Andy & Roy discussing the NORTHEAST FIFTY FINEST - ME, VT, NH, NY AND MA list (Andy - the credits at top) ... (Roy) Actually Ron is the one who got it started...
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Edward "7.389056099" ...
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Sep 4, 2000 2:59 am
... I'm not sure what you mean by "missing" data points. The data come in 1-degree quads, tabulated every 3 seconds in longitude and latitude. Unless the file...
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Edward "7.389056099" ...
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Sep 4, 2000 2:59 am
The following list shows all peaks in the southern Appalachians with at least 1500' prominence (and probably a few more). The scope of the list is from the...
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Ronald Tagliapietra
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Sep 4, 2000 4:45 am
It's exciting to see some SE results coming in. As some of the lower peaks are not familiar, I will need more info (such as quads for peaks or saddles) to...
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Roy Schweiker
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Sep 5, 2000 3:23 am
... I would say it happens maybe 5% of the time, which is 2-3 peaks in a list of 50. The latest case in VT burned me because the summit in question was ...
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Edward "7.389056099" ...
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Sep 5, 2000 5:45 am
... Is there some reason you can't use the latitude and longitude given? That oughta tell you for sure which one is it. ... The elevations given are what the...
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Andy Martin
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Sep 5, 2000 6:15 pm
Some notes on SE USA "finest" 50 prominence list. 1. Am about to type up the draft list. It is pretty close to final, though 1 or 2 more peaks may squeeze on...
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Ronald Tagliapietra
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Sep 5, 2000 11:47 pm
. ... Sounds great! ... Sounds right. ... Yes. But footnote that BM Meat Camp is summit not BM Snake of county HP fame. I did both spots; Fred did both spots...
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Edward "7.389056099" ...
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Sep 6, 2000 2:28 pm
I have developed an alternative to prominence which solves the "winner take all" problem of standard prominence. I call it "proportional prominence", and it...
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Andy Martin
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Sep 6, 2000 3:27 pm
(Edward) ... (Andy) Interesting concept - a new one to me. ... Seems like you have a problem that is similar to elevation-based lists, and solution will be...
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Bob and Rhonda Bolton
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Sep 7, 2000 5:33 am
(I'm sure BB will be happy about the way this affects the NCs!) ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Bob and Rhonda Bolton
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Sep 7, 2000 5:35 am
(Andy) I kinda like these lower peaks on the CA list ... (BB) I don't! (Big surprise!!) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Edward "7.389056099" ...
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Sep 7, 2000 6:23 am
... Generally, I don't expect PP to be very useful for generating lists or compiling statistics, and I have some mathematical conjectures to back it up. I do,...
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Edward "7.389056099" ...
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Sep 7, 2000 6:23 am
... This is actually a lot easier than you're making it seem. My prominence algorithm begins by deriving a DLPR tree, which is an abstract "stick model" of...
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Andy Martin
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Sep 7, 2000 3:36 pm
To: prominence and cohp@egroups A list of the 50 peaks with most prominence in the SE USA follows. Some notes: 1. Area is east of the Mississippi and south of...
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Andy Martin
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Sep 7, 2000 3:49 pm
(Andy) ... (BB) ... To be a bit more specific, the top 10 in CA by prominence are: PEAK PEAK MAP PROMINENCE SADDLE SADDLE MAP AND...
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Andy Martin
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Sep 8, 2000 12:21 am
To: Fred, prominence@egroups.com (Fred) Enjoyed reading the southeastern 50 most prominent list (sorry, JM!), especially as I've been up more than 30 of them. ...
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Ronald Tagliapietra
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Sep 8, 2000 1:09 am
The list looks good. I checked it against my top 25 notes and see that the differences are mostly explained by my use of spot elevations for gaps, where...
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David Metzler
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Sep 8, 2000 1:11 am
I've had a go at trying to find the Canada 50 finest (i.e. most prominent). Anyone else have such a list? A lot of my saddles are +/- 250 feet since they are...
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Ronald Tagliapietra
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Sep 8, 2000 1:35 am
... My count is 28 (described but not totaled in last post). Apparently, as I guessed, there were CHPs in the lower end of the list. Congrats Fred. He will...
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Andy Martin
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Sep 8, 2000 3:36 pm
(David M) ... (Andy) Don't know of a list, and would enjoy seeing what you have come up with. By the way, David Olson just snail mailed me a list of Swiss ...
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Andy Martin
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Sep 8, 2000 3:46 pm
(Fred - Bluff Mtn. access info) Thanks for the clarification. For those wishing to claim Bluff Mtn., it's owned by the Nature Conservancy, which conducts hikes...
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David Metzler
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Sep 9, 2000 4:46 pm
Listed below is a preliminary version of the Canadian peaks above 5000 feet prominence. It is rough in a few ways: -- a few high prom peaks may be missing (but...
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Andy Martin
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Sep 10, 2000 9:08 pm
(Andy) A couple posts from Steve Fry follow. The second has some hard data on steepest mountain faces. (Steve Fry) Subject: Steepness, Rise Above Base and...
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Andy Martin
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Sep 11, 2000 5:46 pm
To: prominence@egroups.com , Fred L - A STATISTICS RELATED TO PROMINENCE table is attached (best viewed with wide display). The open question is to get a...
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Ronald Tagliapietra
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Sep 12, 2000 4:27 am
SE list is interesting. I think that the decimals in the totals are misleading, though. Border peaks should be counted in both states. NC certainly can claim...
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Andy Martin
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Sep 12, 2000 8:38 pm
(Ron - SE prominence list) ... Note that the Breakdown by state chart is only shown on the online version, but will not be published. A better breakdown might...
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Roy Schweiker
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Sep 14, 2000 5:10 am
Hiked another of the VT 50 most prominent, then discovered yet another case where the digital data placed the HP on the wrong quad, for a net gain of 0. Maybe...
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Andy Martin
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Sep 18, 2000 2:11 am
To - prominence@egroups.com, Andy Bates, Guy, Mike Coltrin, Bob, Mark. Had a lot of fun this weekend figuring the prominence of all the summits (300' drop) and...
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Karen & John Roper
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Sep 20, 2000 4:27 am
(Andy) ... At least in this Prominence group venue, my suggestion is that we list Prominence numbers in the "clean, clear, unequivocal way," as the so-called...
