Hi all, Can someone who is sailing a traditional proa give us info on speeds and windward courses (shunting angles?) of boats with non western rigs (crab...
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John Dalziel
johndl@...
Jun 1, 2000 2:20 pm
Hi Dave, I can't help a whole lot here as my proa had dual boards when I was using the crab-claw. I could point up higher than 45 true without difficulty,...
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S Fishwick
fishwick@...
Jun 1, 2000 5:30 pm
With apologies to anyone who is offended by the cross-posting, but I would remind them they have a delete key Please see the message below. If there is...
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S Fishwick
fishwick@...
Jun 4, 2000 1:25 pm
Thank you one and all for your responses. As you will see from the below, the search is ended with a successful result. Thank you again Cheers Simon (and it's...
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Dave Culp
dave@...
Jun 6, 2000 7:29 pm
OK, it's a provocative title, I'll admit. Also, I'll say straight out that I'm an admirer of Ted Warren's work, and consider him a friend (this *is* a public...
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azskybum@...
Jun 6, 2000 7:51 pm
I have discovered a source of carbon fiber cloth that actually is less expensive than fiberglass cloth. Check out www.carboncomposites.org/index the "super...
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John Pertalion
pertalion@...
Jun 6, 2000 8:48 pm
Greetings Listers, This scenario is quite interesting to me. I've looked at Ted's Tiny Dancer and boggled at the cost. Something faster, cheaper and possibly...
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Dave Culp
dave@...
Jun 6, 2000 11:59 pm
... Well, Killer's no car-topper, unless you're into hoisting 220 lb, 30' hulls atop your car! ... A single stick would certainly be more powerful, in and of...
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K_S_ONeill@...
Jun 7, 2000 6:11 am
Hi I'm a recovering Hobie sailor, and am thinking of building a quick and easy proa to replace the now-for-sale H16. The H16 traits I'd like to avoid are: ...
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John Dalziel
johndl@...
Jun 7, 2000 5:40 pm
... Hi Kevin, welcome to the group! I think your dimensions look good, and 21' length will be a lot better than the same carrying capacity on a shorter length....
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Michael Schacht
michael@...
Jun 9, 2000 1:21 am
Welcome to the group, Kevin. Your description of what you want is starting to sound familiar. Many people seem to be seeking that beach cat ride, but in a...
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K_S_ONeill@...
Jun 10, 2000 12:28 am
... starting ... ride, but ... have come ... Thanks, and I will. I think the single outrigger, esp in shunting configuration, is a great sounding idea for a...
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Michael Schacht
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Jun 10, 2000 2:53 am
K_S_ONeill@... ... Your right, cat beams are overkill and needlessly heavy. As more people build these, we will get an idea of the scantlings required,...
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Robert August
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Jun 10, 2000 4:24 am
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Gary Dierking
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Jun 10, 2000 5:10 am
... If you have a short foredeck at each end it will stiffen the hull more than enough. This also allows for watertight compartments at each end with the...
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John Dalziel
johndl@...
Jun 10, 2000 2:14 pm
... You're right, there are several ways to do the steering sweep, and for everyone who doesn't have a copy of "East..." there is a photo on the web showing...
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John Dalziel
johndl@...
Jun 10, 2000 2:19 pm
Here is a list of some on-line canoe images from NOAA's McVey collection. They are from various, mostly Caroline, islands; seeing these and others in the...
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Gary Dierking
garyd@...
Jun 10, 2000 7:49 pm
... Hey, I thought Florida was supposed to look just like these photos. Note the differences in the Ponape canoes; they are generally only used in the rivers...
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K_S_ONeill@...
Jun 11, 2000 10:53 pm
Hi Here's a link I haven't seen in anyone's list; found it looking for something else entirely. Interesting, and he seems to have the 'use what's at hand'...
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John Dalziel
johndl@...
Jun 12, 2000 1:34 am
Tim is one amazing, intelligent dude. Since those photos have been taken he has modified the Hobenstein quite a bit, and has even tried sailing it with a kite....
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Michael Schacht
michael@...
Jun 12, 2000 4:25 pm
This showed up in my inbox today. If anyone needs "Canoes of Oceania", this might be a good way to get a copy. Please respond directly to ...
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dunlopp@...
Jun 13, 2000 6:56 am
A followup to the recent posting about the "Project Cheers" book: Vincent Besin has recently launched a (French-language) site about the boat itself. ...
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peterfynn@...
Jun 13, 2000 10:10 pm
As Othmar was the only one to give any feedback on the location of the lateral CG of a proa, am I to take it that this is a dead issue, or am I missing...
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Edgar Christopher
etmcedg1@...
Jun 14, 2000 11:46 am
... I haven't been following this thread. What did you what to do with the information? I think the issue is that most multihull enthusiasts are content [for...
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Edgar Christopher
etmcedg1@...
Jun 14, 2000 12:10 pm
... oops I meant initial metacentric height, [getting wires crossed with a debate in the university computer room] Chris...
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John Dalziel
johndl@...
Jun 14, 2000 11:34 pm
To: proa_file@egroups.com From: peterfynn@... ... I don't think you are missing anything obvious, it is just that things can get...
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Dave Culp
dave@...
Jun 15, 2000 4:09 am
... And how will you be calculating your metacentric height, without first finding your center of gravity? Dave...
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Edgar Christopher
etmcedg1@...
Jun 15, 2000 12:17 pm
... That was the point I was making. If you just calculate initial statical stability from the product of the weight of hull or ama, and beam you don't need to...
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K_S_ONeill@...
Jun 16, 2000 4:39 am
Howdy Building update: Ama done (woo hoo!). It's 12' x 12" on deck, v hull, 1/4" ply. I calculate something like 130 lbs to sink it. It's raining. Very sad....
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John Dalziel
johndl@...
Jun 17, 2000 1:43 pm
... No, I haven't, but I think it would depend on the setup of the boards; if you did them with rope or Herreshoff or Dutch pivots, and the board rode on a...
