... Congratulations to John and company for the completion of a very large, time consuming and useful project. The 300'P cutoff is also good for Arizona to...
mnichols@...
Sep 1, 2006 4:37 pm
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Dennis Poulin has just hosted a page at summitpost dedicated to the prominence peaks of the fair state of Oregon. This should end up being a great source of...
The new Summitpost page dedicated to Oregon Prominence Peaks can be found at: http://www.summitpost.org/view_object.php?object_id=222534 Most of the work is...
With about 1500' prominence, Mount Powell is the most prominent point in the county of McKinley NM. It is the HP of a long line of cliffs sprawled along the ...
Mollies Nipple has about 1250' prominence and is one of two candidates for the most prominent point in Kane county UT. I climbed it on the return leg of a trip...
Roof Butte has about 3150' prominence, ranking 22nd in AZ by that measure. I had originally planned to climb Roof Butte on the return leg of a recent trip to...
Edward - Your "automatic response" on descent is vital to fighter pilots in a heated dogfight - wherein it of often claimed, "If you have time to think...
Adam Helman
helman@...
Sep 14, 2006 12:01 am
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(Rob) ... prominence peaks (Andy) Wow - you really cut a broad swath through France Rob ! Nice trip reports on these peaks - these should come in handy for...
Pilot Peak, Nevada Trip Report Andy Martin and Mark Nichols September 6, 2006 Pilot Peak NV, not far north of Wendover NV/UT, is one of the tougher "Ultras" in...
A note on Pilot: with a reduced spire measure (and pure spire measure) of 478m, Pilot Peak ranks 43rd in the contiguous US, and is the best peak outside of...
More than anything in Colorado! What about Lizard Head (in the San Juan Range near Mount Wilson), or some awesome needle in Monument Valley? I am impressed. ...
Adam Helman
helman@...
Sep 16, 2006 3:47 am
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Have drafted reports for Apache, Maple, Bryce and Peacock, and added them to older reports. Info follows - Andy AZ prominence trip reports by Andy Martin ...
Time to update the FRL, and fix any glitches. Please send updates to me at oldadit @ gmail.com or oldadit @ iname.com (you will need to remove spaces) The...
Yes, Pilot beats everything in Colorado or Arizona. The highest in Colorado is Mount Sopris at 422m (see www.peaklist.org/spire/lists). Lizard Head, while...
Thanks for the cogent and detailed verification, David M. When you describe the San Juans as "consistently highest part of the lower 48" one tends to agree ......
Adam Helman
helman@...
Sep 17, 2006 7:15 am
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Just a reminder that this can be a very dangerous hobby: http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/atoz/article_1170528.php...
In our ceaseless attempts to shanghai unsuspecting mountaineers into the Century Club, I recently tackled Fred Beckey, North Americas noted first ascent champ....
in my opinion west side routes on Apache Pks are best avoided. i made one half-assed attempt up the west ridge of point 6910 as far as an extremely steep scree...
Just off the top of my head---Beckey has definitely climbed Denali: he put up the first ascent of the Northwest Buttress. Also, Devils Thumb has a prom of...
Mr. Beckey would not give a damn about prominence. He cares about the ROUTE and not the mountain's summit per se. I personally have a problem with filling the...
Adam Helman
helman@...
Sep 18, 2006 4:41 am
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... I agree with Adam wholeheartedly about this. Ryan Richardson...
I'm not sure it's correct that Fred Beckey would not give a damn about prominence. It is clearly not a measure he would use to select his climbs, but he has a...
My chief concern about adding non-prominence-oriented climbers to the prominence FRL is that it takes a set of records that are a reasonable approximation of...
Adam Helman
helman@...
Sep 18, 2006 6:45 pm
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I agree with Adam's points, and would add another: Unless we communicate personally with these world-class climbers or have access to a comprehensive list of...
To widen this thread to those of us who are prominence baggers on this side of the Atlantic, I agree with Adam on this point. Any list that includes...
Adam, this is rather ridiculous. Are you saying a prominence climber would want to be ignorant of the achievements of non-prominence climbers? I would say...
I look forward to what Andy M. has to say about all of this. He'll be home from work shortly ...and will almost certainly reply in his usual, congenial style...
Adam Helman
helman@...
Sep 19, 2006 12:26 am
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One compromise that (might) satisfy you and I is to maintain a pair of separate "Earth Fifty Finest" FRLs for prominence-oriented climbers and for the general...
