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569 David Metzler
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Jul 2, 2002
8:16 pm
Regarding the discussion on highly prominent but not locally striking peaks: It may be interesting to look at the following table of the Imp values of the Top...
570 martin@...
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Jul 2, 2002
10:48 pm
David Metzler ... This is a good excuse to dig up a blast from the past, the NEAREST HIGHER list by Carl Mills and David Olson from 1996 (attached). Cherry...
571 Alun-Peter Fisher
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Jul 3, 2002
2:15 am
Edward Earl writes> ... I'll see your humbles, and raise you tuppence. (And pardon me jumping-in here, first time from lurkerdom, introduced to here via RHB.)...
572 Alun-Peter Fisher
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Jul 3, 2002
2:16 am
Dave Metzler writes>> ... Personally, in my early bagging days, I imagined altitude first, then reckoned on what you here call prominence, and then isolation....
573 David Metzler
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Jul 3, 2002
3:01 pm
... I figured that this might have already been looked at. Good to see the list, although I am not as interested in the distance from a state boundary. Dave M....
574 David Metzler
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Jul 3, 2002
3:22 pm
... I used to think so as well; I did not like idea of making the arbitrary choices necessary for a local-relief measurement. However Imp has fewer arbitrary...
575 martin@...
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Jul 3, 2002
4:38 pm
(Alun - listing isolated peaks) ... Interesting discussion. There are several Mid-West outliers that would do well in an isolation list - Magazine Mountain AR...
576 David Metzler
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Jul 3, 2002
5:13 pm
(Andy Martin:) ... One could also look at the distance to a summit with higher prominence. This is like (3) but without an arbitrary summit criterion. This...
577 martin@...
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Jul 5, 2002
4:15 pm
(Andy) Following article is describes use of the new Brunton Sherpa digital altimeter to determine a highest point between three possible canidates. Note that...
578 Bob Bolton
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Jul 5, 2002
10:35 pm
<Dave> Elbert's high Prom rating comes largely from its being so far from higher terrain; this doesn't make it amazing to look at, but that is why it is...
579 Greg Slayden
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Jul 9, 2002
1:03 am
I just joined this group after a tip from Andy Martin. I have been collecting peak data, and I have done a very rough pass at the peaks furthest from a higher...
580 Edward "7.389056099" ...
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Jul 9, 2002
3:49 pm
I should note that at one time, "mileage" was the usual term for the concept of the distance from a peak to the nearest higher object (be it a peak, or the ...
581 Alun-Peter Fisher
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Jul 9, 2002
4:05 pm
"Edward \"7.389056099\" Earl" writes> ... Thus using neraest speck of dirt is the least arbitrary and the best choice, yes? ... Seconded, great stuff. Edward,...
582 martin@...
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Jul 9, 2002
9:28 pm
(Greg Slayden - excerpt from his lower 48 list of peaks with nothing higher within 250 miles) Draft - Lower 48 USA "Mileage" list - Draft Peak Mileage...
583 amaizlish Offline Send Email Jul 9, 2002
11:55 pm
Greetings mountain mathematicians, I worked up an "Isolation List" for the lower 48 states. Keep in mind that the following is a very prelim list, and anyone...
584 Greg Slayden
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Jul 10, 2002
12:48 am
At the bottom of this post is my first take on the most isolated peak in 45 states. The 5 states I omitted (CT, MD, DE, RI, NJ) have peaks with the lowest...
585 Roy Schweiker
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Jul 10, 2002
2:51 am
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:48:48 -0700 "Greg Slayden" ... Amazing list! ... Moosilauke ... This one is wrong - I think there are points within 25 miles on the ...
586 amaizlish Offline Send Email Jul 10, 2002
8:10 pm
I updated the Lower-48 list that I posted yesterday, incorporating some of the mountains that Greg added on his impressive list. The following could be called...
587 Roy Schweiker
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Jul 10, 2002
8:57 pm
... Presumably this is in PA? ... Remember that it is claimed that "Grove Hill" in Osceola Co. is actually the Lower Peninsula HP. -rs ...
588 martin@...
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Jul 10, 2002
9:04 pm
Great "isolation" list work by Greg and Adam ! Some statistics on the "100 mile" list. [points 100 miles from a higher point] 19 are state HPs. The remaining...
589 Peter Ridges
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Jul 11, 2002
10:53 am
Many thanks to the compilers of these lists. (Andy) ... On a more quantitative level, what's the highest prominence/ isolation ratio (for a minimum prominence...
590 David Metzler
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Jul 11, 2002
3:11 pm
(Peter) ... Can anyone beat San Jacinto, Prom/Isol ~= 0.074 for a high ratio, and Sugarloaf Mtn FL, Prom/Isol ~=0.00024 for a low ratio? Dave M....
591 martin@...
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Jul 11, 2002
5:18 pm
(David Metzler) ... For the high ratios we need to set minimal horizontal separation distances, or otherwise degenerate cases could set the worldwide records. ...
592 David Metzler
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Jul 11, 2002
5:30 pm
... Andy is right to note that you need some cutoffs. However I was assuming Peter's proposed (if arbitrary) cutoffs of ... This eliminates examples like Lost...
593 amaizlish Offline Send Email Jul 11, 2002
6:23 pm
I think San Jacinto wins for the US. Other non-isolated prominences would be Mt Hood, and Mauna Loa. The WW record-holder would be interesting as a sort of ...
594 martin@...
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Jul 11, 2002
7:23 pm
(Steve Gruhn) For some reason, I can't post to the prominence group, but thought you might be interested... Steve From: Steven Gruhn= To:...
595 martin@...
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Jul 12, 2002
4:29 pm
Ran into an interesting article in The Angry Corrie, Aug 2002 issue. [the tac web page bubl.ac.uk/org/tacit/tac is down at the moment]. Chris Pearson writes of...
596 Peter Ridges
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Jul 12, 2002
9:42 pm
Just a note regarding my arbitrary cut-off points: when I suggested 1000', I wrongly guessed that the winner would be way above 1000', which was confirmed by...
597 Mark D Adrian
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Jul 15, 2002
8:22 pm
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 05:44:35 -0700 "Edward \"7.389056099\" Earl" ... Edward, since you're pretty good with these prominence calculations, I have a question or ...
598 martin@...
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Jul 15, 2002
9:03 pm
(Mark - prominence based on center of the earth) ... (Andy) Prominence is calculated just as "shoulder drop" is calculated Peak elev in sea level - key saddle...
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