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7655
While I hesitate to re-open this discussion, I feel I must because of the obvious, to me, way that the thinking is wandering off the purpose of a true...
dynawing1@...
dynawing_2001
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Nov 1, 2003
4:23 pm
7656
I just posted some pics of my sort of finished 16' 3part vaka proa in the files section (PedalSail Proa). Most of the last 10 or so pics in the list are from...
Gary Lepak
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Nov 1, 2003
6:56 pm
7657
While posting pics in my file today I noticed the section is almost full. I deleted most of another file I had there from over a year ago. Perhaps we should...
Gary Lepak
gnjlepak
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Nov 1, 2003
7:02 pm
7658
Hi Good idea on the pf2 group, I'll set it up Monday. I'm interested in your foam outrigger. What layup did you use over the foam, and how hard is the...
k_s_oneill
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Nov 1, 2003
7:08 pm
7659
Hi Kevin, I have built other foam boats and boards, and consider two layers of 6 oz to be minimum to prevent damage from sitting on a beach or much dragging up...
Gary Lepak
gnjlepak
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Nov 1, 2003
7:22 pm
7660
dynawing1@... wrote: <Big snip> ... One only has to look at Abbott & von Doenhoff "Theory of Wing Section" where the data on about 75 wing sections is...
Peter Raymond
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Nov 1, 2003
10:36 pm
7661
The boat looks great Gary! 55 pounds, wow. Ron...
Ron Badley
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Nov 2, 2003
3:25 am
7662
... Firstly, the problem of designing a sail is different from that of designing a wing. An aircraft wing must satisfy the conditions of high lift at lower...
Malcolm Smith
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Nov 2, 2003
4:17 am
7663
Could you please explain again how the bow and stern are attached to the centre section of the main hull? Thanks Brad...
bradwoodbr
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Nov 2, 2003
4:26 am
7664
Each piece has a 4mm ply bulkhead, doubled where the bolts go through. There are four 1/4" (6mm) stainless bolts, one in each corner, for each pair of...
Gary Lepak
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Nov 2, 2003
7:38 pm
7665
Gary, Thanks for your explanation. I read it through while checking the photos and can see how well it works. I thought your construction method of the ama was...
bradwoodbr
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Nov 3, 2003
12:30 am
7666
Can anyone give answers to any of these questions? - What are the advantages, if any, of having rocker in a hull which does not have to be very manouverable? -...
ljc_87au
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Nov 3, 2003
9:31 am
7667
G'day, 1) No rocker is easy to build, higher top speed, lower light air performance. Unless the boat doesn't draw much, it will be hard to steer at low...
Rob Denney
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Nov 3, 2003
1:13 pm
7668
... If the rocker leads to small prismatic or waterplane coefficient, it will generate pitching specially when displacement length ratio is high. Looks nice in...
terhohalme
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Nov 3, 2003
3:08 pm
7669
I've created the proa_file2 group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proa_file2/ If we overflow here we can post images and files there. It might be a good...
k_s_oneill
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Nov 3, 2003
4:37 pm
7670
... For elliptical cross section hulls, I am assuming that there is slight leeway in spite of the foils, though not necessarily in the case of twin rudders....
Robert
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Nov 4, 2003
1:35 am
7671
... A symmetrically built hull when heeled 5-10 degrees will exhibit a waterplane shape which is adversely asymmetrical (bulging to leeward). An asymmetrically...
Gary Dierking
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Nov 4, 2003
2:12 am
7673
Tom and Ron I've followed with some homework ;) Please find in /Files/Hull_types four drawings of four hull types: deep-V-asymmetrical, deep-V-symmetrical, ...
Janusz Ostrowski
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Nov 4, 2003
9:16 am
7674
... I'll give an answer. Whether anyone else agrees with me is a different matter! 1. Rocker allows you to use weight shift fore-and-aft to move the centre of ...
S Fishwick
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Nov 4, 2003
9:39 am
7675
Ron It took me some more time to produce some output, hope it's not too late. As I'm not professional designer I cannot prepare data for you in those fancy...
Janusz Ostrowski
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Nov 4, 2003
9:46 am
7676
... centre of ... reducing drag ... shift ... the ... Well, I'll give my thaughts Rocker increases the draught at the centre of the length. This has The...
fghmurcia
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Nov 4, 2003
10:41 am
7677
... A better question might be "can any two people give the same answers?" You've kicked off a good discussion, way to go. ... My 21' hull has about 6" of...
k_s_oneill
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Nov 4, 2003
5:35 pm
7679
... From: "Robert" <cateran1949@...> ... Which way would you be proposing to camber the hulls? The only way I can see assymmetry would help this...
Tom Speer
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Nov 4, 2003
9:44 pm
7680
Thanks Tom, Makes perfect sense. I think I was tring to reduce the angle of attack of the hull, ie having an assymetric bow, but I can see that would also...
Robert
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Nov 4, 2003
10:51 pm
7681
Thanks Tom, As usual you are able to put the theory in a nutshell clear for everybody. One of the possibilities for performance improvement for proas is the...
merijnwijnen
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Nov 4, 2003
11:06 pm
7682
ABE.com has the following listed: ********************************** ALDEN, WILLIAM L. THE FLYING PROA HARPER'S NEW MONTHLY MAGAZINE, 1877 HARPER'S NEW MONTHLY...
k_s_oneill
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Nov 5, 2003
10:21 pm
7683
-Mal or anyone, how do I avoid confusing camber and thickness? Brian Cady ... [snip] In my testing of the ... which ... in ... with a ... mechanisn to ... ...
briancady413
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Nov 6, 2003
3:01 am
7684
... From: "Janusz Ostrowski" <oj1jo@...> ... Yes! Kudos for looking at design variations while keeping the key parameters constant. ... I depends on the...
Tom Speer
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Nov 6, 2003
3:18 am
7685
... From: "Robert" <cateran1949@...> ... Yes, drag is the real question! Since the total lift from the hull is determined by the sail rig, it...
Tom Speer
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Nov 6, 2003
4:11 am
7686
By example: A single surface fabric sail has a thickness approaching 0% of the chord, but will usually be cambered (curved in section from luff to leach) in...
Malcolm Smith
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Nov 6, 2003
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