Re: Use of controlled force As a disabled person I too struggle with the concept of violence as a real world personal issue. I feel very vulnerable when I go...
I am puzzled and concerned by this post. It sounds a frightening struggle, but it is not clear how to respond. No one else has on line yet, out of the 157...
I had considered responding right away but decided to give more time for thought. I am not sure I have an "answer," but will give my response anyway. I am not...
To rdr2205a who wrote "maybe some sort of violence is necessary to prevent even worse outcomes" and "'you do have to neutralize a threat to yourself, or...
os cresson
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Jun 9, 2009 2:19 pm
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The anonymous writer who asks this question appears to be shadowed by fear. That is perfectly natural. We are biologically conditioned to protect ourselves....
There is no way to peace; peace is the way. Doesn't this famous quote pertain to your dilemna? Keith Calmes www.keithcalmes.com www.myspace.com/keithcalmes ...
I guess my feeling is, an honest wrestling with the peace testimony, or non-violence in general, does not mean you have to have it all figured out, or in any...
Yeah, I think this is right, James. It's hard sometimes to talk about pacifism because people want it to "solve" all the problems that exist in this violent...
Timothy Travis
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Jun 9, 2009 9:24 pm
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When I'm called upon to explain the Quaker peace testimony I don't rely on what early Friends wrote. They too struggled with it, and it was not always applied...
Thank you James for a thoughtful response. Keep you shoulder to the wheel suggests an ongoing, daily, maybe eternal effort to understand/deal with this item....
Thank you, Randall, for helping remind us that this is not about the purity of our ideals. james -- James Riemermann Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota...
... Randall. Thanks. It's important to me. Chris London ... From: "rdr2205a" <rdr2205_1@...> To: <quf@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:23...
I need to be away from this list for a little while, but I appreciated Randall's description of the context fro which he wrote. As a Londoner, I have only a...
The general thrust of your post speaks to me, Chris, but your statement that Quakers "predominantly now seem to be against fighting at all even without...
Dear QUF Group: I am a musician and new to Quakerism. I am attempting to find out more about the history of music in the religion. Could someone guide me in...
Here are a couple of places to start. www.haverford.edu/library/quakermusic/ http://www.quakersong.org/quakers_and_music/ Dick Bellin ... guide me in the...
ok thanks! Keith Calmes www.keithcalmes.com www.myspace.com/keithcalmes 215-880-0780 ... From: R A Bellin <rbellin@...> Subject: [quf] RE: Quaker Music...
... (see below) Sorry to appear toneglect this question. I have been away at a conference and am catching up. I attend a small unprogrammed meeting in London. ...
Chris, That interesting. There are those in my large and quite liberal meeting who criticize politically charged messages, and feel that all messages be...
I am one of the activist Friends. I term myself a "remedial Quaker" because there are often days when I want to "cut off their heads". I am always clear on...
Thanks for exchanging experience, which seems to explain a lot. Yours is a large meeting, ours is small. Sometimes there is only one ministry. The most likely...
tis not that I hate "the sin" or contend with it. It is, rather, the powers that bind and control all of us with whom I struggle My enemy is not my enemy. My...
Timothy Travis
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Jul 7, 2009 3:18 am
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Self-will is the obstacles ('sin') that prevents one from being tuned in into (being permanently in accord with) the "eternal,'s (the Spirit, God, the inner...
*Why" are sexual prefence and identity so important in the conflict between more liberal and more structured faith communities arising from the Christian...
Chris Burford writes: "Why, why is it apparently such a touchstone now in the 21st century of authentic spirituality?" Thanks for posing the question in this...
Susan's comments on "sorting" are interesting, but reality is complicated. I was born a Pentecostal preacher's kid, and was raised with the requisite...
... Several years ago I attended the annual Gathering sponsored by Friends General Conference here in the States. The keynote speaker was the noted retired...
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