I just sent a friendly message to this person to explore his sanity - yet without mention of "prominence" because that's Edward's affair and not mine. ...
Adam Helman
helman@...
Jun 4, 2006 11:04 pm
3521
Here are a few notes on recent trip to CA. Sorry, but I'm not consistent on clean or interpolated prominences. Maturango Pk (8839, P = 3639) with Andy Martin,...
(Bob Packard) If you care to update me at this point Andy I now have 536 2K peaks ... Glad to do the updating. Say - just noticed that you are the only person ...
I consider the "ultra" summit category as important as the three categories that you have already listed, Andy. Look at the distribution of numbers of...
Adam Helman
helman@...
Jun 8, 2006 6:25 am
3524
What about this John? And why does it tell me that I have 453 and yet credit me with 440 when it lists the top runners? OK, sorry, it now gives me public...
I recently told the world that I had 445 lower 48 2K's, but when I went to JKirk's lists it told me I had 453 (although the opening page said I had 440). So, ...
The gap in the count had to do with an auto-rank display where I forgot to exclude the pre-eruption prominence of Mount Saint Helens, which would have given it...
I'm interested in the prominence criterion used in different states to define what constitutes a separate mountain as opposed to a subpeak. Colorado seems to...
Wikipedia is incorrect in stating that 200 meters is used as a cutoff to establish separate peaks. Since the vast majority of detailed maps of Alaska are in...
Steven Gruhn
Steven.Gruhn@...
Jun 12, 2006 6:22 pm
3529
... Actually, the situation for the Southern Sixers is a bit more complicated. For instance, Potato Hill (6440+) in the Black Mtns makes the list, despite the...
Steve (and everybody)---I see that the original author of the 200m claim in the Wikipedia article "Fourteener" has already edited the page and changed it to...
I had some discussion with Mouser Williams about this already. Here is what I sent him. A cursory review of the Fourteener page shows that there are some ...
Steven Gruhn
Steven.Gruhn@...
Jun 12, 2006 8:51 pm
3532
... I made the changes to the Fourteener article, though I didn't invent the 200m claim. If it appeared on that page during an edit of mine, then I copied it...
Thanks Steve for the information from Alaska. The use of feet sure makes sense with most of the maps having contours in feet. I think both peaks on Mt....
Jerry, In Europe (including England) we are pretty set now in prominence/drop circles on using P1500m for Ultras, P600m for Majors, and also P300m, P150m and...
... Taking the world as a whole, there is unlikely to be a fixed answer to this (especially as an absolute figure in metres) I offer two different perspectives...
The Colorado fourteener list _officially_ uses a 500 foot cutoff criterion. However the list was modified to include peaks of historical interest and "personal...
Adam Helman
helman@...
Jun 13, 2006 1:35 am
3537
(Gordon - prominence to rate as a separate peak) ... acceptable ... I think this is a good way to look at the problem. Then an individual can determine: 1. The...
This is EXACTLY what I suspected regarding Alaska - 1,000 feet - and certainly not metric; and why I expressed concern over the original reference for the ...
Adam Helman
helman@...
Jun 13, 2006 2:21 am
3539
I've never heard of a 500' list for Colorado. That would be 46 peaks, and 45 if not using interpolation. Everyone here generally accepts that there are 53...
... Actually, that's a widespread myth. The CO 14ers list actually uses a 500 foot cutoff, which would recognize 48 separate 14ers. However, some influential ...
... (Andy) Think the 300' standard existed well before cohping got popular. Bob Martin has been hiking 300' prominence mountains for about 25 (?) years now. He...
I did not see Adam's posts appear on Yahoo groups either, but appreciate getting his comments by separate e-mail. ... ...not on earth, but maybe summits like...
... In the Adirondacks of NY, the original cutoff was 300 feet or a separation of 3/4 mile. The Adk 46 Club stuck to their original list even when better maps...
Thanks for your comments, Jerry B. I have since received my own posted messages - they only took about twelve hours to be received ... and making me think that...
Adam Helman
helman@...
Jun 13, 2006 10:36 am
3545
Thanks, Aaron M. Quite a belated reply for an old topic - you must be quite busy these days! Aaron refers to the Coxcomb Range highpoint (P = 2,544 feet) in...
Adam Helman
helman@...
Jun 13, 2006 10:42 am
3546
Hello John, My source for the 500 foot cutoff rule is Edward Earl, who states without reservation (whenever I claimed previously that a 300 foot rule is...
Adam Helman
helman@...
Jun 13, 2006 10:59 am
3547
This is basically my argument given earlier about the 500 foot criterion - the Fourteener list _APPEARS_ to be a 300 foot list ONLY because personal favorites...
Adam Helman
helman@...
Jun 13, 2006 11:07 am
3548
Hi, years before I was going online, I found, that to separate mountains from Main- and subsidiary peaks there must be a unique number for ALL mountains in the...
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