Eric, Have a look at: http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/garyd/slatts.html Given your company's expertise on foils, this concept ought to be like falling off a...
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Rob Denney
carbondesign@...
May 1, 2001 4:00 pm
This arena of coarse, high-level experimentation leaves many questions to be ... G'day, I agree, but some of us have been doing this for awhile. Dave with his ...
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K_S_ONeill@...
May 1, 2001 8:25 pm
... rather ... the ... tip ... OK. ... need ... rig. ... I don't pretend to know as much about development classes as you guys, but I don't see how this really...
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K_S_ONeill@...
May 1, 2001 8:45 pm
... rather ... the ... tip ... OK. ... need ... rig. ... I don't pretend to know as much about development classes as you guys, but I don't see how this really...
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Robert Biegler
Robert.Biegler@...
May 1, 2001 8:50 pm
... In that case, why have a class at all? I mean, it would be wonderful if a true development class, like the IYRU 10 sqm, A, B and C classes with only sail...
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Dave Culp
dave@...
May 1, 2001 9:43 pm
... I was gonna say essentially the same thing, but now it's "me too." The Slatts 22 was making waves (albeit smaller ones) at about the same time as the...
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hbijlard@...
May 1, 2001 11:47 pm
In the past I've just chosen the 'stayed balestron' concept as the most suitable solution for my boat. Now it's time for me to focus on the design of the...
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Dave Culp
dave@...
May 1, 2001 11:48 pm
... Sorry, sorry, NOT Greg Barker, but Greg Jacobs, <GregJ7@...> Dave Culp...
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Dave Culp
dave@...
May 2, 2001 12:04 am
... Which pretty much answers your own question, does it not? I couldn't have put it better. This is precisely why these classes are inactive today, IMO. ... ...
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Gary Dierking
garyd@...
May 2, 2001 12:39 am
... Yes I did, but I'll have to go look for it again as that was a while ago. Warren Seaman still lives in Los Angeles so you might be able to get his phone ...
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fgh@...
May 2, 2001 1:37 am
... downwards, ... loosly) ... foil pulling ... foil still ... downward ... the ... section of ... was ... should side ... downwards, ... Yesssss, Vector Fin...
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Rob Denney
carbondesign@...
May 2, 2001 1:41 am
... G'day, The reason for pushing the class is to see what makes boats fast. Weight restrictions, however achieved, will not do this. Therefore, bite the ...
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Rob Denney
carbondesign@...
May 2, 2001 2:47 am
G'day, Valid points, but they don't address the 2 main problems. 1) How do you stop people getting around the cost/weight rule? You suggest some possible ...
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Rob Denney
carbondesign@...
May 2, 2001 2:49 am
G'day Han, Glad you are making progress. I can run some numbers through my spreadsheet, which will give you mast weights and diameters. Serious laminate...
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Rob Denney
carbondesign@...
May 2, 2001 2:57 am
... G'day, I agree entirely. Hopefully, Harry will be chasing sterns next summer. As for the new class, your suggestions re beating existing boats are my ...
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Ron Badley
badley@...
May 2, 2001 5:49 am
... I'd build a tacking outrigger. The main hull would be around 7m long. Not too skinny, around 8-1 for a shallow-ish skinny skiff type hull that will plane....
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WindRider ottc
windline@...
May 2, 2001 10:31 am
Hi Gary, Thanks. I've talked with John. Very interesting concept that we are considering. -- Eric Arens WindRider of the Treasure Coast P.O. Box 2457, Jupiter,...
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Rob Denney
carbondesign@...
May 2, 2001 1:13 pm
G'day, Well said. Your stories support a no cost limits class even better than a cost/weight limited one. All the cheap, rough and ready windsurfers and other...
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John Dalziel
johndl@...
May 2, 2001 4:21 pm
... OK, what's the contradiction? Decent participation in one expensive class, no participation to speak of in another. If cost is not the main issue, then is...
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hbijlard@...
May 2, 2001 8:28 pm
In een bericht met de datum 2-5-01 11:41:34 West-Europa (zomertijd), schrijft...
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Gary Dierking
garyd@...
May 2, 2001 9:10 pm
... I think this approach would be a great help and It would certainly attract a much wider participation. Quite frankly I've always found racing around ...
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fgh@...
May 2, 2001 9:54 pm
Let me tell some thaugths about the tacking outrigger and Bruce foil, or Vector fin. First I consider the tacking outriger a very interesting idea, which is...
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lcoquilleau@...
May 2, 2001 11:38 pm
... <snip> ... think ... <snip> ... John, Watch out what you say about Renault Dauphine; there are French members in this list... ;o) Laurent...
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Roy Mills
rsirfj@...
May 3, 2001 1:39 am
... From: <hbijlard@...> <big snip> much less if I've to ... Han, When I was contemplating something similar, having built a Gougeon Wing mast for my cat, I...
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Dave Howorth
dave.howorth@...
May 3, 2001 2:38 am
... I'm not sure that is the case. He said that an angle of 35* (from the horizontal) was too shallow and created surface waves, and so recommended 45*, but I...
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Robert Biegler
Robert.Biegler@...
May 3, 2001 8:11 am
... There are four other solutions, besides the board in the bow. One is the equivalent in the air, a mizzen you use only on the tack with the foil on the lee...
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fgh@...
May 3, 2001 9:30 am
The point is to have some weather helm when the Bruce foil is to leeward and neutral or little lee helm when the foil is to winward. Fulgencio ... on the ... ...
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Dave Howorth
dave.howorth@...
May 3, 2001 11:31 am
... As you may have gathered from my recent posts, I'm rereading my copy of Bruce's Design For Fast Sailing. One interesting sentence grabbed my attention in...
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fgh@...
May 3, 2001 12:18 pm
... have no idea ... the only ... long. Not ... that will ... chine in the ... and ... much ... I'd have a ... the hull ... What kind of trapece will you...
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fgh@...
May 3, 2001 12:24 pm
Hi all, Is not the proa shown in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proa_file/files/AtlanticProa/AtlanticPro a2JPEG actually a tacking outrigger. For what I see she...