -
> #
> http://www.kamakoti.org/telugu2/24/index.html



# namastE! #  How are you! :-) Hope you saw some movies with good dialogue,
recently # SAyi gAru# .

I opened the link, but can't find the essay there. In the search to find it on
the net, I read couple of nice articles related to  # viSvanAtha/ kalpavRkshamu/
rAmuDu,#  by Kamesh ( # bhairava bhaTla #). Very nicely done. Love them.

I want to read # nA rAmuDu #. :-)  If legal, if some one has the PDF, can you
send it to me, please.  As such I want to buy the essays of  # viSvanAtha # - I
have to see where I left that conversation off,  with NavOdaya Ramamohana Rao
garu- and hopefully I can complete my collection of Visvanatha.

But first, trying to position myself in a city where Christmas jingle bells are
best heard, and New York seems to be a reasonably good place to be, unless I
find a better choice.

Saw the Christmas parade here in Naples - Can't believe how cutely,  the little
kids jingle their waists, in a parade. Every time they jiggle their waists and
buttocks, I don't know how many muscles go into action to bring out that joyous
movement - I have to look it up in Gray's anatomy- but I am all giggles. I did a
jig on the side street.

And flippant me, the parade girl, flip thru pages of  #  viSvanAtha - suMdara
kAmDa, # and pen;


Do not Disturb


#
niduriMcu dASarathi
oDilOne nEDu.
kanulu tericEvA
kanula kaluvala jaMTa
kanulu moosEvA kalalalO nIku
tuMgabhadrA taTI
nemali nATyAlaMTa!
nannu teliyakamuMdu
ennenni navvulO, nIvenni bhOgAlO,
nI cinanATi nAvalu, rathAlu
nI mAlimi gurrAlu
niduralO naDupukO!
nidura cerupu nIku kAnInulE
E kAki poDicina noppi teliyanInu
rommula madhya nIku rAgamE tOcEnu
melukuvana, kalalOna
nIku nAkU madhya rAgamE uMDanI
tIyagA niduriMcu nIvu dASaradhI.
#


lyla

#
kAmESvararAvu gArU,
 
tamiLamulO va-malaku, ta-chalaku yati (mOnai) cheluutuMdi.
 
vidhEyuDu - mOhana
#


 




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On this minute...

No words to express ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkcJyVbYtiY

Regards and Good luck from...

A Heart broken family....




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Now that the center has promised to initiate the process of diving Andhra
Pradesh, I hope the states to be carved out of it will have proper Telugu names.
And I hope at least one of them, my best hope is with Telangana and Rayalaseema,
will support Telugu language.

Regards,
Ari Sitaramayya.

--- In racchabanda@yahoogroups.com, Anil Kurnool <akurnool@...> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>

#
mOhanagArU,
 
maMci vishayAlani prastAviMcAru. I "ma" "va"la yati pAlkuriki sOmanAthuDu
basavapurANaMlO vEsinaTTugA kOvela saMpatkumArAcAryagAru telugu ChaMdOvikAsamulO
udahariMcAru. tikkana kUDA "Sramamu" anna padaMlO "ma"ki "va"tO yati
celliMcADaTa. kAni "Sramamu"ki "Sravamu" anna padaM rUpAMtaraMgA parishkartalu
grahiMcAraTa.
 
daMtya ca-kAraM vishayAniki vastE, I uccAraNa tamiLaMlO iMkA uMdi. iMdulO
"ta"kAraM kannA "sa"kAramE spashTaMgA vinipistuMdi. bahuSA aMdukE "ca"ki "Sa",
"sha", "sa" latO yati ErpaDi uMTuMdi.
 
vidhEyuDu,
kAmESvara rAvu.
#

--- On Tue, 8/12/09, J. K. Mohana Rao <jkmrao@...> wrote:

#
daMtya cha-kArAnni tsa ani manaM palukutAmu. tikkana kAlamu nATi SAsanamulO
puccukoni anE padAnni putsukoni ani chekkAru. aMtaku muMdu aMTE nannaya kAlaMlO
ee uccharaNa telugulO lEdu.  acca telugu padAlalO mAtramE ee uccharaNa uMTuMdi.
avi kUDA ca, cu, co, cau, ja, ju, jo, jau laku mAtramE vartistAyi. ee padAlu
vADETappuDu eMduku ta-kAramutO yati chelliMcarAdu?

vidhEyuDu - mOhana
#
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