Danke. I do have ancestry.com subscription but it is somewhat
limited. I did find William Buccholz on it marrying to Augustine
Koehler in supposedly August 25, 1845 in Dodge County, Wisconsin.
This is very likely a transcription error as she, her father, and
sisters did not arrive in Amerika unti 1846 from Zehden,
Prussen/Germany. But I did find that her father Ferdinand Koehler was
a Shoemaker, and that he did have land in Dodge County, Wisconsin
very likely right next to Wilhelm Buchholz. Subsequently, he met
Augustine and married her in August 1848 (this date according to his
own handwriting in a German English writing per his Civil War pension
Record materials).

I honestly don't know when he came across from
Prussia/Prussen/Germany but according to the 1900 Census he was
living with his daughter Henrietta who married to Carl Kressler up in
Lolo, Shoshone Co, Idaho....on this census page it indicates that he
immigrated in 1844. I tend to wonder about this year of immigration.
He supposedly was born 19 Januar 1826. But I have no idea if this is
correct or not. He said it in his Pension Papers. (If only my Great
Grandma Buchholz would have passed down to me the genealogy and
photographs that she had...her sister threw it all in the garbage!)
BUT thankfully I have managed to obtain duplicates of her husband
Lloyd Buchholz father William F. Buchholz, son of Wilhelm Buchholz
and Augustine Koehler).

I am wondering if these other Buchholz folks that immigrated to
Wisconsin may be related but the descendants just don't know it.
There are so many questions and not enough answers about this
Buchholz family. I am thankful for what I do have though very much
so. I would like to find other descendants of the siblings of William
Frederich Buchholz, such as Henriette, Sophie, etc etc. Surely they
must exist.

Danke.

Douglas Lloyd Buchholz

--- In prussiangenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "gondor1963"
<gondor1963@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know how much luck you will have. Do you have a
subscription to
> ancestry.com? They have a new "German Section" were you may look.
If
> you do not, let me know and I will look while I still have mine (I
may
> cancel it next month just because I seem to have gotten all I'm
going
> to get from it).
> From what I understand, a lot of records that we would just love to
get
> hold of went poof in WWII. Don't people realize we are going to
need
> those things?! For example, my sis-in-law is a wills and trust
lawyer
> and had to go to Germany over a contested will. She went to a lot
of
> government and various other resources but could find no
information on
> that part of the family because all had been destroyed. I know that
I
> am getting pretty frustrated at times. I know that is not much use
but
> there you have it. Maybe doing a google search for something
> like "German genealogical resources".
> I know that PA is known for its large German influx, but I know
from
> looking for my own family records that the midwest really had its
> share. My maternal grandfather was Raymond (W?) Landgraf (lived in
> Chicago) and his parents were from Prussia. I have had no luck
getting
> beyond finding my grandfather's parents on the census. It's the
same
> deal with my paternal grandmother (also lived in Chicago) who was
first
> generation American with Prussian parents. She was Bertha Johanna
Hoch.
> Then my mother's aunt married Herman Ludwig, also first generation
in
> Chicago. I know much more about that family's death (husband, wife,
two
> daughters) because they all perished in the Iroquois Theatre Fire
of
> December 1903 in Chicago.
> BTW, I had family in Outagamie County, WI also (not German). They
lived
> in Appleton. I wonder if they ever met...
>
> Pamela
>

According to his son John Henry Buchholz of April 19, 1930 of Lake City
Precinct, King County, Washington State states that both his parents
William Henry Buchholz and Augustine/Augusta/Auguste
Koehler/Keller/Kailer/Kohler were from Germany Rhineland.

Then there is the other Census for John Henry Buchholz brother William
Frederich/Francis Buchholz in the 1920 Census for Cambridge, Washington
County, Idaho states that both his parents Wilhelm Buchholz and wife
Augusta were born in Berlin, Germany but "Berlin" is both crossed out.

If anyone can help me lock in on Koehler or Buchholz over there in
Gemany I would emmensely appreiate it.

Dein,
Douglas Lloyd Buchholz

"Austesford" according to William Henry Buckholz's Pension record
photo-copies is actually "Hustisford" there in Dodge County,
Wisconsin. He married to Augustine/Augusta/ Henriette Marie Koehler
on August 25, 1848 according to his own written statements.

For the life of me, as I don't speak but very little German nowadays
and have lost it over the many years, couldn't figure out what
geographical location Austesford would be within Dodge County,
Wisconsin.

Looking into Section 1, of T10 N, 16E 80 Acres that Ferdinand Koehler
bought in February 10, 1848 I finally found a Platt Map of the county
which would pretty much tell me a few answers. I cross referenced it
with some other maps and ran across a map of the smaller townships
within Dodge County and noticed next to Herman and Hubbard Twp's that
there is this Hustisford. Boy, you all oughtta seen the look come
across my face at 3 a.m. when I added it all up in my mind !!!

So, now the question is whether or not there is anything in the land
records that would clue me on where Buchholz was living, where he
bought the land, when he sold the land, and the like. Cause in 1850
and 1855 he was in Greenville, Brown/Outagamie County, Wisconsin with
Ferdinand Kailer, Koehler his father in law.......

Anyway, I hope that other folks on this message board are having some
tidbits of new enlightening info come to them as well.

Douglas Lloyd Buchholz

Looking for information on this small village (?) located near
Neidenburg.
1.  Not sure if this is really a village or a church admin area of
Neidenburg.
2.  Is this the correct spelling of the name?  That ...witz looks more
Polish than Prussian to me.
3.  Is this the Polish spelling and if so, what was the Prussian name.

My grandfather Friedrich Grönning is from this place and I am trying to
find out where I should look to find records about his family back in
Prussia.

Thanks for any help you may give.

I also belong to the Slovak Roots Group and there is a 1869 Hungarian
Census you can get from the LDS.  Is there a similiar Census for the
Prussian area.

Hello All,
I am really confussed and need some help please! My G-Grandfather was
born in Seehausen, Prussia Sept.21,1839 , his name Louis Siegler. I
understand there are currently 8 Seehausens, But can anyone tell me
how many there were in 1839>?I think it was close to Brandenburg. I
sure would be grateful for any help I might be given.He came to U.S.
in 1864.I am trying to find out if he had sibblings and the name of
his parents, .
Thanks so much,
Tommie Siegeler

Hi Tommie,

What is the name of his wife, it would make searching a bit easier.

Regards,
Anne Schley



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Hi Anne Sheley,
First ! Thanks so much for responding to my request, My G-Grandfather
married my G-Grandmother in Texas after the Civil War ended. Her name was
Fredericka Albrecht Battling.She was not from Prussia. If I may provide any
other information that might assist you in any way please do so.And once
again thanks so much for responding.
Fondly,
Tommie Jo

Tommie Jo
-------Original Message-------

From: schleya@...
Date: 8/27/2007 6:26:07 AM
To: prussiangenealogy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Prussian Genealogy] G-Grandfather Prussia Village

Hi Tommie,

What is the name of his wife, it would make searching a bit easier.

Regards,
Anne Schley

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Hello everyone, I am new to the group so any directions or help would be greatly
appreciated. I am located near Washington, D.C.

   The reason I have joined is the fact we have no record of our Platzke family.
A grand father,
   Hermann Platzke, Born 14 Aug 1880, Danzig, Prussia has no record of parents or
any family in the area that we can locate. There is a story that he was given as
a baby to an aunt by the name of Platzke to save his life. It is believed his
parents were jewish, and possibly had the name of Von Hohenfels.

   Any suggestions on where to start?

   Regards,

   Tom


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Did the Platzkes or Von Hohenfels come to the US?  If they did census
records would be great.  Go to a local Family History Center (altho
connected to the Mormon Church they are helpful to everyone) they
have records from all over the world.

What about religious records?  If they were Jewish there is a great
Jewish website.  I will have to look it up and get back to you.

My own g-grandparents were Theodore and Anna (Briese) Scholz from
Breslau, Silesia, Prussia now Wroclaw, Poland and I have lots of
questions too.


--- In prussiangenealogy@yahoogroups.com, tom stehli <stehli04@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, I am new to the group so any directions or help
would be greatly appreciated. I am located near Washington, D.C.
>
>   The reason I have joined is the fact we have no record of our
Platzke family. A grand father,
>   Hermann Platzke, Born 14 Aug 1880, Danzig, Prussia has no record
of parents or any family in the area that we can locate. There is a
story that he was given as a baby to an aunt by the name of Platzke
to save his life. It is believed his parents were jewish, and
possibly had the name of Von Hohenfels.
>
>   Any suggestions on where to start?
>
>   Regards,
>
>   Tom
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Thank you for your response,

   Only the one Hermann Platzke came to the US. We have as much as we can locate
on his arrival in the State of Georgia about 1902 as well as here in Maryland.
Prior to that no information. The word of mouth story is he left the Platzkes in
Poland and went to sea, jumped ship in Florida and made his way to Darien,
Georgia, where he obtained citizenship and then married our grandmother.

   We have checked the family history center, and found no useful information
yet. I would greatly appreciate the Jewish information website.

   Like you, we have lots of questions, especially when word of mouth stories
paint an interesting history.

   Regards,

   Tom

desertlily90 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
           Did the Platzkes or Von Hohenfels come to the US? If they did census
records would be great. Go to a local Family History Center (altho
connected to the Mormon Church they are helpful to everyone) they
have records from all over the world.

What about religious records? If they were Jewish there is a great
Jewish website. I will have to look it up and get back to you.

My own g-grandparents were Theodore and Anna (Briese) Scholz from
Breslau, Silesia, Prussia now Wroclaw, Poland and I have lots of
questions too.

--- In prussiangenealogy@yahoogroups.com, tom stehli <stehli04@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, I am new to the group so any directions or help
would be greatly appreciated. I am located near Washington, D.C.
>
> The reason I have joined is the fact we have no record of our
Platzke family. A grand father,
> Hermann Platzke, Born 14 Aug 1880, Danzig, Prussia has no record
of parents or any family in the area that we can locate. There is a
story that he was given as a baby to an aunt by the name of Platzke
to save his life. It is believed his parents were jewish, and
possibly had the name of Von Hohenfels.
>
> Any suggestions on where to start?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
>
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>






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--- In prussiangenealogy@yahoogroups.com, tom stehli <stehli04@...>
wrote:
>
> Thank you for your response,
>

Tom, hadn't checked yahoo for a while and saw your answer.
I found a site http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm that
has a lot of sites and in the middle of the lower page there are two or
three jewish sites.  Lots of other sites, but not much for Maryland.

Sounds like you have already touched a lot of bases.  Hope you can find
something.  Do you speak German?  I would imagine that would help a lot
researching overseas.

--- In prussiangenealogy@yahoogroups.com, desertlily90 <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In prussiangenealogy@yahoogroups.com, tom stehli <stehli04@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for your response,
> >
>
> Tom, hadn't checked yahoo for a while and saw your answer.
> I found a site http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm
that
> has a lot of sites and in the middle of the lower page there are
two or
> three jewish sites.  Lots of other sites, but not much for Maryland.
>
> Sounds like you have already touched a lot of bases.  Hope you can
find
> something.  Do you speak German?  I would imagine that would help a
lot
> researching overseas.


I will check the website. I use Google tranlator to read the foreign
websites. It works very good.

Thank you,
Tom
>

Hessen-Darmstadt or Prussia?

I have family helping me, thank god.
But it's still confusiing.
I've found things in Kansas that should fit- found the Fourier name
there in the area- but how to go after what else could be
there in Nebraksa and Illinois is something I'm still looking at.

But what's worrying me is Europe.

I knew it wouldn't be easy, even with help, but this is nuts.

I hope to find more beofre looking for a researcher- which is
something I may end up doing on parts of my tree.

So what would you suggest I do with informatiton pointing to two
different states and countires?

I can spread it out to family, but I want to contribute.

How does anyone go about something like this?

Hello, I can understand your problem. Try geneanet.org\
it is a foreign genealogy website somewhat like ancestry.com. You can
join at a basic level without cost. There are other websites you will
learn about and see at geneanet. You will need Google translate found
at the Goodle website.

I am trying to find a family members parents in Poland/Prussia by the
name of Platzke, but no luck yet - I just keep trying and hope
something turns up.

Good luck,

Tom


--- In prussiangenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "mhsbroncos2000"
<mhsbroncos2000@...> wrote:
>
> Hessen-Darmstadt or Prussia?
>
> I have family helping me, thank god.
> But it's still confusiing.
> I've found things in Kansas that should fit- found the Fourier name
> there in the area- but how to go after what else could be
> there in Nebraksa and Illinois is something I'm still looking at.
>
> But what's worrying me is Europe.
>
> I knew it wouldn't be easy, even with help, but this is nuts.
>
> I hope to find more beofre looking for a researcher- which is
> something I may end up doing on parts of my tree.
>
> So what would you suggest I do with informatiton pointing to two
> different states and countires?
>
> I can spread it out to family, but I want to contribute.
>
> How does anyone go about something like this?
>

I have recently found out what Church my 3rd great grand father
belonged to, but have run into a snag in which I won't be able to get
around until I figure out where he's from.
The Evangelical Church in Berlin does not do name searches, one has
to know the name, place and year of the person they are looking for.
I know the year and name, but not the place.
But at least I know what denomination to look under here in the US,
if I can find any that still exist in the counties that I have my
great grand parents living in.
I have heard of one great grand father going to the Baptist Church,
but he never became a memeber, so if I find out there weren't any
Evangelical Churches in the ares that I'm looking at, that could be
the next best thing right?
Hopefully my search became a little easier after this, since church
rosters will have things written down on each family that is part of
the congregation. Or they should have such things.

I'll see from the numbers that I have if I can find a Church
congregation in the Kane County area in which John and his wife Mary
were members of if it still exists, some churches have the habit of
falling apart and making new ones from the ashes, so this should be
fun.

Wish me luck!!

We are trying to locate the parents of Hermann Platzke, born 1880 in
Prussia. He married a Mary Esther Wallace in Georgia, about 1902. He
died in 1967 in Maryland. Our records have located a Prussian or
Polish/German spelling of Platzke as Plotzkeu. This Platzke family may
have connections to the Von Hohenfels family of Poland.

Tom Staley     stehli04@...

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Hello, my name is Suzanne Richardson and I am researching several ancestors from
Prussia and hoping the last names are spelled correctly.  ( 1 ) Ferdinand
Lutzke, b. 1826 in Preuben(Prussia) and d. before 1900. He married Wilhelmina
Karoline Blank(Blanke) b. 24 Jan 1836 in Prussia and was christened on 31 Jan
1836 in Brandenburg Stadt, Brandenburg, Prussia.  Her father was Johann Andreas
Blank(Blanke) and her mother was Anne Dorothea Saul (no dates for these.)  (2)
Ernest Frederic Herman Blank(Blanke) b. 3 Feb 1841 Prussia and d. 6 May 1901 in
Des Moines, Iowa, USA.  (3) Peter Zeug (Zeng, Zeig or Zieg) b. abt 1805 in
Prussia and d. aft 1903 in USA.    Other names I have are Petrus Josephus
Schiffman b. 7 Aug 181 in Rheinprovinz, Prussia and christened  9 Aug 1818 in
Katholisch-Mutscheid, Rheinprovinz, Prussia, son of Francisci Antonii Schiffman.
I have several names and don't know where to turn to for help.  Any direction
would greatly be appreciated.  Thank you so much.



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I now have additional information about the persons in the subject.
Jürgen Friedrich Schley was born in 1710, in ?, died 18 October 1772 in
Pieverstorf near Ankershagen.
He was married to Hedwig Christine Schock, born 1698, in ?, died 1 June
1772 in Pieverstorf near Ankershagen.
They had no children.
In 1763 Jürgen Friedrich was the owner of Schloss Pieverstorf and he
and the maid Marie Dewitz, got a son Johann Friedrich who was born 29
May 1763 in Pieverstorf.
I'm looking for more information about Jürgen Friedrich Schley, Hedwig
Christine Schock and Marie Dewitz.

Thanks,
Anne Schley
The Netherlands

Hi,
I'm new to this group.  I am trying to find my ancestors in Prussia.
I'll tell you what I know so far.
Friederich Johan Herzog born c. 1862, came to US c 1881.  His parents
Friederich Herzog born C. 1833 d 1910 in Chicago and Wilhelmina c.
1837 d 1900 in Chicago.
Fred J. married Susanna Weiss from Grethen,Bavaria. (I've traced her
family back a couple of generations.)
Fred and Susanna's 1st 3 children beginning in 1883 were born in TX,
the others, beginning in 1888 were born in Cook Co, IL.
I have a letter, translated by my grandfather from his mother which
says they were from "Twin hills", but a great aunt said it
is "Twincities".  There is also a description of a coat of arms given
to an ancestor during the 30 years war of a group of women being
protected by a soldier/knight/duke.
One of the birth certificates of my great uncle, with info given by
his elder sibling in 1942, lists a place of birth for my great
grandfather as Matschulen or something like that.  i haven't found a
city like that either.
I have some death certificates but none give me any info beyond pob
Germany.  I have not been able to locate naturalization info or
immigration info.
This is long but I thought the more info I gave, the more possibility
someone could help me get beyond this brick wall.  I've been stuck
here for about 5 years.
Thanks
Mary Herzog Diebel

Hello,
 
What contacts have you been using to locate Prussian information - genealogy. I
have not had much luck. I am looking for 'Plotzkeu' family information. Good
luck
 
Regards,
Tom

--- On Sun, 6/8/08, genherzog <genherzog@...> wrote:

From: genherzog <genherzog@...>
Subject: [Prussian Genealogy] Herzog family name
To: prussiangenealogy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 12:27 PM






Hi,
I'm new to this group. I am trying to find my ancestors in Prussia.
I'll tell you what I know so far.
Friederich Johan Herzog born c. 1862, came to US c 1881. His parents
Friederich Herzog born C. 1833 d 1910 in Chicago and Wilhelmina c.
1837 d 1900 in Chicago.
Fred J. married Susanna Weiss from Grethen,Bavaria. (I've traced her
family back a couple of generations. )
Fred and Susanna's 1st 3 children beginning in 1883 were born in TX,
the others, beginning in 1888 were born in Cook Co, IL.
I have a letter, translated by my grandfather from his mother which
says they were from "Twin hills", but a great aunt said it
is "Twincities" . There is also a description of a coat of arms given
to an ancestor during the 30 years war of a group of women being
protected by a soldier/knight/ duke.
One of the birth certificates of my great uncle, with info given by
his elder sibling in 1942, lists a place of birth for my great
grandfather as Matschulen or something like that. i haven't found a
city like that either.
I have some death certificates but none give me any info beyond pob
Germany. I have not been able to locate naturalization info or
immigration info.
This is long but I thought the more info I gave, the more possibility
someone could help me get beyond this brick wall. I've been stuck
here for about 5 years.
Thanks
Mary Herzog Diebel


















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Hello, Tom,
I mainly have used familysearch.org and familysearchlabs.org.  I found one
couple who could be my gg-grandparents, but I can't find them with my
g-grandfather, so I'm not willing to accept it.  I've use Shtetl Seekers to
look for the city name, but that didn't help much either.
I thought maybe someone in this group would be able to direct me to some place
else.
 
Do you know of other sites or groups?
 
Where is your family from? In Germany?  In USA?
 
If I find anything worthwhile I'll let you know.
 
Mary Diebel

--- On Sun, 6/8/08, tom stehli <stehli04@...> wrote:

From: tom stehli <stehli04@...>
Subject: Re: [Prussian Genealogy] Herzog family name
To: prussiangenealogy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 11:26 AM






Hello,
&nbsp;
What contacts have you been using to locate Prussian information - genealogy. I
have not had much luck. I am looking for 'Plotzkeu' family information. Good
luck
&nbsp;
Regards,
Tom

--- On Sun, 6/8/08, genherzog &lt;genherzog@yahoo. com&gt; wrote:

From: genherzog &lt;genherzog@yahoo. com&gt;
Subject: [Prussian Genealogy] Herzog family name
To: prussiangenealogy@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 12:27 PM

Hi,
I'm new to this group. I am trying to find my ancestors in Prussia.
I'll tell you what I know so far.
Friederich Johan Herzog born c. 1862, came to US c 1881. His parents
Friederich Herzog born C. 1833 d 1910 in Chicago and Wilhelmina c.
1837 d 1900 in Chicago.
Fred J. married Susanna Weiss from Grethen,Bavaria. (I've traced her
family back a couple of generations. )
Fred and Susanna's 1st 3 children beginning in 1883 were born in TX,
the others, beginning in 1888 were born in Cook Co, IL.
I have a letter, translated by my grandfather from his mother which
says they were from "Twin hills", but a great aunt said it
is "Twincities" . There is also a description of a coat of arms given
to an ancestor during the 30 years war of a group of women being
protected by a soldier/knight/ duke.
One of the birth certificates of my great uncle, with info given by
his elder sibling in 1942, lists a place of birth for my great
grandfather as Matschulen or something like that. i haven't found a
city like that either.
I have some death certificates but none give me any info beyond pob
Germany. I have not been able to locate naturalization info or
immigration info.
This is long but I thought the more info I gave, the more possibility
someone could help me get beyond this brick wall. I've been stuck
here for about 5 years.
Thanks
Mary Herzog Diebel

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Hello,
 
I am Swiss/German and my wife is Polish/German. The
Polish/German (Prussian) in my wife's family is her grandfather who left no
information on his parents or his family in Prussia. I have been searching for a
while, but no luck.
 
my.geneanet.org is a foreign genealogy website I used to locate my Swiss/German
family, but I have found nothing else to help with the Prussian.

--- On Tue, 6/10/08, mary herzog <genherzog@...> wrote:

From: mary herzog <genherzog@...>
Subject: Re: [Prussian Genealogy] Herzog family name
To: prussiangenealogy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 9:53 PM






Hello, Tom,
I mainly have used familysearch. org and familysearchlabs. org.&nbsp; I
found one couple who could be my gg-grandparents, but I can't find them with my
g-grandfather, so I'm not willing to accept it.&nbsp; I've use Shtetl
Seekers to look for the city name, but that didn't help much either.
I thought maybe someone in this group would be able to direct me to some place
else.
&nbsp;
Do you know of other sites or groups?
&nbsp;
Where is your family from? In Germany?&nbsp; In USA?
&nbsp;
If I find anything worthwhile I'll let you know.
&nbsp;
Mary Diebel

--- On Sun, 6/8/08, tom stehli &lt;stehli04@yahoo. com&gt; wrote:

From: tom stehli &lt;stehli04@yahoo. com&gt;
Subject: Re: [Prussian Genealogy] Herzog family name
To: prussiangenealogy@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 11:26 AM

Hello,
&amp;nbsp;
What contacts have you been using to locate Prussian information - genealogy. I
have not had much luck. I am looking for 'Plotzkeu' family information. Good
luck
&amp;nbsp;
Regards,
Tom

--- On Sun, 6/8/08, genherzog &amp;lt;genherzog@ yahoo. com&amp;gt;
wrote:

From: genherzog &amp;lt;genherzog@ yahoo. com&amp;gt;
Subject: [Prussian Genealogy] Herzog family name
To: prussiangenealogy@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 12:27 PM

Hi,
I'm new to this group. I am trying to find my ancestors in Prussia.
I'll tell you what I know so far.
Friederich Johan Herzog born c. 1862, came to US c 1881. His parents
Friederich Herzog born C. 1833 d 1910 in Chicago and Wilhelmina c.
1837 d 1900 in Chicago.
Fred J. married Susanna Weiss from Grethen,Bavaria. (I've traced her
family back a couple of generations. )
Fred and Susanna's 1st 3 children beginning in 1883 were born in TX,
the others, beginning in 1888 were born in Cook Co, IL.
I have a letter, translated by my grandfather from his mother which
says they were from "Twin hills", but a great aunt said it
is "Twincities" . There is also a description of a coat of arms given
to an ancestor during the 30 years war of a group of women being
protected by a soldier/knight/ duke.
One of the birth certificates of my great uncle, with info given by
his elder sibling in 1942, lists a place of birth for my great
grandfather as Matschulen or something like that. i haven't found a
city like that either.
I have some death certificates but none give me any info beyond pob
Germany. I have not been able to locate naturalization info or
immigration info.
This is long but I thought the more info I gave, the more possibility
someone could help me get beyond this brick wall. I've been stuck
here for about 5 years.
Thanks
Mary Herzog Diebel

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I was born and raised in South Bend IN 1949-1987) and moved to South
Carolina in 1987.  I started the family tree in 1995 when I sent
everybody that I could think of a letter asking for information.
Everybody sent me back info. I gave up on it for some years and now I
am back into it.

Surnames from Germany/Poland are:

Papczynski, Taberski or Taberska, Grochowalski, Starkweather, Paidle

I can go back to my Paternal great-grandfather Francis Papczynski
(but am unable to get DOD.  His DOB 1869.  He married Anna Taberski.

I can also go back to my 5th direct ancestor Michael Taberski but
don't know DOB or DOD he was marred to Catherine Varos.

On my mom's side I just stop at my great-grandmother (my mom's
grandmother) Jan Printz who moved to Chicago and died in Chicago) he
was married to Maryanne Lentych who died in Chicago ILL but no one
has any record of that.

My mom's great-grandfather was Martin Brajcki who married Agnieszak
Krusik no DOB or DOD for them.  But stories goes that they died in
Wisconsin.

I am on Family Search and Ancestory.com (but only for the free
version) I don't know if paying for them is worth it or not, so I
hope someone can answer that question for me.  Is it worth paying to
find relatives?

Hope someone can help or direct me to the place for help.

Thanks
Lynn Hudak

Hello, Lynn,
Can't help much right now, but might be able to direct you to some helpful
sites.
For Chicago/Illinois try IRAD, it is the Illinois Archives.
Also, they JUST opened a new site, CookCountyGenealogy.org.  You can search for
birth, death, and marriage and if you find what you want you can order and
download a copy of the certificate.  Each one costs $15, which is a drawback. 
But if you find them in the marriages, you can use the record number to see who
they married.  That is free.
Another site for Chicago Poles, plus a few other places is PGSA.org.  They list
an index of deaths and marriages.  You can order obits, for a charge.  i usually
spend an afternoon there when I visit Chicago once a year.
I broke down and have a subscription to ancestry.  I will say that it has helped
me a lot.  I just re signed up, and took the full package.  It was only $40 more
ayear.  Not sure it will be haelpful, but I'll try it for a year anyway.
One other site for Poles, if they happen to be from the Posen/Poznan area is The
Poznan Project.easiest way to find it is just search for it.  It has a wierd
address.  It is free.  it has helped me immensely.
Gotta run.  Hope some of this helps.
 
Mary Diebel (1949 in Chicago), living in Nevada since 1987.  Similar to you.

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From: lm_hudak <lm_hudak@...>
Subject: [Prussian Genealogy] New member
To: prussiangenealogy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 3:36 PM






I was born and raised in South Bend IN 1949-1987) and moved to South
Carolina in 1987. I started the family tree in 1995 when I sent
everybody that I could think of a letter asking for information.
Everybody sent me back info. I gave up on it for some years and now I
am back into it.

Surnames from Germany/Poland are:

Papczynski, Taberski or Taberska, Grochowalski, Starkweather, Paidle

I can go back to my Paternal great-grandfather Francis Papczynski
(but am unable to get DOD. His DOB 1869. He married Anna Taberski.

I can also go back to my 5th direct ancestor Michael Taberski but
don't know DOB or DOD he was marred to Catherine Varos.

On my mom's side I just stop at my great-grandmother (my mom's
grandmother) Jan Printz who moved to Chicago and died in Chicago) he
was married to Maryanne Lentych who died in Chicago ILL but no one
has any record of that.

My mom's great-grandfather was Martin Brajcki who married Agnieszak
Krusik no DOB or DOD for them. But stories goes that they died in
Wisconsin.

I am on Family Search and Ancestory.com (but only for the free
version) I don't know if paying for them is worth it or not, so I
hope someone can answer that question for me. Is it worth paying to
find relatives?

Hope someone can help or direct me to the place for help.

Thanks
Lynn Hudak


















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Hi Lynn,
My name is Suzanne Richardson and I wanted to let you know that if you have a
library card, you might want to check with your library and see if they have
access to Ancestry.com.  My library does I just found out and am going to start
using their database search computers.  Also they told me that I can access
Heritage Quest on my on computer at home with my library card.  They have census
data from 1790-1930 and also have articles from magazines, papers and books that
might help.  I was amazed what I could find at Heritage Quest.  You might try
checking out those two options.  I have several Prussian ancestors that I have
not had time to research all the way back.  Seems like so many names and so
little time.  Good luck and will be glad to help if I can.
Suzanne

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From: lm_hudak <lm_hudak@...>
Subject: [Prussian Genealogy] New member
To: prussiangenealogy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 3:36 PM











             I was born and raised in South Bend IN 1949-1987) and moved to South

Carolina in 1987.  I started the family tree in 1995 when I sent

everybody that I could think of a letter asking for information.

Everybody sent me back info. I gave up on it for some years and now I

am back into it.



Surnames from Germany/Poland are:



Papczynski, Taberski or Taberska, Grochowalski, Starkweather, Paidle



I can go back to my Paternal great-grandfather Francis Papczynski

(but am unable to get DOD.  His DOB 1869.  He married Anna Taberski.



I can also go back to my 5th direct ancestor Michael Taberski but

don't know DOB or DOD he was marred to Catherine Varos.



On my mom's side I just stop at my great-grandmother (my mom's

grandmother) Jan Printz who moved to Chicago and died in Chicago) he

was married to Maryanne Lentych who died in Chicago ILL but no one

has any record of that.



My mom's great-grandfather was Martin Brajcki who married Agnieszak

Krusik no DOB or DOD for them.  But stories goes that they died in

Wisconsin.



I am on Family Search and Ancestory.com (but only for the free

version) I don't know if paying for them is worth it or not, so I

hope someone can answer that question for me.  Is it worth paying to

find relatives?



Hope someone can help or direct me to the place for help.



Thanks

Lynn Hudak





























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I found a relative in Germany and wrote to him about 8 years ago, he
wrote several letters to me all in Polish.  My father had a very hard
time translating it.  We have very few polish people in South Carolina
and the ones that I did contact said they had a hard time translating
it.

My husband took it to work and a person he knows that speaks German
could only translate a few words.  He said that it was typed in
German/Polish language.

Does anyone know where I can get it translated or try to get it
translated?

Thanks
Lynn Hudak

I suggest going to the Goggle translator at Goggle.com it is free,
but you will have to type in the letter. I have used it a number of
times with success. Also software translators are available at a cost.

Regards,
Tom Staley


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wrote:
>
> I found a relative in Germany and wrote to him about 8 years ago,
he
> wrote several letters to me all in Polish.  My father had a very
hard
> time translating it.  We have very few polish people in South
Carolina
> and the ones that I did contact said they had a hard time
translating
> it.
>
> My husband took it to work and a person he knows that speaks German
> could only translate a few words.  He said that it was typed in
> German/Polish language.
>
> Does anyone know where I can get it translated or try to get it
> translated?
>
> Thanks
> Lynn Hudak
>

Hi one and all. I'm looking for any information on how to look
up Prussian officers. My ggrandfather Rudolph Schneider came to the
US in 1883 from Prussia. Can't make out the town he came from it's
something like Luetzerdorf? Prussia. It could be spelt way different
from that. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Avis