> Poseidon Adventure was filmed in 1972 by the way.

Oops; I should have known that. Thanks. I must have been thinking of "S.O.S.
Titanic."

Does anyone know whether the bridge/wheelhouse scenes in "The Poseidon
Adventure" were shot in the actual wheelhouse on the Queen Mary or on a set? I
only ask because the visual clues are ambiguous at best. The windows are
obviously frosted to conceal what's outside (either the soundstage or Long Beach
harbor), much of the equipment looks fake and does not match the bridge as it
appears today. On the other hand, some of it does resemble the real bridge and
it was probably in better condition in 1979 than it is now. If it is the real
bridge, then some equipment thereon has been changed, moved, or removed since
the movie was filmed.

Many of the areas used for filming are recognizable, even 30 years after the
film's release. In general it's fairly easy to tell the set-pieces from the real
Queen Mary, and of course everything seen after the ship flips over is a
set-piece. The bridge is the only place where it's a little harder to tell. If I
had to guess, I'd say it's a set.

Nov 28, 2009

  Hi,
    Hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving! Was pleasantly suprised to see Save of
Souls being repeated again last night. Such great footage of the Queen Mary.
    Did anyone else catch it again last night?

Cheers for the welcome !!!

Im hoping to return again to the Queen Mary next year for a longer stay,
and while l wasn't sure what to expect ,she really did captivate me,
more than l ever imagined! . Some of the tour guides were great, Gregory
l felt gave a good general tour, not over the top. One guide, had l been
on his tour l felt was way too much and seemed to treat his passengers
as though they were idiots. the Evening tour when we could see the
swiming pool l throughly enjoyed, probably the guide thought l was mad
taking so many photos of the pool

Speaking to one of the guides at the entrance to the self guided tour l
spied the Queen Mary life ring which was taken from G stairway display
case on QE2 at the end of her final crossing. It was somewhat sad to see
it stuck in the storeroom, out of sight! l took the time to mention to
one of the guides where this had come from and what it ment for QE2s
passengers to know it was in her original home, and then to see it in
its present location wasnt perhaps doing it proper justice. I mentioned
why not do an embarkation photo along the same lines as the sunday
brunch photo and have it ready for collection when you return the
headset thingy.

The pastry cafe on the promenade deck did look quite nice and l thought
l might pop in the next morning to sample one of the freshly made ones,
Only to notice on my late night travels the pastries all covered in
cling film, Not perhaps as fresh as l lmagined so l didnt go in there.
The souvenir shops l was impressed with and appeared to have some nice
items for sale and a good price. The Tee shirt shop again had what l
felt was a good range of souvenirs at reasonable prices, and l
discovered on the top shelf the last of the Japanese models of QE2,
which was promptly bought and required the purchase of a larger suitcase
and helped contribute to my excess baggage

In the evening a visit to the observation bar to relive the memories of
grand ocean liner travel, Not that it was busy but the waitress service
was pretty lousy.

What really impressed me and going back to the vibration thing was going
to sleep and thinking as though you were at sea on the Queen Mary,
(perhaps the waitress service was slow in the observation bar but she
was consistant!!!) and the final morning waking up and finding my
account under the door, something that bought me right back to my QE2
days and was just so unexpected, l didnt know if l should laugh or cry.

Having made a presence onboard with the "I love QE2 shirt" some of the
crew could see l was liner mad and seemed to be more keen  to impart
some of their wisdom . Certainly l enjoyed my conversations with some of
the staff and to be able to see the Disney Cabin,  Eisenhower suite &
the 3rd class restaurant  only added to the attraction of the Queen Mary
& l cant wait to see her again.



--- In queenmary@yahoogroups.com, Hull534 <hull534@...> wrote:
>
> I really enjoyed reading your review and am glad you enjoyed the ship.
>
> Welcome to the List!
>
> Dave in Seattle
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 14, 2009, at 2:13 PM, "cunardqueens" cunardqueen@... wrote:
>
>
>
> My first post on here so here goes !! I had always wanted to visit
Queen Mary since 1986 but always ended up going on the QE2 instead so
this year l turned to California for my main holidays, with the man
reason being to see the Queen Mary
>
> I stayed onboard Queen Mary 18-20th October in the Phinney Suite and
throughly enjoyed my two nights onboard, She really was all l expected
and much much more. The only negative thing l have to say is for such a
suite to have those cardboard coffee cups l was surprised at, and the
fact that it was only coffee that was on offer, being from the UK l
rather expected to have some tea bags at least. And the milk escapade
only added to the enjoyment, went to the reception in the evening to ask
about some fresh milk and a china cup, lm sure the lady thought l was
mad. But on returning to the cabin room service bought a tray with a cup
and pint of milk, probably the most expensive glass of milk l will ever
have, not that l objected.
>
> Having started off with the Sunday Brunch and the unlimited free
champagne top ups l fell in love with her the moment l saw her in the
distance. Being a devoted QE2 fan l knew one night wouldnt be enough and
as it happened 2 wasnt enough either, so on the next visit lm planning
on spending longer on board
>
> It was great to see some work being done to her, they were sanding the
forward deck. I did think some of the spaces could be better used and
was able to see some behind the scenes.
>
> I can see how some folks dont get it and are looking for modern hotel
things, well perhaps they should go there. the raised thresholds added
to the shipboard feel, the cracked bathroom sink only added to the
charm.
>
> What l did find most unusual was the vibration from the
airconditioning units, not that it annoyed me, it only added to the
shipboard feel and for two nights l really thought l was at sea. The
open decks at 4.45 again was a strange sensation in that to be onboard a
ship at sailing time and not be going anywhere!
>
> So all in all l had asuperb time onboard, and the suite only added to
the attraction
>
> Cheers
>
> Myles
>
>
>
>
> --- In queenmary@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" butlerart@ wrote:
> >
> > Interesting reveiw - obviously I am glad it was positive, but the
focus of the writer on the sense of being in another time is
encouraging. I have heard too many disappointed reviews commenting on
some absence of modern amenities, or for that matter, the presence of
raised thresholds. There will always be some visitors that want a modern
hotel - and they really ought to go elsewhere, where those things can be
provided in abundance.
> >
> > I don't think operators of the ship should be desperate to try and
make the Queen Mary BE such a modern facility, either. Some amenities
ARE needed, but if these detract from the central premise of the ship, I
think she will lose a lot of her drawing power. Far from apologizing for
what she is, I think the Queen Mary needs to revel in it - and offer it
in spades to visitors such as the writer of that review. Clearly, they
were searching for what she had to offer, and found it.
> >
> > Many thanks for the link.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Chris Butler
> >
> > --- In queenmary@yahoogroups.com, "queenmarybakersfield"
queenmarybakersfield@ wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.modbee.com/life/story/931530.html
> > >
> >
>

The theft of items from onboard, those of us who completed QE2s farewell
trips are all to aware of what went walkabouts, there was a shortage of
side plates and the stories of room service and nothing being returned
is another story.I will put my hands up to that one, and l was one among
many. Personally having a  side plate as a souvenir l dont have  a
problem with, However when people start removing fixings, that is a
whole new ball game, Then again theft is theft be it  a side plate, iron
or picture from the wall....Again even if plates didnt carry the ships
name, the person removing the item knows where they came from,even if no
one else does and who didnt remove one of those plastic lido cups from
onboard QE2??

   I work in a hotel and really if something is stolen there is no reason
why a credit card cant be charged after the guests depart. There have
been times that items have gone and we will usually hit the card for the
extra charge and if its disputed the word theft suitably metioned in
conversation usually works wonders. But then again why do people steal
towels, kettles and irons. The toiletries are of course expected to go,
but toilet roll as well?? the room folders mercifully tend to stay as
they are leather and quite plain.

Anytime lm away in hotels, l will take the shampoos etc as a souvenir,
sadly most tend not to have the hotels name on them. Queen Mary had nice
ones.Motel 6 had the little soaps and lovely bedspreads but they couldnt
be bought, any time l asked l was faced with a fit of laughter from the
reception, next time lm giving the housekeeping a big tip and a smile
!!!

I did ask the server for a souvenir menu from the promenade cafe and she
produced the whole thing, board and all, which wasnt quite what l had
intended,But l  left quite happily clutching the 2 paper inserts

So what is theft? The thought to remove anything other than the
toiletries from Queen Mary, didnt enter my head.

Cheers

Myles




--- In queenmary@yahoogroups.com, Clynder@... wrote:
>
>
> Petty theft will always be there, though it can be controlled
somewhat.
>
> The real pillaging and rape happened during the "conversion" (how I
hate
> that word). Where are the expensive items. Machinery spaces
telegraphs, at
> least 14, gone. Numerous pumps with brass plates with date of
manufacture,
> many, 1929. Hundreds of gauges, etc. etc. There was an abundance of
rich
> metals down there.
>
> I wont even get into the accommodation.
>
> Bye the way, do the lifeboats still have Queen Mary brass plates? A
real
> collectors item, probably gone, eh?
>
> When I left the ship, I took my cabin key, with a brass tag....
> "Q. M. 27 TOP QTRS. ENG. OFFICER
>
> I wouldn't consider this theft since I didn't lock the door and soon
after
> the door and bulkheads were ripped out to make room for Sir Winston's.
>
> Tom.
>

My first post on here so here goes !! I had always wanted to visit Queen Mary since 1986 but always ended up going on the QE2 instead so this year l turned to California for my  main holidays, with the man reason being to see the Queen Mary

I stayed onboard Queen Mary 18-20th October in the Phinney Suite and throughly enjoyed my two nights onboard, She really was all l expected and much much more. The only negative thing l have to say is for such a suite to have those cardboard coffee cups l was surprised at, and the fact that it was only coffee that was on offer, being from the UK l rather expected to have some tea bags at least. And the milk escapade only added to the enjoyment, went to the reception in the evening to ask about some fresh milk and a china cup, lm sure the lady thought l was mad. But on returning to the cabin room service bought a tray with a cup and  pint of milk, probably the most expensive glass of milk l will ever have, not that l objected. 

Having started off with the Sunday Brunch and the unlimited free champagne top ups l fell in love with her the moment l saw her in the distance. Being  a devoted QE2 fan l knew one night wouldnt be enough and as it happened 2 wasnt enough either, so on the next visit lm planning on spending longer on board

It was great to see some work being done to her, they were sanding the forward deck. I did think some of the spaces could be better used and was able to see some behind the scenes.

I can see how some folks dont get it and are looking for modern hotel things, well perhaps they should go there. the raised thresholds added to the shipboard feel, the cracked bathroom sink only added to the charm.

 What l did find most unusual was the vibration from the airconditioning units, not that it annoyed me, it only added to the shipboard feel and for two nights l really thought l was at sea. The open decks at 4.45  again was a strange sensation in that to be onboard a ship at sailing time and not be going anywhere!  

 So all in all l had  asuperb time onboard, and the suite only added to the attraction

Cheers

Myles

 

--- In queenmary@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <butlerart@...> wrote:
>
> Interesting reveiw - obviously I am glad it was positive, but the focus of the writer on the sense of being in another time is encouraging. I have heard too many disappointed reviews commenting on some absence of modern amenities, or for that matter, the presence of raised thresholds. There will always be some visitors that want a modern hotel - and they really ought to go elsewhere, where those things can be provided in abundance.
>
> I don't think operators of the ship should be desperate to try and make the Queen Mary BE such a modern facility, either. Some amenities ARE needed, but if these detract from the central premise of the ship, I think she will lose a lot of her drawing power. Far from apologizing for what she is, I think the Queen Mary needs to revel in it - and offer it in spades to visitors such as the writer of that review. Clearly, they were searching for what she had to offer, and found it.
>
> Many thanks for the link.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris Butler
>
> --- In queenmary@yahoogroups.com, "queenmarybakersfield" queenmarybakersfield@ wrote:
> >
> > http://www.modbee.com/life/story/931530.html
> >
>

It's nice when the young ones discover the classics...

kj





--- In queenmary@yahoogroups.com, Baxter Craven <baxter.craven@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all!
>
> I just watched this film and thought you all would enjoy it, too. Even if it
is somewhat ridiculous haha
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTEeDLQXLdM
>  
> ~Baxter
>

I found several "Shanks" toilet style handles in an antique mall in Orange a few months ago but I figured they were removed during the conversion.    D --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Chris <butlerart@...> wrote: From: Chris <butlerart@...> Subject: [queenmary] Re: Theft To: queenmary@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 7:50 AM   Human nature sometimes disappoints. I doubt theft of any original item is common (after all, the shower knobs are among the few portable items). Much more common would be thefts of towels etc, as per usual with a hotel. Amusingly, I suffered a HUGE delay disembarking QM2 in Sydney - a steward confided they were finding DINNER SERVICES in people's luggage...a lot of it. The passengers had ordered room service and then stolen the plates and so on. I am told the customs inspectors were drolly remarking, "oh sir, this seems to have gotten in your bag by accident". Chris Butler

- a steward confided they were finding DINNER SERVICES in people's luggage...a
lot of it.  The passengers had ordered room service and then stolen the plates
and so on.


On QE2 many people lifted items off their own room service tray..and those left
outside other staterooms as well. I know the pantry areas on some of the
passenger decks were also explored..and relieved of some items as well. But on
QE2 it was abit easier as there was not the surveillance/security that QM2 has.
A friend said he didn't have the nerve to lift anything off his dining table as
a ceiling camera was just a couple of feet away.

Maybe someone at Carnival has seen the rise of current Cunardival china listed
on Ebay?

Kevin

All, I was delighted to see this morning that the midship service yard is
completely gone, and that pedestrians can now walk unimpeded the full length of
the ship.  I will also note that I saw no trace of the outdoor Halloween mazes
etc.  I did not have a look at R deck aft, but I would bet this is cleared out
too.

I did not see any progress in deck repair forward, nor boat repairs in progress
at this time.

The Starboard Bakery (Prom deck, forward of the old drawing room) is now back in
operation, mornings only and later if crowds merit.  The rom had been empty for
some time.

The former Shell Castle shop's windows are papered over - obviously work is
proceeding in there.  I hear it will be the "Funnel Logo Shop" (probably just
the working title); I was delighted to hear that while the shop will be
DN-owned, they have asked the Shell Castle's former manager to run it.  Fans of
Everett will be glad this long resident of the ship will be in charge.

Relatively few people on board today (a Friday) but the Carnival boarding lobby
on D deck was busy (with a ship at dock off the Mary's stern).

I followed a school group taking a tour of the engine room; the guide was fun,
if a bit inaccurate, describing this as the "number two steering station" (one
of the things that space could NOT do).  I think some better training might be
needed, at least in details - he was in command of the facts, but his use of
words there gave a bad impression.

The propeller box enclosure is now fully painted, and the water in the box looks
even BETTER, truly outstanding.

Has anyone else noted the vertical side strakes are missing from some boats and
not others?  I forgot to note the boat numbers, but in images you will see it. 
I was looking at the port side boats from the parking lot as I walked up. I
suspect this has been the case for a long time, and I just noticed now.

I heard reports that several recent conventions were very successful and good
for the shops as well.  I saw several rooms (first class lounge, first class
smoking room) being outfitted for events - the former with astonishing lovely
white lily flower arrangements, very nice.

I was less happy with a pair of small trees or large bushes in box planters
flanking the Veranda Grill, outdoors on Sun aft.  Someone must be greatly
enamored of potted plants, but it seems out of place to me on the deck of an
ocean liner.

Well, that's my observations for the day.

Regards,

Chris Butler

Of course not, its like the steward/stewardess call lights in the hotel
corridors. Some have been taken, others are still there. If the hotel decks are
properly restored, the stolen items from the rooms would be replaced and that
would be a great place to start charging people for their "sticky fingers".

Another option that would take more effort is to inventory the rooms "as is"
which would reflect the items lifted and give that list of a particular block of
rooms to whoever services them after each guest leaves. This would allow them to
check and make sure that what's still in place stays in place until a more
proper restoration.

Sean

--- In queenmary@yahoogroups.com, JRogers714@... wrote:
>
> I have stayed in many rooms aboard the Queen and there is no consistency as
>  to weather or not certain shower and sink knobs will be missing. I have
> been in  rooms with all and in rooms with all the "salt" missing.
>
> Linerly,
> Eric Rogers
> LR AR USA
>
>
> In a message dated 11/20/2009 9:54:02 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> butlerart@... writes:
>
> Human  nature sometimes disappoints.  I doubt theft of any original item is
>  common (after all, the shower knobs are among the few portable items).
>

Human nature sometimes disappoints.  I doubt theft of any original item is
common (after all, the shower knobs are among the few portable items).  Much
more common would be thefts of towels etc, as per usual with a hotel.

Amusingly, I suffered a HUGE delay disembarking QM2 in Sydney - a steward
confided they were finding DINNER SERVICES in people's luggage...a lot of it. 
The passengers had ordered room service and then stolen the plates and so on.

I am told the customs inspectors were drolly remarking, "oh sir, this seems to
have gotten in your bag by accident".

Chris Butler

Hi Justin,

It shouldn't be that hard if its narrowed down to the small original items that
are the target for theft as it always seems to be on the ship. Anything small
enough and, more importantly, original, should be checked. I don't think there
are really any original light fixtures in the rooms anymore except possibly the
suites so no big problem there. As far as the rooms themselves, I could see the
fans, punkahs, steward call buttons, light switches and their push plates on the
"watch list".

In the bathrooms; punkahs, faucets, handles and their labels are about all one
could probably take so that's easy. Its not as if someone could really walk off
the ship with an original sink, toilet, or tub :-).

If the list is kept down to things small enough to take and a note posted
explaining to guests that they will be heavily charged for anything missing, it
wouldn't be too hard to police a lot of this stuff within the rooms.

Sean

--- In queenmary@yahoogroups.com, "jdcarthel" <jcarthel@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all!  Sean hit the nail on the head!  I too think that after each guest
checks out, "inventory" of the room should be made.  If anything has gone
missing, the guest can either give it back or be charged out the wazoo!  Good
idea, Sean, about put it in writing that room theft will cost guests dearly.  I
wish something like this could be implemented.  At first glance, it doesn't
appear that hard to do.  Another good idea, Sean, about future room restoration
restoring original fixtures instead of replacing them with modern ones.  I have
seen the "RMS Rooms."  I personaly just didn't like the room's originality being
compromised.  I want to close by saying Delaware North excites me too and gives
me hope for the future.
>
> Justin
>

Hi all!  Sean hit the nail on the head!  I too think that after each guest
checks out, "inventory" of the room should be made.  If anything has gone
missing, the guest can either give it back or be charged out the wazoo!  Good
idea, Sean, about put it in writing that room theft will cost guests dearly.  I
wish something like this could be implemented.  At first glance, it doesn't
appear that hard to do.  Another good idea, Sean, about future room restoration
restoring original fixtures instead of replacing them with modern ones.  I have
seen the "RMS Rooms."  I personaly just didn't like the room's originality being
compromised.  I want to close by saying Delaware North excites me too and gives
me hope for the future.

Justin

That figures. I suppose if some scum bag is really intent on stealing, they'll
find a way. I wish there were some way to at least monitor the fixtures in the
rooms after each guest checks out. If something goes missing, then their bill
should reflect that. Would be interesting to see a note in each of the rooms
that reads "if you plan to steal, hope you can afford a four to five figure room
charge for your stay!" lol

I hope any future restoration of the rooms will include restoring the original
sinks, tubs and toilets. Yes they can be restored by re-enameling the surface.

Sean

--- In queenmary@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <butlerart@...> wrote:
>
> I have heard of theft of shower knobs and wall fans, just so you all know. 
Darn near anything in a hotel room is (sadly) in some danger.
>
> Restoration may prove to be a "shankless" job!
>
> Chris Butler
>

I have heard of theft of shower knobs and wall fans, just so you all know.  Darn
near anything in a hotel room is (sadly) in some danger.

Restoration may prove to be a "shankless" job!

Chris Butler

Graf,

Do you know if the linens were new or if you were in one of the rooms that RMS
renovated a few years ago? Some folks noted that some of the original
circulating fans had been removed or turned at funky angles due to the ceilings
being lowered in certain areas apparently to accommodate new air
conditioning/heating systems in the rooms.

The bathrooms in these renovated rooms had the original formica wall paneling
removed and tile put in instead. It's possible the original handles were removed
then along with Shanks of England sinks, etc. It's also possible someone might
have stolen them although I've never heard of anyone noticing the actual faucet
handles being removed due to theft.

Sean

--- In queenmary@yahoogroups.com, "grafzeppelin127" <grafzeppelin127@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all. I finally made it back to the Queen Mary after two years, and a
one-month delay due to a family tragedy. I've been following Chris' updates and
was glad to see the ship looking better than she did two years ago, and very
glad to see the engine room open and unmolested by Halloween silliness. A few
things I noticed:
>
> - My stateroom was beautiful; the new linens blend nicely with the wood
paneling, and the flat-screen TV and high-tech alarm clock were welcome.
However, the salt-water tap handles were missing from the shower. I know they're
not functional anymore, but last time I stayed on board they were still mounted
in place. Also, I'm still waiting for the hotel to offer free WiFi.
>

Hello all. I finally made it back to the Queen Mary after two years, and a
one-month delay due to a family tragedy. I've been following Chris' updates and
was glad to see the ship looking better than she did two years ago, and very
glad to see the engine room open and unmolested by Halloween silliness. A few
things I noticed:

- My stateroom was beautiful; the new linens blend nicely with the wood
paneling, and the flat-screen TV and high-tech alarm clock were welcome.
However, the salt-water tap handles were missing from the shower. I know they're
not functional anymore, but last time I stayed on board they were still mounted
in place. Also, I'm still waiting for the hotel to offer free WiFi.

- I also noticed the damage to the main hall floor that Chris mentioned (port
side aft, near the ladies' room).

- Glad to hear the plywood decking on prom deck aft is temporary, as I thought
that was cheesy; the only downgrade from my last visit.

- The repainted funnels and refinished port prom deck look fantastic. So do the
propeller and waterline. However, the white superstructure is peeling badly; it
gets worse every time I visit.

- The Observation Bar serves up a very healthy portion of Buffalo wings for $6!!

- Lastly, I was on prom deck Sunday night talking to a couple of other ship
geeks I met (two nice gentlemen from Europe), when a woman came up to us and
insisted, in a just-so-you-know sort of way, that the ship is actually embedded
in concrete and resting on the bottom of the harbor, not afloat as the staff on
board and all the publicity materials say. I don't remember who she said she
was, but she came off as if she was in a unique position to know "the truth." I
replied that as far as I knew, she was afloat but did not want to get into an
argument with this (clearly intoxicated) person.

Of course, when I got up Monday morning the angle of the boarding ramps had
steepened noticeably, as the ship had risen with the tide. I also remembered
that the ship's list had to be adjusted in order to paint the waterline, and the
hotel clerk mentioned that it had been difficult to work with the deck tilted to
one side.

Why is there still a debate about this? The ship IS afloat, right?

I'm always struck by how fast the time flies when I am on board the Queen Mary.
I could walk the decks from end to end and back again for hours and hours and
never get bored. And no sooner do I leave than I can't wait to get back.
Hopefully sooner rather than later this time.

- GrafZeppelin127
New York