Hello from Adam, This Washington Post article tells the story - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/26/AR2006022600396.html [Cutting...
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Mar 1, 2006 8:42 am
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Tuesday's USA Today Life section mentioned the eruption of Mount Tambora Indonesia. They claimed the peak was nearly 14,000 feet tall, and is now 9,200 feet...
A recent on the TV History Channel features "The Little Ice Age" - a spell of colder climate from the 13th through the 19th Centuries. Tambora caused the "Year...
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Mar 2, 2006 3:05 am
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That would have given (modern-day) Indonesia 5 of the World's Top 50, which is quite a hefty percentage for a country of that size. Personally I think Mt...
Have been busy seeking out folks to add to the world 50 roster. Have recently found eight, and there are more out there ... 1) Pick of the Planet World Top 50...
A couple (Gerhard Schmatz, Josep Pujante) of the 7 summiteers have also completed the 7 islands project. A translated web page gives some info here: ...
Here is another way to look at prominence. From time to time some of you have expressed dismay at the fact that major peaks have prominence that results from a...
Here is the latest rough draft of candidates for the lowest P300 in each state. Thanks to Carl Mills, who submitted many candidates, especially in eastern...
... I believe this measure favors isolated peaks far too much. Such a list would be less impressive to most climbers. A very flat mountain ridge could have a...
... Whitney is going to beat Elbert any way it's done, I think. ... Andy, I just suggested the same thing a few hours ago, and for the same reasons. I think I...
Curvature Adjusted Prominence is quite an interesting concept, especially on a World scale. Thanks for your note. However I have a few minor observations:- 1....
What if we compute Curvature Adjusted Prominence from the near point as suggested? Here's the answer for Hawaii. Mauna Kea from the near shore gets 13594 ft...
I must be misunderstanding the CAP procedure, but if you go from the furthest point on the saddle contour and subtract the height of the mountain that is over...
Replying to Mouser: yes, this is a misunderstanding. Jerry's suggestion was, for each contour within the prominence island, find the furthest point on that...
(David) ... slightly differently, or it may have been even simpler: just delete the restriction to the prominence island. It still makes perfect sense to look...
Hmmm, the math here is probably beyond my grasp or perhaps I'm also misunderstanding the concept. But if you go beyond the bounds of the prominence island then...
... (Note however that 'visible height' here is just a suggestive phrase for the curvature-adjusted height difference, and doesn't imply an actual line of...
I wouldn't say that the non-prominence island version of CAP is a substitute for cliff or spire measure, although Eric does point out the similarity....
Thanks for the clarification David. I think I may have not fully realized that the consequence of the curvature of the earth in most cases is minimal and...
I have read with amusement, and a good measure of scientific curiosity, the current discussion about CAP ("curvature adjusted prominence"). On seeing the first...
Adam Helman
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Mar 6, 2006 7:05 pm
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(Andy) ... (Andy) While driving to work, I came up with another factor - namely "1". This would mean that "visible height" is limited by the actual prominence...
... "level ... prominence ... Not quite. Actually, the Earth model assumed in CAP has curvature inverse to the actual Earth (upward, so that in effect, we have...
(Adam): At this second order level of theory it is INSUFFICIENT to account for ... (Andrew Usher): Why do you think this? That is, to all practical accuracy,...
Adam Helman
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Mar 7, 2006 5:04 am
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(Adam) ... (Jerry) Agreed. ... Yes, that is the effect I am looking for. A summit on the Moon with the same elevation and distance to contours will have a...
<Jerry writes about small planets> ... It would be interesting to see the results for Malapert Mountain near the Moon's south pole. The mountain is so high...
... nonzero eccentricity. ... polar ... even for "standard" ... Adam, please read this paragraph again: (Andrew) ... The global model form from the CAP...
Hello Andrew, If you want to comprehend my arguments then let's take it off the discussion group and have a short private E-mail thread. Nobody else is...
Adam Helman
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Mar 8, 2006 1:50 am
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... Yes, that is the point. Prominence overrates mountains with a distant key saddle, like everyone's least favorite, Elbert. ... In fact, such a planet would...