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Re: [prominence] "exotic" ultras

> Just what IS an "exotic" ultra?
>
> I heard this descriptor on my recent Mexico trip and wonder how one would
> define the genre.
> It's a topic of paramount importance to some peakbaggers - or at least it
> should be because
> the majority of Earth's ultras are likely "exotic". They are generally
> overlooked in favor of more
> commonly sought, logistically easier peaks more widely known to the climbing
> community -
> and yet are ultra mountains all-the-same.
>
> Perhaps some actual EXAMPLES serve best to provide a definition....
>
> * Any ultra in Alaska's backcountry apart from Denali -
> such as Mount Chamberlin in the Brooks Range.
>
I would specifically mention the Aleutian Islands here.

> I would not classify ANY of the contiguous USA 57 ultras
> as exotic - not even Gannett Peak, Wyoming or Mount Olympus
> despite their remoteness from pavement.
>
Agreed.

> However if it WERE an ultra, I would call Mount Stimson "exotic"
> in Glacier National Park, Montana.
>
I disagree here. I would not call Mt Stimson "exotic", ultra or not. It's in a
national park. In fact, I cannot think of *any* peak in the lower 48, of any
prominence, that I would call exotic. I might change my mind on that, if someone
mentions a peak I haven't yet thought of.

I would, however, call Kawaikini exotic.

I'd like to hear other people's answers to this question: what is the most
prominent exotic peak in the world? I have my answer, and I predict that almost
everyone will give an answer that's one of two peaks.


Edward "7.389056099" Earl
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Just what IS an "exotic" ultra? I heard this descriptor on my recent Mexico trip and wonder how one would define the genre. It's a topic of paramount...
Adam Helman
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Feb 8, 2012
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"exotic" probably isn't the right word to describe the concept. Others which come to mind as meeting the criteria you enumerate are: Poco Ngandonalu, Flores...
Rob Woodall
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Feb 8, 2012
1:59 pm

... Of course not. That's too restrictive. Perhaps once a standard route is established, or even an actual footpath, THEN it's no longer in the same category. ...
Adam Helman
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Feb 8, 2012
7:29 pm

... It is indeed a Bjorstadism. IIRC, it would also include summits in countries that weren't easy to visit. Once there you might discover some quite trivial...
Rob Woodall
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Feb 9, 2012
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So Petter B. first used the expression. As reply to Edward Earl's question, I'd like to hear other people's answers to this question: what is the most ...
Adam Helman
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Feb 9, 2012
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... I'm pretty sure I can get to 300 without thinking too hard about it before going near anything which is exotic in the sense of little known or untrodden....
Lee Newton
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Feb 16, 2012
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... I would specifically mention the Aleutian Islands here. ... Agreed. ... I disagree here. I would not call Mt Stimson "exotic", ultra or not. It's in a ...
Edward "7.389056099" ...
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Feb 8, 2012
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... YEP. Going there in eleven months! ... Pico Cristobal Colon in Colombia. Not going THERE anytime soon. - Adam H. [Non-text portions of this message have...
Adam Helman
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Feb 8, 2012
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(Edward) ... Check out the 5 tan colored peaks sitting just south of Lake Powell on this map: ...
Andy Martin
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Feb 9, 2012
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... Actually, an exotic peak would be an adventure, because an "adventure", as I defined it in the scheme that Adam just mentioned, is already a non-classic, ...
Edward "7.389056099" ...
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Feb 9, 2012
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My my reckoning there were "near exotics" in the Great Basin before John Hart wrote "Hiking the Great Basin" for the Sierra Club. Mount Dubois in the Whites...
David Mason
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Feb 9, 2012
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... I think that technology also plays a part. Right now peaks in the Aleutians and the HP of Australia on Heard Island that even BP won't do are exotic...
Roy Schweiker
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Feb 9, 2012
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"Ranges along the Virginia-West Virginia border, across the Maryland Panhandle and up into Pennsylvania? Navigating obscure parts of that whole region and...
rick shortt
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Feb 9, 2012
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My personal favourite is the high point of the Prinsesse Caroline-Mathilde Alper, Hahn Land, NE Greenland. It appears to have no official name but I suggest...
Jonathan de Ferranti
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Feb 11, 2012
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This one makes the alternative descriptor "way-out" seem quite appropriate. Adam H. ... From: Jonathan de Ferranti To: prominence@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday,...
Adam Helman
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Feb 11, 2012
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Hi Jonathan, I have (prematurely) posted ..../mountains/1500mtn/Hallingskarvet/4437-4443.jpg (from .../1500mtn/hellevassfonni.html) Position is North...
Petter Bjørstad
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Mar 5, 2012
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Hi Petter, The computer generated drawing identifying the peaks is at http://www.viewfinderpanoramas.org/panoramas/NOR/HELLEVASSFONNI.gif Some readers may also...
Jonathan de Ferranti
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Mar 6, 2012
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Intensive climbing and trekking activity, with increasing commercialization of accomodations in parts of the Himalaya such as the Everest and Annapurna regions...
David Mason
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Feb 11, 2012
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